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4721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 21, 2023, 02:08:40 PM
Edson Alvarez's name is called with Dortmund recently. He is said to be the replacement of Bellingham for Dortmund. However I'm not sure about this. Because the roles these players have played in are different actually. Because Edson Alvarez is more of a player adopting a defense-oriented game. He has even played as a centre-back in times there was such need.

But Bellingham has a much more attacking-oriented game style. Therefore Dortmund could have bigger issues in creating many more goal chances in this case. Of course this is just what some news people believe so it might not be true.

Besides I would love to see a new young talent as Bellingham at Dortmund again to see his development.
Edson Alvarez has indeed played more to maintain depth in the midfield than to play to assist the attack even though he can be positioned as an attacking midfielder at times. Maybe Borussia Dortmund sees the potential in him and can become a player who can replace Jude Bellingham who left for Real Madrid next season.
Actually I don't doubt that Borussia Dortmund can juggle players and can play in various positions and that has been proven by creating a lot of very good players at a young age who eventually became one of the best players at the club he became after Borussia Dortmund sold him.
4722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 21, 2023, 01:53:41 PM
This time we will be seeing a new team being added among the ones which are joining the Champions League. Real Sociedad are also going there together with the usual four teams in the La Liga. As Sevilla had a really poor season in the La Liga they focused on the Europa League and won the title. In the meantime Real Sociedad benefited from the chance to get the last spot in top 4.

Villarreal were also in this fight for a while but after starting a bad form they started to fall behind Real Sociedad. I really think Real Sociedad deserved this. Because they have been really impressive during the season. For some time they were even ahead of Atletico Madrid by a quite big point gap.  Smiley
The last 3 seasons, Real Sociedad have only been able to rank 5th and 6th and this season they were able to push up and they managed to occupy 4th place and at the same time brought them to participate in the Champions League next season accompanying Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona which are indeed already a subscriber in the Champions League. Real Sociedad must be able to show that they are not just a complementary club, but that they can become a threat to other big clubs in the Champions League, and have even become regulars. They have the potential to do it and I hope it goes the way they want and manages to go far in the Champions League next season.
4723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 21, 2023, 12:03:08 PM
As usual, the Premier League is indeed a competitive league, so it is difficult for us to predict and say which club will be the superior club next season. Even though we put Manachester City as the club that has the biggest chance, it doesn't guarantee that they will easily win the title, as happened in the season we just passed. They had to fight hard to catch Arsenal, and they could be said to be lucky because the club they were after eventually experienced a decline in performance so that it was a little easier for them to coup the position that Arsenal had long occupied.

Next season will be different, and maybe we don't see Manchester City in the title race, that's possible right? because now a massive evaluation will be carried out by all clubs to navigate the 2023/2024 season
You are so valid, current performance is not indicative of future performance, Man City did well this season but that doesn't mean that they did not have changes. And if Arsenal could have done better than relenting when they needed to fight most, they would have won the title. Next season is another chapter that no one knows yet, there are viable contenders in the line-up.

A good contender to be watched for is Liverpool, I will not underestimate them with the comeback they displayed in the last months of this season.
Yes, that's true, but sometimes we forget and always make the previous season a benchmark for us to see what might happen, even though that's not wrong, that's not a guarantee either. There are many factors that will ultimately affect a club's performance, both internal and external factors which in the end make them drastically decline.
I hope one thing I want to say, clubs that are considered strong clubs now I hope they don't get lulled into the atmosphere of the comfort zone, however they have to improve every season so they are not overtaken by other clubs that are also experiencing improvements.



Manchester City is one of the strongest clubs. Just as well as Manchester united, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal too.
These clubs I mentioned have a capacity to win the league next season with the kind of performance we just witnessed. Although Arsenal may need to strengthen the attack with more experience and defense too, Manchester United has a well blended squad that's ready to do damage in the next season.

The quality and cohesion of the new players and managers who might be arriving these clubs is a big determinant on whether Manchester city would lift the trophy next season. It's all open down till the last 5games.
I agree with that, even clubs that are not on the list of clubs that you mentioned are also very likely to give surprises. This is the Premier League as we know it always brings surprises that we might not have thought of before.
Apart from all that, I just wish I watched the Premier League as usual where no club is far from being overtaken by other clubs in terms of points, because it makes the competition for the title a bit monotonous. I hope the rivalry will still exist even until their last 1 match.
4724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 21, 2023, 11:47:10 AM
Potential clubs don't mean benchmarks for champions because in this case we only talk about probabilities and when you look at big clubs, their probability is much higher so they are expected to continue to win doesn't mean there is a separate benchmark for big clubs to be champions because of course we know all the opportunities and everything is possible.
I don't deny that because it's true that from the several seasons that have always been held, it's the big clubs who take over but on the other hand we also can't rule out the fact that all possibilities in the competition can still happen regardless of whether it's a big or small club.

Basically, several of the strongest opponents are fighting for the cup, this is true, but the example of the last Champions League shows that everyone has a chance. If luck favors you and you get a favorable sortition, you might even make it to the final, as happened to Inter in this final. Did they have a chance to win in the final? Of course they were, they played quite well, but even a successful sortition does not guarantee victory, because despite their luck in the final, they would still have to play with one of the strongest.
Like I said, all clubs have a chance, but what makes the difference is how much chance they have to do that compared to other clubs who are also aiming for the same result. The advantage is that when a solid club is sure they are superior and it is commonplace that a club with certain strengths will be at the forefront when compared to a club that is one step behind the seeded club, such as Manchester City and Inter Milan and Champions League final this season.




When all the teams are fighting each other to fight for the highest trophy of this European caste, sometimes there is indeed a team that unconsciously can go through an isolated round and make it to the final. I used to think that the last final that won was Inter, in my opinion it was not without reason because they were able to gradually beat the top teams to get to the final against Manchester City.

In the match it was enough to prove that Manchester City vs Inter was quite even and there were almost no goals at all for 90 minutes because after all Inter would also work hard to strengthen its defense from the onslaught of Manchester City's attacks. But unfortunately Inter had to come to a halt after Manchester City took advantage of a gap in the crowd for Rodri to score one goal that decided the victory. At least we can see that the two teams were equally strong in the final and luck was not on Inter's side this time.
Maybe you mean that the two clubs played without a goal in the first 45 minutes, because Manchester City's winning goal came in the 68th minute.
It's not wrong to think that Inter Milan might win that match, because they also still have chances even though the chances they have are not as big as those of Manchester City. Even in the final match, they were actually able to play well and even in the final minutes there were several opportunities which, unfortunately, of all the opportunities they had, none of them resulted in a goal.
4725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Easy or hard to quit? on: June 21, 2023, 11:31:30 AM
Can you quit gambling if you make a life changing money and never go back to gambling?
Gambling is so easy to get into while dire hard to quit, it doesn't take a lot of determination to start but it demands a lot of determination and discipline to quit. And more harder to quit when you start making good sum of money out of it. Gamblers feel more entangled to gambling when they make large amount of money from it, with the illusion  that if they could make such life changing sum then it's possible they would make much more.  For my kind of gambler, with an urgency I'll quit.
In the end it comes back to self-control and of course emotional emphasis.
Many things actually look easy but in the end it is very difficult to do in gambling.
self-control, emotional control and financial management that really have to be enforced clearly will present a challenge that is even difficult to anticipate.
Everyone can gamble, but not everyone can get out of gambling, so in some cases or some countries, gambling is still prohibited because this is indeed more of a problem than the convenience you get.
But even so, it's still ongoing and I'm also still in this because it's like something is missing if there's no gambling.
4726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 21, 2023, 10:38:53 AM
Here We Go

Reported from Fabrizio Romano instagram account last few minutes, Al Nassr have reached personal verbal agreement with Hakim Ziyech and as soon possible will move there, its seems warning for Chelsea team because their several players interested by Saudi Pro League after success signing Hakim Ziyech still have several players in the transfer waiting list from Kalidou Koulibaly and Édouard Mendy. Can't stopping excited bid and offering from Saudi Pro League teams want to pay more than 100 million euro for payment salary. Looks good signing by Al Nassr signing Hakim Ziyech and Cristiano Ronaldo has great partner on right forward.

Have been several top European player move to Saudi Pro League teams from Karim Benzema, Nkante, Rúben Neves and Hakim Ziyech, who will be the next players move there?

Not too surprised by this actually because indeed with rumors for a player like Ziyech not being accepted at Chelsea it was actually the right decision.
Now more and more European players are in the Arab league and of course this will create conditions where the Arab league will be even more eyed because indeed players like Kante, Ziyech and Benzema will increase their popularity after Ronaldo's last season.
Now there are still some rumors and one of them is Zaha.
But indeed this is also mutually beneficial where the players get paid but the Arab league is clear with the exposure they receive of course it is worth it.
4727  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Teaching Bitcoin is not do or die on: June 21, 2023, 08:23:34 AM
We must remember about the context of teaching.
Teaching means that there are people who want to learn and want to teach, so there's nothing wrong with teaching bitcoin to people who want to learn, right?
The key is the desire when someone wants to learn then it's not wrong to just share with bitcoin but most of the time it's actually wrong in the sense because when telling people who don't know about bitcoin I prefer to say this is an introduction because they might just know about it for the first time and Introduce and teach are clearly two different things. but seeing from several threads sometimes the introduction and teaching are generalized so that things like this are created where there are pros and cons about learning about bitcoin.
4728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 21, 2023, 07:52:56 AM

That's right, we both hope for Milan that at least they have to buy two or three players to compete in the midst of an increasingly competitive Serie A competition. But other issues such as the sacking of Maldini from the club's technical director might be one of the reasons Milan haven't made any signings until now and I hope they can get through that.

Napoli was hit by the departure of Spalleti and with last season's winning squad there might be a significant difference, moreover Napoli have to adjust to their new coach Rudi Garcia for next season. So I think Napoli's problems are also not over despite securing the services of Raspadori and Simeone. Consistency is the key for all teams moving forward and that is also something that Napoli must do.
Their problems are still struggling with finances but indeed for now, especially with the return of Brahim Diaz to Madrid, of course it will create a gap and must be repaired immediately so inevitably they have to find alternatives now.

Now the name Samuel Chukwueze is still one of the players who is quite popular with Milan, but this possibility is a little difficult because there will definitely be a slightly higher price, moreover there will definitely be victims who are not inevitable if Samuel Chukwueze goes to Milan.

There are actually quite a lot of Milan players, it's just that their contributions are still relatively minimal, such as Origi, De Ketelaere and Yacine Adli. IMO actually deserve to be on Milan's selling list.
4729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 21, 2023, 07:15:51 AM
Clubs that are considered to be favorites cannot be said that they will become champions, and small clubs that are considered only dark horse clubs have the opportunity to surprise, as in a football match.
The things that might factor into how we classify them as you said obviously are a consideration of what results we analyze about what will happen in the competition.
All clubs have a chance, it's just how many percent we will give them chances, like for example We will definitely give Manchester City big chances the same as we will give chances to weaker clubs, but the difference is how many points we will give to rate them.
But i think that those favorite clubs will always become most potential clubs to win UCL next season. As you can see, that manchester city was signing some world class players even though it has the greatest squad in the world, but pep keeps adding more and more players to the club.
Im thinking if manchester city gonna be the strongest candidate to win UCL again next season. My main concern if manchester city will be using the same squad as last season to face the upcoming season.
I hope that city will able to go to the final again. There will be so many surprises next season. Newcastle potentially has to be a black horse in the UCL next season.
Im very happy to see this club plays in UCL after waiting for a long time. The new investors gave new face for newcastle.
Potential clubs don't mean benchmarks for champions because in this case we only talk about probabilities and when you look at big clubs, their probability is much higher so they are expected to continue to win doesn't mean there is a separate benchmark for big clubs to be champions because of course we know all the opportunities and everything is possible.
I don't deny that because it's true that from the several seasons that have always been held, it's the big clubs who take over but on the other hand we also can't rule out the fact that all possibilities in the competition can still happen regardless of whether it's a big or small club.
4730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 20, 2023, 04:55:16 PM
Arteta managed to create their main squad to play well and the chemistry between the players went well, but his success in creating good main players was not accompanied by their second tier players who could close the gap left if their main players had problems and could not be registered in the lineup. players when playing, that is one of their weaknesses which ultimately makes them lose stability a little towards the end of the season.
I'm sure Arsenal are aware of that and they are starting to make improvements so that the same thing doesn't happen again in the following season. But indeed it is not an easy task, the coaching staff must be good at finding talent to be able to create an even squad.
Mikel Arteta deserves appreciation for an accomplishment well done; I'm confident he'll develop his squad's football pattern as time goes on. Arsenal's performance this season was a surprise to the supporters; it was outstanding to watch the Gunners compete for the Premier League title race despite missing out, and also triumph their way back in the UEFA Champions League competition after an extended absence. The Gunners are in the transfer market, attempting to find quality players to boost the club's performance next season.
The problem they haven't solved so far is just about how they don't get out of the way.
Their performance in the last few seasons has always been seen where increases in performance and decreases in performance always come suddenly.
It would be great if it was on a performance bump but a sudden drop in performance doesn't do them any good of course. and this season may be one example where they are already 8 points ahead and have 1 remaining game but when their performance suddenly declines it makes them shift and have to settle for second place.
Arteta must look for the location of the problem here because if things like this continue to be allowed then this will indeed have an impact on them regardless of what their performance will be erratic in the end.
4731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 20, 2023, 03:09:11 PM
I don't know if it is only me that feels that Simeone needs to ATM. I am confident that if ATM gets a new coach, they perform better than what they do now. This does not suggest that Simeone is not a good coach but I am saying that he is used to the team and the players are used to him. Every season no new spirit, no tension, just do your normal thing and end the league in the top 4, we all know we cannot win Laliga when Real Madrid and Barcelona are there.
Being able to finish the season in the top three is something that doesn't have to be bad for ATM, because ATM is only less competitive than the other two big top teams, namely Barcelona and Real Madrid. But ATM still has a chance next season to be better in La Liga as well as in the UCL because ATM is not a weak team so any changes will definitely be considered if it is for the good of the team. Likewise when starting to maintain whatever is already there as well as coaches and players.
Diego Simeone joined Atletico Madrid in 2011, which means that for more than a decade he has led the team that is nicknamed Los Colchoneros. During that time he was with Atletico Madrid, I think his performance was stable, although several times he showed things that made them a little less than optimal, but that is a very normal thing in football.
If Atletico Madrid start thinking about replacing him with a new coach, there's no guarantee that they'll be even more successful, but you'll never know what the outcome will be if they don't try.
Meanwhile, Atletico Madrid doesn't seem interested in thinking about a new coach, because they still think Diego Simeone is still worthy and can lead the squad.
4732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 20, 2023, 02:43:29 PM
~Snip~
For this season Xabi Alonso has brought big changes to Leverkusen and thanks to him Leverkusen are now in sixth place for this season.
If Alonso continues to use some good strategies, it is possible that next season he will be in the top four, but this is not only from Alonso, because the Leverkusen players themselves are very influential in getting to that position.

Even though it is felt that it is very unlikely for Leverkusen to have the top position, at least there is hope for them to reach the top four positions next season.
Leverkusen have been much stronger since being coached by Xabi Alonso, the peak of which was that he was able to bring Leverkusen to reach the semifinals of the Europa League last season, his steps were stopped after being eliminated by Roma 0-1 on aggregate. Leverkusen's potential is getting better, changes in quality are increasingly visible in the last season. Finishing in 6th place is not too disappointing for Leverkusen, at least they can compete in the Europa League next season.
Leverkusen must walk slowly to give competition in the top four positions, speaking of the top position is still very far and difficult to achieve at least for now. Being able to finish in the Champions League zone is already a proud achievement for Leverkusen.

It is undeniable that Xabi Alonso brought Leverkusen to get up after they had difficulties at the start of the season, Xabi's work was not as smooth as that because they also experienced ups and downs and in the end Xavi was slowly able to push up to a better rank than before.
Xabi Alonso has done a good job so far and if he is given free rein I think he will be able to improve Leverkusen's form even better than he has this season. There is no coach who can perfectly bring his club to quickly achieve something extraordinary, but at least they can show a good process so that it makes us believe in the process that is being carried out.
4733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 20, 2023, 02:24:55 PM
yes, Arsenal needs to get backup players who have the same quality as their main squad. this is important for the rotation of players who are tired in every match. if Arsenal has several substitute players who are also playing well, this can also minimize the risk of injury from players in their main squad who is played too often.
however, Arteta also has to think about how to save their players to rest and also for important matches. this season they are quite disappointed, they have to improve next season.
That's really a big challenge because even though Arteta can sign few good versatile players, sometime those good players wanted to be included on starting line up rather than play as substitute players. He need to find a good player with low ego while most of good player has a high ego.

Arsenal always rely on Odegaard in midfielder and rely on Saka in striker, if both of them aren't playing, Arsenal will turn become a mediocre team.
Arteta managed to create their main squad to play well and the chemistry between the players went well, but his success in creating good main players was not accompanied by their second tier players who could close the gap left if their main players had problems and could not be registered in the lineup. players when playing, that is one of their weaknesses which ultimately makes them lose stability a little towards the end of the season.
I'm sure Arsenal are aware of that and they are starting to make improvements so that the same thing doesn't happen again in the following season. But indeed it is not an easy task, the coaching staff must be good at finding talent to be able to create an even squad.
4734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 20, 2023, 02:06:47 PM
Next season will be really tensive and unpredictable, Alot of team are really preparing to challenge Manchester city next season and Manchester city is also strengthening their team also, so we should expect an interesting games and more winning for gamblers.  I'm sure, Manchester city will not retain the title, Newcastle and Manchester United are the favourite for next year title contenders. Liverpool and Arsenal may not make the top four list next season, Liverpool needs to reshuffle their team while Arsenal has to bring in more and build a team they Will compete well.
As usual, the Premier League is indeed a competitive league, so it is difficult for us to predict and say which club will be the superior club next season. Even though we put Manachester City as the club that has the biggest chance, it doesn't guarantee that they will easily win the title, as happened in the season we just passed. They had to fight hard to catch Arsenal, and they could be said to be lucky because the club they were after eventually experienced a decline in performance so that it was a little easier for them to coup the position that Arsenal had long occupied.

Next season will be different, and maybe we don't see Manchester City in the title race, that's possible right? because now a massive evaluation will be carried out by all clubs to navigate the 2023/2024 season
4735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 20, 2023, 01:51:15 PM
In terms of probability it is clearly different but in terms of opportunity it is certainly the same, even though the conditions for a big club clearly have more advantages over the favorite but they still can't make it seem like the small club isn't there.
Now for the Champions League there could be some unexpected forces. Newcastle with the power of money and their passion to be better or even another club that is not really a favorite there could be several conditions like that during the 2021/22 season for Villarreal and last season for 3 Serie A clubs which were even surprising in the quarter final .
Even though the championship is still about how pots and clubs subscribe in terms of probability but still in terms of surprises for the Champions League, clubs like this with ordinary strength often do it.

If we see it like a team have the chance to become the Champions League champions as long as they haven't been eliminated yet then yes. In this situation we can see it like even the weakest team of the tournament have an opportunity. However I don't think the majority of people would think in this way while assessing the teams that can win the title.

People always look at how strong these teams are. Then they classify what teams can really win this title considering the strength and success factors. Of course not all the time the biggest title contenders win the title. For example Chelsea won the Champions League title in the 2020/2021 season while not many people were giving them a chance. Of course Chelsea are also a top team but they were trailing behind many others you know.

But when we look at the general history of the tournament the champions are nearly always the most performing teams with quality players.
Clubs that are considered to be favorites cannot be said that they will become champions, and small clubs that are considered only dark horse clubs have the opportunity to surprise, as in a football match.
The things that might factor into how we classify them as you said obviously are a consideration of what results we analyze about what will happen in the competition.
All clubs have a chance, it's just how many percent we will give them chances, like for example We will definitely give Manchester City big chances the same as we will give chances to weaker clubs, but the difference is how many points we will give to rate them.
4736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: June 20, 2023, 10:37:35 AM
That possibility is a condition where indeed the gambler and the agent really know each other so that they take a risky action when allowing something that has the potential to be like that and indeed that is also evidenced by your words that say regular customers.
Regardless of anything I can't say the agent is also innocent because he is careless but on the other hand, of course it is the gambler who really cannot rely on emotions and acts so stupid by doing things that he cannot face in terms of the consequences and things like this really besides harming yourself and harming others.
4737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Without money, the knowledge is a waste on: June 20, 2023, 10:07:33 AM
Imho, knowledge is a waste if you can use that knowledge. Knowing everything does not mean anything. I mean what is the point of knowing theory, when you can use that on practice? Some might operate, that "you never know when you need this and that skill or knowledge", but you can be ready for everything. Life would be boring then. But money is just an instrument to achieve things.

P.S. If knowledge is waste without money, then what is money without knowledge? A toy in fools hand? Necessity?
A good point, a condition that must be realized is when we only stick to books and theory but don't apply it in practice.

Many people are always fixated on conditions where only knowledge is honed so that they become proficient but in other conditions they have nothing in mastery of the field because they have never been there. What.
Not that theory is bad, but indeed being too fixated on theory is also not very good in this regard, considering that sometimes the findings obtained in the field will have some differences that can add mentality and insight that cannot be obtained in theory.
4738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 20, 2023, 08:02:59 AM
I counter the notion that Juventus may not vie for the Scudetto next season. Despite a tough season, they showed grit. Without point penalties, they might've clinched a Champions League spot. Next season? I foresee a top-four finish, not just a Europa League pass. With Vlahovic staying and a few top-notch additions, they're primed for a comeback. Let's believe in Juventus

At the moment, bookmakers see the next season as follows:

Inter 3.00

Napoli 3.50

Juventus 4.33

Ac Milan 6.00

Quite fair assessments in my opinion and I'm glad that even though Napoli is not a favorite, they are taken seriously, and not underestimated as usual. Milan objectively looks worse than all the other teams from the big four.
An assessment which is quite fair now because looking at the current conditions is indeed as you said because even though Napoli are the defending champions there is still no guarantee whatsoever for them at this time.
But looking at the current odds, even though it's quite balanced, I'm not too sure about odds like that. Moreover, saving money with bets in the long term, I'm not too interested in the existing bets.
Even so, it is interesting to predict the Serie A champions next season because all conditions can still occur next season, especially for big clubs.
4739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 20, 2023, 05:54:48 AM

Small clubs must have the same opportunities as big clubs, even though the competition is indeed lower, but at least it is a stage for them to be able to show that they can actually develop even though they cannot compete with the big clubs yet, so I agree with you.

The Conference League was created to give clubs who are finding it extremely difficult to qualify for the Europa League or Champions League a chance to experience the atmosphere of European matches. This also gives them a very big opportunity when they become champions, because they get a place to compete in the Europa League for the following season.

How the small teams like Sevilla or Newcastle or other teams can have the same chance as Real Madrid and Manchester City? Just the market value for these two teams and you understand how strong they are and the players they are not comparable with other teams, since they had more investment in there they will obviously get better results too.

In terms of probability it is clearly different but in terms of opportunity it is certainly the same, even though the conditions for a big club clearly have more advantages over the favorite but they still can't make it seem like the small club isn't there.
Now for the Champions League there could be some unexpected forces. Newcastle with the power of money and their passion to be better or even another club that is not really a favorite there could be several conditions like that during the 2021/22 season for Villarreal and last season for 3 Serie A clubs which were even surprising in the quarter final .
Even though the championship is still about how pots and clubs subscribe in terms of probability but still in terms of surprises for the Champions League, clubs like this with ordinary strength often do it.
4740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you handle long shot bets? on: June 19, 2023, 04:32:41 PM
Mindset is important if you have a mindset that you don't want to stress yourself and just want to have fun then yes you can do it, I've done it many times, and still doing it you have to accept that you are in a  gambling platform even if you're wishing that you want to win big money, the house edge can bust your wish, so it's better not to stress yourself and accept the results, having fun should not be stressful.
Accept the results, either losses or profits, correcting one's mistakes and looking for a renounce back to the system. Mindset is the primary aspect that distributes the functions and our abilities in gambling, and I never hold back on any attributes that would make my day stressful, constantly looking for more evaluations. Although winning big does not appear to be as easy as it sounds, an additional effort is required. Gambling has remained the final target for individuals who depend on it for everything, pointing in the direction of stress-free activities, with 100% consideration.
There will be several types of people who come to gambling, there will be people who really aim to have fun, there will be people who come with the intention of winning, that in the end being a gambler becomes stressed because of their own initial goal. Meanwhile, people who from the start are meant to have fun, they will receive whatever the outcome of their gambling is, and winning is a bonus that will make their pleasure even greater.

If someone comes with the intention of winning gambling, then they will chase defeat and that makes them more stressed. Instead of winning they will get instead they will get defeat, because they will always want to return their losses.
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