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4761  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: Is pacing on a first floor apartment annoying and what can I replace it with? on: January 30, 2020, 07:17:25 PM
Yeah @carlton, passive aggressive notes are the only accepted forms of communication with people you share a block of flats with...

Wouldn't want to create a bad first impression or grow to dislike each other (actually a bad first impression has worked out very well for me in the past but it still means you have to deal with the few hours of awkwardness).

@jetty, I meant more so my back can lift a 20 kilo backpack without throwing me off balance.
4762  Economy / Lending / Re: Free lightning tests on: January 30, 2020, 04:11:09 PM
Haven't bumped this in a while, got a free evening if anyone wants a test I should be avaliable for about 7 hours!

4763  Economy / Lending / Re: Lightning Network Lenders' (and borrowers) discussion thread. on: January 30, 2020, 04:02:58 PM
Hmmmm yeah they don't look like a good choice. Honestly custodial wallets for the lightning network seem a bad idea unless you won't be online for 2 weeks. Other than that, you should have enough time to publish a dispute or sign a new commitment transaction.

Lightning network keys must stay online permenantly so it's much less secure than a regular custodian like coinbase.
4764  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Transfer ownership of a Pubkey to a new owner. on: January 30, 2020, 09:09:29 AM
I think it would be very restrictive doing it that way but that is somewhat the basis of a smart contract (loosely). Instead of owning and signing the funds you own the contract for the funds (where one applies).
4765  Economy / Economics / Re: On market capitalization (again) on: January 29, 2020, 02:28:27 PM
I think if you're looking at order books, you're actually looking at a different stat altogether and to that I would say: just use volume?

Volume is obviously much better of an indicator and you can use vpvr or the real volume and supplement them with rsi or the stochastic to get a better estimate...

Even looking at active coins doesn't let you see the market cap as people could have yet to be discovered keys or could just be sat on funds they mined waiting for them to hit a certain figure...
4766  Economy / Economics / Re: If you could invest your cryptocurrencies in the environment would you? on: January 29, 2020, 11:11:17 AM
Yeah I'd say its pretty sensitive to a lot.

Why should we invest in the environment, we don't own the world and need to get away from that?
The people destroying the environment (the energy companies) ought to be the ones to try to "fix" the environment.

There's a weird acceptance nowadays that humans are weak and we have to keep everything stable, actually controlling climate levels is potentially medalling more than we should. If we caused the rise in greenhouse gas emissions, then it'll take a while to get restabalise the levels and a huge reduction could destabilise something else in turn.

There's also oftentimes a huge disconnect between people saying they want to fix the planet and those that actually do. Extinction rebellion decided to do a protest and spray water from a fire truck (or something). The ones complaining about the environment are the ones that won't get of their arse and walk to the next city when they can drive there in 15 minutes...

4767  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: University Research: Queries about building a trading platform on: January 29, 2020, 10:32:45 AM
Yeah don't make a bot native to just one exchange site released by the same person, it'll likely cause a lot of problems unless you ensure arbitrage but then you'd have to store a lot of funds on other exchanges.
4768  Other / Meta / Re: Copying my [D-8] debate threads onto local boards. on: January 29, 2020, 09:50:08 AM
You could try (if you wanted to) to make an exampler thread on the Phillipines or Indian board. I'm guessing that since the boards are active and have English speakers, some of those members will stay predomenantly in there and not come out of it, so it might be a good way to access them.

On with the translation portioin, for Latin based languages (germanic&romance&indonesian) you may be able to get away with google translate and getting someone on that local board who's active just to check it over and host a topic for it (I certainly don't think it would require raw translation but a good point to start from would be giving people help in order to translate the work and deciding which posts are popular/worthy enough to be put onto the new thread).
4769  Economy / Economics / Re: Are 401ks / ROTH IRA Safe From Bailouts? on: January 28, 2020, 08:12:02 PM
I'm not sure how your stuff works over there, but it probably depends on who you're with..

It's helpful to read the terms and conditions of a site, for example: in my country, vanguard state that you are the owner of the assets you hold with them so it doesn't become their property and can't be deemed as such in legal terms.

If banks are bailed out, you're going to do a lot better holding stocks than you are holding cash (normally). Everything takes a hit in a crisis but most stuff bounces back. If you're trying to live of a rothira or a 401k you'll see your stock price change quite a bit and your entire net worth, dividends may change but ceos are discouraged from doing that as it makes the company look unstable so unless it's really necessary they won't.

So if the Stock itself poops the bed and loses 90% of its value , then you are losing 90% of your value that you hold in that stock due to holding the 401K or ROTH IRA? Do you get to choose your stock or asset that you want your 401K or ROTH IRA to hold or it isn't up to you to choose?

Depends on who you go with. I think most would rather you buy lumps of etfs or mutual funds , (S&P500, DJ, FTSE, EUROPEAN MARKETS, BRICS). Some let you buy even more diversified managed funds.

They normally won't give you something that can fall 90% otherwise therell probably be other huge issues to deal with in the world.

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I wouldn't trust them not to take my money realistically...They've robbed the citizens during the period of the gold standard where they took the gold of the citizens.

Only reasonable way to get around this would be crypto.
There was a Greek guy on here a few years back saying he lost 25% of everything as Greece started taxing certain bank accounts.
4770  Economy / Economics / Re: Are 401ks / ROTH IRA Safe From Bailouts? on: January 28, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
I'm not sure how your stuff works over there, but it probably depends on who you're with..

It's helpful to read the terms and conditions of a site, for example: in my country, vanguard state that you are the owner of the assets you hold with them so it doesn't become their property and can't be deemed as such in legal terms.

If banks are bailed out, you're going to do a lot better holding stocks than you are holding cash (normally). Everything takes a hit in a crisis but most stuff bounces back. If you're trying to live of a rothira or a 401k you'll see your stock price change quite a bit and your entire net worth, dividends may change but ceos are discouraged from doing that as it makes the company look unstable so unless it's really necessary they won't.
4771  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum still safe on Windows 7 OS, after Microsoft support ends? on: January 28, 2020, 02:18:10 PM
An ingenious statement that certainly deserves to be remembered. Do you really think that a system that has lost official support is better than one that has one? If it is true that Microsoft is not testing files before making them public, it's a really idiotic move.
They left the vulnerability wannacry utilised just from government sponsorhip... Nevermind that they're bieng paid to make an OS.

I'd suggest getting an AV if you're ever going to use windows and this should mitigate a lot of the problems the OS has (as long as you're not stupid and keep your firewall activated if you don't know what you're doing).

How antivirus software or firewall "should mitigate a lot of the problems" with any OS? They are not designed to patch holes in the operating system. And how is stupid to keep firewall ON all time, my is always activated and I have zero problems.
Yeah, I was a little ambigious and don't think a comman should be there but am not sure on the best way to add the pause.
As in
If you're not stupid and don't try to change your firewall without knowing what you're doing.
I've known too many people that try to change their company's firewall and do something they've read up on just to introduce another stupid vulnerability elsewhere that makes them much easier to be taken down... And this doesn't include people that have taken their own networks down because of their own stupidity in trying to forward traffic to a different server that just gets DDoS'd from the inside.
4772  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Logs show listening on port 8333 but I cannot connect on: January 28, 2020, 01:49:41 PM

But a netstat and any other check of listening ports does not show port 8333 open. There are no firewalls set up (running on a Linux server) yet so nothing is blocking it, and I'm just trying to connect from the local host.


You checked the router/modem settings? That always catched me out.
4773  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum still safe on Windows 7 OS, after Microsoft support ends? on: January 28, 2020, 01:43:55 PM
Windows 7 no longer being updated might make it a bit more secure.

A lot of the time windows 10 "patches" aren't tested well (it's as if they don't have a testing department anymore) and cause many systems to face a large amount of issues when they update the OS (every Windows update does the same).

Provided people keep using Windows 7, stuff should be compatible and it was one of the best microsoft operating systems.

I'd suggest getting an AV if you're ever going to use windows and this should mitigate a lot of the problems the OS has (as long as you're not stupid and keep your firewall activated if you don't know what you're doing).



I think windows 9 is quite a lot like windows 7 on the inside (obviously haven't decompiled it but I have used it and it works quite well) - it was an OS for microcontrollers and signage systems. Any critical vulnerabilities will probably be patched until windows 9 stops being supported.



If you want total security and can't afford a hardware wallet, buy two kingston usb drives (the good ones) and put your wallet on there with ubuntu/debian installed on both.


Honestly if you've been relying on Windows' security this long you really ought to consider if you should be connected to the internet at all on the computer with crypto on it. You're the sort of person that would go: "well it had the federal mark on it it looked legit".
4774  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2000 Posts on: January 27, 2020, 09:36:50 PM
I was much happier seeing 1999 🤣.

Congrats on the 2000 though!
4775  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Extra note on: January 27, 2020, 09:34:28 PM
I thought I'd just add that it says at the bottom of the paper they're expecting a new draft. I'll be happy to change the above in compliance with that (or add new days).

That paper wasn't yet everything and we still have a lot to grow in this space.
4776  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Day 13: malleability soft fork on: January 27, 2020, 09:10:02 PM
    • Transaction malleability means that transactions can be mutated and added to the blockchain without extensions to the protocol to ensure for sequence number validation and setting expiry times. Without the being resolved it opens up the possibility for an attack vector for a hostage of funds unless the user agrees to split the funds with them.
            ▪ This would require a soft fork for miner software in order to fix how they handle transactions, core nodes wouldn’t be affected unless they wanted to change to match a more accurate mempool but that might be unnecessary.
            ▪ The 20 byte SIGHASH
                    ◦ The software should include an additional input script of OP_CHECKSIG or a new address type altogether for the additional data to be stored as: OP_DUP OP_HASH160 <20 byte hash> OP_EQUALVERIFY.
                    ◦ All existing clients will return true for this command if the appropriate redeemScript of the P2SH transaction is given.
                    ◦ SIGHASHNOINPUT makes it impossible for an attacker to invalidate an entire transaction tree by publishing an old transaction. This means the input script of the transaction doesn’t need a valid UTXOID, so that even though the output being spent may be invalid, a new output may be filled in the transaction instead (one that is valid).
            ▪ By solving malleability, both parties can spend transactions without knowing the outputs of the previous transaction and are also able to invalidate old transactions.
            ▪ Under the current paradigm, when opening a channel you have to commit funds before making the first Commitment Transaction which means your funds have to be committed and the other party must give you access to funds otherwise they’ll be stuck until they do. It wouldn’t even be possible to use an output tx hash that they gave you as it still relies on both your funding transactions to return the same output and they could lie as to what theirs was in order to stop you from spending it.
4777  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: Is pacing on a first floor apartment annoying and what can I replace it with? on: January 26, 2020, 11:06:56 PM
What type of pacing  ? or your just your leg when on your desktop? OR are you running standstill ?


Normally either jogging on the spot or pacing round through the rooms.

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Is it because of nervousness or to exercise?


Sometimes exercise and sometimes just to take a break from doing regular work and get yourself moving...

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You could look for "rubber tile flooring for gym" that has a better shock and sound absorption than carpet.


Hmm ill have a look thanks. I was thinking a step bench but they seemed quite a bit more expensive and might not work.
4778  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: Is pacing on a first floor apartment annoying and what can I replace it with? on: January 26, 2020, 09:55:13 PM
Hmmm I have thought of getting weights in the past but I don't know whether his point is to get something almost too heavy to lift and try lifting it).

I've heard of h.i.i.t and I definitely fall into the justaboutaerobic category with pacing so there's that at least, not increasing stress hormones too much.

Could do with gaining about half a foot if growth hormone can help with that 🤣.
4779  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Day 12: Scalability and additional use cases on: January 26, 2020, 09:33:07 PM
Scalability issues
 •  If every user wanted to make only 3 transactions a year, the blockchain could only handle around 35 million users at 500 bytes a tx (2 in at 140-200 bytes and 2 out at 40 bytes and).
 •  If we need to accomodate for this then a hard fork would be required meaning all previous nodes will have to update to maintain their wallets compatiblity and ability to send transactions
 •  Miner code will also have to be updated and nodes and miners must decide on their consensus rules so that all are compatible (i.e a miner might try to not recognise blocks higher than 1MB in size) - to get around this issue a soft-cap can be added whereby a certain limit is imposed onto miners but they don't have to fully respect it in order to get their reward and get the block accepted. This would also cut down on the amount of hard forks that would be needed.
 •  For HTLC revocations and channel closures, a high fee could be involved meaning that miners are more likely to accept and process the transaction sooner. The non-cooperative closures can then be included above the soft cap but still below some sort of hard cap imposed by nodes.
These strategies would therefore make it hard or almost impossible for an attacker to gain control of funds unless they spend a lot to disrupt the mempool (in which the funds will be lost and they might not even succeed). Also since HTLCs and Channels are generally recommended to be done with smaller amounts, a channel owner should find it easier to absorb the loss and normally don't open channels with random people if they have a high amount of funds (or they can segregate that amount for only connecting with trusted parties).

Extra uses of the lightning network
 • Instant transactions: on the lightning network with a cooperative party, transactions can be done within seconds.
 • Exchange arbitrage: if a large market swing occurs, people can quickly move their funds from one exchange to another and demand a higher price for their cryptocurrency without having to wait longer for a confirmation - bank transfers to coinbase can take 15 minutes or less from some countries.
 • Micropayments - most transaction son the bitcoin blockhain need a fee of at least 128 sats. If the price does well this could become a higher and higher amount to spend each time.
 • It offers smart contracts and escrow opportunities without compromising the security of bitcoin's main chain.
 • Hops on the network can be done between different coin chains. If Alice has 0.1BTC and there is no direct route to Bob to pay him, But chris and david both have Litecoin Channels open then the similar amount of funds can be transferred between them in the transaction and allow for alice and bob to still send funds (Disclaimer: I have no idea if litecoin is compatible I just picked my favourite to shill Grin).
4780  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Lending using BTC as a collateral on a multisig address on: January 26, 2020, 04:11:36 PM
- How to create the three keypairs and give the private keys of the multisig addresses to three different Escrow agents in such a way that the private keys are not revealed to anyone (even the creator)?
The escrow agent, Alice and Bob would probably have a key each which they can determine on their own.
It's possible to get them to sign a piece of data to prove they own that private key and then reveal the public keys but such a step would be unnecessary.

- After Bob performs the transaction from his wallet to the multisig address wait for 6 confirmations before lending him $8,000.
If neccessary then yes

- Reveal operation's details (when and where) only to people involved.
What? You mean for if there are only two people. I think it would currently impossible to do that unless there's a proof for the blockchain without haviing both parties trust each other. A hostage situation whereby bob doesn't repay but tells alice she can get half her funds back could be odne fairly easily.

- What's best cold storage method with pros and cons? (i.e. HW wallets: if the period T is relatively long, new firmware may be released to patch vulnerabilities. An update process needs to be defined)
Firmware updates will do nothing. Most hardware wallets are open source or are compatible with clients such as electrum.
The nmemonic phrase is also compatible with electrum with a small amount of tweaking.

- Transfer 1,5 BTC to either Alice or Bob according to agreement outcomes. Is this probably the least risky step in the list?
The bit that's missing is probably the fact that the fiat transfer will likely have to go through the escrow agent.
There would be obvious issues with doing a cash in hand transfer too - unless it's done in well secured public premises.
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