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4641  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with the people who don't like Bitcoin? on: April 21, 2017, 10:56:28 PM
Just respect their own opinion. But rubbed to them they are missing for not going in btc. Tell them to look at the current market price of bitcoin and how they should have been having a great deal of money or assets if they like accepting it.

That is what I'm trying to do, that is how the way they think of it, though before accepting it, it is better to reach out or tell him what can bitcoin can do, you can have debates or questions to answer because I think he is just misunderstanding some points, you can explain them what can bitcoin do, and what it can't do. It is a great investment which many people love, you can use it freely without thinking about the government, unless you're using or buying some illegal things.
4642  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price is recovering! on: April 21, 2017, 10:16:40 PM
Right, now bitcoin has been started to recover its price, and soon bitcoin give us good news. Because i want to see bitcoin above $1300, may be in the end of April, we will see bitcoin come at $1300. But i keep in mind, may be bitcoin give us uncertainly surprise about its price. I mean may be it is possible that we see within month bitcoin suddenly going to done.     
Agreed, the value of bitcoin now is actually really calming for the bitcoin enthusiast including me. I really do believe that it will increase before month of June this 2017.


Well you can say that you are satisfied.the way bitcoin's price is high. Beause of the cpunfries that accept bitcoin, irstprice are increasing with the increase of users. It may have a dump but it just pumps every time. I think it will be having a price of $1400 but it will not exceed to that, it may stay at $1300 or $1200 but it will not dump that much, it will just go back and forth.
4643  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin digital gold or digital cash? on: April 21, 2017, 09:49:57 PM
Bitcoin is a digital platinum, not a gold or silver. It's not a digital cash since you cannot cash your bitcoin out.

There are only two options and you will only pick either digital gold or digital cash and digital playinum is not one of them. About cashing out, yes,bitcoin can't be cash out literally, but it can be comverted to fiat so the user can still use it. But it says digital, cashing out a digital currency is absurd. That is why they are converting it. For me it is a digital gold because, mostly they use it as an asset, most of the users save bitckin and use it when the price is good.
4644  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is not supported in some countries? on: April 21, 2017, 09:22:24 PM
The main reason is that the big banks of those countries can't control it, so they buy government support against it.

We can't just think like that everytime, many banks and governemts accepted bitcoin even with the fact that they can't control the digital currency. And why will they buy the governemnt, if you think of it, it is the opposite. We can't think negatively of the people sitting there, if they don't accept bitcoin, someone will ask the and they will just answer the question based on their action.
4645  Other / Meta / Re: Timeout connection on: April 21, 2017, 08:39:43 PM
Works fine for Indonesia, although it's a little bit slow. Better than no connection at all, though. If problem occurs again, I'll inform you via edit.
Not at all, some ISP on indonesia still can't access bitcointalk.org like ISP from PT. Telkom included Tekomsel. currently now i login using vpn from singapore

Uhh... But I use telkom's service too. I accessed this forum finely. Go try to turn off the vpn, maybe you can't access it via indihome few mins ago before theymos apply the newest solution

I have the opposite. I can't access the site but when I used the vpn it worked fine, I thought the server is down but I think now someone attacked. It's ok now even without VPN, by the way I'm from the Philippines.
4646  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: April 21, 2017, 01:39:47 AM
Nice, all bitcoin users were wait to happened it. Because most of the users were work to earn bitcoin in a simple way little by little.

We are near on it and if you are aware with the crypto news right now. There are countries that are now on it's way for the acceptance of bitcoin. It's really going to be a real crypto currency that is going to be treated as a international currency and because bitcoin is freedom, many are going to agree with this call.

There are still a few country that accept bitcoin as a currency, most of them still treat bitcoin as an asset and used in trading to earn profit. Japan will be an eye opener to the other country to use bitcoin when they see how efficient and useful it be to the country's residents. It is a good currency that can be use with the freedom of the people because it can be use almost at all things.
4647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin money? on: April 20, 2017, 09:50:00 PM
What else that money bitcoin is,it is money,whan you buy sell trade than it is money.Even gold is money whan you have gold you have money

Because it is a digital currency, and a popular one, not just because you buy sell and trade them you can consider it as a money. Do you know that Rice are used to buy sell and trade? So you cannconsider them as a money? Money is fiat, it is a physical type of the currency that ae use. They are the papers and coins that use to pay for our items.Bitcin do not have a physical coin, it is digital, and money are centralized, which is the opposite of bitcoin being decentralized.
4648  Economy / Economics / Re: One Reason not to be "All Inn" on any Single Investment for Long on: April 20, 2017, 02:24:03 PM
Investment is risky what more having a single investment and funding all your money it may broke your life if something bad happens in your investment.

That is why you must not invest your money all in, and you are getting worried if something will happen to your investment? invesment will not ensure you profit, you are putting your money on risk, it will not always result a good one. And if you invest all of your money, it will be really making your life worst, you will be ending up a man without money at hand. How will you able to survive a week without money in your hands, you will be borrowing a lot when that happens.
4649  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Great way to make Bitcoin! on: April 20, 2017, 08:47:07 AM
Making bitcoin when you started was so hard. Like me I'am newbie, but I was not stop until I was earn bitcoins. For me joining to signature campaign is one of the great way to earn bitcoin.
Well there are some users here also a newbie but they earn more compared to other old members here maybe they are not active here and focus only in trading or some online jobs to earn bitcoins
Yes, that is true some newbie here are full time earners in some outside job in this forum like trading many newbie here are going to trade altcoin and get some huge earning and some are going in Forex which is you can multiply your earning in just a day many newbie here are big earners so keep it up!

Because the these newbies that earn more than the old members here are businessmen and traders. Mostly, they spend their time not in the forum, but in their job. They are just checking here for more information about bitcoin that may help them with their trading activities or business or sites. They are not earning their money here or in any signature campaign, but some of them are owners of the sites that the signature campaigns introduce.
4650  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is not supported in some countries? on: April 20, 2017, 08:04:02 AM
I think as long as you have internet connection you can use bitcoin anywhere. You know the government will never legalize bitcoin but that does not mean btcoin is not support in all countries
yes you are right that bitcoin is an online currency and it depend on internet, those countries where there is internet connection so that countries are able to use bitcoin and where there is no internet access so they could not join bitcoin forum and simply could not use bitcoin .

Yes, if you have internet, you can access your bitcoin wallet. Every country can access the internet and I don't think that there are places in the world without internet, unless there are no people living there. There are just some countries that censor some sites or track some people whenever they surf the internet. I don't know why, but I think I will be really bored if I will live in that kind of place.
4651  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price is recovering! on: April 20, 2017, 06:15:01 AM
I am glad if there is any news about this bitcoin sooner or later the bitcoin price will soon rise high.
The price is already high but if there is a good news it will pump again. Actually I'm waiting also for some bad news because I  want
to buy more bitcoin when the weak hands will dump.

There are a lot of people who wished to make the price dump, just the othwr day, while the price is dumping a little they are waiting to drop more, though it didn't and they are really pissed that didn't buy that time, look at the price now, it is closing to $1300 again. I don't know the next dump, but if it did dump, you better buy some while you can.
4652  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: April 20, 2017, 05:38:18 AM
I found that still be possible to get rich with bitcoin, but for such thing you need to risk into some business model, being exchange or casino, since others projects might allow you some extra income, but not enought to let you rich.

There is a big possibility to become rich using bitcoin, you just need to hardworking, patient and smart. Hardworking because there isna lot of ways to earn money on the internet, and there are also a lot of ways to lose it. We are just stuck on the lose side because we are not making good decisions. Patient because not all the time you will be earning money, you need to be patient and wait ir the right time. And be smart because skills and hardwork is not enough, you also need to be smart, think ahead and be ready for what might happen, who knows, your story may turn out to be rug to riches right?
4653  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How do you feel about the death penalty? on: April 20, 2017, 01:55:22 AM
That is ex post facto law right? poor guys they will be the last ones experiencing the death penalty. But I think it is justice when they've done or commit serious cases like rape or murder. If the government gives a punishment that is not that fair for what they have done, it is not good, many people will be making a dissaproval.
4654  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how strong is bitcoin really? on: April 20, 2017, 01:08:39 AM
We know that bitcoin is strong and all the wallets have milletry grade security but one of my stupid friend today said that maybe someone can hack it with just a calculater because with math and correct formulas we can even predict gambling bets if that is possible then maybe there is any chance of this
As long as you keep your private key very safe and don't show it to anyone but yourself, then bitcoin is pretty much unhackable. If you go around showing your private key, you are probably gonna get hacked.

If the owner of a wallet show off his or her private keys, that is not hacked nor stolen, more likely it is given. You show your privatebkey, there are no other reason why you will be losing you bitcoins stored on the wallet. Maybe you can showw off your bitcoin wallet address, but when it comes to your private keys, that is a different story.
4655  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SAUDI Bitcoin Trading on LocalBitcoins TO THE MOON on: April 20, 2017, 12:24:17 AM
Most of the middle east countries are rich due to oil production and if people from there adopt bitcoin, it will surely help bitcoin gain more popularity and price hike too.

I know right? theybare the most popular oil producer in the world making them very rich. If the middle east accept bitcoin in their trade with the other countries, I think bitcoin will be more popular making it a good virtual currency to trade with other countries.
4656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: April 19, 2017, 11:53:16 PM
I really don't see how having experience in games like roulette may help you winning. Games like roulette are unpredictable and the outcome is based on a private server seed.
Maybe if you have experience you may already know this and you know the risks of betting.
to me i think there are some formats of gambling where we need our experience and skill. although we are depending on  our luck for gambling, but still in some games iike sports betting, horse racing and motor racing we can use our skill and previous experience, while in some other gambling games we are totally depending on our luck and there is no need for any experience and skill.
It is a classic reasons lol , but honestly i don't think experience really necessary.
Just look at those newbie / a new comer to gamble , they spin and won it , they roll and won it, they pick an event and won it.
So what should you call it is because experience? Pure luck? Of course gambling always to take a risk and rely only on luck.

Well that is why there are gamblers especially newbies and new comers that has beginner's luck. So we can say it is also their luck. And you can't just say that experience is not really necessary. Most of the experienced gamblers don't lose that much, they may win big, but mostly not that much. They are the type of gamblers that don't really think that they can have profit from gambling, they gamble knowing that they may lose or may win.
4657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: April 19, 2017, 11:06:00 PM
I see a lot of gamblers that are making their career seriously. If you are familiar to those people that are staying everyday with casino's and makes their life easier there and in the end they are losing and makes their life miserable. But still there are people , very few people that making this way to their riches. And we are being inspired by them thinks that we'll be the same like them and that is wrong.

You can be the same as them if you actually know how to win. There are some people that actually have some luck and atleast know how to win in poker games. It is not literally all luck involved , it atleast need some experience to differ wether someone is actually bluffing or some other sort of stuff

People who get lucky in gambling and end up winning a lot of money are rare and not common. They should not set an example of how gamblers should be because that would make other people addicted to gambling just out of jealousy. That in other words is what the casino owners want as well. Because that means more income for the house and the owners and affiliates.
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That is right, I think these is the reason why more gamblers are being addicted to gambling. They are setting these winners to be a model to many gamblers, and most gamblers are always greedy and jealous and with these models, they are making these gamblers more addicted to gambling telling themselves that they can win and do the same as these people.
4658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: April 19, 2017, 10:18:00 PM
I would suggest sports betting. As its more safe and roughly you can make a guess if you understand the game. You can win big amount in sports betting easily no need skill no need strategy.
although more safe than other games but to win big amount from sport betting needed huge amount capital also and i think is not so simple just like that and usually people do sport betting because mostly they are soccer fans or other sports fans and really understand about the teams or the players so you would not get profit if only just guessing the results of the particular sport matches

It is really the safest gamble I know, you can analyze and make a good decision based on their recent games, stats and his/her plays. Yes, mostly, gamblers are just die hard fans of a their country's or place' team. Knowing these, mostly they just bet on their team so they still not ensure a good profit. Though with the analysis of the player, sometimes it didn't work or win because as the gamble word implies, it also relies on your luck.
4659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I have found a long term and strong dice strategy. on: April 19, 2017, 09:40:04 PM
This is interesting method i hope that you can explain it more.. because i tried many martingale methods and different settings are end up all to lose..
And hope in your method can be stay long and gain a profit not staying for long term in dice game but never making any profit..
It will just the same as you are lose fast in martingale..
How hard you make strategies without luck you cannot win. Even with martingale you might avoid or reduce the risk of losing but it to is not a confirmed solution to overcome the loss and win. Same is with the strategy that's been developed by the Op. Gambling is simply a fun which profit if lucky else empties our wallets.

I even still think there is no strategy that can make you win at the dice game. I still think that victory in the dice game is 100% luck. Nice if someone has a strategy to win the dice game and a strategy that works, but I believe that the strategy works only occasionally and will not work on everyone. But luck always work to everyone.

In other words, there are no shortcut for being a rich man. If gambling strategies are effective and will really make someone rich, I think you will not be sharing these techniques to other because you can just do it on your own and become rich Especially these dice game where it all relies on your luck. There are instances that gamblers are being luck and gambling strategies worked for them, then they will be sharing that strategies to others where they will try it, but will not be as lucky as the other one.
4660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How bring referrals ? on: April 19, 2017, 09:17:45 PM
Can someone advise me best ways for attracting referrals ? (for dice site)

Many gamblers like to play dice games so it is easy to attract them though using your referral will be the problem, maybe you can make some words so they can use your referral. You can post them in a social media, maybe Facebook or twitter, make post that will pique their interest so they will be clicking that link. But please.make sure that the people that you invited like the dice site otherwise they will be dissapointed.
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