So have I got this right: Are you saying they were on one campaign then switched signatures to collect a bounty then back again to cheat and claim another?


I've asked an admin to look into it.


And this is where the excuses start. It's always someone else who just happened to be posting on your internet connection. What was this other account?

No, it's not forbidden but if you've bought a hacked a account then it's stolen which is theft and you're not going to get any sympathy from anyone here. Also, emails prove nothing.

How do you know they're from the original owner? Did you get a signed message? There's a very long gap in the posting history which is often indicative of a hacked account.

There's a FAQ on coinmarketcap which explains where they get their data:

https://coinmarketcap.com/faq/


Click on the individual coins to see what exchanges each particular one uses.

PM cyrus. You might have respected the forum rules but if the account you bought was hacked I doubt you'll get any sympathy.

Lol, c'mon. Seriously? It's nonsensical not to peg it to fiat. Do you really want another situation where it costs tens of thousands to donate (or if the price falls it being much cheaper)? No. The current situation with donator ranks is ridiculous and if it was pegged to fiat then we wouldn't have this problem. Pegging to fiat is the only way to do this and everything here doesn't have to be in a static bitcoin value. Do you buy hardware wallets or anything else in a fixed btc value? No. Pretty much every place you use bitcoin pegs the value to fiat because it's illogical to set a fixed bitcoin price for obvious reasons.

And it will stop account farming if signature sizes are removed from ranks and the only way you can get a signature is to pay for it. It will also stop people having dozens or hundreds of accounts without paying the fee. People farm dozens and in some cases hundreds of accounts because it's absolutely free to do so and this is why we have people botting and farming accounts en mass. They then join lazy alt coin campaigns because they can easily exploit them to rank up their accounts and get paid in the process. If you have to pay $50 or whatever for a signature then these people would be severely restricted in the amount of accounts they can have. It also essentially stops account sales because it would be pointless buying them.

The "friends" excuse is just the bitcointalk equivalent of the dog ate my homework.

As I mentioned in the other thread a couple of these users were previously suspected of belonging to one person and many more were found with similar posting habits and with numbers at the end of their username such as these:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=972949 Krillin61 March 22, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973462 Kersh768 March 23, 2017,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=975077 Bowly88 March 27, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=989450 SacriFries11 April 24, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=989652 Jaycee99 April 24, 2017

Notice how they're all on Shadowtoken (another red flag with farming).

Notice how another user with numbers at the end of their name is quick to jump to their defence:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1045919 TanClan98 June 27, 2017


Now, of course some or all could be "friends" or "cousins" and it wouldn't surprise me seeing as there seems to be a lot of Filipinos getting all their "friends" and "family" involved to milk campaigns for all they're worth but if you actually check this thread there's also seemingly a lot of users with numbers at the end of their names as well (though I'm sure some are just a coincidence but it's something that definitely should be looked into) but the ones I mentioned above are more clear cut because of their posting habits and sign-up date etc.

Nah, we likely wouldn't. They probably wouldn't even make them if they had to pay anything but that's the beauty of it because only serious scamcoins crapcoins would actually shell out for the fee.

How does that prove anything? In fact, two accounts are registered days apart which is often indicative of alt accounts (though obviously not conclusive by itself).


A couple of these users were also previously suspected to be related along with many others (though they haven't been looked into yet unfortunately). Your campaign has probably been abused en mass by farmers and these accounts are likely only the tip of the iceberg. I noticed a while back that there seemed to be a lot of Filipino users who were farming accounts posting one after the other and most of them had numbers on the end of their usernames (with dozens and dozens already banned for shitposting and copy and pasting). The following have all since joined Shadowcoin as have some of the ones you mentioned that were on a list of suspected accounts belonging to the same user and also have similar sign-up dates:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=972949 Krillin61 March 22, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973462 Kersh768 March 23, 2017,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=975077 Bowly88 March 27, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=989450 SacriFries11 April 24, 2017

I've asked them to be looked into but there's dozen and dozens more that follow a similar pattern.

There are no quick ways to gain activity and you can only gain it over time. You can get 14 activity points every two week period and no more so just be an active member and over time you will rise through the ranks.

Because that was the safest thing to do. People would have wept like widows had the exchanges not actually give them the Alt coins and the most logical and safest thing to do would be to hold your own coins so you were responsible for them and could ultimately decide what to do with them.


I'm sure many would have been but it's easy to say this in retrospect. Many more would have complained when they wanted to dump them but didn't have access to them.

I don't think theymos will ever lower the current donator ranks and has previously stated it wouldn't be fair,  but that's not to say there couldn't be additional ranks which would be pegged to fiat. When I initially proposed it he seemed to think it could be a good idea but I've brought it up several times recently with no response which is a shame because I think it could severely restrict or even stop account farming if bigger signatures were included in the perks.

Theymos changed it. It is pretty annoying,  but if you want to search a board just go into the sub and use the search there.

Yeah,  I'll make it 0.01. I'll sort an address out later when I get on my PC and pm everyone it. Hopefully there's no drop outs but still a week left to try get a few more players.

Miners do that as their job therefor they will pay income tax. If you make money from trading or investing then you will only pay capital gains on your profits once you cash out or this is how it works in the UK at least but I assume it's the same in the States.

How do you know it's here to stay as its only been a few days? It could be next to worthless a few months from now.


Yes,  it's in the Alt Coin section with all the other coins.

I would be for it just as long as there was some sort of fee charged to be able to make a thread in there. If we don't do it with the bitcoin paying campaigns then it should at least be done with alts because they literally get away with free advertising when they pay out in the premined crapcoin and the spam from their campaigns alone likely makes up 95% of the issues here which staff are left to clean up and essentially run their campaigns for them.

Do you have the actual quote of this? Was he talking about the current Donator/VIP ranks or new additional ones? I don't think that just because somebody might take advantage of them to scam is a good enough reason. People can already buy accounts here to do that or use their already Hero/Legendary status to try pull off a scam anyway. In fact, you could probably argue that people who donate to the forum will be less likely to scam because they have money invested in their account.

What is your point here exactly? If they don't have or can't muster up the fee to post here then it just shows you how much faith they have in their product. If they were serious about listing it here then they would have no issue getting the funds together but for those fly by night scammers who just want to quickly throw their crappy idea out there and see if they get lucky it'll make them think twice.


There are already several other similar forums people could advertise on but they don't have anywhere near the userbase this one does so it would be futile even listing them there. People announce their coins here because it's the best way to do so and there's a huge userbase that will happily advertise here for you via signature campaigns, but running a signature campaign on forum with hardly any users would be equally as worthless.

I still don't see the logic how the forum would be supporting them. You pay a fee to post not gain support. You can already buy ad slots here but there's a disclaimer under each of them saying the forum doesn't support them and they could be scams and this would be no different.


It won't stop them completely but it'll stop all the broke fly by night scammers who have nothing to lose. At the moment anyone can create a crapcoin ico and pay an army of shills  to promote it all for free with a premined coin but if you had to pay then a lot wouldn't even bother. I'm really not sure why we even allow them to advertise here for free especially when probably 95+% of the spam and moderation is caused by them.