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4661  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Investing In Crypto Genuine Better Than Trading Forex on: August 07, 2020, 04:05:23 AM
Losing once doesn't make crypto better than forex. Both have their pros and cons tbh, and it's just a matter of preference and what you're really skilled at. If you were going to make trading as a passive way for earning income, then yea I suppose crypto is a lot better right now since you can profit quite a bit when hodling. Forex on the other hand is a bit more different since changes are more likely to happen when companies are doing something, and they can't really do anything right now with how the world is.

Imo, risks are always 50/50. There's no way for you to actually increase one from the other, even if you do countless research and the like. Especially in crypto, investing in legit projects is a 50/50 chance, and majority of the projects actually fall into the part where they are actually scams.
4662  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Google Advertises Uniswap Phishing Scams on: August 07, 2020, 01:59:01 AM
I was like WHAT? Then I saw it was google and meh, It's google man. I wouldn't even doubt it if they started advertising hacking sites all over the place. They don't really look at those that ask for advertisements intensively enough to detect every single scam site but they do have an algorithm for at least detecting the more obvious ones. This is why mostly you should never trust extensions and the likes in Google, and if you were to open up a site from an ad, better look it up and then open it from there.

Just report it and get over it. Luckily, google at least accepts reports for whatever scam sites we say, though I don't really know how much of an research they do with reports before actually banning the sites from being advertised. They should probably add some sort of scam list that they could place somewhere in their search engine webpage. Or make it an ad.
4663  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Average Congressman has nearly 60 years. Can those grandpas regulate bitcoin? on: August 07, 2020, 01:35:39 AM
I actually don't mind them being old, being young, or being a grandpa,grandma teen or whatever. As long as they can view Bitcoin from an objective point of view as well as judging them WHEN they actually know stuff about it is more than enough. Well, being old at times can be synonymous to forgetting about trying out new things as well as being open minded about them, but if ALL old people were as such, I'd give up. But not really though, some of the older gens even know the advantage of Bitcoin, so why can't those in the congress do as such? Look at our own forum members, As far as I know, there are a few people out there that are ages >50.
Bitcoin is already big enough and conquered it space.  And bitcoin is not in war with regulators (at least not yet), but imo regulation will have to adapt to bitcoin, and not the opposite.
I doubt they could go against it even. Sure, for a short bit maybe they'd be able to, but the people aren't ignorant, and one way or another, someone in the congress would fight for Bitcoins adaptation. Well, if there's none, then I guess it's time for a change?
4664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Regulations in online Gambling sites on: August 07, 2020, 01:07:25 AM
They should really put out said regulations even without the problem of quarantine. Well, at least, they should ask for proofs ( those that already have KYC anyway) like something of a monthly salary, monthly expenses OR just introduce a formula where they have to put out salaries and expenses, let the machine calculate, and let the user themselves follow whether such cap should be accepted or not, or casinos themselves could introduce caps using that.

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The report suggests the implementation of controls for online (remote) gambling. According to the paper, limits on both stake and speed of play need to be introduced. Online slots should have limits of £1 and £5 per bet. On the other hand, according to the report, non-slot content should receive limits on game design. This is because if non-slot content receives bet limits, it may become: “commercially non-viable.“

True, if they limited something like poker with 1 or 5 per bet?Huh The hell would that make the game be. They could potentially lower the limit of raises and the like, to an acceptable range anyway. Or once the pot reaches a certain amount, game automatically picks up pace to get the river without asking players for more berts.

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But 100£ cap is too low.
Well, it is supposed to limit them from spending too much. Using something like what I said, calculating salaries and expenses makes calculating a bit too different since some have almost no income, while some has a bit of income and the like, so I guess they just met at the middle and made a compromise.
4665  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Stock/Forex Trader and Cryptocurrency Trader on: August 06, 2020, 05:13:45 AM
Imo, the biggest difference between stocks trading and crypto trading is the lack of factors that could help you predict market movement. In Crypto(Bitcoin), most of what we actually base on are actually "baseless" since the core which is Bitcoin is actually not controlled by anyone. This makes it's growth uncontrollable to an extent. Stocks on the other hand, can be quite constant and mose price changes that happen are actually seen not in the short term but in the long term. Especially when a company announces certain stuff, you can guarantee that it's stock would increase by some amount. It's like in stocks, you have some sort of backing that you can fall upon when trading and predicting but in Crypto, you still have the same backing, but it's like closer to water or something transparent that changes quickly. These are based on what I know though, so maybe false on a few areas.
4666  Economy / Economics / Re: What should you learn so you never get affected by a economic crises ? on: August 06, 2020, 04:34:28 AM
AIs are basically just machines that can calculate stuff that would take too long for humans to do. Most of them are basically just super-machines, and the ideas that AIs make are just basically off of humans. It's like the limits of an AI is nonexistent onto humans, and the limit of humans is nonexistent onto AIs. A collaborative effort between the two ( I say collab but I doubt humans would let AIs become an independent entity) is the way for continuous development, and humans learning how to take advantage of what AIs can do is a step forward.

Communists tried that it failed ...

In the end govs either will have to put high taxes on companies that use AI / robotos ... or they will have to prepare for civil wars ...

It's a dangerous road that we are on now ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cwi0pkhoSE

We should be starting to create/develop EMP bombs ,rockets etc , computer viruses ,worms etc anything that can kill robots and AI

War is coming ... man vs machine
I'm pretty sure you're overreacting right now. Heck, development of AIs haven't even been proved to be useful for constant usage as well, they've only been proven that they can learn, but to what extent? Also man vs machine? If it does come true, let's be real here, that would take more than a few decades. Even centuries. An AI learning of literally everything and is big enough to learn that much would take a lot of time to make, and I doubt anyone would even allow such a thing to be made.
4667  Economy / Economics / Re: Since jobs are unlikely to return, Do u think there will be a 3rd $1200 stimulus on: August 06, 2020, 01:55:23 AM
Nope. If they were just to print out money after money, they'd only be making their doom fall faster, and I'm pretty sure even the government realizes that. I don't know about other countries, but Jobs are slowly coming back, though not the best order of things in our country though since we had to undergo another quarantine. If they were able to successfully take advantage of the quarantine period, they'd be able to open up or loosen up quite a bit imo after all.

Another stimulus could be helpful, but that's the limit probably. Heck, they're probably pushing past the limit with the next follow up if ever. Besides, a few companies are able to work around the difficulties by working online, though the workload is drastically reduced imo, especially for a select few that even with working online, it just isn't enough.
4668  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto being way better when it comes to tracking - what we always said on: August 06, 2020, 01:19:01 AM
Time and again there has been a feud between Bitcoins supporter and the Government . Government always said how cryptocurrencies are not a good option since they can be used for illegal purposes and therefore should be banned .
They're basically making excuses so that their illegal action themselves are unable to be noticed/tracked. It's actually a lot easier for them to be tracked when there's an officially recognized address for each government organization's wallet after all. Also, the twitter hack was quickly tracked because of the carelessness of the hackers themselves. They didn't send them all to mixers, cashed out a few which lead to them being tracked, as well as a few of their fellow hackers just plain up confessed everything when they were caught. Add that to their young age, it was quite natural that their inexperience led them to being caught.

This is basically how past people were fearful of fire because it hurts them, when in reality if people actually bothered to learn about it, it'd be a pretty useful tool for our everyday lives.
4669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Netherlands pilot scheme to allow women to play in senior men's team on: August 06, 2020, 12:41:51 AM
WHOOOO WOMEN!!... Is what I would like to say but let's be real here mates. I ain't hating women or anything, they can play the game itself and I have no problem with that. Yes, most of us can acknowledge that there could be good female players out there, but teams would opt to choose the BEST and realistically speaking, male players are the ones that bring up the best in said games. Besides, if there were women that could be better than most pro players, it'd number around a few tens or so tbh, and they wouldn't even be on the same team possibly. Just the build of men is enough of an advantage when choosing players between men and women. And let's be real here, skill could probably take you a long way in high school tournaments even with a female build, but official matches where everyone has both skills and build?
4670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it worth paying to advertise your ref link? on: August 06, 2020, 12:14:51 AM
Well, you weren't able to withdraw it anyway, and seeing as it's just sitting there, spending it for your ref link seems like the best way, plus, it's going to return the same amount in the long term if possible anyway. Although tbh in my case, even if ref links were advertised I would still choose to actually visit the site myself via links I found and not the ref link way, just making sure that it's safe and I'm not risking my machine from getting infected by weird-ass viruses. Especially since I learned back then how even google just accepted money and didn't really study the ads that they are showing, thereby sometimes showing ads for scam companies and the like.
4671  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on new ATH on: August 05, 2020, 12:08:50 PM
$50k? Or something close to that. I'd like to think I'm already dreaming big but a lot of people out there actually hope for Bitcoin to go up to $100k or more. Don't blame them though, Bitcoin has surpassed most people's expectations whenever it comes to its ATH after a significant time of it's halving. Though countries are still experiencing a lot of problems with their financial situations and as such, I think people are looking for something to hopefully evade the repercussions of the situation, aka escaping into Bitcoin so they can save their money.

Add that to how Bitcoin is showing positive growth right now, at a constant steady rate, you can expect that at the minimum, it'd reach its last ATH by next year. The question is to how much would it actually go up from there, and well, it depends on how people react to it and whether the price would actually be a result of steady movement or another bubble.
4672  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Good idea for a new trader to get into derivative trading? on: August 05, 2020, 05:56:21 AM
It's a "new" trader so no, not really. Though that's just in case of people having fear of losing money, in which case for me, I fear that said trader would lose all his money for just "trying it out" but really, if someone had the financial capability to support himself outside of trading while trying out different things at the expense of believing that they're going to lose everything they've traded for that "try" then I'm all for it. hodl brings profit in the long run yes, and we can see a lot of positivity with regards to hodling BTC, but it isn't really 100% guarantee, plus it takes a long time. If someone had the capabilities like what I said earlier, they could try it basically, even with just a few dollars start-up and slowly increase while learning the know-hows, they should be able to earn profits after a few months.
4673  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help recognize fraud on: August 05, 2020, 05:19:47 AM
I don't have IRS problems. Each zelle transaction looks like a real people, americans send me their own money.
He showed me like receipt when man wrote that he works with him and confirms his 3000$ transaction + ID photo.
Also guy who proposeme that work said that I will ger 10% for oppotunity of using my zelle, because it more comfortable way to transfer money. And he can't trade himself because Coinbase or Coinmama there are financial limits.
Receipts can be faked, reasons can be faked, and yea, what DdmrDdmr said, is the fact that you're acting as some sort of middleman enough for you to receive that 10%? Stop thinking like it's worth it cause of the profit cause that's the wrong way to take things like this. Even with voice messages, even if you've seen fraud like behavior before, that doesn't make every other fraudster the same. Also, I think the IRS problem was not for right now but rather when you start cooperating with whoever you're going to. I'd honestly not want to join in since if legal authorities came by, you'd solely be the one at the forefront, basically acting as something similar to a scapegoat for them. Up to you though, just ask yourself if the risks possibly involved is worth that 10%
4674  Economy / Economics / Re: there is one thing onely that can save the usa dollar on: August 05, 2020, 04:39:37 AM
Yes, wars are relatively events that give out resources to the winning party, and we all know how US can pretty much dominate any small to middle countries with relative ease, and as for countries on its level, it'd probably only take time, but let's be real here, the only thing they would be doing is losing more resources as it is already. Last hope? Probably, if they want to ruin their country entirely. I actually don't think that even with wars could US save their dollar. Even if they were pushed to again sell their bonds to foreign investors though, a war would probably not happen. They've already experienced such events in the past with the 2007, so I doubt they wouldn't know what to do to prevent that plus, even if they were willing to sell, only a select few could buy them due to each country having its own problems with regards to the economy.
4675  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbies beware of influencers -they might not know it all/it's can go wrong- on: August 05, 2020, 01:59:50 AM
In fact, they shouldn't even trust anyone. Any information they obtained should be looked up, referenced from other sources, and asked around from other forums multiple times imo. Research is basically the key to making sure everything goes right, or at least, having enough influence to what might happen when you set whatever plan you have in motion. In fact, even those famous people known to be correct most of the time could also make mistakes, hence the term "most". Especially for billionaires and the like, heck, I trust more people in the forum than those billionaires in certain aspects after all, not that I don't trust them at some times.
Those influencers are making money from fame not by investing on the project they are predicting sometimes the project itself pay to the influences and ask to shill for them on social media.Its like how celebs advertising cosmetic products and the promise that you can be fairer if you use this for 30 days but after years of using you will be still the same. Cheesy

No one can predict, so just trust your predictions. Wink
They're also just making money by trying to get on the famous stuff, riding on the bandwagon train right there. Especially on centralized currencies, the highest bidder wins the influencers' advertisement and this happens in most cases in various industries, not just crypto after all.
4676  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why there are too many topics related to Crypto Scams here? on: August 05, 2020, 01:30:24 AM
Well, I suppose it's because threads about scams (how to avoid them and the like) are easy ways to be acknowledged for one's post to become creative/useful. Plus, I think they think of it as a guaranteed way to earn merit (Just saying it's a way, not that all newbies are posting for merit). My opinion of it would be just to avoid it if you think it's irritating or something, let them post what they want since it's basically still useful oneway or another. And each post about how to avoid crypto scams could provide new information, after all, so they're basically free to do as such. And it's not like they just copy and pasted it from someone, but I do agree about what @mk4 said, a pinned thread that could get regularly updated about scams.

4677  Economy / Economics / Re: Second Stimulus check - What are you going to do with it? on: August 05, 2020, 12:56:24 AM
I doubt most of those that can get stimulus checks are those that are able to invest tbh. Personal supplies and the like are much better alternatives right now. Yes, pretty much investing in stocks, upgrading your personal equipment, etc., are good ideas for the long term. Sadly, most are already having a hard time for the present, so I doubt they'd actually have the leisure to even think about what their expenses could do for their long term whether it be for personal enjoyment or for just the reason of wanting to live.

list are mostly gadgets and personal gratification . you forgot to add gambling  . gambling is mostly people will spend thier stimulus  . i dont have mine and i dont know how to avail of those  . maybe because im just new here on the place where i currently reside but i saw my neighbors got rice and some groceries instead of cash.  thats way more better if i were to ask because we saw above on where would people spend their stimulus, they only spend it on useless things
Giving out money and giving out supplies, which seems better when looking from the sides? I for sure think giving out money is better, in terms of you being given the attention that is. They're mostly doing it so that they can show the world they are doing something, even though it isn't the best choice, it is a choice that can appeal better though.
4678  Other / Archival / Re: . on: August 05, 2020, 12:15:21 AM
It'd probably still be the same. I doubt they'd let go of it, and they'd probably issue a few necessary rules so that the idea of what the money is for is plain to see, with proof as well. They have all the reason to ask for information regarding transactions, after all, Just hope this actually makes stuff easier instead of much more complicated.
If everyone or most people stop paying taxes, the robots would do what needs to be done through hard work & people would begin to have less right than the robots in an evil society. Imagine what that means.
Well robots do not pay tax and as such the government would still be at a loss.
But on a more serious note, tax payment is not preventing the introduction of technology into different sectors, that's bound to happen sometime in the future to some extent. The quoted discussion was about tax refunds, which basically means you were overcharged previously and not about tax defaults.
Nah, even with robots I'd doubt taxes would disappear. Robots in itself need money to be continuously operated and maintained, as well as possible improvements in the future after all. Plus, I'm sure the government would one way or another find excuses for taxes to still become relevant after robots are implemented, they like free money after all.
4679  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Scam victims on: August 04, 2020, 02:29:22 AM
Give it up? If it were a more known one then you might have a chance to actually apply for legal charges, but the site seems to be relatively unknown. Even review sites had no records to base upon and most reviews that I found were actually just spam. If you still want to try to, look for a legal team in the UK so that it's easier to visit the scammers location, dunno if it's legit though since it states that their office is located there. I'm not being rude or anythiing, but when you paid for more than $50k to return what you invested should have been plenty enough of a signal to identify that what you're dealing with is a scammer. No legit trading platform out there would ask for money to send you your money back.
4680  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Pension Fund - Thoughts? on: August 02, 2020, 07:58:53 AM
I think it might just be easier to let those countries without access to a system to just introduce a system itself instead of scrapping those countries that already have set their own system to implement what you want. Also, it's quite inefficient imo? Yes, we removed the problem with different currencies having different inflations, but then again, Bitcoin has it's own problem of volatility, so I don't really see a need for one.

Additionally, this requires a third party that could potentially run away with your funds, especially with how Bitcoin could remain untraceable if someone knows what they are doing. Look for a different project instead, one that could potentially ignore the problem of Volatility, or at least minimizes the damages that it could make.
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