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4661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING SITE INVESTMENT on: July 27, 2020, 09:25:39 PM
Thank you for the update bruh, as I saw in your investment record it seems good. Because there still profit at the end.

I guess the reason of that little gained you had is because we are on a bullish trend in the bitcoin market. It sounds too tempting to join but unfortunately, I don't have much enough capital to invest.

Just want to clarify, are you a long time investor? Profit will not get just a month.

Try to read up on whats been written in OP and you will find out on the things that you've been asking.It doesnt really cost you an arm and leg to check things out before asking out questions which the details had already been shown in the first place.
@Yatsan, its okay and dont push out yourself on giving updates 2-4 a month would be sufficient as long it do shows the progress of your investments.Now that we are experiencing price increase rally then
it'll surely give out some impact when it comes to USD value.
4662  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Taxes on Bitcoins: Unreasonable or essential? on: July 27, 2020, 08:44:19 PM

I remember when you could invest in cryptocurrency and make money without worrying about giving part of your earnings to government.

I am not trying to say paying tax is bad, in fact i pay my tax regularly for close to a decade now, but when it comes to taxing Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency,

I am not fully in support, because Bitcoin is first a currency before it is an investment, how will it sound if you are taxing someone for spending dollars? That's exactly how it seems taxing Bitcoin.

 Just like you said, it is debatable, but if you put Bitcoin's primary objective of Bitcoin (which is to serve as alternative currency), then Bitcoin should not be taxed.

Its still not consider to be on legal aspect thats why government would really see it as a taxable thing specially to those who are involved in investments and also with trading.
They do know that people do generate thousands of dollars in profits thats why they are trying to apply things up when it comes to taxation matters.Even myself is a taxpayer and doesnt have any skips
on that one but same as yours when we do talk about Bitcoin taxation then its a different thing.Yes its debatable and if they would push it out then i doubt if they do able to imply it yet
it wont be easy as it sounds.
4663  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we going to see another PANIC on: July 27, 2020, 07:17:24 PM
The panic up to a certain point in history has hurt the market but over the years this crucial factor has shown that it can help in maintaining and developing the market. However, the figures can be reliable up to a point, but a political movement by a government can change the market value affecting all investors.

The question is: Should we worry or surf the wave?
And after just a week you have gotten your answer, bitcoin has finally began to move and today is moving as it has not moved in months, this could be the opportunity you have been waiting for to make money in the markets but before you do anything make sure that you have a well defined strategy and that whatever money you are thinking of investing in the market is money you can afford to lose otherwise you are going to go terrible problems if you happen to lose that money as it happen to so many traders.
Losing is inevitable and its part of this market on where investors would really definitely experience such stuff because we know that this field is only composed of sellers and buyers.
Be smart and be wise as much as possible if you do like to sustain.Its good to see that the market had start to move out after several months.As far as i remember where btc do able to hit
up 10400 and it is indeed been a while before we do able to almost reach up that high as of this day.Yeah it took long months and its always been like that.If you arent that patient
enough then you might able to sell off.
4664  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡ LOOT.BET — Made For Live Betting | Esports, Slots, Mini Games on: July 24, 2020, 08:04:06 PM
I am curious what the experiences are from people so far?
Havent seen some user feedbacks of this forum but there are several mentions that they've been playing on this site and also you can check out
feedbacks into these places.We dont know if these words are legit ones or not.
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/loot.bet
https://www.hltv.org/forums/threads/1552025/is-lootbet-legit
4665  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does using trading Bots is more profitable than conventional trading? on: July 24, 2020, 07:05:37 PM
Over the years I believe trading bots have been improved on and this days not only do they execute your trade command but they can also make trade for you based on the market condition. I haven't traded with cryptocurrency bot but in the forex Market, I have patronize bots that make decisions for me which was profitable although that doesn't mean, there wasn't some instances when they predicted wrongly.

Why I'm not fully in support of bots although they make your trading experience more easily, is because of the disadvantages associate with using them but just to answer your question, you're better off trading yourself then relying on but as they can't be more profitable then you trading yourself. Bots can't give you the experience real trading does.

There  are already pre-setup bots that can be used directly when you do trade and also i dont really believe such thing that they would do make adjustments basing up on market condition unless if you do set it up but in talks of adaptability? they dont have such feature  yet trader would really need to set it up according to his likes on how the bot should execute on instances that he faced of. Manual trading is always been the best
but using up bots for automation isnt something bad, the thing here is that you dont rely too much on it because it is really just for an automation and its better to trade on your own  so that you would able to
sharpen up your trading skills and gain more experience towards the market.
4666  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any other Pilnko casinos? on: July 24, 2020, 01:10:28 PM
And edited for you all based off of comments: https://4king.com/best-bitcoin-plinko-casino-games-of-2020/

Based on what you have on the article, the best plinko sites are: 1. Mintdice 2. Crypto.games 3. Luckfish.
I'm wondering what makes you consider to have that 3 sites as the best compared to other sites such as Luckybit (the first bitcoin plinko game if I recall it correctly?.
Here is my opinion of the best plinko games:
1. Luckybit
2. Stake
3. Bitvest
4. Fortunejack
5. Bit-exo

So surprised to see that these 5 sites are not on your list. Havent you tried them?

3 of them got listed and only Luckybit and Bit-exo isnt only included in the list.When it comes to list ranking then i do also have different preference in mind but overall i do like to  play in Luckybit when they did come back into this market after a long break or have development.

Stake isnt a bad option either.Its just depend because each one of them does have different design or ui when it comes to gameplay integration but all of them are reputable and known ones.
I havent tried to play in Bit-exo though. So far these are the only sites on which i do know that offers plinko game.
4667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: July 24, 2020, 12:23:45 PM

After the scrimmage, some players voiced out their observations about the new changes they will expect once the NBA officially resumed the season.

Here are some:

- NBA put several screens in the arena, making the arena dark around so players somehow don't feel empty.
- Players' bench area is three rows of socially distanced seats for players when they are not on the floor.
- The usual chant or music of the home-team will be heard on the game. Yes, even playing in the same arena, there are still home and away teams as usual.
- The banners or everything related to the home team will be placed on LED boards to turned the arena into their home court.
- About the number of audiences, on the recent Clippers vs Magic scrimmage match, there are around 200 spectators composed of staff, media, etc.

I think it will work fine. They don't have a choice anyway. As long as they are playing and the league continues without any cases inside the bubble. I believe those athletic players can still play just like before with this setup. They just need a few games to be familiar with it.

200 spectators are few compared to audiences they had before but I think its already a lot with the setup too. I even thought it will look like a practice game but with all the media, staff, and other things the NBA do to make it look like a real game, I believe it will be alright. Excited for it but I just hope everything will be alright. No cases inside the bubble and it will be a league history.

200 isnt really that big of a number considering that they arent the only ones (entire team) will be on the venue.Of course it would be composed all sorts of staffs needed so that the gameplay would really be in good set-up. When i do able to see the scrimmage set-up  then i dont see for it to be bad and i do love on how they do arrange it where it do somehow patch up on whats lacking and they do really mind off with players
environment or ambiance.It might not be similar on the normal scenario but at least they do try their best to path it up somehow.As you said where players wont really have any choice at all but to adapt on whats
the current placement or set-up.
4668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BetKing sponsors kenya football , is it a publicity stunt ? on: July 23, 2020, 10:53:10 PM
Reading above posts again, it seems that betking.com is a separate entity from betking.io. Their existence is longer than betking.io. I sent an email to betking.com to check about their connections. Let's see what will be their reply.

Good. We hope that betking.com can clarify if they are part of betking.io or not because, as we know that betking.io is made a problem for some members. I hope after you get a reply from them, you can also share here so we can know what their answer.

But if betking.com and betking.io have the same management, then they can scam so many people.
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I think you should not ask them if you want to get the right answer.. no scammers will admit publicly that they scam people.

Don't expect this answer, "Hey that's us, we scammed people back then, CHEERS!"

The consensus of the people here is this site is the same with betking.io.

No dumb will really admit out into their mistakes or issues in the past thats why its not really that reliable in regards to their responses.We know on how shitty do become Betking is when we do talk into this forum.
They have unresolved accusations of scamming out users or investors and everytime betking do make up some headlines then i cant blame of on the negative impression around for such company.
They should really need to fix things up if they do like to withdstand into this industry but for me it is really hard to patch it up.
Ive been waiting for Jollygood's reaction again on this one.  Cheesy
4669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CRYPTO GIVEAWAYS REQUESTING YOU TO SEND FUNDS TO RECEIVE ARE SCAMS on: July 23, 2020, 10:17:04 PM
Few weeks ago, the crypto community received a major hit of scam perpetrated by evil people through the Hacking and hijacking access to major world notable individuals' tweeter accounts. These accounts were used to announce crypto giveaways requesting people to send a sum to receive multiple folds of whatever they send. It all ended up to be scams.

Currently, a similar post of ETH giveaway is going round on the Facebook page of crypto.com and it is obvious that it is another scam being perpetrated by the scammers.

I just want to implore guys to note that nobody who conduct a legit giveaway will first request you to send them fund first.

No one thing that should have in peoples mind from time to time that theres no someone would give out double your money instantly neither you are on traditional markets or even into this place.
Most of the time where people do lost up their common sense and do dive out without even having second thoughts that it might be a scam, they are just after on making quick bucks without any hard work.
In result? they do end up on getting scammed and cry in the end.

This isnt something new and these methods or schemes had already been known in the past but there are still people who do keep up feeding these scammers due to their dumbness and greediness.
4670  Economy / Gambling / Re: CRYPTOLOTTOSTORE.COM - Global lotto betting for cryptocurrency on: July 23, 2020, 09:07:57 PM
Is this site like an agent of those worldwide lotteries? What I mean by agent is that cryptolottostore acts like 3rd party who serve players who have no access to those worldwide lotteries by providing a way for players to buy lottery tickets easier? On the other words, prizes are not funded by cryptolottostore, but funded by the lottery providers. Am I right?
If it is true, so I wonder how cryptolottostore earn profit from the service, are they taking fee on winnings or maybe they get a commission from the lottery providers on every sold tickets?

We are not related to the lotteries, and we are not agents for them.  All the jackpots on the site are fully insured up to €50M, and when a player wins a jackpot we pay that player directly.

Just out of curiosity want to know by any chance did any-body till now won any of the Jackpot yet or if not, then what was the biggest winning amount by user whom you had transfer the amount to them and how quick that was? If you have any data available with you and want to share will be good for all to know some.


We are still pretty new, so we haven't had a jackpot winner yet.  Our largest win so far was just over 3BTC - which is still pretty good Smiley  Payment was made same day.
Thats already a good win and i would like to suggest something that anytime theres winner not only solely for jackpot winner where there some sort of pop out or any notification or alert something like that
on which it do shows that someone won in using up this platform.I believe that it will be a good add-on.
4671  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Finding Altcoins With Potential on: July 23, 2020, 08:29:45 PM
Usually they are at the place where you least expect. When you want to build a new project that will make a huge profit for the creator but also the investor, you work on it too much, you do not care about the marketing side of things because you know that your coin works the way you want it to work and you have a reason to create it and that is why you are doing it.

Coins that are created because creator wanted to make a coin and take all your money thinking like coin is a product will always fail, they are always horrible ones, but the coins created because creator wanted to have it themselves and use it for something will always go up. So, you will probably hear about them very little and when it is too late and the price goes up because it is used and bought and burned, you will get to hear about it everywhere.

It all matters with real world usability or utility on which these are the main criteria for projects that do able to pull out some support from the community or in short does really have the potential and possibly can able to make it through but finding out these projects wont really be easy as it sounds yet most of the time you will surely tumbled upon on projects that just simply or continuing to mimic out other projects even upto these days.When it comes on choosing alts then just like other investments this do really accompanied with big risk if we do consider on how many shitty alts in the market as of this moment then finding the best one
would really be hella of a challenge.
4672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Limited escrow service for building self discipline. on: July 23, 2020, 07:43:39 PM
I can stop playing gambling whenever I want because I know that in gambling, the emotion will take part, including greediness, because of winning the games. But maybe that can help other members who need help from the escrow agent or members who use too big money to gamble. Make sure you can select the recommended escrow agent to handle your money.

Not all people can control themselves just like we do. I can also limit myself from those overspending of money in gambling because I only see myself releasing my stress to it.

Escrow can really help a lot of gamblers who are struggling overcome their addiction.

I don't really believe in the idea of "you can stop gambling immediately" without even looking for another source of entertainment or someone/something that will hold your money. Obviously if you are a gambling addict you will not control yourself easily from spending another money. So I think, escrow will guide most of those gamblers to stop and prevent themselves from wasting huge amount of money.

No it work yet you know that you can alter out your decisions from time to time and since you do know that you do have still money left on your stash then you will probably using it up and claim it for you to use.
This is why its somewhat useless if you do  have this kind of arrangement on where you do look up for some escrow to hold up your funds.Just like what others mentioned that this kind of service is not needed.
You do have the full control and if not then you will surely learn up from your mistakes as simple as that.Also you would need to pay up for such service which do really sucks.
4673  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Finally some justice, scammer sent to jail at South Korea. on: July 22, 2020, 09:59:10 PM
A man was sentenced to 2.5 years for his involvement in a 249 million scam, it seems the two main culprits have escaped overseas, basically the scammers offered the victims a percentage of their mining profits if they invested with them only to be discovered later that no mining took place.

Do you think his punishment is fair? Those people scammed so many people out of their savings in something they knew was fully illegal and yet the sentence is incredibly light, how many people have seen their future crumble just before their eyes or even killed themselves over this.

While it is nice that at least a scammer has to face the justice system at the same time I am disappointed by this short sentence. What do you think of this?

https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-scammer-sentenced-by-south-korean-authorities

2.5 years in prison might be short and not really that much equal on the crime that they had committed but we cant do anything about it if the court do make out such decision.
How much more if this one is bailable? Since they do have money then they do have the power on freeing up themselves on such crime but if not then 2.5 wont really be that too long
but im wondering if there would be possible subject to change up on said duration?
4674  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Liqui is leaving the market on: July 22, 2020, 09:05:12 PM

I never heard of this exchange but this is a nice thing that they are informing their clients before closing the business. They could simply create a story (Popular: Hack) and walk away with the money of the customers.

Just did a quick search and can confirm the news. It's sad to see that businesses are shouting down just because there are not much liquidity.
Im aware of this exchange existence and the fact that they do even ran some signature campaign on this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574664.0
Ive seen that there are indeed users of this platform but didnt really last that much and im not surprised for new exchange that do pop out and later on eventually die.
Its good that they do give out announcements about closure and give out 30 days timeframe for its users to withdraw up funds but when i trying out to surf https://liqui.io/
its already down?  Huh
4675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Limited escrow service for building self discipline. on: July 22, 2020, 07:56:34 PM
Not really practical to apply, because we know how big the crypto gambling industry is and we have very few members who is trusted with such huge money so do you really think it is possible for them to handle all the traffic?

And why you can't do that by yourself.
You know you can do it yourself and pretty easily, I am someone who stakes my TRX and all my gambling is also done via TRX and later converted into bitcoins when I need them.

So basically I put my coins on staking and I cannot access them until a specified date which prevents me from gambling and also makes me some nice profit because if I was going to hand over my coins to someone just to control them, then I would always be worried if the person can be trusted or not and if even I can trust him then I am not getting any return on my money instead I might be paying some fees to the person holding it for me.


It would really be a stressful thing for your part that you do always mind of that you have funds on other people or platform on where you do trust up or store your funds just because you are trying to control up yourself on spending.We can actually do this on our own and its not really that necessary to have such feature or service because if people do really tend to control up themselves then they can
really do it anytime.

Its just a matter of self-discipline and control because if you dont have these things then you will surely spent your money as long you do know that you do have still into your pocket.
When you do gamble  then be sure that you only spend on the amount that you can afford to lose.
4676  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we headed for 250k btc in 12-18 months? on: July 22, 2020, 06:59:27 PM
But the difference between me and OP for example is that I believe 15-20k is a realistic place that we can reach so that is what I am focusing on, 12-13 is even more realistic and I will sell mine when it reaches there, on the other hand OP considers 250k is possible and that is why he might get more upset even while people are earning.
That is a fair assessment, the issue with all these huge valuation is that some are anticipating a rally before settling back to $15k to $20k and with the present economic situation it is not a realistic possibility that we would see a huge rally like we used to see in the past two halving and it all depends upon how strong the economic sector could hold all the debts accumulated during this pandemic.
Some analysts become very optimistic but somehow they are blind enough to see what is really happening today that could also a factor for an x growth in the future. I agree with $15k-$20k, it is fairly enough with the pandemic situation and truly achievable, but I'd never lost my hopes to see Bullrun run again. However, I was not very optimistic to think about a huge spike, $50k, $100k, and $250k, this will be just a dream at all.

All of us do hope for the best but going into numbers that way too far off to say isnt really my thing.Always god for realistic one so that you  wont get frustrated if the market didnt able to meet up your expectations.These numbers arent really that something new because you can see such stuff everynow and then specially when the market is tending to hype up.People can make calculations in advanced basing up on previous movements or into its history but to think that it wouldnt move the same way before.Its all random and it all basing up on communities support and demand.
$250000 price is too far-off from the reality.
4677  Economy / Gambling / Re: CRYPTOLOTTOSTORE.COM - Global lotto betting for cryptocurrency on: July 22, 2020, 02:31:14 PM
Is this site like an agent of those worldwide lotteries? What I mean by agent is that cryptolottostore acts like 3rd party who serve players who have no access to those worldwide lotteries by providing a way for players to buy lottery tickets easier? On the other words, prizes are not funded by cryptolottostore, but funded by the lottery providers. Am I right?
If it is true, so I wonder how cryptolottostore earn profit from the service, are they taking fee on winnings or maybe they get a commission from the lottery providers on every sold tickets?

All of your questions can be answered if you do try to read up the FAQ section of the site https://www.cryptolottostore.com/en/faq.
4678  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your opinion on Crypto.com's Earn and Binance's Savings? on: July 21, 2020, 11:44:44 PM
I don't have any experience with binance savings but knowing the exchange reputation, it's definitely going to be safe to HODL your investments there.
I'd say Binance is about as safe an exchange as you're going to find, but I still wouldn't trust them (or any crypto exchange) completely, and that's just based on the history of hacks and various other disasters that have befallen exchanges.  If you're going to try to earn some passive income with them, I would probably only risk a relatively small amount. 

I've never even heard of crypto.com, but my high level of ignorance is due to the fact that I don't do a lot of trading. 

OP, I understand your desire to put your crypto to work earning income, but I just think it's a bit too risky to do it through an exchange.  You might be better off just holding onto what you've got and hope for some nice capital gains down the road.
Much preferable rather than risking your stash with just having to had that minimal profit on a specific period of time and as other said it isnt really worth for the risk and the time spent.
You can just simply held it off into your wallet  and let it grow without sweating or minding the risk of hack  or scams.Its not  really a valid option for me since i can do trade up on my own
and i would prefer on having a long term hold position than on giving out my funds for that matter.

I havent heard of about Crypto.com but someone mentioned that this  one is another name which do correlate to a project/site that had past scam issues?
4679  Economy / Gambling / Re: CRYPTOLOTTOSTORE.COM - Global lotto betting for cryptocurrency on: July 21, 2020, 10:49:27 PM
Fortunately, I mentioned the voucher that expired the other day. See, extended continuously. I would also like to inform you that the bonus successfully reflects today on my balance. I'm still thinking about where I can bet, maybe at the lowest price just for, and at least I can try five times.

I hope the admins/teams can find a way to use cryptocurrency in betting on it and not just fiat.

Thank you so much for this promotion.

The promotion is working well with he people as seen many people enquiring about it and also trying to find out their luck by playing the lotto. I am sure the site would have witnessed many people at this time would be playing after the promotions being done on this forum, signature campaign, etc. Hope some of the members of this forum win those jackpots as well.

Im saying  this not just because  im part of their signature but in all the crypto lotteries out there i  can say that this one does really  have that significant impact.
It might not really be that much but at least they are getting some attention.They should continue on what they are currently doing in terms of
promotion and marketing.
4680  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Warning Exodus Wallet SCAM on Google Play! on: July 21, 2020, 09:55:47 PM
I no longer find this app at google play. It seems they have been accused and the application has been removed by moderators.
Google play has removed the app after it was reported and you can read that on the first page as OP has said that it was removed. It's not just an accused app but it's an actual scam app that's trying to get victims but good thing, it was removed.

The advice for you is to never use shady applications. Please go to the official website and download from the links there
Newbies who don't ask to anyone and just search apps on google play store on their own can't be blamed. They don't do research as they search a legit and official app that they have to install.

I dont really trust that much when it comes on installing something in my phone even if its  on legit sources like Google play and other app markets out there.
Im not saying that its totally cant be trusted but we know the tendencies or chances that you can possible fall out into scam. People are just way too lazy when it comes to verifying things up
and do carelessly installing without even minding on the risk behind. Hackers/scammers etc. will find always a loophole and ways to scam people thats why self
awareness and common sense will surely be a great thing to have from time to time.
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