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4781  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Congress Hearing On Bitcoin’s Energy Use on: January 17, 2022, 02:56:23 PM
All of them should be sent to school to learn the basics of mathematics and statistics, because if in the past we concluded that according to all relevant research Bitcoin annually consumes about 0.2% of the world's electricity, and more than 50% is from renewable sources. I still think that money is the main motivator, although there are certainly weirdos among them who believe that the earth is flat, that Martians have bases in wheat fields and that Bitcoin is the work of Satan Wink

Politicians won't send them to school, since uneducated people is easier to manipulate every 4 years...
And as long as garlic, holy water and such are still getting on TV as remedies for viral infections in the XXI-th century, I have a feeling that our expectations vs "the world" are, unfortunately, a bit high.
4782  Economy / Economics / Re: The Metaverse economics and Meta-laws on: January 17, 2022, 02:49:51 PM
Who and how decides the "punishment" or penalties for missuse? How do they deal with privacy?

My feeling is that this kind of companies are pushing this metaverse idea so hard exactly because it will be a good "platform" for advertising, mining user information, do all "wild west" things for a while until the point it gets regulated. Just at that point the big companies have already filled their pockets and can slowly patch and adapt the system.
And as long as the punishment for misuse is late and only a few percents from the income, it worth it.

The laws and rules just can't keep up. And I think that this is exactly what FB & Co are counting on.
4783  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Congress Hearing On Bitcoin’s Energy Use on: January 17, 2022, 02:32:04 PM
Despite all the dangerous industries that have been producing incredible pollution and destroying the environment for more than 70 years, all these fake experts and hypocrites choose Bitcoin as the main reason for their fight against greenhouse gases. I find it hard to believe that all these hypocrites are so stupid that they can’t understand the most basic math, so I would conclude that they are mercenaries of the banking system and servants of various anti-Bitcoin coalitions operating worldwide.

I'm curious whether the hearing will clear up anything or will make the things even worse (because, meh, politics...)
And I would not go so far to say they're "mercenaries of the banking system", at least not all of them. They're more probably manipulated than paid...
4784  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Crypto.com suspends withdrawals on: January 17, 2022, 02:27:39 PM
Earlier today a small number of users experienced unauthorized activity in their accounts. All funds are safe.
 
In an abundance of caution, security on all accounts is being enhanced, requiring users to:
 
-Sign back into their App & Exchange accounts
-Reset their 2FA

I am not sure what would "all funds are safe" mean after an "unauthorized activity", still, it doesn't look too bad (yet).
Let's see whether there will be complains after the update they're rolling out now.
4785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin payments decline as other cryptocurrencies grow on: January 17, 2022, 01:47:13 PM
Bitcoiners avoid BitPay because of unreasonable requirements for KYC.
I write about it because if the news and because it can slightly indicate how people are using altcoins with low fee and stable coins for making transaction when exchanges and custodial wallets are confusing people that bitcoin fee is high but not high.

I've been criticizing BitPay, not you. Actually, it was not even criticism, it was basically stating the reality.

I use electrum, I have used it to buy, sell, shop online. What else do I need? I know payment processors can help stores and many like that, that is why they use them, but as for me for now, I am good with electrum.

I also use Electrum. I use it with a HW because I feel that this is the proper way to do it. And if I'd have a shop, then I'd probably use BTCPay.
There are almost always good solutions at hand. And we, those staying more online on this forum, usually know them.
Unfortunately I feel that we're a minority and the rest are going by what the news are telling, which can be in (too) many cases wrong and misleading.

And there's always LN for faster and cheaper payments.
I do not need it for now because the fee is low, I can just remain some little amount on it if I see people that are interested to use it for payment, but I will require it more during when the fee is high, but bitcoin fee is still low.

It's not only you and be who will read this. Some can wait even until the week-end to send a transaction, some others find out that even 10 minutes is too slow. People are different, hence it worth mentioning it.
4786  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Offline bitcoin vending machine using lightning on: January 17, 2022, 01:36:10 PM
This sounds like a really useful way to sell stuff in conferences, meetups, etc, as it's very portable and easy to use.

I guess that they can fit as well at every corner of the street, or supermarkets, or bus/tram/train stations in coffee, snacks or tickets vending machines. I can't wait!
4787  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin payments decline as other cryptocurrencies grow on: January 17, 2022, 12:42:37 PM
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And now that bitcoin fee is that high, what I noticed is that bitcoin exchange fee is higher than actual bitcoin fee, this make people to think it is high. Even less than $1 I used to make the last bitcoin transaction recently but if exchanges are charging $0.0005 bitcoin to a high amount over 0.0012 bitcoin which is $20 and above. They are misleading people to pay high fee when it is not.

I don't think that all crypto trading platforms are misleading the people.Probably some of them.
Crypto exchanges are the same as banks.They want to make money.

Even more, they prefer the money stay on their platform. Also their transaction related code is usually obsolete and poorly configured.
However, I agree to OP about misleading. Most exchanges use such words related to their withdrawal fee that people think that is the network fee (transaction fee). And this makes many newbies get misled that bitcoin transaction fees are high.
While exchanges do use high transaction fees to make sure the money does arrive fast to the recipient, it's not uncommon neither to see them use less fee than the money asked from the user for that, neither pay unreasonably high fee. And of course, they'll say it's the network fee...
4788  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin payments decline as other cryptocurrencies grow on: January 17, 2022, 11:25:45 AM
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According to BitPay

Bitcoiners avoid BitPay because of unreasonable requirements for KYC.
Before, bitcoiners used to avoid BitPay because they were favoring BCH and had bigger fees for bitcoin.

All in all, the fact BitPay business doesn't go so great as bitcoin payment processor doesn't mean at all that bitcoin payments would be in a decline.


And now that bitcoin fee is that high, what I noticed is that bitcoin exchange fee is higher than actual bitcoin fee, this make people to think it is high.

If one uses custodian wallet, he pays whatever the custodian asks and - especially in case of exchanges - the withdrawal fee is big and unrelated to network fee.
I've made transaction 2 days ago and iirc the fee was under 10 cents. Now it's 5-6 times bigger if you're in a hurry, but that's still way under 1$.
Bitcoin transactions are not expensive nowadays. The reality is different than what various "friends" advertise.

And there's always LN for faster and cheaper payments.

The reason for the high fee is because of centralized sites like centralized wallets and exchanges. To use low fee, you can use noncustododial wallet.

That's correct. Also for smaller fees use bc1 addresses. And also the (legit) non-custodial wallets are usually better for your funds' safety (just you have to learn yourself to do everything correct).
4789  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: FEES PANEL on: January 16, 2022, 06:24:50 PM
You should really tell what service or software you are talking about, since Bitcoin Core has no fees panel at all.
Keep in mind that we are not telepathic and we can't guess your problem if you don't give as much info as possible. Then we can try to help.
So... what are you trying to use? And what you're trying to achieve?
4790  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: DCA instead of stop-loss on: January 16, 2022, 03:33:57 PM
Oh okay, im not exactly follow the theory on the book or in wikipedia Grin Im DCA=ing the dip, because just like the meme you never know where the bottom of the dip.

Offcourse you feel free to DCA as in wikipedia or theory on the book, if you feel that you should do that  Grin

You are free to do whatever you want with you money, really Grin
The point was not that you should do DCA. It's up to you.
The point was to not call DCA something that's not DCA, since what you do now is confusing anybody reading and trying to understand Wink
4791  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: DCA instead of stop-loss on: January 16, 2022, 11:30:51 AM
theres still chance that bitcoin down to 30k area, im ready to dca at that price but if its not then im also fine.

Lol if you're just going to do dollar-cost averaging only at certain prices or only after a certain amount of price decrease, then you're totally missing the point of dollar-cost averaging.

what am i missing exactly?

What you seem to do is some sort of hunt for buying the dip.
DCA means a clear plan and investing every x days no matter of price evolution.
Imho you should read a little more to understand DCA..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_cost_averaging
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dollarcostaveraging.asp
4792  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: One of the best forum on: January 16, 2022, 10:42:47 AM
for example, the yellow font color you put on "bitcointalk", the color makes it harder to read.

The yellow bitcointalk example is fine only on light "theme". When a dark theme is being used, then that blue Twitter becomes hard to read.
So I agree that OP should learn to not use the colors unnecessarily and I want to mean all colors, no matter they're very light or they're dark.
4793  Other / Meta / Re: Fix unresponsive Firefox on: January 16, 2022, 10:10:52 AM
I bet it's website owned by small company or local government.

Local government is a safe bet. But large company old internal web-based software, no too often used, no longer maintained, maybe too expensive to update, can be quite a good bet too. And individuals' more or less abandoned public pages are also there.
4794  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: I need test audience for a project on: January 16, 2022, 10:04:25 AM
2. The prices and amounts should be shown in an "unified" way, not in the way the user has entered it. I mean.. I have some with 0.something, I have some with .something; maybe convert everything to #n.nnnnnnnn?

About the price amounts: If think you want a total (A multiplied by B), then that is visible as 'Total Price'. I think what I am displaying is the trade history, so it displays exactly what you tried to sell/buy and at what price.
Maybe I am not getting what you mean, could you draw it out and share? Or just save the html and edit it and take a screenshot and share?

You've misunderstood. Just look again at the image at point 2:
* you can see units as .15 and as 0.07000000
* you can see price as .078 or 0.078
It looks messy. My suggestion was to put a 0 before the decimal point if it's missing, and maybe show the same number of digits (8?) after decimal point everywhere.
I.e. show 0.15000000 instead of .15, keep 0.07000000 as it is, change .078 and 0.078 into 0.07800000.

Also note that it's not that I do not have an order book, but it is intentionally not placed as a unified database. I will have to write code for the orderbook option to make all orders look like a cohesive orderbook. That all being said, if I observe enough interest, I might consider writing a module for orderbook so that the traders can view it (see global exchange-level trade queues). But I prefer a blackbox approach for everyone's privacy.

Displaying some sort of order book doesn't have to be in the same way as the users post the orders, so privacy should not suffer (so maybe that "cohesive orderbook" was in my mind, just didn't know how to express it)
But one should really know what he can do in order to get an order processed - how much to ask for his ETH or how much he should sell his BTC for.
However, it's your project and your decisions, all I can do is to post advises; whether you take them into consideration or not is 100% up to you.

Update: Added a 'REFRESH' button. No, it does not log you off  Grin

Super! Thank you!
4795  Other / Meta / Re: Fix unresponsive Firefox on: January 15, 2022, 05:07:43 PM
Even I have firefox and updates it all the time but still I don't feel it is so smooth like Chrome or Opera, so I just go with Google even though I know they aree tracking our data but it doesn't real bother me too much because I am using it for surfing normal websites even bitcointalk too and when I needed privacy just go with Tor.

I switched from Chrome for multiple reasons, it was not only the surveillance.
Still, it's not uninstalled, since I do need it now and then, exactly because some people just don't care to make their websites work for anything else than Chromium.

Internet Explorer? Anyone really using it in 2023? Cheesy because even on my good spec device it takes atleast a minute to open up the homepage.

As I said, many years ago. Back then I've been working also web pages and back then IE was still important.
And, well, you'd be surprised, but there are still old pages "optimized for IE" that may not even work well with Chrome of FFox, and also IE is used internally by various software without telling you it's IE. That's actually why Win10 still has it (although, I know, it shows Edge to our face, and that's Chromium-based).
4796  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Brazilian mayor to reportedly invest 1% of city funds in Bitcoin on: January 15, 2022, 04:58:33 PM
I couldn't find what the annual budget for Rio is, does that 1% mean anything worth mentioning at all?

Such a big city has to have quite a budget. I won't call that 1% worthless.

I've found this paper, but I don't know if it's the numbers we expect.
At page 5 (see image below) it shows at least 15000M BRL, of which 1% is 27M US dollar. I can call it a good start.
And even if this would not happen, I am still happy to see tax exemptions and basically a warm welcome to crypto businesses there. It's a good news.

4797  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: I need test audience for a project on: January 15, 2022, 04:14:39 PM
1. I've got one of my orders partly filled. Nice, but the trade history is basically unreadable.



2. The prices and amounts should be shown in an "unified" way, not in the way the user has entered it. I mean.. I have some with 0.something, I have some with .something; maybe convert everything to #n.nnnnnnnn?



3. It may not be a bad ideas to add visible margins or something into the tables so one can see better what is what (like that price amounts way to the left); maybe different font or color for "table headers"... I mean it doesn't have to be beautiful, but one has to read it easy.

4. I agree with a previous post: why can't we see all the existing open orders on the platform so we don't go blindly (we see what orders we can match)?
4798  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2022 Diff thread. on: January 15, 2022, 11:29:37 AM
Add gas flaring, add some gas powerplants, one-two smelters, wouldn't be surprised if more manage under 5c rates.

Don't forget that at least for this winter exporting gas (well, LNG) to Europe can be a better business.
And US has started doing that. How much it affects US itself... I can't tell though.
4799  Other / Meta / Re: Fix unresponsive Firefox on: January 15, 2022, 08:57:26 AM
With Chrome dominance, many website (especially with small resource/budget) these days don't bother support different Firefox.

Last time I needed that I had to check for IE vs other browsers  Cheesy, quite some years ago  Grin
On the other hand, I've noticed now and then services that work better on Chrome than on Firefox. It may depends on what (functions) they use, it may mean that some did care to make it more compatible and some didn't.

But it has just occurred to me that since now Edge is also Chromium... you may be indeed right...
4800  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cloudbet has confiscated funds in violation of their TOS on: January 15, 2022, 08:53:19 AM
The KYC requirements is mentioned in the casino terms.

Sorry, but I'm sick and tired by the number of fishy things done by various services in the name of KYC.
I don't say that OP situation is crystal clear. It isn't. But the casino behavior is also questionable.

Cloudbet hasn't mentioned anything about the usage of VPN in their terms, but it is better to avoid the usage of VPN in a licensed casino where some country restrictions are placed.
The problem arises when you use a VPN with an IP address from a restricted country. If that happens, the casino can ask why you are doing that and if you have something to hide. You might just be interested in protecting your own privacy (a legit reason), or you could be using multiple accounts or be located in a country banned from the casino. So you are using the VPN to get around that ban.

If VPN is not disallowed explicitly, it can be considered allowed. Of course, if it's used for abuse, it's a completely different story.
Now, I've seen that "one of my accounts" wording and it can be seen as "one of my Cloudbet accounts" (which is abuse) or "one my gambling accounts" (may be one at Cloudbet and one at Bitsler).
Since Cloudbet didn't bother to come and show a minimum evidence that OP is cheating... why should I assume that?

This case has many whats and ifs. Both parties are like two opposing armies who have each other at gunpoint. But no one is shooting or negotiating the terms to lay down the weapons.

Well said.

It's odd that the casino did come to say a word. If they would have clear evidence of anything bad, they could clear their name easily. Also paying that small amount is an option.
The fact they don't do any move rise a question imho about how much they care about their customers.
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