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4761  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 10, 2015, 10:07:43 PM
So, let me guess, tptb is just another anti-Semitic. Who would've thunk that?

Zionists are anti-semitic. The Semitic peoples are those who resided in Palestine, Golan Heights, Jerusalem, etc before they were dispossessed of their land. The State of Israel by its very acts is anti-Semitic! Hahaha. Gotcha.

In fact, recent DNA testing shows that most of those who were already there, were the actual Jews and most people who have migrated there are not descended from Abraham.

http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/who-are-jews/

http://www.texemarrs.com/042013/jews_not_descendants_of_abraham.htm


Believing in the Jewish faith is not a sufficient justification for stealing the land of others who were already there. Being persecuted abroad for believing in the Jewish faith is not a sufficient justification for stealing the land of others who were already there.

The British fucked up the Middle East good under the concept of the League of Nations, another of Rockefeller's meddling.

How about we get some sanity into our thinking eh?


Edit: the Europeans stole a lot of Indian land in the American continent. However the difference is that by now the two have largely assimilated and intermarried.

The Jews in Israel have not done that, and this will be their downfall.

Even the Yugoslavian conflict was due to inadequate assimilation.

Multculturalism doesn't work unless the peoples intermarry.

Hey we white guys will fuck any color of vagina. But the religion thing is annoying. I couldn't have a relationship with any devoutly religious fanatic female.

When Jews live all over the world but if they refuse to intermarry with other religions/non-religions and cultures then no wonder they find themselves persecuted for not integrating into the societies they reside in. This is a natural outcome. I am not saying it is an ethical outcome, but it is a fact of life. That doesn't make it our responsibility to steal a homeland for them from others.
4762  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 10, 2015, 09:54:07 PM
This is one of the most batshit-crazy post I have seen on the forum. Entertaining for a minute but gets boring after a minute. You conspiracy theorizers need to get your heads examined.

9/11 was a batshit-crazy event. But the well established facts (did you watch the video I linked?) is that it was a pre-planned demolition job. We now know all the details (so much research has been completed by now). Watch the damn video!

Does that make us who factually document the event batshit-crazy? Or the ones who perpetuated it or those who deny it and thus promote it to happen again?

I say the last group is the most batshit insane and you appear to be in that group?
4763  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 10, 2015, 09:38:21 PM
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The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing.
Albert Einstein

BTW was he just a jew or zionist  Huh

Come on folks, do some research and lose your preconceived propaganda that has been planted in your brains by the ones who want to control your thoughts.


That does not mean that one cannot remain critical. The world is less simple than our brains demand as an answer.

Of course. We must question even my search for an answer.

Often the simplest and most plausible answers are correct, for as long as we haven't excluded some elephant in the room corner case.

Of course we have evil in war, ethnic genocides, boom & busts of mass delusions of crowds (aka socialism, government, and collectivism). This rules out it being as simple as one monolithic organized crime group driving all evil in the world, because evil is inherent in human civilization. But there is much good in humans civilization also. Typically humans need to be pushed and prodded to do extensive evil. So you look for who are the instigators and financiers of evil.

But on the pointed question of who is most likely to have done 9/11, would some ethnic group in the Balkans for example have to the motivation to do that and also the skills and covert experience? Not very plausible.

The Bush/Cheney and Zionist architects have been working together for a century on profiting from war and covert operations. For example the Bush brothers ran the security at the World Trade Center and the airports where the hijackings too place.

Are they totally aligned with the other elite such as Soros, Rockefeller, Larry Summers, etc?

I don't know.

I am just saying these covert agencies and the people who are involved with them are very, very dangerous.

In this Knowledge Age, we need transparency. And anonymity and protection for the publishers of information is an important feature we need for our internet.

What I am getting at there, is TECHNOLOGICAL END TO COVERT GOVERNMENTS by removing their ability to attack the publishers of information. That is where I am driving with this.

And with that all the truth will come out eventually. And so the bastards who really did it will end up dead or in prison not too long from now. Mark my word.

They better start running away now, because the human empowerment technology is turning against them.

So I am saying to all, lose your biases and open your mind to information.
4764  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 10, 2015, 09:19:23 PM
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The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing.
Albert Einstein

BTW was he just a jew or zionist  Huh

Get the taxonomy correct. There is a huge distinction between someone who has been hoodwinked into supporting zionism and the architects who implemented zionism.

I rather think we have some few of the Ashkenazi jews who have been into organized crime and criminal banking (aka the "banksters") for the 100s if not 1000s of years.

They appeared to have become aligned in such a way that incorporating Zionism became part of their strategy for global conquest.

Of course the Jews are just victims of this misassociation.

As well all those who support Zionism because of the suffering that these bastards have inflicted on society, are just victims of the propaganda.

The organized crime syndicates are into drugs, banking, covert operations.

Everyone knows the CIA was running the drugs in their airplanes. Just do some research on the Iran-Contra issue.

Why do you think investigative journalist Gary Webb "committed suicide"? You can probably also include the recent death of Michael C. Ruppert as well.

I have been digging for a long time. I've read extensively for example Catherine Austin Fitts (former undersecretary for HUD under Jack Kemp, former Wallstreet insider) and her computer model corroboration of evidence that Gary Webb was unmasking.

Come on folks, do some research and lose your preconceived propaganda that has been planted in your brains by the ones who want to control your thoughts.

Someone wrote to me that Ehud Olmert couldn't possibly be a central figure in the implementation of Zionism and 9/11 because he is being prosecuted. As if Bush and Clintons were never and will never be prosecuted.

Remember the Bible says the head of the Beast is wounded. Who says these organized criminal groups always escape prosecution.

Getting to the top echelon is difficult though, e.g. we know George Soros has done evil things but the likelihood of sending him to prison is remote.

Look what they accomplished with this 9/11 ordeal. They have managed to foist massively intrusive identification requirements on every thing we do. They have been able to justify massive spying programs and covert operations such as the National Security Letter Gag Order. Receive one of those, and you can't speak any more. Your constitutional rights were absolved.

P.S. Zionism is a corrupt concept. Jews have no right to steal land from those who have been occupying it for the past 100s of years. You don't just waltz in and create a country in the middle of an existing country or land that has an existing set of residents. So if you are aligned with this concept just because Jews were persecuted around the world, then you are falling prey to the elite's favorite methodology of manufacturing a crisis so they can provide a "solution". Are we always going to be stupid cows or will we realize that we are being played like puppets on strings. Wake up sheepeople.
4765  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 10, 2015, 09:03:29 PM
Revelations:

 I had a blind Chihuahua who used to catch wind of my Rottweiler Bianca every time she was in heat. Old Dusty (that was his name) would hump the shit out of her leg for hours. She'd get bored, stand up, and off he fell. He'd find her again and start all over, but he never could get it quite right. God bless him for trying.

And if the bastards who are perpetrating these crimes-against-humanity use the Bible as one of their guiding inspirations (or to help them manipulate those masses who do), it would behoove me to understand their guidebook.

You are so myopic and simple minded focused on hating the Bible that you lose information in the process as per the example above.

Did I potentially find the cure to my very perplexing illness by being closed minded?

Did I potentially find the solution of how to perfect crypto-currency and replace Bitcoin by being closed minded?

One day in the near future you will respect me.

Dedicated to the ones that question everything.

Exactly.
4766  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 10, 2015, 08:33:57 PM
Medical Totalitarianism

It is a crying shame that the clinical trials on this pathogen have not been done extensively because it could be a simple cure to so many chronic conditions (see list below) and the medical establishment would lose many profits. Being aware of this triple antibiotic + NAC therapy may be a simple way to cure yourself in the coming collapse of Western medical systems.

Also be aware that NAC has protective effects against all pathogens which may be critical in the coming pandemic as predicted by Armstrong's models.

Apparently chlamydia pneumoniae is implicated in a significant number of diseases that may just be autoimmune-like reactions to this chronic pathogen which is able to infect the macrophages and other key cells of the immune system.

http://www.cpnhelp.org/



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What makes Chlamydia Pneumoniae (Cpn) so troublesome

  • While it may start as a respiratory infection, Cpn can be carried to other parts of the body and infect many other tissues, including nerve tissue, the brain, muscles, the lining of blood vessels and even your immune cells (macrophages).
  • Standard single antibiotic courses (two weeks) only kill Cpn in one of its three life phases, leaving live forms of Cpn bacteria which are in other stages to renew infection.
  • Cpn contains at least two endotoxinsi (toxic chemicals) which cause tissue damage and inflammationi, chronic immune activation and toxic load in your body.
  • Cpn infects inside your cells and parasitically steals energy from your own body cells in order to replicate.
  • The only way to cure it is to take a combination of antibioticsi, to kill it in all of its life phases so nothing is left behind to re-infect.

http://www.cpnhelp.org/?q=simple

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Cpn Simple- The shortest explanation we could think of!

  • Cpn has been clearly proven to have persistence in the body despite “standard” antibiotic treatment (two weeks of a single antibiotic).
  • Cpn has been implicated in a wide variety of diseases (see bottom of this page).
  • Blood tests and cultures are not reliable indicators of whether Cpn is part of your disease.
  • If you have any of the diseases in which Cpn has been implicated, it may be worth trying an “empirical” (based on symptoms alone) combination antibiotic protocol (Link).
  • Most doctors are not familiar with this, and you will have to present a rational and evidence based case to them for prescription of the appropriate antibiotics through information such as on this site.

Is this right for you?
 
Four indicators can be used to help you determine if an empirical test of the full combination antibiotic protocol is useful for you. You should be on it for for a minimum of 6 months to a year. The first three suggest that you have Cpn and you should continue this treatment.

1. You experience distinct reactions to the antibiotics indicative of Cpn die-off (see Reactions to Treatment link).
2. You have improvement of disease symptoms.
3. You have noticeable halting of symptom progression.
4. Nothing at all and decide this isn’t for you.




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What diseases has it been implicated in?

  • Multiple sclerosis
  • Chronic fatigue
  • Asthma
  • Arthritis
  • Fibromyalgia
  • Chronic refractory sinusitis
  • Cardiac disease
  • Interstitial cystitis
  • Prostatitis
  • Crohn's disease
  • Inflammatory bowel disease
  • Alzheimer's disease

Additionally: chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, uveitis, optic neuritis, radiculitis, nerve deafness, transverse myelitis, sarcoid, myocarditis, pericarditis, culture-negative endocarditis, atheromatous arterial disease, aneurysm, giant-cell (temporal) arteritis, polyarteritis nodosa, Wegener's granuloma, primary sclerosing cholangitis, reactive arthritis, Reiter's syndrome, Behcet's disease, cutaneous vasculitides including pyoderma gangrenosa. Wheldon adds: "Conditions which may suggest the possibility of flare-ups of chronic Chlamydia pneumoniae infection deserving serological investigation include the following — a multiplicity being more strongly suggestive: recurrent sinusitis, recurrent chest infections, chronic fatigue (especially if following a respiratory infection), focal neurological deficits, myalgia, muscle fasciculation's, recurrent episodes of bronchospasm, unexplained pleuritic pain, angina, recurrent arthralgia, unexplained recurrent abdominal pain, unexplained menorrhagia, recurrent fistula-in-ano, recurrent cutaneous vasculitides, achalasia, intestinal dysmotility."

It is is even implicated in atrial fibrillation (along with h.pylori which is the bacteria that put me in hospital in 2012 with acute peptic ulcer):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16793213
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18163009
http://journals.lww.com/jcardiovascularmedicine/Citation/2009/01000/Helicobacter_pylori_and_atrial_fibrillation_.2.aspx


More evidence:

http://www.davidwheldon.co.uk/peer-review.html

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The evidence for a causal association between a potentially treatable Chlamydia pneumoniae infection and majority subsets of Multiple Sclerosis, as detailed on the first page, is very strong. It is far stronger than hypothesis. Why, then, is this evidence almost unknown within the medical establishment? MS is often a devastating illness which usually strikes during the most productive years. It is the commonest neurological illness in young adults. No present treatment is anywhere near satisfactory, and, as the disease becomes progressive, present-day medicine has little to offer.

The problem is one of collation. A multitude of scientific studies - some of great elegance - can be linked together to support the causal association very powerfully, but this information has not been brought together in a broad, comprehensive manner within a widely-read multidisciplinary medical journal. The reason for this delay is the process by which scientific papers are selected for publication.

Editors must be selective. Scientific studies vary in their quality. No editor would wish to publish worthless material. At the same time no editor can be expected to possess the expertise necessary to evaluate the material he receives. One of the editorial staff will read the manuscript. If it is obviously poor then it will be filed in the basement and a polite note of rejection will be sent to the author. If it passes preliminary scrutiny as being reasonable and worthwhile, copies will be sent to two or three referees who are considered knowledgeable in the subject. The referees will read the manuscript and submit a report. This is the peer-review system, and is generally considered to be the least bad way of selecting scientific work for publication. Its advantages are that it can pick up sloppy or improbable work; work which places hypotheses upon hypotheses, or work which does not stand up to analysis.

It has drawbacks, though. The biggest drawback is that it resists any change to the underlying Weltanschauung [1] or 'mindset' on which the subject rests. The peers are senior establishment figures; their reputations are built solidly on a thesis of ideas which they share with each other. Thus it is that any work which casts doubt on the validity of the prevailing ethos is likely to be treated very harshly. Its principles are likely to be pulled to pieces in an unfair way; its findings, even when clear, are made to sound doubtful, and the argumentation in the discussion made to sound improbable. None of this is (one hopes) conscious. (A few days ago I happened to bring up this subject on meeting a friend in the hospital; she immediately took a copy of the Guardian from under her arm and said, 'you might like to have a look at this.' It was an article by Cordelia Fine. It is indeed apposite. I've put a few quotes at the bottom of the page.)

In the case in point the 'peers' are dedicated to the theory of inflammatory autoimmunity as the primary flywheel of the disease. They have made an enormous investment into this: years of their lives, ongoing research projects, academic reputations, lucrative connections to pharmaceutical companies eager to profit by expensive agents such as monoclonal antibodies. No-one is going to fund a large trial of out-of-patent antibiotics and unpatentable supplements. The establishment wishes that any idea of infection being at the root of MS would go away. That is why, if you study the literature, you'll find that negative studies [2] are given equal weight with studies that detected Chl pneumoniae in the CSF, and grew the organism and found specific antibodies [3]. Another (again one hopes) unconscious method of down-rating evidence which counters the established view is to side-line those who have made the positive discoveries. 'I know that Chlamydia pneumoniae has been found in the CSF of people with MS,' said a world-respected MS neurologist recently, 'but those early findings have never been repeated.' He is stating a half-truth, but only a half-truth.


Those early findings have indeed been repeated. There are, in fact, many good, worldwide, confirmatory studies which have detected Chl pneumoniae in the CSF of persons with with MS by culture or specific gene detection. Here is a précis.

The preliminary work was carried out by workers at Vanderbilt University, Nashville, TN in the US. 27 patients with MS and 27 patients with other neurological disease were studied. Polymerase chain reaction assays demonstrated the presence of C pneumoniae MOMP gene in the CSF of 97% of MS patients versus 18% of patients with other neurological disease (OND) [3] The same workers isolated C pneumoniae from the CSF in 64% of MS patients and 11% of OND controls. 86% of MS patients had increased CSF antibodies to C pneumoniae elementary body antigens as shown by enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay absorbance values that were 3 SD greater than those seen in OND controls. The specificity of this antibody response was confirmed by western blot assays of the CSF, using elementary body antigens. Moreover, CSF isoelectric focusing followed by western blot assays revealed cationic antibodies against C pneumoniae. The authors are careful to say that this gives evidence for but does not prove and aetiological link.

In 2000 Layh-Schmitt and colleagues in Heidelberg, Germany, reported the presence of Chl pneumoniae in 5 of 10 patients with MS using PCR. In a further study they detected the organism in 2 of 20 patients with MS, 3 of 17 patients with possible/probable MS and 0 of 56 patients with other neurological disease (OND) [4].

In 2001 Ikejima and colleagues, in the USA, reported the presence of Chl pneumoniae genes in the CSF of 11 of 16 patients with MS. These workers used a commercial kit rather than an in-house method [5].

Also in 2001 Geiffers and colleagues in Lubeck, Germany, detected Chl pneumoniae DNA in the CSF of 12 of 58 patients with MS and 20 of 47 patients with OND. However, Chl pneumoniae DNA was not detected in the CSF of any of 67 neurologically healthy persons. These authors conclude that Chl pneumoniae is probably a highly neurotropic pathogen [6.]

In 2002 Hao and colleagues, in Japan, reported the presence of Chl pneumoniae in 9 of 28 patients with MS and in 2 patients with inflammatory disease in 15 patients with OND. Elevated titres of specific antibody was found in the CSF of 42 of 84 patients with MS and in 28% of patients with OND [7.] [] Interestingly these workers observed a higher rate of Chl pneumoniae gene transcription in the patients with MS; this suggests a more active bacterial metabolism, and may point to host factors playing a part in the disease [7.]

In 2003 Grimaldi and colleagues, in Italy, detected Chl pneumoniae gene-sequences in the CSF of 23 of 107 patients with MS and 2 of 77 patients with OND [8].

In 2003 another study from the Heidelberg group detected the chlamydia-specific ompA gene in the CSF of 50% of patients with MS and in 28.1% of 89 OND patients [9.] In a most interesting further study, these authors found chlamydial HSP60-mRNA in the CSF of 75% of patients with MS, indicating active bacterial activity: chlamydiae are known to upregulate HSP60. This has the effect of preventing host cell apoptosis.

In 2002 a conjoint study of Chlamydia pneumoniae gene-sequences in the CSF was undertaken by workers at Vanderbilt University Medical Centre and the University of South Florida. The two laboratories used different DNA extraction and PCR techniques. In definite MS patients the detection rates were 72% (VUMC) and 61% (USF); in probable monosymptomatic patients the detection rates were 41 and 54% respectively; in OND controls the signal was positive in 7% and 16% respectively [10].

This repeated confirmation by different centres - using different methodology and targets - leaves little room for doubt about the association of Chl pneumoniae with MS. We have recently reviewed the evidence in some detail [11.]

Those who have read the above compilation will note, in the PCR findings within the CSF of persons with MS, a wide range of results, ranging from 10% to 97% positive signal. What is the cause of this diversity? Three possibilities might be considered: differences in methodology; geographical differences in strains; very small organism numbers. A very clear account of PCR in the detection of bacterial gene-sequences in the CSF is given by Yamamoto, who brings clarity to a difficult subject [12.] One of the most problematic issues, this paper says, is that of organism numbers. For one thing, Chl pneumoniae, under chronic stress conditions, drastically curtails EB production. Extracellular EB nucleic acids and proteins are thus likely to be present in minute quantities within the CSF, and, furthermore, are likely to be swept away very rapidly. The CSF is often considered to be a slow-moving - even sluggish - stream; this is not the case. The body of fluid is exchanged some three times in a 24 hour period; the volume of the CSF-containing cavities is about 150ml and approximately 500ml of CSF is produced every day. The anatomy of the CSF circulatory pathway is such that there are no 'dead spaces'. EBs will be quickly removed. The determination of positivity or negativity may well lie at the edge of chance; any slight advantage of methodology would be critical. It is possible that EB release may be intermittent. It will be noted that the positive reports are from centres round the world; little is known about geographical variation in the external proteins of the EB, or whether there are functional strain-differences; some strains might, for instance, produce more EBs than others while in the persistent state. An elucidation of the possible events which may happen in the course of persistent infective states with this organism will present one of the greatest challenges in medical microbiology in this century.

The information is present, but is not as yet collated. This is the reason why, if you want to stand a chance of recovery from MS, you will have to trawl through the millions of pages of journals listed in PubMed, using appropriate search terms: and when you find the material you will have to edit it to remove the establishment bias. Or else find someone who has done this for you and who has put the information on the Internet.
4767  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 10, 2015, 11:58:58 AM
The ten horns (the Ten Kings) could be the 10 major nations of the world...

How will this list change after 2024 (and by 2032)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

My guess based on most economic growth shifting to Asia and USA+Mexico:

1. China
2. USA
3. Japan
4. India
5. South Korea
6. Russia
7. Australia
8. Canada
9. United Kingdom
10. ? (Germany, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia?)
4768  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 10, 2015, 11:18:25 AM
I've watched all the vids and I don't think they show that 9/11 is a Zionist israeli Mossad plot.

There is one video that unequivocally details that 9/11 was a pre-planned demolition job with very, very high probability of no other explanation being valid.

The next question is who is responsible for that operation. There is a video that details the connections of Zionists to all the key elements of the first video mentioned above. I do not know how you could possibly come to a conclusion that the Zionists are not disproportionately involved in that operation?

The next question is who has the discipline and skill to accomplish this and keep everyone from talking. That doesn't leave many choices of whom would be appropriate and close enough to the key actors such as Silverstein who is identified above. Thus Israel's Mossad in cahoots with some neo-cons (Bush, Cheney, etc) is with high probability responsible for 9/11. As I quoted in my prior post, even 16 of the brightest in the USA think tank also admit this is so.

The neo-cons and Israel's leadership were very, very likely responsible for 9/11. They had every incentive to do this, to try to keep the Americans and the world fighting for Zionism, multiculturalism, etc. They were pushing this chaos in the Middle East as far as they could in order to drive for the globalist control aims. Maximizing the severity of the chaos from 2016 to 2024 is central to their goals for bringing the world to its knees and also breaking down those societies which had the potential to resist their rule. They profit on war. They specialize on war and covert operations. Don't forget former POTUS Bush was a CIA director before he became President.


total Zionist conspiracy doesn't make sense when Schuer talks about an unstable Syria working against Israeli interests. Israel is surrounded by 5 Muslim countries; a reason for their inbuilt fears (played on by Bibi et al since the murder of Rabin & 'giving back' of Gaza). With Hezbollah to the north and unstable Egypt to the south the last thing they'd want post Arab Spring is a power vacuum in Syria (like Iraq).

You are confused because you refused to consider Rothschild, etc.. You close your mind thus you miss important points.

The Zionists elite don't give a fuck about the end o fState of Israel. It was a tool to an end, not the goal. They are going to sacrifice it (the wound on the head of the Beast) in order to get their world government. It was just a pawn on their chess board. They used it to corrupt the world as I had explained. You should go back to my original post and read it again more slowly.

Those elite are playing all sides off each other. Divide and conquer.

Further, entities like PNAC show that capture of resources plays a huge part in US Empire Building, and access to resources has enabled the massive growth seen in the US, its consumer driven society and its war machine. Access to resources & supporting dictators like the house of Saud are obviously considered necessary evils. And what happens when you 'get out'? You get Iraq where age old tribal tensions flare and the region is further destabilized and spreads to other areas.

You are too simplistic in your thinking. This is multi-dimensional chess board. Resources are not the only nor the main aim. There are times that resources are considered, but moreover what is considered are power in all facets and how to manipulate the nations of the world.

2) Israel has become what it previously suffered under: an aggressive brute that suppresses 'undesirables' in all ways. Apartheid, encroaching settlements, human rights abuses, an ingrained perception of suspicion towards Israeli Arabs and controlled by extreme politics.

Because it was created by Satanist elite who planned it that way. They created Hilter (again Prescot Bush financed Hitler's concentration camps and war effort through Union Bank out of the USA). They created the Holocaust. They created the Zionism.

Closing your eyes won't help you. Lose your biases.
4769  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 10, 2015, 10:46:31 AM
BitcoinForumator,

Thank you. That was excellent and I am confident you gained more interest in that video you linked up thread and including piquing my interest. I just don't know if I can get myself to struggle with listening to him with that heavy accent, but I probably will given your summary.

It is also important to settle the question if today's Russia leadership is ruled by zionists. He argues that's not the case...

This is the key point I have been thinking about too, because Antony Sutton researched how the Zionist bankers had sponsored the Bolshevik revolution and seemed to me they had infiltrated the elite in Russia. I have been told Larry Summers was over there after the fall of the USSR helping distribute the denationalized industries to the current oligarchy that run Russia.

What is his counter logic?

Note in the Kissinger video I linked below he explains how Russia is different than the other countries in the West. Very insightful. He also explains that China doesn't want to occupy territories, but rather influence them through trade. He says Asians think fixing a mess makes a worse mess. He said Westerns prefer occupation and fixing everyone's problems. This ties back into my past comments about how Westerners think man is in control and can fix everything. And Asians prefer to rent and follow the cycle of nature.

This wasn't happening even months ago, let alone years. The American Isis, Syrian debacle has revealed the plan so much that it's obvious to almost everyone.

So my point on your view that Europeans are totally in slumber is just your theory that is made from incomplete data.

But at what stage are they in the development of any action? You see by the time they are ready to act it will already be such a big mess that the hardcore neo-nazis might already be more popular.

And how are they going to balance their liberal leanings with the realization that they should be more conservative?

Americans have been working on preparing for decades, while the Europeans have been busy getting as drunk as possible on socialism and vacationing.

Where can I meet the mythical Europeans? I don't ever come across any of them. Where are they? Point me to some.




It's getting interesting, doesn't look like it's going to slow down now.



Will the west get sucked into an un-winnable war trying to fight off spot fires all over the world, while also being swamped/overrun and fucked sideways by the effects of socialism and civil wars.. ?

I think it's the rise and fall of islamic empires, I found it interesting how it is rising as the west declines 2016 - 2021

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/tag/islam



I think it's the rise and fall of islamic empires, I found it interesting how it is rising as the west declines 2016 - 2021

You caused me to realize that "empires" is the key word, and not economy. The (confidence in the) empire of Islam is increasing, not necessarily the economy of Islamic peoples or nations. The implication is it would rise with the War Cycle if not corresponding to an economic gain, because in this case increasing Islamic empire requires some conquering of the Western empire for the gain.


The Persian empire is rising?

Kissinger explains that Persia (Iran) has a rich ancient culture and had retained its own language and didn't adopt Arabic. He thinks it is impossible to stop Iran from having nuclear weapons and this will incentivize every significant nation in the Middle East will thus obtain them to remain at parity:

https://youtu.be/wooGL__-OvA?t=1825

Thus he and our think tanks think Israel will get overrun and cease to exist as follows...


http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/10/01/264485/no-more-israel-in-10-years-kissinger/

In 10 years, there will be no more Israel: Kissinger

The idea of Israel’s inexorable collapse is no longer a taboo as more top brass US officials are explicitly attesting to the fact, with prominent US diplomat Henry Kissinger saying, “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.” “Kissinger's statement is flat and unqualified. He is not saying that Israel is in danger, but could be saved if we just gave it additional trillions of dollars and smashed enough of its enemies with our military.… He is not offering a way out. He is simply stating a fact: In 2022, Israel will no longer exist,” political columnist Kevin Barrett wrote in an article published on Press TV website on Sunday. He also pointed to a study commissioned by the US Intelligence Community (IC), comprised of 16 US intelligence agencies, earlier this year, titled “Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East,” and pointed out that the content of the IC’s report corroborates Kissinger's contention. “The sixteen US intelligence agencies agree that Israel cannot withstand the coming pro-Palestinian juggernaut consisting of the Arab Spring, the Islamic Awakening, and the rise of the Islamic Republic of Iran,” the analyst added. The IC report contends that the US government no longer has the military and financial resources “to continue propping up Israel against the wishes of more than a billion of its neighbors” and suggests that “the US will have to follow its own national interests and pull the plug on Israel,” Barrett said. Considering the fact that the Jewish Kissinger has long been viewed as an ardent friend of Israel and that the majority of US officials, including the authors of the IC report, are influenced by pro-Israeli lobby, the emerging messages become more remarkable, the article added. The article argues that the emerging “complacency” among the US officials about Israel’s fate can be traced in the following reasons: ·   American politicians and political activists “are growing fed-up with Israeli intransigence and fanaticism.” ·   Americans feel “festering resentment over the Israel lobby's imperious domination of public discourse.” ·   “The American Jewish community is no longer united in support of Israel.” ·   It is becoming a common knowledge that Israel and its supporters carried out the 9/11 false-flag attacks. “In fact, the US is going broke and sacrificing thousands of lives in wars for Israel - wars that damage, rather than aid, US strategic interests,” the article said. “It will become ever-easier for American policymakers, following in the footsteps of Kissinger and the sixteen intelligence agencies, to recognize the obvious: Israel has reached the end of its shelf-life,” Barrett concluded. ASH/SS/AZ


The Bible may have spoken of this depending how one interprets it. Again I am not saying this is science, I am just looking at.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+13

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Revelation 13Common English Bible (CEB)

13 1 and I saw a beast coming up out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads.

3 One of its heads appeared to have been slain and killed, but its deadly wound was healed. So the whole earth was amazed and followed the beast.

The ten horns (the Ten Kings) could be the 10 major nations of the world, and the 7 heads could be the 7 major regions of the word (North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Middle East, Africa, Oceania).

This appears to be the period coming as the West falls and we have a multi-polar world with regions and a few strong nations. We will be moving towards a world government, but not all the way there.

Quote
The beast from the land

11 Then I saw another beast coming up from the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it was speaking like a dragon. 12 It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence. It also makes the earth and those who live in it worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. 13 It does great signs so that it even makes fire come down from heaven to earth in the presence of the people. 14 It deceives those who live on earth by the signs that it was allowed to do in the presence of the beast. It told those who live on earth to make an image for the beast who had been wounded by the sword and yet came to life again. 15 It was allowed to give breath to the beast’s image so that the beast’s image would even speak and cause anyone who didn’t worship the beast’s image to be put to death. 16 It forces everyone—the small and great, the rich and poor, the free and slaves—to have a mark put on their right hand or on their forehead. 17 It will not allow anyone to make a purchase or sell anything unless the person has the mark with the beast’s name or the number of its name. 18 This calls for wisdom. Let the one who understands calculate the beast’s number, for it’s a human being’s number. Its number is six hundred sixty-six.

This appears to be the coming world government. The wound on one of its head might be Israel in the region of the Middle East which is either removed or driven back to its 1968 borders by 2022.
4770  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 10, 2015, 10:26:39 AM
BitcoinForumator,

Thank you. That was excellent and I am confident you gained more interest in that video you linked up thread and including piquing my interest. I just don't know if I can get myself to struggle with listening to him with that heavy accent, but I probably will given your summary.

It is also important to settle the question if today's Russia leadership is ruled by zionists. He argues that's not the case...

This is the key point I have been thinking about too, because Antony Sutton researched how the Zionist bankers had sponsored the Bolshevik revolution and seemed to me they had infiltrated the elite in Russia. I have been told Larry Summers was over there after the fall of the USSR helping distribute the denationalized industries to the current oligarchy that run Russia.

What is his counter logic?

Note in the Kissinger video I linked below he explains how Russia is different than the other countries in the West. Very insightful. He also explains that China doesn't want to occupy territories, but rather influence them through trade. He says Asians think fixing a mess makes a worse mess. He said Westerns prefer occupation and fixing everyone's problems. This ties back into my past comments about how Westerners think man is in control and can fix everything. And Asians prefer to rent and follow the cycle of nature.

This wasn't happening even months ago, let alone years. The American Isis, Syrian debacle has revealed the plan so much that it's obvious to almost everyone.

So my point on your view that Europeans are totally in slumber is just your theory that is made from incomplete data.

But at what stage are they in the development of any action? You see by the time they are ready to act it will already be such a big mess that the hardcore neo-nazis might already be more popular.

And how are they going to balance their liberal leanings with the realization that they should be more conservative?

Americans have been working on preparing for decades, while the Europeans have been busy getting as drunk as possible on socialism and vacationing.

Where can I meet the mythical Europeans? I don't ever come across any of them. Where are they? Point me to some.




It's getting interesting, doesn't look like it's going to slow down now.



Will the west get sucked into an un-winnable war trying to fight off spot fires all over the world, while also being swamped/overrun and fucked sideways by the effects of socialism and civil wars.. ?

I think it's the rise and fall of islamic empires, I found it interesting how it is rising as the west declines 2016 - 2021

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/tag/islam



I think it's the rise and fall of islamic empires, I found it interesting how it is rising as the west declines 2016 - 2021

You caused me to realize that "empires" is the key word, and not economy. The (confidence in the) empire of Islam is increasing, not necessarily the economy of Islamic peoples or nations. The implication is it would rise with the War Cycle if not corresponding to an economic gain, because in this case increasing Islamic empire requires some conquering of the Western empire for the gain.


The Persian empire is rising?

Kissinger explains that Persia (Iran) has a rich ancient culture and had retained its own language and didn't adopt Arabic. He thinks it is impossible to stop Iran from having nuclear weapons and this will incentivize every significant nation in the Middle East will thus obtain them to remain at parity:

https://youtu.be/wooGL__-OvA?t=1825

Thus he and our think tanks think Israel will get overrun and cease to exist as follows...


http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/10/01/264485/no-more-israel-in-10-years-kissinger/

In 10 years, there will be no more Israel: Kissinger

The idea of Israel’s inexorable collapse is no longer a taboo as more top brass US officials are explicitly attesting to the fact, with prominent US diplomat Henry Kissinger saying, “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.” “Kissinger's statement is flat and unqualified. He is not saying that Israel is in danger, but could be saved if we just gave it additional trillions of dollars and smashed enough of its enemies with our military.… He is not offering a way out. He is simply stating a fact: In 2022, Israel will no longer exist,” political columnist Kevin Barrett wrote in an article published on Press TV website on Sunday. He also pointed to a study commissioned by the US Intelligence Community (IC), comprised of 16 US intelligence agencies, earlier this year, titled “Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East,” and pointed out that the content of the IC’s report corroborates Kissinger's contention. “The sixteen US intelligence agencies agree that Israel cannot withstand the coming pro-Palestinian juggernaut consisting of the Arab Spring, the Islamic Awakening, and the rise of the Islamic Republic of Iran,” the analyst added. The IC report contends that the US government no longer has the military and financial resources “to continue propping up Israel against the wishes of more than a billion of its neighbors” and suggests that “the US will have to follow its own national interests and pull the plug on Israel,” Barrett said. Considering the fact that the Jewish Kissinger has long been viewed as an ardent friend of Israel and that the majority of US officials, including the authors of the IC report, are influenced by pro-Israeli lobby, the emerging messages become more remarkable, the article added. The article argues that the emerging “complacency” among the US officials about Israel’s fate can be traced in the following reasons: ·   American politicians and political activists “are growing fed-up with Israeli intransigence and fanaticism.” ·   Americans feel “festering resentment over the Israel lobby's imperious domination of public discourse.” ·   “The American Jewish community is no longer united in support of Israel.” ·   It is becoming a common knowledge that Israel and its supporters carried out the 9/11 false-flag attacks. “In fact, the US is going broke and sacrificing thousands of lives in wars for Israel - wars that damage, rather than aid, US strategic interests,” the article said. “It will become ever-easier for American policymakers, following in the footsteps of Kissinger and the sixteen intelligence agencies, to recognize the obvious: Israel has reached the end of its shelf-life,” Barrett concluded. ASH/SS/AZ


The Bible may have spoken of this depending how one interprets it. Again I am not saying this is science, I am just looking at.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+13

Quote
Revelation 13Common English Bible (CEB)

13 1 and I saw a beast coming up out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads.

3 One of its heads appeared to have been slain and killed, but its deadly wound was healed. So the whole earth was amazed and followed the beast.

The ten horns (the Ten Kings) could be the 10 major nations of the world, and the 7 heads could be the 7 major regions of the word (North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Middle East, Africa, Oceania).

This appears to be the period coming as the West falls and we have a multi-polar world with regions and a few strong nations. We will be moving towards a world government, but not all the way there.

Quote
The beast from the land

11 Then I saw another beast coming up from the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it was speaking like a dragon. 12 It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence. It also makes the earth and those who live in it worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. 13 It does great signs so that it even makes fire come down from heaven to earth in the presence of the people. 14 It deceives those who live on earth by the signs that it was allowed to do in the presence of the beast. It told those who live on earth to make an image for the beast who had been wounded by the sword and yet came to life again. 15 It was allowed to give breath to the beast’s image so that the beast’s image would even speak and cause anyone who didn’t worship the beast’s image to be put to death. 16 It forces everyone—the small and great, the rich and poor, the free and slaves—to have a mark put on their right hand or on their forehead. 17 It will not allow anyone to make a purchase or sell anything unless the person has the mark with the beast’s name or the number of its name. 18 This calls for wisdom. Let the one who understands calculate the beast’s number, for it’s a human being’s number. Its number is six hundred sixty-six.

This appears to be the coming world government. The wound on one of its head might be Israel in the region of the Middle East which is either removed or driven back to its 1968 borders by 2022.
4771  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 10, 2015, 04:40:49 AM
Most people a;ready know, but it's equivalent to speaking Chinese to a dog.

Enlighten me because I don't yet have scientific level evidence clarifying to me the answer in every facet unequivocally. Maybe they think they know but they are deluded? Tell me the answer and make sure you have very good sources to cite if I ask for them.
4772  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 10, 2015, 04:38:40 AM
not for rants about Zionism and 9/11.

The significance of which w.r.t. ECM is not important to you because? Can we thoroughly interpret, predict, and comprehend what it is going on in the Middle east and thus the migrant crisis and Europe's economy without understanding the Zionist and 9/11 connections?

Because you are offended by?

Come on tell us your true hidden biases. It is very deceitful to hide your personal politics while slandering the other person.


Edit:I am getting feedback in private message that those who are criticizing my introduction of information on Zionism and 9/11, have not watched the videos I linked to. They have not seen the astounding level of complicity revealed in the videos. They assume they are omniscient and thus they criticize me without checking my sources first. Why not watch the videos guys before you lash out at me?
4773  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 10, 2015, 01:31:23 AM
Please to all, help us figure out what is going on in the world.

I am trying to focus in on who are they key trouble makers who are stomping on the free market causing such horrific outcomes for mankind.

We need to understand who, so we can understand what we can do technologically (as well as political action, etc).

The videos I presented seemed to be quite damning unquivocal proof that the Zionist Israel Mossad are responsible for 9/11 (and other false flags and driving the world towards conflict and a world government). But I am not yet fully satisfied as to whether I have the complete conclusion.

Martin Armstrong was fucked over by these interest groups. If anyone has any hard evidence against him, please present it. Please don't take the word of the corrupt system as proof of anything! Any one who is pandering to the corrupt system is also corrupt by implication. Smooth get yourself out of that pronto or face your fate.
4774  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 09, 2015, 11:50:55 PM

I find fault immediately in this article because it emphasizes cash as a liquidity issue. (Rather the reason the Zionists want to attack cash is so they can control us, not because of liquidity!) Armstrong explained very well this week that the distinction between the function of cash and the function of a debt note (held by the lender or purchaser of a bond) has disappeared in our modern financial system (at least for sovereign debt which qualifies as reserve asset capital, but note under the Basel rounds they are gradually changing what is Tier 1, 2, and 3 capital):

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/37740

Quote from: Armstrong
This idea that Quantitative Easing is printing money is very pre-1971 thinking and is a throwback to Bretton Woods. Such an assumption focuses on the differentiation between debt and money or cash. Pre-1971, you could not borrow against government debt so there was a clear difference between debt and money. The theory that it was less inflationary to borrow than print made sense only when there was a real difference between debt and cash or money.

Today, debt and cash are the same. If you trade futures, you deposit cash and to earn some interest you buy TBills, which are deposited and used as collateral. The distinction between debt and cash has vanished. This means that Quantitative Easing does NOT actually stimulate the economy. The giant assumption was that the cash would be spent within the system. But the banks complained and the Fed created the EXCESS RESERVE window which has about $2.5 trillion on which the Fed pays 0.25% interest. They only swapped bonds for the right to deposit cash at 0.25%, so where was the stimulus? Nothing was stimulated and there was no inflation since there was no actual increase in private spending.

These theories are very primitive to say the least. Nobody looks at them closely or follows the money to see if they are doing anything what the theory pretends should happen. The ECB bought 25% of the bonds and inflation still turned negative. They have stated that they will increase that to 33%. They never review their actions when something fails to work. All government ever does is move further in the same direction because government employees will NEVER admit a mistake.

This is akin to physicians in medieval times who assumed that bleeding a person would heal them because an illness was seen as if it were a poison in the bloodstream. If the patient died, they never assumed the death to be the result of taking too much blood. Instead, they would state that they did not bleed the patient soon enough and that caused their death.

Welcome to the plague of thinking among humankind.
4775  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 09, 2015, 11:29:28 PM
Generative Essence of What We Face Now
....snip
Btw, by making this post I may become a target of covert action. It is quite possible this is the last post I may be allowed to make if I continue on this line, because I am explaining in a very crystal clear way that very few if any have. Please make sure you spread this information far and wide. Email Armstrong this post!!!!!!!!!!!

OK thats it - I learned lots from you posts and was entertained at times but this is the end- you are in need of help.
(ignore)

Please explain the factual reason for this slander. I sincerely do not understand what basis you have for making this statement. Slandering without explanation is the epitome of deceit.

Are you attacking the facts of the videos I linked to? Or are you attacking my paragraph at the end where I am uncertain as to the danger that one is in if they write anything against Zionism? Are you aligning to the liberal sympathy for Zionism or the conservative alliance against Islam? What is your motivation for attacking my post and me personally?

Please this childish sand throwing has to stop because it is entirely useless for the readers of the forum. Please be more intellectual and data oriented with your posts gentlemen.


Smooth, please get a grip on reality about the validity of pleas and official records when you are dealing with the aims of the Zionist terrorists (apparently even Martin Armstrong doesn't realize who he was up against, as he only thinks they are the "NY Club"):


If you have any hard evidence, please do compile your proof of Armstrong's guilt. I would welcome it. Otherwise, you are just blowing potential sampling error out your arse.

I have a problem with your continued trolling of people and altcoins in those cases where it is your spin on the subjective. Objective truths is all I want to read about. I did appreciate Gmaxell's forensic work on VanillaCoin's plagarism of Bitcoin source without required attribution. But your ad nauseum on it was adding what? Ditto here on Armstrong. We here discuss his model and whether it proves true in reality as we go forward. These slanderous statements about his criminal culpability without any evideence without any public hearings is just fucking trolling noise.

I believe you did add data points and provide a very good factual summary on the premine of Dash (DarkCoin). I commended you on that work. But I then advised you to leave it at that. Don't berate people with accusations. Present the evidence and then let the market decide if it wants to focus on it or not.
4776  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 09, 2015, 11:15:58 PM
Chronic Fatigue hit me severely last night which manifested as the sensation of a heavy wet towel over my skull, really bad headache, abdominal pain, and feeling like total shit and fatigue. It is a feeling that is very hard to describe.

I took 500mg Metronidazole and this seemed to relieve the CFS because I was able to sleep soundly for about 5 hours instead of the usual insomnia. I woke up feeling ok but not totally great, took doxycycline and azithromycin and now I am at my other location where Bitmessage is and I am feeling quesy and light-headed and sort of in between CFS and okay. I am at least getting differing effects from the antibiotics, so it appears to be doing something. Will try to run here at this rolling hills location and see what I feel after jogging.

I can't yet speculate if this triple antibiotic treatment with a disulfide (haven't purchased the n-acetyl cysteine = NAC yet but planning to this morning) is working. The NAC is for attacking the dormant phase of the bacterium which is the phase it normally shifts into and how it normally escapes eradication when you hit it with just antibiotics. I am able to tolerate all the antibiotics whereas, those with severe die-off normally can't tolerate a ramp up to full dosages immediately, so this may mean I don't have the pathogen. Sad Yet I am getting some effects and I haven't yet taken the NAC. Note the metronidazole seems to have the most powerful effects, so perhaps this is pointing to gut dysbiosys as the core problem.

"I have over the past week been doing triple antibiotic therapy with a difulside, because in one clinical study 97% of M.S. patients had genetic marker for Chlamydophila pneumoniae in their spinal fluid. A Vanderbilt patent on this therapy for eradicating the 3 life phases of this bacteria which doesn't normally die off with long-term monotherapy. This bacterium acts more similar to a virus in that in one phase it is inside of a host cell."

Thanks for the feedback on what I should do.

I am  in a deep state of learning right now  and I am trying to figure out what role Kissinger plays. If anyone has any succinct information on his role, please inform me asap.



All people who communicate with me in Bitmessage should turn on their their client now.
4777  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 09, 2015, 11:09:45 PM
I told you to watch the whole thing.

Read my prior post. I don't have time for rambling, boring nonsense where the speaker is making silly words for the first 14 minutes. I guarantee you others readers didn't watch it either. Find better quality material. I easily find good videos in the USA. Also that guy was in Malaysia, not Europe. Please get to the point in one post. I don't want to clutter this thread with more replies. Damn it you've buried my important post on the prior page of this thread already.

Again your tiny viewing didn't reveal the whole scope of it. If you don't watch it that's exactly the problem. Yes he has his own style but to say he doesn't get to the juicy meaty points is not correct. Sorry it doesn't fit your style lol. All I can assure you he has given all the major info you have given here lately. He goes into banking also, into Bible, into political affairs, into history, just like yourself.

Your writings are like a giant depository of the things you find out. Others also see the same stuff.

The guy was in Malaysia but people from Europe are watching him. I know because that's how I got it and also saw many comments from Europeans. He has an audience around the world.

I'm out, so no more "clutter"...

And also get of your high-horse.

It is not about high-horse. Please all of you stop the ego childishness. I simply asked you to compile your information. You didn't even provide a summary of what is in the video. You are completely out of touch with reality if you think most readers will watch a 1.5 hour video from a guy who doesn't even speak English in an accent that an American can understand (I had to read the subtitles) who makes silly statements in the opening minutes that do not sound very high IQ. In my case, I am extremely lacking of time, and I focus my time where I think I can get the maximum return on my investment of time.

Also compile your statistics and summarize for us on European awakening (just some listening isn't action). Come on please do your work for us, as I do. I am leading my example. Follow my example.

My attitude comes across as "high-horse" to you , because I don't have time for noise and explaining everything. What I just wrote above you should be able to deduce if you are already mature. I shouldn't need to write it. I am not intentionally trying to be insensitive or condescending. I am merely suggesting, "do this to get an audience" (as in trying to help you be more effective) so you won't waste your effort posting what will be perceived as noise.


Edit: perhaps you may not appreciate that I can typically read a page of information in about 60 seconds or so (unless is is written in a style that is difficult for me or the subjective matter is very deep). Videos are typically much too slow for me in terms of the rate of details I can comprehend. I try to choose videos which either have a very high data rate or at least which explain something in a very careful way that gets all the details correct. Speakers who waffle around in their presentation do not meet my minimum requirements. Just write a summary for us of his key points.
4778  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 09, 2015, 02:25:47 PM
I told you to watch the whole thing.

Read my prior post. I don't have time for rambling, boring nonsense where the speaker is making silly words for the first 14 minutes. I guarantee you others readers didn't watch it either. Find better quality material. I easily find good videos in the USA. Also that guy was in Malaysia, not Europe. Please get to the point in one post. I don't want to clutter this thread with more replies. Damn it you've buried my important post on the prior page of this thread already.
4779  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 09, 2015, 02:21:12 PM
The other day I gave you one link (did you watch it?) that will prove this story is out there. You have YouTube, search for this for yourself and find numbers. On the right side this particular youtube video you have links to similar topics. Go from there and this world will open up to you.

Nonsense talking and talking. I gave up on the video after 14 minutes of rambling nonsense. The videos I link to get to the point within 1 minute. Please respect the viewers (readers) attention span and busy schedule.
4780  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 09, 2015, 02:16:23 PM
If you don't follow those discussions that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You're just not a part of it. And there is a lot of such stuff on YouTube. Lots and lots, trust me. You're not the first person to stumble upon this. In many cases this is just a logical progression of the stuff that has been happening at least for the last few decades.

Please document it both statistically (numbers) and qualitatively (memes they are presenting, actions they are proposing). Your word is not sufficient. Cite sources. There are estimates of 300 million privately owned weapons in the USA and roughly 50% of the population owns a gun.


For example if all they do is talk and not armed and diluted in strength, or if they talk about petitioning the Zionist UN or EU, then it is pointless blather (which is a known difference between Europeans and Americans with the former talking and the latter doing).
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