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4761  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: July 31, 2023, 05:54:06 PM

Have not play this one since , but maybe I will consider looking into it as there might be a luck waiting for me because the time I enjoyed sportsbetting , I almost forgot Slots and other favorite game from the past.


For me too, sports betting looks far more interesting to me however I guess sometimes the jackpot hits usually come in the slot or other gambling games. Mostly it depends on one's mood and what one is willing to play or bet at a given time.


Sports betting is more interesting because you yourself make an analysis to bet on and the average gambler who likes sports because they have a love or passion for clubs and players.
So far, almost all gamblers are definitely fond of sports betting, considering that gamblers also have a sense of satisfaction with the predictions made or the club and players are proud when they win.

When talking about jackpots, we immediately focus on casino games such as slots, dice or roulette and anyone who bets money on these games definitely wants a big jackpot, it's just that to get the jackpot, gamblers need luck, not skills like winning sports bets.
I love sports, especially football, and that drives me to bet on it. It's very different when I watch a match with a bet and without a bet. When I'm not betting, there's not as much tension as when I'm betting, and I'm sure many people feel the same way.
The atmosphere created when betting is incredible, especially if it's a match that determines whether or not I'm going to win my multi-bet.

Regarding JP, of course football betting will be more able to see how much we win before the match is over (if we win), unlike other games, yes there is a maximum win in some players, but below that alone can be said to be Jp, and the amount cannot be ascertained.
4762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gender in Gambling [differences between Women and Men in Gambling] on: July 31, 2023, 05:36:58 PM
Living alone and don't have a family is one-factor women begin to gamble. The women, as I know are even more addicted than men. I've met women in Pachinko (Japan) always playing on the same machine at the same time. She even came early than other men players and looks unconcerned toward people. In this case, I have results if a Woman is more dangerous in gambling, If she has a family, I am pretty sure she will ignore it and don't care if lost the money family.

Maybe the case will be different in each country, or each individual. In the case of the story you are telling, it seems I can interpret that the woman felt lonely, had no friends, and so on, so she chose to find entertainment for herself by gambling. however, what happens in our country, not "Japan" is mostly due to association. it is very close that social interaction influences a person's lifestyle, both women and men.

I see many women who like to play gambling, but mostly play online slots. simply put, slot games are very easy to play without having to have high knowledge and insight like other gambling that involves skill. in this discussion I will not involve from a good or bad perspective, but more on female gamblers. in the digital era like today, we are no strangers to technology, the internet. This need has become part of our daily lives.
Now, women don't only think about appearance, passion, cosmetics, and financial management issues. women nowadays, too, are involved in gambling. and I, have witnessed this femonema. now gambling is no longer a gender issue, even though men still dominate it.
It's very easy to access gambling sites now, and also what you said is true that some players can be said to be very easy without having any knowledge of the game, we only need to press the spin button and the game will run, especially in slot games.
Some countries and neighborhoods will indeed have different situations, there are neighborhoods that will have a lot of women involved in it, and there may even be none at all.
Even in my country, I see some influencers promoting gambling sites, and you can say when they do that then at least they have played, although in this case they will get money from the promotion they do.
4763  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 31, 2023, 05:20:13 PM
Arsenal are going to be one of the new teams around here after a long break. I'm curious about their performance especially. Because they had a really amazing season in the English Premier League. Maybe they missed a big chance to become even the champions but they still had an incredible run. Now Arteta will be expected to have the same performance with the team in the Champions League as well. However this is technically a much more difficult task for him of course.

Because they are a really young team and the new team leader is going to be Odegaard after Xhaka's departure. I wonder how being a very young team will affect their consistency especially.

Arteta showed good game for his squad when facing a friendly match with Barcelona. they managed to win 5-3. I'm sure Arteta has no problems with his squad. but to compete in Europe's highest competition. indeed Arteta has to prepare everything. it will be different from the teams in the Premier League.
Arteta has shown his quality last season, and he will not lose anything to Arsenal this season. Arteta will look at how Arsenal shows a better quality of play in the Champions League. strong teams will definitely consider Arsenal.
They already have a strong foundation even though they may have young players, but with what they showed last season, then I can say they have done what they should do. I'm going to talk about mentality here, last season they were in the Europa League and many of us had them as big favorites to win, but unfortunately they got knocked out early. There is a difference, yes most likely it has to do with their mentality. Arteta is a former player, he should know very well what he should do if his team is having problems on the field, be it in terms of play or mentality. The Champions League will have a lot more pressure than what they have in the Europa League.
4764  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: July 31, 2023, 05:01:08 PM
Every casino always has a good marketing team, so don't be surprised if the success of the casino comes from their marketing team which can finally make them famous and big every year, besides that, if you look at each casino, of course it might offer different promotions every year, and of course seeing from the many requests of its users so that it can be easier for casinos to provide the right and true promotions that users want.

All casinos will definitely provide promotions for all their users and even that will continue because of bonus competition on this forum, so far Duelbits is still a trusted site on this forum too, so we'd better wait and see what they will do at the end year for the next promotion. there is no harm in waiting for information from them in this thread.
Without marketing, the rest are not really that much of a different situation if you ask me, doesn't really feel like it would be something crazy to do. I know that it is going to take some time and all, but most casinos are just some software at the bare bottom, we can all have one, it is really nothing that difficult to build.

What takes time is the marketing department, because if all of us can have a casino built in a day or two, even if a week, then what makes these casinos succeed? Well, that part is the marketing one, and you can't just start one day and be good next day, it takes time, dedication, effort, and also a chance to grow as well. That's what we are going to end up doing if it is possible and profit from it.
True. If there are no marketing whatsoever. New casino will have the higher chance to fail givem that gamblers will only play on an established casino as they have the reputation to pay and people will not risk to something new unless they can bet something from it which we are calling promotions. Imagine that even trusted and reputated casino are still doing aggressive marketing because they know that the casino industry is steep and without doing any promotion can easily make them irrelevant.
Regarding this, we can actually take an example from a product or whatever it is, they do promotions and are packaged in a very good way, so that many enthusiasts come, as well as casinos, they do that to make them known and also attract many new users to play there. Even they have a special team to do that, the costs they spend will not be nominal. But when they succeed in becoming a casino that has many visitors, then what they have spent at the beginning is nothing to what they make when they have become big.
4765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: July 31, 2023, 04:46:44 PM
The Chinese also spent a lot of money on the transfer, but they didn't manage to attract so much attention. I think Ronaldo is a very big influence at this point. Because he transferred to the Saudi Professional League, many footballers refer to him. If the Chinese League had made this kind of transfer at that time, they could have had a bigger impact.

Last year there was only Ronaldo in the Saudi Professional League. This season there are also star players like Benzema, Riyad Mahrez, Allan Saint-Maximin, Roberto Firmino and Edouard Mendy. Let's see what kind of league awaits us.
That's right Ronaldo is the most influential football player to date with Lionel Messi. His presence in the SPL made the league boosted and received good ratings on the international stage. It is possible that a few more players will go into the SPL and add to the list you have mentioned.

If you look at the list of players who are rumored to be going to the SPL, there are lots of names on the list. Marco Verratti is a player who is being hotly discussed about joining Al Hilal.

Source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/saudi-professional-league/geruechte/wettbewerb/SA1
The movements made by Arab League Clubs are indeed very surprising, especially not only one club that does that but there are several clubs that make large transfers of players from Europe and also the prices are relatively high compared to their market prices. Of course it will make the name of the League even bigger, it is proven by the many requests for broadcasting rights to broadcast Arab League matches, not only this season, but already from last season after Cristiano Ronaldo joined Al Nassr. Money talks here, they spend money to get money.
4766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Healthy mindset to save earnings from gambling on: July 31, 2023, 02:20:18 PM
Having a rich mindset is different from having the mindset of getting rich from gambling, if you are having the mindset to get rich, then you will be able to diversify your win from gambling and invest in other aspects, you will be able to control your gambling, you will know when to stop gambling and after winning you will have plans for what to do with the money.


Well it's supposed to be like that and it's a wrong mindset if someone assumes that they're going to be able to become a rich man from gambling, it's beyond me. How can someone make a consistent income from gambling, this is a question that only the bookie himself seems to be able to answer. It is the right choice to use the money won in gambling and then use it again for something else that has a clearer profit growth such as the investment you mentioned. But the problem is, not many of them (gamblers) are able to control themselves when they win, most of them will return to gambling using that money and obviously defeat will be waiting for them there.

If you are greedy in gambling, don’t be surprise that you won’t be able to achieve anything, because you will always lose the amount you have won, you will never be satisfied with the amount you have won, and you will always want to keep on gambling. If you are a gambler, it’s better you are satisfied with the little amount you have made from gambling, but if you keep on thinking the amount is too small, then you might end up losing everything again.


Greed is a natural thing that everyone has, especially for gamblers, it is very difficult to control greed because gambling moves under their subconscious. It cannot be said that they have won if they have not gotten the money in real form, because most of the amount will be lost again in gambling. This cycle will always happen to all gamblers if they overdo it. Reducing the amount in the bet looks better to minimize losses.
4767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: July 31, 2023, 01:35:36 PM
I think it is actually a good idea for Bayern Munich to let go of Sadio Mané. First of all, he does not want to be in the team. And secondly, they will be able to use the money that they get by selling him to bring in other players. And I believe those players are going to be better for the club instead of keeping Sadio Mané. Simultaneously, it is worth noting that Sadio Mané stands to gain a lucrative salary if he opts for the Saudi league. So if he wants to go, I don’t think there is any reason for Bayern Munich to stop him.
Sadio Mane has been told by the club management that he will not be in the team's plans for next season and probably for the next few seasons, so it would be a good choice if Bayern Munich decide to sell him. His style of play is different from what Tuchel expects and he has not been able to create good chemistry with some of the other players. We know that Bayern Munich are now involved in the hunt for Harry Kane, but they don't have enough money to meet the price set by Tottenham, selling Sadio Mane would be a good way out for them, to get extra money. Saudi Arabia is a good option to meet Mane's wage demands and perhaps Al Nassr is the right club for him there. It would certainly be very beneficial if Sadio Mane is willing to join an Arab club, besides the high salary he will also get a lot of things there.  I will be waiting for Bayern Munich to re-establish an agreement with Tottenham regarding Kane.
4768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 31, 2023, 12:24:07 PM
There are about 2 weeks left for all clubs to prepare before their first match. Paris Saint Germain have always occupied a prime spot in this title race, although with their current situation it hasn't stopped them from moving from their rightful place.
The question is for other clubs, there is always the inconsistency looming over the clubs that will be the competitors of Paris Saint Germain. Like last season for example, they could have become champions taking advantage of Paris Siant Germain's instability, but they couldn't because they slipped up many times.

At this moment PSG still doesn't look promising because maybe, the situation and condition of the team is not entirely good. Although indeed, PSG already has a new coach who has good quality and also, Mbappe is still in the PSG squad. But it seems that Enrique's ability to make PSG consistent also doesn't look promising if I consider the results they got in this pre-season game. So yes, I personally think that because Ligue 1 is a tough competition, it seems that PSG will also find it difficult to get consistently good results next season. Therefore, it seems that there will be other clubs who might be able to take advantage of this situation to be at the top of the standings next season.

PSG is always going to be at the top. Because there are simply no other teams which can actually compete against PSG. At least not in the Ligue 1. And so it honestly does not make sense to expect some other club to outperform PSG. I know that in the upcoming season, there is a chance because a lot of players are actually leaving PSG and the club is also not in a very stable state. but I still do not think that other clubs will be able to take the league title away from PSG. The truth is, PSG's precarious state holds little significance. The crux of the matter lies in the insufficiency of the other clubs. Whenever there is a situation where someone else can actually beat PSG, for some reason that club becomes inconsistent, and PSG takes advantage of that.
Money is an advantage that other teams don't have, and it greatly impacts their ability to have even squad depth. I'm not saying that by having a lot of money they will be able to have even squad depth, it depends on how they use it. But at least they will have a stronger main squad.
There are still many ways to do that, it doesn't always have to be with money, but over the years we see them, the fact that they are still at the same level, from there I start to think that maybe money is something big that will be able to change it.
4769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever felt remorse after gambling? on: July 31, 2023, 12:08:32 PM
Well it won't affect anything at all, I mean gambling is just about luck, the size of the money we bet can't increase our chances of winning. But there are also some of them who do it with a large amount of bets, because as you said above that if our bet is large then if we are lucky our victory will also be very large, and vice versa if we lose then we will experience a large loss according to the amount we bet. As I have said before that it is impossible if someone does not feel regret when they lose. Borrowing is not a good option to make a choice, I will go back to saying that there is no better step except to stop, starting with increasing rest time, reducing association with those who are still actively gambling, adding other activities to daily life. I've tried this and it's a great way to stay away from gambling.

Generally, it is advised that start with small and gradually increase the amount. Straight away increasing the amount is more risky as you can lose everything in one go. Of course, when you place a big bet and choose the right multiplier the chance of winning a big amount is present. I haven't been lucky enough at the moment to get to that point. There are times when your intuition would want to go with the risk but your mind won't agree. In such a situation when do not place a big bet and if you win you will feel remorse. I am sure everyone might have gone through the same experience and everyone would have felt the same way.
Periodically increasing the amount of money at stake there are times when you have to look at each round first, because the few times I tried this there were successful some were not, yes it will not be far from luck, because sometimes at low stakes every round is good and when we increase the amount of the bet the result is the opposite, and when I return to the amount of the bet at the beginning the round is good again.
I've wondered if the bet amount affects the result, but if that's true then I've also felt the same way, that is, every time I increase the bet amount the spin gets better. It's like a puzzle, but I put it down to my different luck. Lol
4770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 31, 2023, 11:53:29 AM
Yes they have a lot of players and have also brought in some good names too. Imo Chelsea will make the UCL. I’m so sure of this but they won’t win the league. They don’t have European distractions. Pochettino have given them a sense of play and they’re bonding and finding the rhythm this preseason. They will make the CL, people are underestimating what being totally out of Europe brings in term of squad's fitness. It's three teams that one can boldly say are ahead of them.
In the next season, Chelsea cannot be underestimated with their new squad, but Chelsea just needs to focus better on a position that can bring them into the UCL next season. Because I'm also not sure that Chelsea can win the Premier League next season, but if it's just fighting for the top four in the standings, I think it can be very possible for Chelsea. With a new coach at Chelsea, they will have a different spirit next season, especially in terms of trying to be in a better position.

For the Premier League next season I am not at all sure that Chelsea will be able to become champions at the end of the season. I see Chelsea has now shown changes and progress little by little, but to shift the position of Manchester City is too heavy with the current conditions, occupying the top five positions is indeed very possible for them. Pochettino is now very serious about his work, some new ammunition has been brought in and I see now Pochettino has managed to form chemistry with his players so it is not too difficult to form cohesiveness on the pitch. Chelsea will rise soon but not for this season, but for the next few seasons when Pochettino has managed to perfect all sides in his squad.
I believe that the next championship will still go to Manchester city because there seems to be the only club that is most prepared to win the championship because they still maintained the players that aided their success in the last season and haven't sold any of them and even man city is still looking to sign new players into the club,  although Chelsea seems to be making some progress in the area of getting the best hands on deck but then due to what the club have suffered in the past it will take them a long time to break the record anytime soon.

Clubs that we can look out for in this season to attempt lifting the trophy is Real Madrid and that is if the club can find a fitting replacement for the space Benzema left in the club.
What you said is very basic and very reasonable when you say that Mamchester City will be able to defend their title. The squad as a whole hasn't really changed significantly, only a few players have left and been replaced with players who I think have the same quality or even better than the previous players. The key is in a coach, Guardiola is the one who made their podasi and surely he already understands very well what must be improved from the foundation he has created, thus it is not surprising that many make them favorites again. by not forgetting the bad possibilities that befall them, as happened to Liverpool for example.
4771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 31, 2023, 11:39:09 AM
Right now I'm not going to go so far as to talk about whether or not they'll be able to perform at their best in the Champions League, because I have to first see how they shape up in the actual competition. Indeed now we have seen their performances in pre-season matches, but for me it is not a real measure for anyone whether they will perform well or not. This applies to all clubs that will participate in the Champions League later, not just the 2 clubs being discussed here.
I wouldn't say no to today's predictions either, because surely we're going to have different things to say.
Well, after all, the Champions League will also start some time in the future, so there is still enough time so that every club that has qualified can prepare and put on a good playing performance.
Pre-season matches are used to test the game of each player which when the domestic or Champions League starts they can adapt and play optimally.
We also cannot use pre-season matches to assess the strength of a football club considering that on average clubs only field their new players or young players.

La Liga matches kick off on August 12 and there are only about 12 days left to open.
For the opening will feature Almeria vs Rayo.
Yes, the matches they have in this pre-season are to test their new players, and measure whether they fit the coach's criteria or not. But losing or winning is not a measure for me, because for some coaches may not apply their best strategy or in short they don't care whether they will win or lose the match, the most important thing is that they can see how far their squad has developed, and whether they think it is enough or not.
Indeed, for some people, supporters for example, they want to see their team win even if it's just a pre-season match, but they must also understand.
4772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 31, 2023, 11:24:54 AM
Now that they have been suspended from European competition, they will have more time to focus on Serie A. It's not an advantage, but they have to make the best of their problems. Yes they performed well as a team, but not as management which we can't help but say that they are more responsible for what Juventus have experienced this season.
In fact, this will still be an advantage for Juventus, as a less busy schedule will allow them to fully focus on Serie A in order to secure a place in the Champions League for the 2024/2025 season. Moreover, the Conference League is not such a prestigious tournament to set itself the goal of winning it, and in the end it would not bring big income for the team. Perhaps even without this, Serie A would still remain a priority tournament for Juventus.

Not qualifying for the Champions League has been good for Juventus. Because the team has not been able to dominate Serie A for a long time. They have not played well in Serie A in the last three seasons. And now the condition of the Juventus team is not good. The party is not stable. And so the team cannot perform consistently. For this reason next season Juventus will have enough time to stabilize the team and focus only on Serie A. If Juventus aims only for Serie A. And if the performance of Juventus players is stable. Then maybe Juventus will be able to dominate Serie A again. But there is no way to say for sure whether Juventus' performance will be stable next season.
If you say it's an advantage for them, not really, if it's not an advantage, not really, because as you said they don't play like the Champions League, and what they achieved in the previous season was the lowest level of European competition.
As I said before, they have to make the most of their "sanctioned" moment which results in a less busy schedule this coming season. Serie A is the main focus apart from the local competitions they participate in every season.
Yes given their decline in the last few seasons in Serie A, they can make this moment to rise.
4773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever felt remorse after gambling? on: July 31, 2023, 10:47:19 AM
And most people are willing to take that risk because they hope to win from gambling. That's why they even want to use the money to pay bills to play gambling. Because of that hope, he loses and can't pay the bills. It must have made him regret not being able to prevent himself from gambling but it all happened and he could only regret it.
Everyone who gambles will have risks, and the risks of each gambler vary depending on their habits every time they do it, for example there are some of them who are accustomed to betting with high stakes, the risks they will receive are also high, and vice versa if they win. The impact of risk will result in regret, and every gambler will definitely feel regret at a certain level. Their level of regret and risk will depend on how much they expect to win. It is wrong if someone takes shortcuts to get a loan to gamble, there is a lot of pressure when they try to do that to fulfill their lust. Regret will definitely be felt, and if they don't stop the borrowing habit soon then they will feel the stress of being in debt.
High or low bets will not give a higher chance of winning because it depends on our analysis or luck. The difference is in the results we will get. If we win, we win a lot of money. If we lose, we lose a lot of money. In addition, the bets we place will impact us, whether the results win or lose. But if we lose a lot, we must regret it because we have lost a lot of money. And if someone borrows money to gamble, he should be very sorry when he suffers a big loss where he still has to return the money he borrowed. Regret comes last after we get results that don't match what we expected.

Well it won't affect anything at all, I mean gambling is just about luck, the size of the money we bet can't increase our chances of winning. But there are also some of them who do it with a large amount of bets, because as you said above that if our bet is large then if we are lucky our victory will also be very large, and vice versa if we lose then we will experience a large loss according to the amount we bet. As I have said before that it is impossible if someone does not feel regret when they lose. Borrowing is not a good option to make a choice, I will go back to saying that there is no better step except to stop, starting with increasing rest time, reducing association with those who are still actively gambling, adding other activities to daily life. I've tried this and it's a great way to stay away from gambling.
4774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 31, 2023, 10:16:55 AM
Yes, that's true, there are only 3 options that are possible, moving to Al-Hilal because he is tempted by big money, to Real Madrid to support his career or to stay at PSG because there is no other way out, it is very possible than rumors to the team team which in my opinion is also very very unlikely.

Mbappe's drama is quite tough even from last season, it can't be separated because he is a young player with great potential so he is so valuable that makes this drama even more intense.


With the three options you mentioned, I think it looks like Mbappe will prefer to stay at PSG following his first decision. Although many of the Arab League clubs want his arrival but still he will not go to a place that is not his destination, if indeed he is willing to agree to go to Arabia then it is certain that Mbappe will get a lot of money there. Meanwhile I also heard that Real Madrid is not also his destination, there have been a lot of rumors circulating about his future but until now it still hasn't found a clear point. I hear that PSG have now lowered the sale clause again, I don't really know what the reason is but what is certain is that PSG want this sale to happen immediately before Mbappe reaches the end of his contract and it is very possible that he will just leave as a free agent. This is what PSG have always feared so now they have decided to lower the sale clause to attract more interest from other clubs regarding Mbappe. Apart from some rumors about his future, I won't believe too much and I will just wait for the final decision when Mbappe reaches the end of his contract at PSG, will he go to Real Madrid? he said no but it is possible.
4775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 31, 2023, 09:38:24 AM
Yes they have a lot of players and have also brought in some good names too. Imo Chelsea will make the UCL. I’m so sure of this but they won’t win the league. They don’t have European distractions. Pochettino have given them a sense of play and they’re bonding and finding the rhythm this preseason. They will make the CL, people are underestimating what being totally out of Europe brings in term of squad's fitness. It's three teams that one can boldly say are ahead of them.
In the next season, Chelsea cannot be underestimated with their new squad, but Chelsea just needs to focus better on a position that can bring them into the UCL next season. Because I'm also not sure that Chelsea can win the Premier League next season, but if it's just fighting for the top four in the standings, I think it can be very possible for Chelsea. With a new coach at Chelsea, they will definitely have a different spirit next season, especially in terms of trying to be in a better position.

For the Premier League next season I am not at all sure that Chelsea will be able to become champions at the end of the season. I see Chelsea have now shown changes and progress little by little, but to shift the position of Manchester City is too heavy with the current conditions, it is true that occupying the top five positions is very possible for them. Pochettino is now very serious about his work, some new ammunition has been brought in and I see now Pochettino has managed to form chemistry with his players so it is not too difficult to form cohesiveness on the pitch. Chelsea will rise soon but not for this season, but for the next few seasons when Pochettino has managed to perfect all sides in his squad.
4776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 30, 2023, 06:30:40 PM
For the Champions League, it looks like Manchester United can still survive at least until the quarter-finals or even the semi-finals if Erik ten Hag and the players can show their best.
But when Mbappe can actually join Real Madrid this summer, Real Madrid's strength will increase significantly, especially for the attack line, maybe even sharper to penetrate the enemy's defense.

For La Liga, Real Madrid has become the king who rotates with Barcelona, maybe the nickname of the king is more appropriate in La Liga, not the Champions League.
Right now I'm not going to go so far as to talk about whether or not they'll be able to perform at their best in the Champions League, because I have to first see how they shape up in the actual competition. Indeed now we have seen their performances in pre-season matches, but for me it is not a real measure for anyone whether they will perform well or not. This applies to all clubs that will participate in the Champions League later, not just the 2 clubs being discussed here.
I wouldn't say no to today's predictions either, because surely we're going to have different things to say.
I am of a belief that any team could beat any team, there is really no reason that Real or Barcelona or United could not beat each other. In the end Barcelona looks much better than last year on paper, and they have showed how good they could be against Madrid as well but that was a friendly.

I believe that they will be better than last season at UCL as well, lets see how it goes first and if they actually do play better like expected, that would be something that is much better. I believe however that we can't really make it work some other way, it is just not going to end up any different. I believe that the best thing for them would be focusing on league and cup, if they can get that double, then UCL would be forgiven.
That's a good point, any team can beat any team, even if it's a match between a strong team and a weak team, which is normal in football. The difference is the chances of the two teams that will compete, and that chance can still be broken as long as in that match they show something very good for them to win the match in the end.
Sometimes luck will also go straight with the results of the match, no matter how strong and how weak the teams that meet, when luck favors the weak team then it will be a defeat for the big team.
4777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 30, 2023, 06:09:57 PM
There are about 2 weeks left for all clubs to prepare before their first match. Paris Saint Germain have always occupied a prime spot in this title race, although with their current situation it hasn't stopped them from moving from their rightful place.
The question is for other clubs, there is always the inconsistency looming over the clubs that will be the competitors of Paris Saint Germain. Like last season for example, they could have become champions taking advantage of Paris Siant Germain's instability, but they couldn't because they slipped up many times.
Well this will depend from the preparation of each teams and the new signings done during this period. Lens for example let some of their players leave to generate money while Marseille seems to make some serious signing to consolidate different lines. The remaining teams made only few transfers including Monaco, Lille, Nice...
It appears that next season will be PSG and Marseille face to face unless another team popped like Lille few seasons ago.
There's always a difference, and strangely enough I see something of a decline in the moves they make in the transfer market. Like you said about Lens for example, they did well last season and now that some important players have left the club, it's not a guarantee that it will bring them down, but I'm speaking from a realistic perspective. Of course we will see what they do whether it can get better, or it can get worse.

Marseille made a good move if we look at it now, but that doesn't mean it will make them better than a club that didn't make a move like them.
I'd like to see some surprises from clubs that we don't pay attention to, it's difficult but hopefully I'll see it in Ligue 1 this season.



At this moment PSG still doesn't look promising because maybe, the situation and condition of the team is not entirely good. Although indeed, PSG already has a new coach who has good quality and also, Mbappe is still in the PSG squad. But it seems that Enrique's ability to make PSG consistent also doesn't look promising if I consider the results they got in this pre-season game. So yes, I personally think that because Ligue 1 is a tough competition, it seems that PSG will also find it difficult to get consistently good results next season. Therefore, it seems that there will be other clubs who might be able to take advantage of this situation to be at the top of the standings next season.
It's a big change when high-priced players leave one by one, and it's something that will change the situation of the club. There are advantages to doing so, but it depends on how Paris Siant Germain respond. I personally would like to see a change in the composition of the players, from a lot of star players to a club that tends to be ordinary. Sometimes with ordinary players it can actually improve performance.
4778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 30, 2023, 05:53:59 PM
Hard to imagine when Juventus will be able to recover from all these negative events... They have not been doing well in Serie A for a long time now, nor in the Champions League... Now they are left without European Cups next season and without a lot of money to spend on improving the club... Probably next season will be bad for them again...
I'm sure Juventus will be able to bounce back from what they've been through recently, but it will take time and we don't know exactly how long it will take for them to bounce back and get back to the level of fierce competition.
Game-wise, there's not really a problem, and the problems that occurred last season they can overcome with time. But it becomes difficult when problems come from the other side (external factors), which is what we are seeing now. I say external factors because what they are experiencing is caused from outside the field.

Last season they could have finished in second place and I can say they didn't play badly for the first time in years... But I'm sure the fines took a lot of motivation away from the club, especially the fact that they lost the European Cups... But probably they will have a chance to concentrate on Serie A... I would like Juventus to finally have better times after all the recent events...
Now that they have been suspended from European competition, they will have more time to focus on Serie A. It's not an advantage, but they have to make the best of their problems. Yes they performed well as a team, but not as management which we can't help but say that they are more responsible for what Juventus have experienced this season.



Juven was one of my favorite clubs in the past and when Juven started to decline I had no interest in supporting it anymore but in some ways I support it if Juven can definitely improve soon and perform strong this season.
There may be some problems that this club has to face but I am sure that all Juventus players and coaches will be able to go through this windstorm to get their dream to prove that Juven is a strong club like last season.
My hope this season is only for Juventus to recover from getting a ticket to the European league even though their dream is to perform well in the champions league again but at least being able to get a ticket to the European league is better.
I am sure that Massimiliano Allegri can get through all of this by convincing his players to keep performing with good performance and also have to focus on their dreams without having to be burdened with the problems that are currently experiencing Juven.
Even though it a little hard to do it, faith will not betray effort[/left]
They should make the events they don't want to experience into more motivation, of course it would be great if they weren't affected at all by the problems that come their way.
There is no point in lamenting what has already happened, there is no benefit at all. They should make it a valuable thing not to do again in the future.
They are one of the best clubs ever, so they have to show that they deserve the title.

They shouldn't falter so easily, they're one of the best clubs around. Moreover, they have their loyal supporters to please. The 12th man, they are an important factor for the club to improve.
4779  Economy / Economics / Re: Bad impact when You carry out Online or Offline Loans on an ongoing basis on: July 30, 2023, 03:30:12 PM
maybe many people are taking loans online or offline for various urgent reasons, but keep in mind that the habit of making loans will only get you entangled with what is called eternal debt and the possibility of getting addicted to making loans online or offline

A loan is required when you require funds but do not have enough surplus. You should only take a loan if you intend to use it for productive purposes or to purchase an essential affordable asset that you can repay in instalments over a reasonable amount of time. You should never take a loan for speculation or taking risks.If you are in need of any urgent unavoidable Real costs, you can rely on us to help you get through the problem. If you have a good idea or a fresh concept that you are confident of marketing, borrowing money to make it will be a wise move.

Well, as we know, in general, loans will really help someone when experiencing things that cannot be predicted, meaning like an emergency fund. Someone and most everyone will take that path in conditions where they really need fast funds. But sometimes I see that there are also those who take advantage of this opportunity, borrow for various reasons as if they were in a very urgent condition, then they use the money for things that shouldn't be done, or are uncertain, such as for a gamble. Cases like this have happened a lot and many of them have also felt the negative effects, such as stress due to being in debt and there are even some of them who have to enter rehabilitation. For myself, I will only be an honest person by using loan money as needed and will not create various reasons just to get a loan.
4780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 30, 2023, 03:07:08 PM
Have rumor with Liverpool bid offer above 180 million euro for signing Mbappe, but want to play for Liverpool not participants in Champion League? I don't think have excited for Mbappe although more expensive payment fees offer from Liverpool because can't play in Champion League competition is not interested for Mbappe. I have predicting about Mbappe future and seems accurate due he has denied with several offering from Saudi Pro League until Liverpool, he wants play with teams who participant in Champion League and have bigger chance become the winner, prefer he want stay one year left with  PSG until his contract over and becoming free agent is an easy way for Mbappe choosing his future team.
Yes, I agree with that, regardless of the big offer from Liverpool, but now we also have to think realistically that Mbappe is one of the best players in the world, of course he will really take care of his career to be able to continue to improve while Liverpool is currently a team that is in a slump and even they will not play in the UCL next season, it is really very unlikely for Mbappe to want to play at Liverpool in my opinion.

I honestly can't think that Mbappe will go there, Liverpool is not Mbappe's goal at the moment and probably not in the future. I strongly believe that Mbappe wants his career to continue as one of the best players in the world, and if he goes to Liverpool it's like he's sacrificing his own career. With the achievements that Liverpool have achieved in the Premier League last season I think that is enough to indicate that it is very unlikely that Mbappe will agree to this offer to go there. He still has a lot to achieve in Europe of course with great clubs that will continue to support his career and also so far there is nothing convincing or a good achievement from Liverpool to be able to play in the Champions League.
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