you people seem intent on ignoring it
..."ignoring" as in it's been the devs's headline blog entry for nearly a year ? ..."ignoring" like as in top hit on google for "birth of Darkcoin" ? ..."ignoring " as in giving it pride of place in Darkcoin's own FAQ's ? You've just arrived about a year late to the party and started bouncing off the walls like an over excited hamster thinking your some kind of Columbo.
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it's mentally challenged community.
b.t.w. don't mean to be pedantic but that should be "its" mentally challenged community
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Darkcoin, as the fantastic brand, should have been left alone, to grow among the lunatic fringes of societies, it should have been offered to Occupy where anonymity is needed, it should have been a part of Wikileaks, it should have grown among the people that fight for privacy, for our right to property, to our right to be anonymous when we want to be, it should've been a part of Tor, and it should've been a tool to help us fight for our freedom.
I read all this with great interest and I think you encapsulate well the views of most people who are opposed to the name change. All the same, I find myself drawing the opposite conclusions from all the same reasons you cite. For example, I don't think sticking with "Darkcoin" is courageous at all. I just think it's lazy. The word "Darkcoin" may have connotations of liberty, freedom and anonymity for you, but for some of us who've seen a few decades of such struggles it's just another yawn, go nowhere toothless piece of symbolism unless it's practical enough for all to access not just what you call the "lunatic fringe". That's another point where I'd take issue with you. I don't regard myself as the "lunatic fringe". Neither I think would Wikileaks, neither would "Occupy". All these groups probably see themselves as representing the interests of most ordinary citizens globally. These are ambitious, intelligent movements your talking about, not bedroom fanatics. When it comes to monetary matters they'll use whatever best suits their needs at the time, not some kind of flag waving symbol that can't get the job they need done simply because it's not accepted anywhere that makes a difference. Darkcoin will be nothing if it can't provide a service - especially to those groups who you cite around the world who need and seek financial dignity and anonymity. You may call that "appeasement", I simply call it "making yourself useful" since for me the name "Darkcoin" is even more of a joke than "Dash" if people think it's any more than a blunt spear when it comes to being of real service. The real courage in all this is to have taken on the rebranding process at all. Feel free to come up with a name you feel better about if you don't like the one being proposed, but IMO your argument makes the case for sticking one's head in the sand and pretending there's not a problem when there is. Wikileaks don't give a frig what the name of the currency they use is. In fact as far as their practical day-to-day financial activities go they probably need risky, "lunatic fringe" facilities like a hole in the head. P.S. That Fed document you cite if about as significant as a 1994 study of travel companies making airline bookings available on the web.
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BTC charts are starting to come round.
This might launching pad for the assault on $300.
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Bots at work on cryptsy again... There was just a huge buy wall at 107k and poof it's gone.
Nevermind, it was sold into. But that could be the bots creating volume.
There's a rotation going on. Masternode size chunks are being sold and also bought around 0.01. Some people are moving out and others are moving in.
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Motherfucker .. I am going to troll monero from today.
I wouldn't have thought there was any need to take it out on them. They can't be held responsible for the neurotic crackpots that float around these threads.
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LoL. Maybe it's not as tiny as you thought
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I don't agree. We can deal with our pet trolls.
Let people say what they want, they portray themselves and the coins they support. Is very informative
+1 estic d' acord
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It is here where XMR, and in particular the emission rate of XMR, comes into the picture. If XMR were to reach a level of say twice its current price, say 0.0044, this would put the capitalization of XMR above 8 million USD
Except the Monero dev team are a lazy feet-up-on-the-couch crowd who can be bothered writing about 5 lines of code a month. The only reason I'm a holder (from the cryptonote exchange days) is because I can't get a mac wallet to fire my remaining XMR off after nearly a year. (Thats because they've got "so much to do" that they've delegated it to 3rd parties ). Monero is an interesting experiment but a dead duck as as currency. If you've ever had the pleasure to interact with any of their staff on bitcointalk you'll get the overwhelming understanding that it's about as serious as a school electronics project. Monero is: 5% coding and doing anything useful 20% web development attempting to convince people that it's doing anything useful 70% smooth and fluffypony blabbering nonsense on bitcointalk about how 'cryptography' is the solution to everything 5% looking for people with letters after their name to rubberstamp the project
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Trusting 3rd parties defeats the point of Satoshi's proof of work breakthrough.
For someone who champions the principles of Satoshi in other themes, you sure appear deficient when it comes to understanding how those principles manifest in practice. In case you hadn't noticed, every bitcoin node and wallet is run by a 3rd party. That's the whole point of the principle known as decentralisation. Please read this post by the ex Darkcoin, now Nose-Out-of-JointCoin team member Vertoe: i.e. what he's pointing out there is that masternodes are the one-and-the-same wallet that every DASH holder runs on a day to day basis for accessing their funds. There is no separate application, no separate "3rd party". The network IS the masternodes. The dual layer aspect of it is implemented by way of disparate functional wallet roles not disparate owners. That's the beauty of this design. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=939072.msg10344491#msg10344491
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Diminishing emission curve favors the early adopters. A reasonable, linear curve is as fair today as it will be x years from now
Look - AdamWhite's actually started making constructive posts. We've turned him around
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Tok your posts make me go broke Consider it a philosophical observation
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Does anyone remember when colour TV arrived ? One of the BIG selling points of colour TV was that it was...."colour". Entire brands based their whole existence on the fact that they had a colour TV. Well, think of 'anonymity' is to cryptocurrency as 'colour' is to TV. When you haven't got it - hey, it's a big deal. But once you've got it you need some vision to see - where is this going ? Darkcoin was a great name - make no mistake about it. But it was the 'colour TV' of crypto. The first big feature on top of bitcoin. Once thats under the belt, the players that will stay afloat in this market are those that have the breadth of vision to see that as a staging post. The real golden nugget that DASH posseses isn't colour TV, it's a dual layer, service oriented network that delivered anonymity and will now start delivering the rest of the roadmap. Thats what's going to propel this baby forward. People can call it whatever they like, and throw as much mud as they like, but nature is nature and nature has always needed harmonic, co-operative action to deliver anything at all. instrument+player = music reader+book=understanding html+css !! = content and form In 1968, calling your TV brand "Colour TV" must have been pretty cool. In 2015 I'm not to sure P.S. While I've been writing this, looks like some people are getting tired of waiting for the "crash"..... ...+ my favourite new toy, the "On Balance Volume" indicator has turned around (Takes volume into account more than price )
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Without a doubt, the decision to rebrand has opened doors to companies to discuss Dash with that previously did not want to discuss Darkcoin.
Exactly. If you look at it purely from an asset valuation point of view (as in a company buys 300 new tractors so they can boost their productivity in response to new markets), the exposure to previously closed markets that becomes available warrants a doubling of the valuation for a start.
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None of your examples are world class brand. If you want to create the next Bitcoin, your brand name must be important enough too.
And I'm not the only one, look how many people hate this new name.
AizenSou - I won't disrespect your opinion because it's clearly held in good faith, but I must just respond for the record. It's been well argued that the name reflects the product more than the product reflects the name - specially if it's a name that doesn't carry too much weight of its own. Names are a glass half full - glass half empty thing. A name can't "kill a coin" IMO but a coin can sure kill a name as we've seen with a whole flotilla over the last year. The power lies with the product and the name needs "work" which this one does IMO. All the same, if it's not palatable for some I respect their right to follow their preferences - thats what markets are for and I definitely believe in the power of markets. I won't be selling though because for me, this type of action is exactly the reason I got into this coin. I think it's necessary, constructive and brave.
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Ok I made a simple comparison. Go to google and type DASH. Then do it again and type Darkcoin. You will see what is the difference. Evan you're a genius coder but a disaster in marketing.
Of all the reasons I can think of for dumping your holdings, that's probably one of the more ludicrous. He would have been a "disaster in marketing" if he'd stayed with a name that's synonymous with being stuck in a dark corner. I've spent the last 10 years writing eCommerce systems for highly competitive businesses where they are precious as hell about their SEO. Google has changed its trawling algos beyond recognition in the last few years. Just because you've got a year's worth of 'clicks' to your credit doesn't mean you can't be dropped in an instant or - conversely - that you can't capitalise on rankings that you've earned to date. What the marketing team need to do is carefully use 301's to redirect the crawlers to the new domains. That will let the new domains capitalise on the ranking that the current sites have. https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/93633?hl=enAt any rate, search engine rankings are only 1 aspect of a very big proposition - if anything it's why the name change needs to be done now and not when the project's been driven so far up the "dark" cul-de-sac that it doesn't have an option anymore. Also, see this..... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg10740995#msg10740995
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I just wish we could get back to the technology part of things. We are a technology and solution driven community with members that should be able to grow through learning and part of learning is making mistakes. Without mistakes we wouldn't have DGW, we wouldn't have the spork, and we surely wouldn't have ds+, ix, or masternode blinding........
What dash n't kill you only makes you stronger.
Keep Calm. Dash On.
Fantastic post ! Here's to mistakes.
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