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4761  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 LOTTERY 🎁18 BILLIONTH BETS PROMOTION🎁 on: November 11, 2017, 11:10:34 PM
Grab
Just one question. As you say admin is best friend when you lose, so now answer me: Tell me any fact when that man wasn't best friend for anyone who won? Even see vip and legendary members, this man sends them bitcoins as a gift sometimes, why so much hate from you?

Baryom
If it's not secret or special surprise, will we see new games on bitsler? I remember you told me that there are some ideas.
Also if you add sounds like one member said, will be good idea.
4762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is the future of crypto, bitcoin is not. on: November 09, 2017, 11:55:46 PM
Peoplesay ethereum is future while they have hard forks and everytime fix a lot of issues and etc.... Don't compare it to bitcoin and what it did, a revolutionary step in world which ether can't to do ever, so how can it be future? Bitcojn is concidered as an ideal currency for privacy and safety, why darknets don't use ether? Because it's not something they can trust, that really makes sense.
4763  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: ATMs in Europe are spreading at a very high rate! on: November 09, 2017, 11:37:56 PM
Sadly there is no such bitcoin ATM in my country but as someone who uses babk's onise services to exchange money, for me it's comfortable that I can exchange them on local or on any atm worldwide, all thing that bank does is that they automatically convert bitcoin in the currency you are willing to withdraw.
Also I have heared that their fees are very high, finally not so big deal to be fair but good for someone who has only bitcoin and wants to escape.
4764  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How I became poor through Bitcoin and Altacoin on: November 09, 2017, 11:27:34 PM
One reason of your poority is that many people here posts that it's very easy to trade with bitcoin and you can easily get much money but that is joke of course, if everyone gets profit from trading, then who loses?
Learning on mistake is good but not so good on 10 bitcoin. Why weren't reading much about segwit and etc things? When you are in crypto related job, you have to know it's past and present too, topics here could help you about segwit.
Now you can't bring back lost money, can't suggest anything but work hard in real life, internet isn't only way of escape, get another loan to fill this one and then fill that one with working.
4765  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: US Bank that is crypto-friendly? on: November 09, 2017, 10:58:28 PM
My local bank put my account under review because I exchanged 200 ETH into fiat from Coinbase and transferred the USD to my account. I hear PNG, Bank of America, and a few others are doing the same to account holders.

Can anyone recommend a US bank that is crypto-friendly?
If bank lets you to exchange crypro, it's already crypto-friendly. Remember that everything depends on value of money. I bet you will never have problem if you exchange 500$ weekly but so much ether in one time, it causes some doubts. (In my situation it's like: What is the source of money, why so much money, is it attemp of money laundering and etc silly ones). Send them what they want, every crypro-friendly bank you are looking for would do the same.
4766  Economy / Securities / Re: Do you invest in moneypot bankroll again? on: November 09, 2017, 10:36:57 PM
These guys look like very smart and expert in cheating investors and that's why investors can't catch them even after losing all their bankroll investment and they are coming up again with some updates.

Do you still want to invest again?

My personal feeling is better not to invest in moneypot and find some other casino bankrolls who is running honestly.

interesting thread and question. may I ask why you did not put it in the gambling section? and why dont you post in their (very poor ) new thread?

I agree with you that no one should invest in Moneypot until they publish the proof of solvency and that the Bank Roll is still existing!

not to forget their promises they need to fulfill


Didn't know if they are so bad as you guys say, btw I thought in past year that they could make important mark on gambling with their wallet, seems I was wrong. (And if I remember correctly money pot is newly sold yes?
On another hand when we talk about investing money in gambling websites, I think great option would be crypto-games, I know 1 man who invested here and he doesn't seems upset with this decision.
I will prefer doing everythinf on your own if you have so much money to invest for solid profit.
4767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do any ICOs refund your money? on: November 09, 2017, 09:03:49 PM
I want to invest in an ICO yet want to invest in something that can refund me in case I need to pull out the money for an emergency. Know any companies that honor that?
Depends on how trustworthy are that ICO's staff and if it is escrowed. Fo example once ico there was an ico which turned in scam but it was escrowed by yahoo, lauda and minerjones if I remember it correctly, so they refund investors. Once there was similar situation where ico just failed, maybe it was moneypot? Can't remeber but they refund money on their own.
4768  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: November 09, 2017, 03:17:16 PM
We were up and now still experiencing some minor problems Sad its really independent of us reasons, one of the servers we rely on has trouble in western Europe.
Looks like site is still experiencing some down time, I am trying to access site from asian country and it is just loading despite my high speed internet.

And after trying to connect for few minutes I am getting following error;
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Error reference number: 504
Cloudflare Location: Singapore
Didn't try to visit FJ today but now I just checked and can access it without problems. I can only see that error when I try to enter website with mobile but after refresh m.fortunejack.com loads without problems, it needs 2 try.
On another hand it works well as for now.
Sorry for sone lazyness to check and I'll ask here if it's not problem: do you have again 2x wager for withdraw? And can I play now poker here? (Can't check now) If not, when will it be?
4769  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Does Bitcoin work for online shopping? on: November 09, 2017, 02:38:50 PM
When you buy something on eBay or Amazon, you pay the seller, he ships the product and upload a tracking number.
If you haven't received the item, you can call eBay or Amazon and, basically, what happens is that if they have a tracking number that shows that the item has been delivered, then it is ok, otherwise eBay or Amazon reverses the transaction and you get your money back.
Is that possible with bitcoin? What if I buy a boat online for 2 bitcoins and I never receive it? Is bitcoin able to solve this problem?

Thanks
It's not as problematic as they think, I bet they want to make popular amaxon pay, paypal, not bitcoin. Bitcoin is bad idea for refunding but there is a way to solve it, we need something like bitpay where we will identify documents and get similar wallet of paypal, where major currency will be bitcoin and transactions will be like it's on xapo, with no fees for it's users. In this way, refunding will be comfortable and instant.
And the reason why it's great way is that some shops don't accept interbational cards and I have to request my friend(s) in usa to buy things for me. So bitcoin will be fix of this problem. I can still write so much about it..
4770  Economy / Securities / Re: I have access to electricity with 0 cost, need someone to invest in a farm on: November 09, 2017, 01:48:56 PM
hi guys, I have electricity with zero cost and building where we can make a farm (building needs to be reorganized).  I'm new around this topic but researched a lot past 2 days and finally got conclusion that's mining is only profitable with very low or 0 cost electricity so it's nice opportunity  Grin Grin. If someone is interested please let me know. I'm thinking about investment under 50k from the beginning and if everything goes well then we go big  Cool Cool

I'll appreciate if you tell me any other useful places to post all about this

P.S Country : Georgia.  (bitfury invested 100 mln here for building megafarm  Shocked Shocked Shocked)
Things aren't like that my dear man. I and mettalmag (one user here) are from georgia, mettalmag is seriously in mining and believe me with relationships it would be easily done and there wouldn't be need of paying electricity fees.
I think I know where you live and don't try that because it's not legal. Imagine then Bitfury would buy a place in where you live and mine for free, maybe you can buy 1 antminer and mine but DON'T DO THIS FOR YOUR SAFETY.
On another hand you know what to do..

Answered, it seems not legal and Op just want to test whether there is someone so fool to give his money. Fortunately, no one want to. Seems like mining industry in Georgia could be done with low cost and even free electricity, it's a good thing for people who lives in there. Although no one willing to invest, you should try to get loan from some friends or family to buy antminer, but do it legally and don't try to get a loan from the bank.
It could be done with low cost, not with free electricity. Here are some places where people have free electricity and there is a reason for that, also mining with only 1 antminer can be considered safe too but farm? No man, you will get a huge strike from goverment because this means you use electricity for comercial things + you hide it + you don't pay goverment it's fees = illegal action.
Forget wonders, be reals and don't think that you are the only smart person who found this way, there was already thought about that free electricity for 100x time by more serious people.
4771  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's make Bitcoin's Price Higher on: November 08, 2017, 11:56:04 PM
As supply and demand determines the price of bitcoin, we all know how to make its value higher! Buy more bitcoins and tell everyone about the amazing bitcoin system and that they should tell their friends about it. The same is applicable for altcoins but with an unlike higher possible winning percentage as their prices are unlike lower than bitcoin.  Wink
Right.The more investors and users of bitcoin,the higher the value it goes.So we should make bitcoin more famous by  having introduced it to our family and friends.In this way,bitcoin will be spread out all over the world and more and more people will get curious and eventually get involved with it.Bitcoin may sounds complicated as what most newbies say,but later on when they come to understand more of its potentials,then they start loving it.
Bitcoin is very popular, I mean almost everyone has heared about it but why don't they try to google and learn more and discover such a wonderful forum? Was I silly when I only first heared about bitcoin and started to read much inforation about it? I think it was the smartedt decision in my life because it improved my life a lot. People don't want to find what's really good and where is the hope of something good. If anyone wants, will find, we already did our best because we achieved so big price and make community strong.
4772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people still play dice? on: November 08, 2017, 11:26:21 PM
The people I know keeps on playing dice because they always have fun whenever they play dice and their friends are also there. Others wants to try their luck over and over again hoping that they will win the jackpot or bounties.
Why do this almost 2 and half year thread been bumped again?

Going back on topic, dice is still popular even upto these present days i dont know whats the actual reason but people do love it on the way it is easy to play and win some amounts but the same as being said above this is also a way on where you would able to lose up money on an instant or a short period of time.
However I haven't seen this thread, also good to discuss about it. I just hate the situation when someone loses and says: Why do you play? I lose it and it's bad. They are looking for profit by gambling, this means they don't have any idea about math. What does gambing means? Let's translate, game = something that you can play, did you enjoy playing some games with friends when you were child? Now you grow and don't do same, so for adults it's likely casino is more popular than child games. So when you play dice you have to enjoy it and get good feeling from it. Play with small amount of money which won't affect your monthly budget and get good feelings from it. For me it's fun to play with small money, I try to make strategies, bet low and play for half an hour with 0.001 bitcoin and if I lose that, don't care much because it's not something that can affect my budget.
4773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy on Freebitco.in and Bitsler on: November 08, 2017, 10:54:40 PM
To be fair I usually see high rollers on bitsler and follow them (to save their profiles). I check their accounts sometimes when I am online and they play too. Usually they bet much with risky win, for example 0.05 bitcoin on 2.4x seems they have so much money to repeat it 15 times and usually they win but it's risky too. Also some people bet for example 0.007 with 10x bet and etc, high rollers usually do like that as far as I have seen.
4774  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin vs Ethereum after 5 years? on: November 08, 2017, 09:20:31 PM
Very unlogical question when you see what happens these months, especially this last one year. People were wondering if bitcoin could to reach 1000$ again but as we see it's a more than 7000$ and today it's high was 7,879$. So if bitcoin could to rise so quickly, is it impossible to fall so quickly? Rise is the hardest part but fall is the easiest one. If bitcoin did, ether has chanse too, also look that ether is second coin on coinmarketcup. No one knows what crazy thing will happen but of course mostly we have hope of bitcoin.
4775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASIC vs GPU on: November 08, 2017, 08:03:43 PM
It's not a correct answer and I vet you heared a lot of different answers. For someone asic is great because he/she sees more potential in only bitcoin mining, for other altcoin mining is like a jurney and they enjoy it.
I prefer asic but in this situation I would choose GPU because you don't depend on one coin, you can mine many altcoin and if you want you can turn for example from ether to dash and etc.
4776  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin proves hard to kill in China on: November 08, 2017, 07:36:07 PM
It's not so hard and I believe china said some words because to really know how much power do they have. They will never kill/destroy bitcoin and crypto in their country. Imagine it's like destryoing new and improved economy, innovation and all good staff, even crazy won't do this and especially china which always wanted to play important role in crypto world.
4777  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 LOTTERY 🎁18 BILLIONTH BETS PROMOTION🎁 on: November 08, 2017, 06:42:41 PM
However due to my busy days I wasn't able to take part in 18 billionth bets promotion, even forgot about it. I wasn't expecting so great surprise for winner who made bet in doge, great Baryom, and after that someone comes and says: bitsler didn't let me to withdraw 0.001btc earned by playing faucet whole life and they are bad......
Keep progress, I hope that bitsler will add games like poker, slots and etc. If you become bookmaker too, it will be huge sensation in bitcoin gambling because we know such a trustworthy website is hard to find.
4778  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Lost 25 bitcoins from bit blender on: November 08, 2017, 05:39:34 PM
Why did you use this mixer? That would be my first question.

Why didn't you send the coins in small batches?

You should have used Chipmixer.
Just tell me one reason to avoid bitblender and use chipmixer. Chipmixer is very new, they are good, I don't say bad about that but how you act for signature campaign, that's terrible. Bitblender and cryptomixer are the only mixers for me to trust more than others. They are old and trusted. So don't do shit for sig ok? Your post even makes bad reputation for chipmixer because it seems they want to say bad about their opponents without reasons, so think about it too.
4779  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genesis mining - new btc contracts on: November 07, 2017, 11:08:03 PM
Hey guys,
anyone knows if Genesis mining will offer new bitcoin contracts? Or is there any credible alternative for cloud mining you would suggest?


Don't know but even if they offer, are you going to purchase that? Don't do that man or you will lose your bitcoin while you have hope of profit. They pay you at first but then payment decreases, decreases and however it dissapears and reason is high difficulty + contract can't cover it's electricity fees. So don't worths, better to buy miner and mine yourself, you will know what you do and can avoid thinking about scams and etc.
There are many cloud minings, see my previous posts if you aren't busy (I post about it somewhere).
4780  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrencies and its political nature. on: November 07, 2017, 10:16:28 PM
The  nature of cryptocurrencies is very political because no single government that can control them. Unlike all other forms of wealth that can be expropriated from the individual. Also people are coming to understand  that cryptocurrencies is a better form of money because they are governed by code alone, which  makes the contract digital sacrosanct

Its happened because of its decentralization features it has, no wonder why the government in the entire world had no power to control it. And that's is the beauty of crypto currency and Bitcoin.
Just curious, how can you say that goverment has no control and can't to have while china's one word affects price immediately with huge percent change. So don't think that everything is like in dreams, no man. But beauty of crypto and especially of bitcoin is that you can have offline wallet in just flash drive, send it as much as you want without limitations and feel secure at the same time because no one can block your money.
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