Hi, Lauda Since we are in last week of camaping could you please write here how would distribution looks like: 1- when will stakes be calculated 2- since Vivid is not on eth anymore - do we need to create wallet? Where to put our adress to recive tokens? 3- when will distribution happen 4- is it the end of camaping or mayby there will be again few extra weeks? 5- Are there any special requirments which dont fulfilled will result in a disqualification? (joining telegram/creating wallet/ KYC etc) I dont want to miss anything and loose chance to get tokens. Since now I was only reporting my work in forms with eth adress. Good day  |
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Recently I asked about day trading tips on this forum and got really nice response. Some one introduced me to Voodoo day trading community where I found perfect atmosphere to learn day trading and technical analysis: https://discord.gg/yBmNzRm I have spent last whole week in the free channel in the group and learnt some interesting tricks and earned a decent amount of money. Although free channel has helped me immensely so far but it feels like to reach the next level, I have to join paid channel. I wanted to ask that is it worth to pay for learning day trading or I could found free stuff instead? This forum has been a great help to me in past. I hope I will get some valuable feedback this time too. It was green week. It was hard to loose on it. Next level on paid channel? You mean 3 steps back. To learn trading you need basic knowledge (1-2 h of learning TA) and months of experience. Leave group, go to binance and trade as much as possible. Chose min bet (~8$) and trade. Do lots of mistakes. Learn from each. -10% on 8 $ bet is 80 cents. And what you learned from it is priceless. After few days you will say : i've lost 10$ but learned this and this and this after few weeks you will say : i've earned 20$ but ive learned this and this and this after few months you will increase bet and say ; I've earned 2000$ and still learned this and this What would you say after few month trading by telegram signals? I learned that this and this and this group is not legit, this is quite good but im still on big waste. (if you will find 1 legit) Trading is not like "ok i see this formation and this indicator - ok ill buy and sell 4,5% higher". When you start to earn on market you loose ability to explain how to earn. When i started years ago it was soo easy to explain. Trend lines, fibonachi, ichimoku, RSi. It works perfect in theory but not on market. Now i look at chart and buy, than i see that it is mooving not like it should to move up further. Its going to be dumped ... im out ... and dump comes after my exit. And i cant explain why. It comes with experience. And what i've learned after years is that TA dont show you where will price go. It shows you where will supply/demand from TA lovers appear. If its not moving like it should it means that whale is using supply/demand from TA lovers and will move chart oposit to make them close position on lost (his profit). |
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Buy Ethereum because it has good future since many token are use Ethereum smartcontract. But if you choose bitcoin then it also good but don't buy it when the market condition is positive, you should be contrarian when you jump in cryptocurrency investment.
Etherum is currently kindergarder for small/scam projects. Every sucessed token moves to their own blockchain (bnb, ven, trx, icx) and almost every week I read that xxx token is lauching mainnet and leaving ETH. Reason for that is that ETH is not able to hold the load form 1 project that hit mass adoption (and there are hundreds project on it currently). Voting on Fcoin overload ETH that much that gas price jumped from 2-5 gwei to 100+ - voting on exchange (1 vote per 1 transfer to exchange)! Milions are beeing lost by bugs on eth https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/08/cryptocurrency-300m-dollars-stolen-bug-etherIf ETH wont fix it it will be overtaken by EOS, STELLAR, WAVES, NEO, NEM, QTUM and many others (some of them not created yet) that are able to do the same but are currently not as much popular. Beeing nr.2 currency dasnt make it safe. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20131229/Historical snapshot -december 2013 Which of top 10 coins were profitable since now? Litecoin only 290%Ripple 2000%Omni -90%
Peercoin -80%NXT 100%Namecoin - 75%
Quark -95%
Bitshares -~100%
Wordcoin -~100%Etherum can be like Omni/Peercoin - disappear in next 5 years if it wont fix bugs. I wont suggest to invest in ETH to anyone. From those two (from any other pair too) i would choise bitcoin for long term and trading it to alts (even in ETH/BTC pair) for short term to increalse its amount. |
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no my friend. "signal group" is just a pretty word for the same old "pump group" and there is no difference apart from the fact that the signal group tries their best to hide the fact that they are a pump group otherwise they are not giving you trading signals. they don't even work for altcoins because of the high level of manipulation in the market itself so you can't even analyze the market and come up with a "signal" in first place.
and a pump group can also work on any coin. it doesn't have to be a small one. of course it is easier to pump smaller coins but it is sometimes more profitable to pump a bigger coin and depending on the size of the group and how much money the owners have they can pump any altcoin.
In pump and dump group eveyone knows that it is gambling. To earn you need to be first. Thats why they put small percentage of their funds. Thats why even 10 000+ members group has less than 100 btc buy volume. I think its not enough to pump big coins (2% is not a pump for me)(at liest on big exchanges where they will be able to sell it). Thats why to use those 100 BTC as good as possible they choise easy to pump coins and set exact date days/weeks beafore and whole 100 btc is pumped in less than 15 sec pumping price 30-200%. In ~1000 members signal groups buy volume can be close to 10 BTC max? There are newbies (pro are trading by themselve) and most of them are not online (not ready for pump). They are puting those 10 btc not in 15 sec but in 3-5h period. They work and act totally different. Even if signal group will pump price 1-3% (giving those ~2% profit to admins) in 3 h period its not pump and dump group which pump price 30-200% in 15 sec. Huge signal group with 10 000+ members can slowly push price few % Regular pump and dump group can push price very fast up to 200% in 15 sec That's why i try to convince that saying that they are the same is wrong. I've never seen pump and dump group pumping coins from top 10 in marketcap. But i've seen signal even on BTC/USD pair (tell me now that this signal on ~2000 members group pumped bitcoin)
they don't even work for altcoins because of the high level of manipulation in the market itself so you can't even analyze the market and come up with a "signal" in first place.
Thats why I alwais say when someone from signal group is telling me: -"look at this trades and profits." -What is your accuracy than. Its easy to show 10 profitable trades out of 50 signal given. - and most are not answering this question. If they do it looks like this: -"We have 90%+ accurancy" -i see there is no stop loss on those singals. Its easier without it to have 90% accurancy beacuse you w8 till profit accepting risk of -100% of some trades and locked capital for months. And -90% and then pump to 2% profit is still profitable trade. In that way you can have 90% profitable trades and still have wallet on lost. Or after first lost trade has some percentege of locked capital, with secon another part, third ... etc. till whole capital locked in waste trades waiting for pump to 2% profit on 1 to unlock something for next trade. For now no leader answer this. |
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Guys i m new i want to know why people make a trading signal channel what the purpose ??
and what you guys think about crypto trading channel ?
For money 1- They have VIP option that is paid. (money) 2- group members are pushing price higher. (money) 3- If group is big enought signal is not nessesary. Group is pumping price. Thats how many signal groups converts to pump and dump groups. Admin of this group of cours buys beafore signal and dump on group members (even more money) Using signal goups in pointless because you will never learn to trade. When you will make waste trade you will blame leaders and all you will learn from this is that this group is not legit, lets jump to another. Do your own trades. Even if you are unexperienced. Chose lowest possible bid (0,001 btc in binance ~ 8$) and make as mannny mistakes as possible. Learn from each and be better from every. After few days you will say : i've lost 10$ but learned this and this and this after few weeks you will say : i've earned 20$ but ive learned this and this and this after few month you will increase bit and say ; I've earned 2000$ and still learned this and this What would you say after few month trading by telegram signals? I learned that this and this and this group is not legit, this is quite good but im still on big waste. (if you will find 1 legit) How about free channel without vip They are earning on nr 2 and soon after on nr. 3 if they want that. 2- group members are pushing price higher. (money)
3- If group is big enought signal is not nessesary. Group is pumping price. Thats how many signal groups converts to pump and dump groups. Admin of this group of cours buys beafore signal and dump on group members (even more money)
Or they are free to gain users to look more legit beafore enabling VIP signals. |
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Everyone who listen to me and bought ven from 0,00025 - 0,00022 BTC in now close to 40% profit. I sold my VET today but there will be one more pumping anounce from binance (adding VTHO trading pairs). Maybe i will rebuy after dump from current price. If not 35% is enought for me. There might me also pump 2018/08/01 00:00 beafore airdroping VTHO. It will dump 78% in next week ) Where is your dump? I think that adding VTHO trading pairs will pump VET. Next VET pump will be caused by VTHO pump (easy to pump). My strategy is to buy when it will dump. W8 for news and sell on pump. W8 for dump and buy beafore pump on VTHO. If price wont be dumped now ill just be happy from my profit and move on to next pair. |
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"Trading Signals" channels are basically pump and dump groups. They buy a certain low-cap coin/token, then tell their followers to buy this certain coin/token hence the price goes up. Then, they sell for a profit. That's pretty much it. In a group such as this, only the higher ups make profit. The one's that follow gets fucked up.
No they are not. Pump and dump groups gives signal at specyfic time anounced weeks beafore to collect as much volume as possible. To make sure that everyone is ready to buy at 20:00. Not 21:00 or 22:00 or even 20:15 when he get to computer and realise that there was a signal. Signal groups are just giving singals when its "good time to buy" Pump and dump groups needs at liest 10 000 members online Signal groups dont. But when they get that much members can convert (but dont have to) Pump and dump groups pump low volume, low marketcap coins that are easy to pump at current moment (low walls). (they wont pump and dump bitcoin/ripple or any other big coin) Signal groups gives signal at any coin. Join at liest one pump and dump group and signal group beafore posting about them. |
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Guys i m new i want to know why people make a trading signal channel what the purpose ??
and what you guys think about crypto trading channel ?
For money 1- They have VIP option that is paid. (money) 2- group members are pushing price higher. (money) 3- If group is big enought signal is not nessesary. Group is pumping price. Thats how many signal groups converts to pump and dump groups. Admin of this group of cours buys beafore signal and dump on group members (even more money) Using signal goups in pointless because you will never learn to trade. When you will make waste trade you will blame leaders and all you will learn from this is that this group is not legit, lets jump to another. Do your own trades. Even if you are unexperienced. Chose lowest possible bid (0,001 btc in binance ~ 8$) and make as mannny mistakes as possible. Learn from each and be better from every. After few days you will say : i've lost 10$ but learned this and this and this after few weeks you will say : i've earned 20$ but ive learned this and this and this after few month you will increase bit and say ; I've earned 2000$ and still learned this and this What would you say after few month trading by telegram signals? I learned that this and this and this group is not legit, this is quite good but im still on big waste. (if you will find 1 legit) |
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for instance in case of LTC its USD value shows a 295% rise (yes it is 295% not 400%) .
You are right. I did not calculate it exactly. I estimate it only to show that its performance was way worst than bitcoins this is a bit misleading though because you are looking at their USD value where in fact you should have checked their BTC value. most people are investing in these coins with bitcoin and don't care about their USD which is why whenever there is a bitcoin rise these coins keep their BTC value more or less and show rise in term of USD where in reality there was no rise.
Just like i do. I'm trying to earn satosi, not dolars from each trade. But OP asked why we invest in bitcoin rather than altcoins. So his strategy is more like "i have dolars, where to put them". I cant say to someone that bitcoin is better investition because by investing in altcoins you would have less bitcoins. |
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Beacause bitcoin is like gold. 99% of other coins are just speculative tools for whales to increase amount of bitcoin. Current investors are so blind screaming HODL HODL and showing etherum, ripple growing faster than bitcoin. But just jump to Historical Snapshots from for example 2013. Which coins from top 50 are still on market. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20131229/Which of them are on profit since 2013 (bitcoin made 1 000% since than). Litecoin only 400%Ripple 2000%Omni -90%Peercoin -80%NXT 100%Namecoin - 75%Quark -95%Bitshares -~100%Wordcoin -~100%And those are coins from top 10! It means that if it will happend again 6/10 coins from top 10 (eth, bth, eos, stellar, iota, tron) will be on 90% loss Ripple will have 200% profit and Litecoin 50%, cardano 400%(just example). In that time bitcoin will made next 1000% Now you know why hodl is worst option and when it comes to investing there is only bitcoin? 1/10 from top 10 coin was better than bitcoin. If you would spread your capital equal to top 10 your potfolio would be on lost (on crypto market where whole market made 20 000%. You can still trade and earn on alts. But investing and hodling is like buying ticket in lottery. We like bitcoin not because its obvious. We like bitcoin because it has best infrastructure, hype, community developing it, decentralization, usage, largest perspective. Others are here and wont be in next year after. |
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"19 things that everyone knows after 1 hour of reaserch after hearing from other person "bitcoin is rising fast" and tiping to google "what is bitcoin" "- i think that this is correct topic.
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Not much of a shtty exchange dude. Look, before binance, there is bittrex. And what if those coins you'll be having is not existing in binance? What now? Of course if you wanted to sell those coins for something, then go and find another "shtty" exchange you are talking about to sell that. Well, you've ate your words congratulations. You went to an exchange that is sht and you hate shtty exchange.
Yea there was bittrex. But then came binance and ATE it and any other exchange in 1 YEAR. Now bittrex has 100 mil volume (1/15 of binance volume). Go there and sell 100 btc worth of any alt. Go daytrade there with 1% spread. Pay 2x more fees than on binance. For what? For worst interface? They are "shtty" but not totaly useless. Their only purpose is to sell coins not listed on binance and run out of them. And do it wisely. They are cheating in any possible way. LBANK has 50 $ withdrawal fee for withdrawing USDT! And you can withdraw only in 8h period a day. |
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There are not houndreds of exchanges. There is only binance and looong way down in the dust there are other like huobi, okex and thats it. Rest are shitexchanges or they will become one due to lack of volume or FAKE VOLUME. Yea some exchanges from top 20 has up to 90% of fake volume. Ive tried binance, huobi, okex, cryptopia, kucoin, uex, Ddex, etherdelta, BIBOX, Lbank, Bitforex, coinbene. Only binance, huobi and okex is worth to recomend but binance is admittedly nr.1. Rest are usable only for coins not listed on binance and only to buy/sell and run out of it. There is no way to daytrade and even trading is hard due to low volume and shit and slow interface (spread close to 3% on Lbank - top 12 exchange almost on every pair).
And you know why Lbank has that big spread with that big volume (top12?). Because most of their trades are fake. They are trading with themselves.... I've noticed that too on Bitforex and UEX.
Top trading pair on Lbank today? ZEC/ETH ... yea right... The one that noone was looking at and they can throw as many fake trades as they could.
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115 BTC ATM. its 53 % in 3 days. I dont know if its gonna develop this fast but if so we can see up to 1000 btc in 2 weeks from now and 10 000 btc in month from now. I tell you guys. We are close to the moment when lots of people will start to talk about it and pump price. Thats what good investor do. He knows before others.
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I've seen similar topics in 12 april after pump from 6800 to 8000 we crashed downtrend, resistance and loots of AT bullshit. Soo manny investors was catching bitcoin at 9000 and 9500 writing here that it is last chance and after 1,5 month we have new dip at 5800. If i didnt have bitcoin i would buy it now (because i feel unsafe on fiat only) but only with 20-30% of my money i have prepeared for investment into bitcoin and w8 for 6k for another 30% and then at 5500-6500 another 30%.
I dont thing that it is good strategy to w8 for 100% profit than sell half and take any risk with rest because:
1- market dont know where is your 100%. If market is slowly getting strength than i wont sell even with 200% profit. If market is getting ready for dump and im at 30% profit i would sell with 30% profit.
2- Free money are also money. Taking too much risk with them will burn them. Imagine that you bought bitcoin for 1$ for 10 000 $. Now you have 70 mil dolars and you just read your post. You sell 1,5 bitcoin for 10 000 $ and with 69 990 000$ free money you take any risk without thinking jumping into ICO and loosing all. No problem - it was free money
After getting experience you would realise that your entry price does not matter. You should forget about it as soon as you finished transaction. If your prediction is sounth than you should sell. If north than you should buy more. Thinking all the time about entry price makes you doing stupid things like "my prediction as a trader is that price is going to be dumped but i wont sell beacuse i bought higher" and you were right and you are now on big loss.
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