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4781  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 09, 2015, 02:11:44 PM
I wouldn't say that is entirely true. I know of europeans forums that a rife with anti-zionist spirit. A lot of people know about this by now. In many occasions a large majority mention them as the culprit. Believe it or not there is "patriotic" spirit alive also in Europe.

They don't have 300 million weapons. A few disgruntled old men (and some young Neo Nazis) of which many of them idolized Hitler are confused, disorganized, and too weak in number, arms, and diluted in the population to have much effect.

The second statement is not true. Young people are waking up to this at growing pace. Most of them are not neo-nazis. Do you think you're the only one with internet and an inquisitive mind?

I haven't seen any comment nor post from any of them. Not here. Not on Youtube. Not on facebook.

All I see out of Europe is delusion. The only quality I saw in Europe that they have which is a potential advantage is the anti-religion and anti-war stance which could make them more immune to falling for the conversative Muslim vs. Christian meme, but then they instead fall for the liberal meme of a Zionist Jewish homeland, guilt over killing a million Jews, multiculturalism, fairness, socialism, feminism, humanism, etc..

Note I am not anti-jewish. Zionist hijacked the Diaspora, but this was predicted in the Bible.
4782  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 09, 2015, 02:02:15 PM
I wouldn't say that is entirely true. I know of europeans forums that a rife with anti-zionist spirit. A lot of people know about this by now. In many occasions a large majority mention them as the culprit. Believe it or not there is "patriotic" spirit alive also in Europe.

They don't have 300 million weapons. A few disgruntled old men (and some young Neo Nazis) of which many of them idolized Hitler are confused, disorganized, and too weak in number, arms, and diluted in the population to have much effect.
4783  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 09, 2015, 01:58:37 PM
He had the option of a trial, not only during his plea hearing but during most of his seven year confinement for contempt...

He subsequently had the option to litigate, in court, his claims that his civil rights were violated...

You repeat the lies of the Zionists who control the court system, especially New York City. I had even given you a link that courts in other jurisdictions were afraid to challenge NYC courts.

Smooth really you have no proof of any of this other than copying what the Zionist court wrote because as I have pointed out numerous times to your hardhead, he was denied a public hearing and the court was changing transcripts and many other more evil things than we can even know.

Dude read my prior post and please grow up. This is serious shit. You are in a make believe fantasy world.

I don't have any more time for your nonsense.

You are a smart programmer and I wish you would learn about your weaknesses. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses.
4784  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: October 09, 2015, 01:45:24 PM
I have not yet tied the role the Knowledge Age could play in the following struggle we face.

Generative Essence of What We Face Now

This post is incredibly important. If you don't focus on these videos, you do not understand the world we live in.

Martin Armstrong does not understand this. He hasn't watched these videos. That is why he is fooled about the fundamental cause, motive, and the global elite.


For Those Who Still Doubt 9/11 Wasn't a Demolition

Edit: I've added this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Q5eZhCPuc

If you have at least watched that one linked video above, you now understand without any doubt that 9/11 was an inside demolition. Any one who denies it after watching that video is simply insane.

So now if you want to know who did 9/11, here is that information:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw4UDcmOqp4

...

Edit: listen to the first new video and you will understand what is going on in the Middle East.

If you've watched those two videos from start to finished and been attentive to every engineering detail in the first video and made sure you understand every demographic detail in the second video, then you already have realized there is something very profound about the role of the Zionists—iwho've formed and hijacked the State of Israel—iin everything that is going wrong. The evil is much more the raison d'être than for the concept of the "bankster". You must begin to realize that "bankster" is not the central enemy, but rather is one manisfestation of the following strategy for control of the world.

Btw, all of this is described in the Bible. Also if you become aware of the Abomination of the Desolation, there is a timing in the Bible for Jesus's return based on two events that already occurred— the formation of the Jewish state and the Camp David peace accord between Israel and Egypt (note Jimmy Carter's role although afaics he is not an intentionally evil player). I had calculated that date as 2024 back in 2007 with Marshall Swing. Marshall has since done some additional work on it and had emailed in my 2014 saying Armstrong timing was coinciding with his calculations (which he refused to detail to me in email) and that 2015.75 would begin the 7 year Tribulation. I had and continue to be skeptical of any timing based on the Bible alone (and I am not sure if I find Marshall credible), but I share it only because the way the truth is shaping up to match the Bible is too strong of a correlation to totally ignore. I am a scientist. Correlation doesn't mean cause and effect, but it is clue. However, the next paragraph is the most salient in terms of the new point I want to make in this post.

But maybe it has not yet occurred to you that Zionists have leveraged the 1000s of years hold conflict between Christians and Muslims to be able to place themselves in the drivers seat of control over the political-economic-media-military world by promoting these two religious factions to fight each other. They are promoting conflict every where they can, even between man and woman via feminism and its other extreme fundamentalist (non-moderate) Sharia Law Islam, as way to Balkanize (aka divide-and-conquer) the world so they can pull the strings without being attacked or focused upon. Yugoslavia served as an example for them as it was Balkanized by waves of conquest and threats from three or four ethnic groups over the centuries, with Muslims as one of them. As one example, you can even note in the first video below how foisting of feminism on the West by the Zionists (of which Rockefeller and Rothschild are members) has set us up to more in the cross-hairs of the Muslims and pushed their men more towards fundamentalism. If you watch very carefully the second video above and then the following videos will help solidify this concept for you the reader, so that you will understand much better what is going on in the world now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHl1JnQoIWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sV9UcZoTM4 (turmoil is what the Zionists want! Note Russia nor USA nor China will never bomb Israel! Remember I have explained democracy is a power vacuum lie)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvtC_qzHVM4 (former POTUS Jimmy Carter)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy_cUpxT884

From this we can start to analyze the upcoming future of the USA and Europe. We are being subverted by the Zionists. Are they going for broke and go to a shooting war with the Patriots?

We can clearly see that their goal is drive strife via multicultural conflict. This ties in with their belief that tribalism is the root of man's faults and thus why they are more suited to lead us because we can't lead ourselves. They see this all as destiny for them as written in the ancient texts such as the Bible, Koran, and occult/pagan.

By killing a million Jews with the Hitler they created (remember Prescott Bush financed Hitler through his Union Bank), they have created sympathy for a Jewish homeland amongst the liberals in the USA. By framing it as Muslim versus Christian, they garnish support amongst the religious conservatives in the USA. The Zionists are cleverly manipulating our political systems as well our economics. The media is owned by 6 families who are all Zionists. Etc.

For this analysis we can see Europeans are much more enslaved by the Zionists than the Americans. We still have the Patriots who are not entirely hoodwinked into the Zionist mind programming. The Europeans are fully indoctrinated into the crap the Zionists want them to the believe! Ponder that!

Btw, by making this post I may become a target of covert action. It is quite possible this is the last post I may be allowed to make if I continue on this line, because I am explaining in a very crystal clear way that very few if any have. Please make sure you spread this information far and wide. Email Armstrong this post!!!!!!!!!!!
4785  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 09, 2015, 01:43:26 PM
Generative Essence of What We Face Now

This post is incredibly important. If you don't focus on these videos, you do not understand the world we live in.

Martin Armstrong does not understand this. He hasn't watched these videos. That is why he is fooled about the fundamental cause, motive, and the global elite.


For Those Who Still Doubt 9/11 Wasn't a Demolition

Edit: I've added this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Q5eZhCPuc

If you have at least watched that one linked video above, you now understand without any doubt that 9/11 was an inside demolition. Any one who denies it after watching that video is simply insane.

So now if you want to know who did 9/11, here is that information:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw4UDcmOqp4

...

Edit: listen to the first new video and you will understand what is going on in the Middle East.

If you've watched those two videos from start to finished and been attentive to every engineering detail in the first video and made sure you understand every demographic detail in the second video, then you already have realized there is something very profound about the role of the Zionists—iwho've formed and hijacked the State of Israel—iin everything that is going wrong. The evil is much more the raison d'être than for the concept of the "bankster". You must begin to realize that "bankster" is not the central enemy, but rather is one manisfestation of the following strategy for control of the world.

Btw, all of this is described in the Bible. Also if you become aware of the Abomination of the Desolation, there is a timing in the Bible for Jesus's return based on two events that already occurred— the formation of the Jewish state and the Camp David peace accord between Israel and Egypt (note Jimmy Carter's role although afaics he is not an intentionally evil player). I had calculated that date as 2024 back in 2007 with Marshall Swing. Marshall has since done some additional work on it and had emailed in my 2014 saying Armstrong timing was coinciding with his calculations (which he refused to detail to me in email) and that 2015.75 would begin the 7 year Tribulation. I had and continue to be skeptical of any timing based on the Bible alone (and I am not sure if I find Marshall credible), but I share it only because the way the truth is shaping up to match the Bible is too strong of a correlation to totally ignore. I am a scientist. Correlation doesn't mean cause and effect, but it is clue. However, the next paragraph is the most salient in terms of the new point I want to make in this post.

But maybe it has not yet occurred to you that Zionists have leveraged the 1000s of years hold conflict between Christians and Muslims to be able to place themselves in the drivers seat of control over the political-economic-media-military world by promoting these two religious factions to fight each other. They are promoting conflict every where they can, even between man and woman via feminism and its other extreme fundamentalist (non-moderate) Sharia Law Islam, as way to Balkanize (aka divide-and-conquer) the world so they can pull the strings without being attacked or focused upon. Yugoslavia served as an example for them as it was Balkanized by waves of conquest and threats from three or four ethnic groups over the centuries, with Muslims as one of them. As one example, you can even note in the first video below how foisting of feminism on the West by the Zionists (of which Rockefeller and Rothschild are members) has set us up to more in the cross-hairs of the Muslims and pushed their men more towards fundamentalism. If you watch very carefully the second video above and then the following videos will help solidify this concept for you the reader, so that you will understand much better what is going on in the world now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHl1JnQoIWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sV9UcZoTM4 (turmoil is what the Zionists want! Note Russia nor USA nor China will never bomb Israel! Remember I have explained democracy is a power vacuum lie)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvtC_qzHVM4 (former POTUS Jimmy Carter)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy_cUpxT884

From this we can start to analyze the upcoming future of the USA and Europe. We are being subverted by the Zionists. Are they going for broke and go to a shooting war with the Patriots?

We can clearly see that their goal is drive strife via multicultural conflict. This ties in with their belief that tribalism is the root of man's faults and thus why they are more suited to lead us because we can't lead ourselves. They see this all as destiny for them as written in the ancient texts such as the Bible, Koran, and occult/pagan.

By killing a million Jews with the Hitler they created (remember Prescott Bush financed Hitler through his Union Bank), they have created sympathy for a Jewish homeland amongst the liberals in the USA. By framing it as Muslim versus Christian, they garnish support amongst the religious conservatives in the USA. The Zionists are cleverly manipulating our political systems as well our economics. The media is owned by 6 families who are all Zionists. Etc.

For this analysis we can see Europeans are much more enslaved by the Zionists than the Americans. We still have the Patriots who are not entirely hoodwinked into the Zionist mind programming. The Europeans are fully indoctrinated into the crap the Zionists want them to the believe! Ponder that!

Btw, by making this post I may become a target of covert action. It is quite possible this is the last post I may be allowed to make if I continue on this line, because I am explaining in a very crystal clear way that very few if any have. Please make sure you spread this information far and wide. Email Armstrong this post!!!!!!!!!!!
4786  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 09, 2015, 01:42:31 PM
Generative Essence of What We Face Now

This post is incredibly important. If you don't focus on these videos, you do not understand the world we live in.

Martin Armstrong does not understand this. He hasn't watched these videos. That is why he is fooled about the fundamental cause, motive, and the global elite.


For Those Who Still Doubt 9/11 Wasn't a Demolition

Edit: I've added this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Q5eZhCPuc

If you have at least watched that one linked video above, you now understand without any doubt that 9/11 was an inside demolition. Any one who denies it after watching that video is simply insane.

So now if you want to know who did 9/11, here is that information:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw4UDcmOqp4

...

Edit: listen to the first new video and you will understand what is going on in the Middle East.

If you've watched those two videos from start to finished and been attentive to every engineering detail in the first video and made sure you understand every demographic detail in the second video, then you already have realized there is something very profound about the role of the Zionists—iwho've formed and hijacked the State of Israel—iin everything that is going wrong. The evil is much more the raison d'être than for the concept of the "bankster". You must begin to realize that "bankster" is not the central enemy, but rather is one manisfestation of the following strategy for control of the world.

Btw, all of this is described in the Bible. Also if you become aware of the Abomination of the Desolation, there is a timing in the Bible for Jesus's return based on two events that already occurred— the formation of the Jewish state and the Camp David peace accord between Israel and Egypt (note Jimmy Carter's role although afaics he is not an intentionally evil player). I had calculated that date as 2024 back in 2007 with Marshall Swing. Marshall has since done some additional work on it and had emailed in my 2014 saying Armstrong timing was coinciding with his calculations (which he refused to detail to me in email) and that 2015.75 would begin the 7 year Tribulation. I had and continue to be skeptical of any timing based on the Bible alone (and I am not sure if I find Marshall credible), but I share it only because the way the truth is shaping up to match the Bible is too strong of a correlation to totally ignore. I am a scientist. Correlation doesn't mean cause and effect, but it is clue. However, the next paragraph is the most salient in terms of the new point I want to make in this post.

But maybe it has not yet occurred to you that Zionists have leveraged the 1000s of years hold conflict between Christians and Muslims to be able to place themselves in the drivers seat of control over the political-economic-media-military world by promoting these two religious factions to fight each other. They are promoting conflict every where they can, even between man and woman via feminism and its other extreme fundamentalist (non-moderate) Sharia Law Islam, as way to Balkanize (aka divide-and-conquer) the world so they can pull the strings without being attacked or focused upon. Yugoslavia served as an example for them as it was Balkanized by waves of conquest and threats from three or four ethnic groups over the centuries, with Muslims as one of them. As one example, you can even note in the first video below how foisting of feminism on the West by the Zionists (of which Rockefeller and Rothschild are members) has set us up to more in the cross-hairs of the Muslims and pushed their men more towards fundamentalism. If you watch very carefully the second video above and then the following videos will help solidify this concept for you the reader, so that you will understand much better what is going on in the world now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHl1JnQoIWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sV9UcZoTM4 (turmoil is what the Zionists want! Note Russia nor USA nor China will never bomb Israel! Remember I have explained democracy is a power vacuum lie)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvtC_qzHVM4 (former POTUS Jimmy Carter)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy_cUpxT884

From this we can start to analyze the upcoming future of the USA and Europe. We are being subverted by the Zionists. Are they going for broke and go to a shooting war with the Patriots?

We can clearly see that their goal is drive strife via multicultural conflict. This ties in with their belief that tribalism is the root of man's faults and thus why they are more suited to lead us because we can't lead ourselves. They see this all as destiny for them as written in the ancient texts such as the Bible, Koran, and occult/pagan.

By killing a million Jews with the Hitler they created (remember Prescott Bush financed Hitler through his Union Bank), they have created sympathy for a Jewish homeland amongst the liberals in the USA. By framing it as Muslim versus Christian, they garnish support amongst the religious conservatives in the USA. The Zionists are cleverly manipulating our political systems as well our economics. The media is owned by 6 families who are all Zionists. Etc.

For this analysis we can see Europeans are much more enslaved by the Zionists than the Americans. We still have the Patriots who are not entirely hoodwinked into the Zionist mind programming. The Europeans are fully indoctrinated into the crap the Zionists want them to the believe! Ponder that!

Btw, by making this post I may become a target of covert action. It is quite possible this is the last post I may be allowed to make if I continue on this line, because I am explaining in a very crystal clear way that very few if any have. Please make sure you spread this information far and wide. Email Armstrong this post!!!!!!!!!!!


P.S. generalizethis you are really childish and this is serious business for grownups. We have a very serious problem brewing and I don't have time for idiots. Seriously. Have an open mind and don't criticize what you have not studied and are thus ignorant of. Saying you haven't been shown proof is a cop out for people who have more time to heckle from the sidelines than time to actually research, learn, and share their discoveries with the good people who want to save the world from what is happening. I have been working on this stuff since at least 2006 nearly full time. I deserve some respect. If you refuse to give me the respect I deserve, then all we have here is a non-meritorious thread for noise and wasting our time. I hope this is the last time I will need to speak to you about this. You set yourself up for the fall when you ASS-U-ME-D that rpietila is wrong about the Bible without proving it. I didn't ASS-U-ME. I search for the truth. I am older and wiser than you. Please grow up.
4787  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 09, 2015, 05:15:22 AM
For Those Who Still Doubt 9/11 Wasn't a Demolition

Edit: I've added this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Q5eZhCPuc

If you have at least watched that one linked video above, you now understand without any doubt that 9/11 was an inside demolition. Any one who denies it after watching that video is simply insane.

So now if you want to know who did 9/11, here is that information:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw4UDcmOqp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkOqjeL_dRc


generalizethis has a lot of explaining to do. (perhaps smooth will again join him hiding under that rock of shame)


I hope readers are in shock. If I tell you I have done research, next time you will not tell me I am a false prophet.

Edit: listen to the first new video and you will understand what is going on in the Middle East.
4788  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 09, 2015, 03:14:05 AM
Reposting this to add a message to top saying I added one video link below and also to inform my angel investors I will be back on Bitmessage probably within 24 hours and apologies for such a long down time due to desperate focus on health past couple of weeks or so. (for those that don't know, I don't communicate on Bitmessage from the location where I live and it isn't for anonymity reasons but just that my ISP here blocks the Bitmessage ports)


To those who have given me good advice in this thread, I ask you if someone offered me a significant amount of money for my designs, such that I could pay off my angel investors, have sufficient funding to go take care of my health (e.g. seek proper diagnostics such as PCR test for chlamydophila pneumoniae to justify the antibiotic treatment), and have enough savings to be able to pay Philippines-level expenses for up to a couple of years until I could work again (maybe even for them?) once health stabilized, do you think I should take the deal if I felt they were sincere developers capable of finishing my project?? (other advantage being it might also remove me from the forum which is probably a positive outcome, to let new grass grow)

I am also interested in hearing what sincere people think about the evidence below about 9/11? I found it very convincing in total, but not if not all of the videos are watched. It got buried in the Armstrong discussion and I wanted to extract it out orthogonal to the Armstrong arguments. (The Armstrong stuff is incidental, I didn't feel like editing the post as I copied from a discussion in the Armstrong thread)

Note I added one important video below over what I had in the Armstrong thread.




For Those Who Still Doubt 9/11 Wasn't a Demolition

The real reason Armstrong was thrown in jail without a public trial.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/tag/relationship-banking

Quote from: Armstrong
Back in 1999, I stood up in court and objected Alan Cohen’s demands for my lawyers to turn over tapes of conversations I recorded to protect me as a journalist when I was writing about the various bank manipulations. I told Judge Richard Owen that those tapes revealed criminal activity by the major banks in market manipulations across the board, ..., and had nothing to do with my case.

Judge Owen told my lawyers to turn over all the tapes or they would be thrown in prison and held in contempt. That action under the law was totally illegal for it was an OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE that would land anyone else in prison for 5 years. Instead, Goldman Sachs hired Alan Cohen, awarding him a position on the board while remaining court officer still running Princeton Economics. Cohen never resigned, despite the obvious conflict of interest. I NEVER received any support from anyone in the press for what I was defending. They understood that since the media is on their side they can get away with anything.

Now four of the banks: JPMorgan Chase, Barclays, Citigroup, and RBS have agreed to plead guilty to U.S. criminal charges with fines reaching $5.7 billion. The U.S. Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, said that “almost every day” these firms were manipulating currency rates since 2007 to clip clients on transactions all the time.




http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/research/rule-of-law/goldman-sachs-v-armstrong

Quote from: Armstrong
Our computers and all the evidence in our case, including the evidence gathered documenting more than a decade of organized manipulations were amazingly destroyed in the only building that was never hit by anything nor was there any major fire. This in itself has led to countless suspicions about what really went on behind the collapse of the SEC offices in World Trade Center 7. Here is a video on this strange set of circumstances plus a letter from the SEC claiming all evidence in my case was destroyed, which many believe was a convenient way to protect the New York Investment Bankers.




World Trade Center 7 (WTC7) was demolished. This is fact. Reviewing the following will explain this fact.

No steel building has every collapsed on its footprint from fire. It is simply physically impossible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw

Fire marshall who was on the scene explains it was demolition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQrpLp-X0ws

The BBC was told in advance that WTC7 would fall and they accidentally reported it too soon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0qdLoobkUI

The networks repeatedly cut off the news reporter who was on the scene when ever she was asked about the error:
https://youtu.be/yEj-kXPfb_g?t=69

In 2001, Silverstein reworked the insurance for the WTCs to include destruction by terrorism, he won $7 billion insurance payment on his original $15 million investment:
(also watch this video for additional damning facts)
https://youtu.be/BWZELJA_fSU?t=181

The AE911Truth chief engineer spokesman astutely explains the science of why the buildings were demolished:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAGRuRKudO4

Watch him totally own a debunker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKFiGfW6aGY

Edit: I've added this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Q5eZhCPuc




http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/21279

Quote from: Armstrong
All the evidence I had gathered that included documentation and phone recordings with brokers who also were monitoring these manipulations were seized by the now Chief of Global Compliance at Goldman Sachs and Tancred Schiavoni. The court put Cohen in charge of Princeton Economics. All that evidence vanished or I would be putting on the Web those audio tapes for the world to hear. Below is a transcript of the court proceeding where I objected about the seizure of this evidence I knew would miraculously vanish.




http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/11429

Quote from: Armstrong
What I can say is I had personal conversations with Bill and he knew about the Buffett silver manipulation back in 1993 and how the CFTC walked into to PhiBro demanding they reveal their client. PhiBro refused and the CFTC told them to exit the trade. For him to have known that meant he had some real sources.

I confess, I am not aware of what they have said about manipulations since. I, and many others in the industry, kept track of all the manipulations for they covered everything from Rhodium to US Government Bond auctions just like the LIBOR scandal. I have explained that manipulations were common in the commodity industry during the 1970s. I saw those skills migrate to Wall Street only AFTER the big commodity house PhiBro put in a bid for Salomon Brothers. Then Goldman Sachs bought J. Aaron in the mid 1980s. From there the game expanded and by 1991, Salomon got caught manipulating the Federal Government Bond auctions. Talk about guts. This scandal was then documented in the 1993 book Nightmare on Wall Street.

I was one of the largest traders. So I kept track of what was going on just to make sure I did not get caught up it the nonsense. They tried persistently to get to to join the manipulation crowd. I could trade so (1) I didn’t need that, and (2) how do you know when you are the patsy? I saw Salomon use analysts to say the bonds were rising and they were selling using other brokers on the floor. They take no prisoners.

There was the  Robert Maxwell (1923–1991) scandal that he had stolen hundreds of millions of pounds from his own companies’ pension funds to save the companies from bankruptcy. However, behind the scenes there may have been trading losses with the club. Eventually, the pension funds were replenished with monies from investment banks Shearson Lehman and Goldman Sachs, as well as the British government. Maxwell was presumed to have fallen overboard from his luxury yacht off the Canary Islands, and his body was subsequently found floating in the Atlantic Ocean. He was buried on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem with great official participation. The official ruling was death by accidental drowning.

On the second Silver Manipulation PhiBro brokers walked across the floor and showed me the Buffett orders to buy desperately trying to get me to join. They did not like it when I published “they’re back” giving the price target of $7 which was met on schedule. The silver bugs hated my guts then as well because they wanted so much to believe it was real. They have these people wound around their finger knowing that if they just make the metals rise, these people will always buy the high believing this time it is different an the price will truly soar. They need these believers so they can sell the high as always and then the fake analysts say the decline is not real, its just a manipulation to force it down (assuming the rise was real of course), so just keep buying. It works EVERY time!. When I say they are at it again, I get the hate mail because these people cannot wait to hand the bankers their money every time.

For the whole Long-Term Capital Management collapse and Russia, they tried to get me involved. I was invited to the IMF dinner just to impress me that they had the IMF in the palm of their hand just like they have the US government today. I refused to get involved, yet they knew I knew everything. When Russia collapsed in 1998, they blamed me saying I had more influence than all the politicians they could buy. They do not believe in real markets – only rigging the game. That is why they do not consider risk when you bribe everything you do not even consider what if you are wrong. That is why they ALWAYS need bailouts.

The strange thing is when my case began I believed it was really about the fact I refused to play ball with the New York boys since the contracts were clear – we bought the portfolios outright and were NOT managing their money. An idiot could just read the contracts and the accounts were ours – not client’s with a limited power of attorney. I had documented EVERY manipulation with hard evidence and taped EVERY phone call as insurance. So when they started the case and removed press that knew the truth, I understood the game was afoot. I believe they were illegally tapping my lawyers for somehow they found out I had split up that evidence and gave it to two law firms for safekeeping. They went after my lawyers threatening to throw them in jail unless they turnover that evidence. The lawyer pressing for it that day was Martin Glen who I believe was rewarded with a Judgeship and coincidentally is the presiding judge over M.F. Global who protected once again the NY banks. The receiver Alan Cohen I believe was rewarded by giving him a board position in Goldman Sachs. I guess another coincidence. The SEC head of enforcement was Andrew Geist. who selected the law firm O’Melveny & Myers to get all this evidence and then resigned from the SEC and became a partner in that very law firm – coincidence once again of course. The CFTC prosecutor Dennis O’Kkeefe was disbarred for misconduct in the other case at that time charging Sumitomo for manipulating copper not mentioning at all the NY boys or how Sumitomo was trying to defend its positions rather than “manipulate” absorbing the short sales of the NY boys so I believe they had the CFTC taken Sumitomo out of the game making them a fortune..
4789  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 09, 2015, 01:44:52 AM
other than some misleading statements about his past legal troubles

Prove he has committed a crime. If there is a case with public evidence then that should be trivially easy.

Legally speaking his guilty plea and conviction is sufficient proof, and public record of such.

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(this exercise will prove you are making slanderous statement above)

If he wishes to make a claim against me for stating that he has had past legal troubles or that he was convicted of a crime, then I will be happy to provide him with my attorney's contact information. That should be fun, for about 15 minutes until the court record of his conviction is presented as evidence and the case gets thrown out.

That is what I thought. You have no proof. Because there is no evidence in the public. Because there was no trial. Etc..

FAIL.

End of discussion.
4790  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 09, 2015, 01:42:55 AM
sure there was as I pointed out his flaws you jump all over others.. maybe you can work as his paid marketer or receptionist taking orders for his new book.

Bruised ego fan club versus AnonyMint.

All on board here and now.

I'll be waiting for the proofs. Dish it out and I can dish it right back at you.
4791  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 09, 2015, 01:36:53 AM
other than some misleading statements about his past legal troubles

Prove he has committed a crime. If there is a case with public evidence then that should be trivially easy.

(this exercise will prove you are making slanderous statement above)

afterall Ive already proved he is not allowed to be wrong here about his prediction style.

You didn't prove anything by presenting 2 samples of noise and constructing a strawman as was explained to you ad nauseum up thread. You continue to have bruised ego and so I am in your shit list.

Objectivity much.

Discussed yes. Proven no. Smooth needs to also prove.
4792  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 09, 2015, 01:27:34 AM
There appears to be a lot of banter on this thread lately.

I suggest some people need to take a break from the "internets"...

 Roll Eyes




Relax folks internets is RISKY BUSINESS...



Because boys become men...



So the only guiding rule is...



So please don't any of this serious boys we are still just only (beyond middle age!) men...

Quote from: Wikipedia
In law, a conviction is the verdict that results when a court of law finds a defendant guilty of a crime.

Who would've fathomed that definition of "conviction" requires not just any court, but a lawful court.  Shocked Oh my fucking Lord of Dangling Balls I am shocked! Really courts have to be lawful in order for there to be a conviction? Are you sure? That is ludicrous. How could we ever have any convictions if that is the case! Wikipedia has to be in error.

Quote from: Wikipedia
An error which results in the conviction of an innocent person is known as a miscarriage of justice

There is your proof Wikipedia is derelict! How can an inanimate object receive a fetal extraction by suction apparatus.

Everyone knows the correct term is 'assfucked' or when in the presence of your grandmother 'anally-violated'.
4793  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 09, 2015, 12:19:03 AM
smooth I'd really like for you to prove to me that Armstrong is a fraud. Not some equivocal yadayada. Please bring the smoking gun. I'd honestly really appreciate it if you could dig up unequivocal proof that he committed a crime and/or is a fraud in his current endeavors.

I have thus challenged you. As you challenged me earlier on the issue of the definition of "convicted". You can choose to ignore if you are not up for the challenge.


Yes I just stole time from you.

I am encouraging you to waste as much time as possible doing research for me that I do not have time to do. But really useful research not just some yadayada piling opinion on top of useless opinion.
4794  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 08, 2015, 11:34:57 PM
smooth is going to have a lot of fun attackingenforcing accuracy on Ion. Prepare your popcorn.
4795  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 08, 2015, 11:15:31 PM
Again that is not the same as being able to put you on ignore, not see your posts, and not allow you to see my posts which is what I would want from an ignore button.

Here's a suggestion: make your own forum.

generalizethis and you seem to have the same fault of intermittent selective reading comprehension. I had already said it was your idea to use ignore, not mine and I wasn't requesting such as a feature. I wrote that maybe I just needed to write less on the forums.

But I wasn't really writing about requesting a better ignore feature, you suggested it. I was trying to follow up your olive branch with a sincere statement. So sincerely I said I think we don't mesh. And I wished you well in what ever works for you. I explained that I think it is style difference and thus not insulting you. And even up thread, I wrote that others who have worked with you may not have the same frustrating experience I have had.



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Btw, you asked me why I was defending Armstrong, and now you are defending generalizethis and AltcoinUK. But seems altcoinUK and I don't have a problem (Btw he insulted me first but why are we arguing about that?! there you go again with the accuracy thing)

And I'm not attacking anyone -- including you or Armstrong -- nor do I care what you say to generalizethis and AltcoinUK.

I disagree.


I'm reporting the facts accurately about Armstrong.

That will be impossible because he was never allowed to present the evidence at a public hearing, thus the truth is not available to you. If you are at all interested in accuracy, you will need to accept this fundamental fact.

Sorry smooth. Facts are facts.

Also, when I get a chance I will be going through your last post about Armstrong and pointing out, section by section, the same sorts of half-truths, spin, and distortions you have been copying from his blog as he desperately tries to avoid any responsibility whatsoever for his unfortunate experience with the legal system, while turning every opportunity to reflect on his mistakes into an opportunity to play martyr and self-promote. There is a definite pattern emerging. If that distresses you, I suggest signing off now.

There certainly is a pattern emerging. But it is about you.

It really saddens me that Republic Bank was illegally taking his clients' funds and using them, he never approved of this, Republic Bank admitted their crime, Armstrong was not prosecuted for the originally alleged crimes, and the entire thing ended up being vindicated, yet you are still on a vendetta to pile inaccuracies on top of inaccuracies.

Japan's government raised this ruckus and it is probably because he had advised the $trillion postal fund to hedge against the coming collapse but this was prevented by the japanese government and the postal fund went bankrupt (long after Armstrong was gone and because they didn't hedge). So there was still animosity for him advising against the LDP party. It dominoed from there because the NY Bankers got caught with their pants down using Armstrong's clients funds in overnight accounts without his permission, so they had to blame Armstrong. They accused him of not having the funds in segregated accounts, but he did. Republic Bank was the one committing the crime and even ended up admitting it years later, thus vindicating Armstrong.

I'd love to see you and Armstrong in a live debate. I would pay money for that. And I'd want video.
4796  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: October 08, 2015, 11:01:49 PM
I think it's the rise and fall of islamic empires, I found it interesting how it is rising as the west declines 2016 - 2021

You caused me to realize that "empires" is the key word, and not economy. The (confidence in the) empire of Islam is increasing, not necessarily the economy of Islamic peoples or nations. The implication is it would rise with the War Cycle if not corresponding to an economic gain, because in this case increasing Islamic empire requires some conquering of the Western empire for the gain.
4797  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 08, 2015, 10:42:59 PM
because your style drags me down.

There's an app for that:



It has a bug. It displays your posts. And it displays my posts to you.

When I press "ignore" I really want it all to disappear.

This one may be more helpful:



As an extra special bonus it hides generalizethis, altcoinUK and all the other people you can't resist insulting while simultaneously volunteering to spend your time replying to them.

Again that is not the same as being able to put you on ignore, not see your posts, and not allow you to see my posts which is what I would want from an ignore button.

But I wasn't really writing about requesting a better ignore feature, you suggested it. I was trying to follow up your olive branch with a sincere statement. So sincerely I said I think we don't mesh. And I wished you well in what ever works for you. I explained that I think it is style difference and thus not insulting you. And even up thread, I wrote that others who have worked with you may not have the same frustrating experience I have had.

Btw, you asked me why I was defending Armstrong, and now you are defending generalizethis and AltcoinUK. But seems altcoinUK and I don't have a problem (Btw he insulted me first but why are we arguing about that?! there you go again with the accuracy thing)

As it comes right down to it, you've just explained why you attacked me in this thread. Because you felt I was attacking generalizethis and altcoinUK.

Okay enforcer. But why attack Armstrong? Because he is not here to defend himself?

The ethics.

I don't know smooth. I wish you the best. And this I really want to end. We don't mesh.
4798  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 08, 2015, 10:25:33 PM
because your style drags me down.

There's an app for that:



It has a bug. It displays your posts. And it displays my posts to you.

When I press "ignore" I really want it all to disappear.
4799  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 08, 2015, 10:16:31 PM
Smooth "wrongful conviction" is a politically incorrect form of "superficial conviction" aka "unaccomplished acquittal" aka "unintended collateral damage" otherwise referred to as "full metal jacket in a condom". (this is humor)

As I promised, here is a summary of Armstrong's case:

http://bangkokbusinessbrief.com/2012/10/martin-armstrong-fraud-or-genius/

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Martin Armstrong: Fraud or Genius?
Published: 26/10/2012 at 3:31 PM
Category: Business Services
Tag: Bangkok

By Natalie Scarr

He has been described as a genius, a rogue, the world’s best economist, a US government scapegoat, a financial oracle and a criminal. But who and what is the real Martin Armstrong? The basic facts in his own words are clear cut enough – born in New Jersey 63 years ago, the financier went onto become the world’s highest paid and most revered economist. He was then charged with fraud in 1999 and not convicted. Instead he was held in contempt of court and because of that, not guilty, was held for seven years in a New York federal prison in one of the longest contempt of court cases in history.

In the end, the government dropped all the original allegations if he would plead to a simple conspiracy whereas he says it was Republic National Bank/HSBC that had taken money from his accounts, and had Armstrong read a scripted plea stating that he had promised note holders that all money would be held “separate and segregated from Republic’s own accounts and would not be available to Republic for its own benefit.” Republic pled criminally guilty and received full immunity provided they returned all the money they had taken. HSBC applied and received a lifetime gag order on Armstrong to try to prevent him from revealing the truth about what had taken place.

We met with the American financier who will be arriving in Bangkok for the World Economic Conference on November 2nd and 3rd at the Grand Hyatt Erawan – to hear his story, in his words. And what an interesting story it is.

The Case

First off Martin says that the case against him that led to his incarceration is so strange and mystifying it’s almost laughable. And being the kind of affable guy that he is – his charming New Jersey accent swinging across his animated conversations – he does laugh. But with what he has been though, it takes a certain kind of person to be that way.

A self-made millionaire as teen thanks to a rare coin collection, by 21 he had his own store and also an interest in studying historical gold prices. While in his twenties, through his own research he found that, on average there had been a panic in the global economy every 8.6 years – a finding that was to be instrumental in his career. In the early seventies Martin became a trader and dealer in gold – compiling forecasts about commodities and currencies that he then sent onto clients.  His success in this area led to his primary business becoming forecasting.

Using the seemingly magical number of pi, after realising that the 8.6 year cycle he’d discovered was exactly pi times one thousand, he was able to predict future significant events in the markets. These included the Nikkei peak before the crash in December 1989 and the S&P high in 1998. He called his new strategy the ‘Pi-cycle Model’ and it led to him being named the Economist of the Decade by Equity magazine as well as so respected in Japan, they knew him simply as Mr Yen. This capability also made him the highest paid advisor in the world.

Martin also became world renowned when he created the world’s first computer system that correlates the entire world economy and tracks all movements – every day of the year. He developed this mega-computer structure costing hundreds of millions of his own money – conducting 16 trillion calculations per second – as a way to get around human opinion and consequently possible error in forecasting. By 1999, after advising governments internationally including in China and Japan, Martin released a report on the number pi and its implications for his forecasting- astounding the world. Even the Thailand share market and economy has followed his model published in 1979 with the peaks and lows right on time.

In this same year the financial magnate suddenly found charges of defrauding Japanese investors, where he was working at the time, levelled at him, a very strange inquiry from the Japanese government was made that was an amazing mistake.  There are some who believe this was no mistake and was retaliation for his forecast that the Liberal Democratic Party would lose political power in Japan and that the nation was in a long-Depression that would not bottom for 23 to 26 years from 1989 (2013 to 2016).

“The Japanese government sent a letter to the Federal Reserve asking to confirm I had ten billion dollars in cash at the Martin Armstrong - Investment GuruRepublic Bank. Then Republic, owned by HSBC, panics because I only had one billion with them, not ten and steals the one billion dollars. They then went to the US government and said I was in a conspiracy with their employees and they didn’t know about it. The government goes back to the Japanese government, who then apologises and says it was a mistake – it was one billion not ten.I have this in writing from the Japanese government,” Martin explains. “The ongoing debate is whether the Japanese government did it intentionally. By then, Republic/HSBC already stole the billion dollars so they had to plead guilty and pay back all the money – butI have no restitution.  Then HSBC moved in court to permanently gag me from ever telling the truth to save their reputation.”

At this point the financier, who was dumbfounded by the situation, says the holes in the case against him were immediately obvious.
“The charges were that I conspired with Republic Bank’s own employees to hide the losses that they created, from the Japanese.  The whole idea that I am hiding losses from themis predicated upon the idea that they were Japanese accounts. But they were my own accounts – so why would I be helping Republic Bank to hide the losses from myself?”

Martin explains that he aggressively fought the charges, hiring three law firms, but the specific and strange circumstances surrounding the trial blocked his defence.
“The Associated Press on April 27, 2000 wrote an article saying it was an extraordinary close-court proceeding because they threw out all the media – something illegal. And they ended the article with, ‘I wonder if he can get a fair trial in New York City?’”

Held In Contempt of Court

To avoid a potentially damning trial for the bank, this is where the contempt of court situation arose. And why some believe Armstrong was charged and jailed because of the length of time he was held, but this is not the case he says.
“To prevent a trial they created a contempt of court situation – which is not a crime. A judge can say, ‘I think you should do this and I’m going to put you in jail until you do it.’ The judge directed me to turn over assets and the court officer Tancred Shiavoni further demanded my computer model source be turned over to the court as well. They claimed this was in case I owed something upon conviction but in the end I didn’t owe anything – the bank did.
“And because it’s not a ‘crime’ and the judge is not ‘punishing’ you, you are not entitled to lawyers or a trial. They kept me in jail for seven years for assets that maybe I might owe, but didn’t at the end of the day. It shows the United States screams about human rights against countries like China, but it abuses the rights of individuals pretending they are imprisoning you for life without a crime.”

During court proceedings Martin says all kinds of sensational claims were made against him – from making an amazing midnight escape carrying important documents from his office chased by guards, to the fact he was told all his defence documents were destroyed in the World Trade Towers after 9/11 to prevent him from defending himself. But he believes the reason behind his public attack is simple.

“They wouldn’t have done to me what they did unless my economic model was correct. After it accurately predicted the collapse of Russia in 1998 and that was covered by the London Financial Times, they wanted my model and said it had geopolitical significance.”

Jail wasn’t an easy ride either. Housed in a federal New York City prison usually used for holding people during their trials, Martin survived a brutal attack from another inmate, endured solitary confinement and had no idea about his release date since it could be for life at the judge’s discretion.
“The crazy thing is, I’m high profile and the press was always there, but how many more people have had this happen to them that no one’s heard of? They couldn’t sweep me completely underneath the rug – but they gave it a damn good shot. Fighting back kept me going.”

Kept from his family, the economist took to an antiquated typewriter to keep writing up his financial forecasts while confined  – he even hand drew his graphs to be sent out to his scores of fans worldwide. The government could not stop him from writing – all they could do is say he was not allowed to make money – so he did it for free. After seven long years, Martin finally got a reprieve.
“The only reason I was released is because we got the case to the Supreme Court and they asked the prosecutors, why is this man in prison? There were three postponements and then they finally just released me to prevent the Supreme Court from ruling and amazingly because it was decided that the presiding judge had dementia after being appointed to the court in 1971 by Richard Nixon. Unfortunately, a judge is for life and nobody can remove him even when he is too old to drive a car.”

Just as Popular as Ever

Despite the contempt of court saga, he remains hugely popular and has been working non-stop since his release.
“After everything that has happened to me, in the big crash of 2007 I get calls from the house Financial Services Committee asking for my assistance because I was not a banker and had no self-interest in explaining how the markets really collapsed. I still go down to US congress today and meet behind closed doors. The way I’m introduced on Capitol Hill is, ‘This is the man with the economic model they are trying to suppress.’
“Because of my experience and contacts worldwide, they all still read what I write and follow the forecasts because everyone knows they are at least independent. We ended up with a 600,000 readership for my work; New York Times is only 800,000.”

Martin is now in Singapore ahead of his appearance in Bangkok, where he will headline the World Economic Forum, something he is looking forward to. But his trip also hints at much more, he says.
“The fact I’m here proves that I didn’t owe anything because if I had you cannot leave America till you pay everything. They don’t want me telling the truth about them. Nonetheless, the world has to know about the corruption that is threatening the entire world economy. Corruption is not limited to China. It is very much alive and well in New York City.”

To prove his point, Martin is now taking those who charged him through legal proceedings to prove their wrong doing and his innocence – and aims to do this in early 2013.
“It’s not over until the fat lady sings,” he says. “I’m fighting until it comes out that they never had evidence, I never did anything therefore they have to overturn everything against me and admit it was a mistake.”

So how did the father-of-two make it through his persecution and controversy – which continues till today?

‘I don’t cling to anything in life; I’ve always been that way. If you are going to worry about dying you aren’t going to experience life. That’s why the court case and government couldn’t break me. I’m not going to hide in a corner – that’s not living to me.”

Who is the Man Behind the Model?

The billionaire today lives simply, as he always has, and enjoys travelling, history, good food and great drinks. He’s disarming and improbably quick-minded – and has the talent to speak on any given financial topic for days.
But what about the man behind the model?
“I guess to describe myself I’d say… I’m fearless. I say things how they are. I’m a libertarian. I don’t see the government as a benevolent grandfather; I know they have self-interest. And I believe in human rights.
“I have to look at myself in the mirror every day. If I don’t do something that I feel is worthy then I don’t look at myself in a good light. I will always stand up and say I won’t do something wrong because it would insult my morals.”

Having achieved career highlights that people can only dream of and pioneered such unique creations as the pi-cycle model and computer system tracking the world economies, he amazingly remains self-deprecatingly humble. When quizzed for his proudest moment in his career he is silent for a long time.
“I guess my proudest moment was when Milton Freedman (famous economist and statistician) came to my lecture in Chicago and said that was the greatest speech he’d ever heard. I was shocked.”

He also completely believes in the legitimacy of his ‘Pi-cycle model,’ which can predict down to the day the peaks and troughs of the global economy.
“It operates amazingly. Even predicting the exact day of the real estate market high in the US in 2007. It can’t be a coincidence – there are too many things right down to the day. It offends some people because if there is a cycle that exists it might mean that somehow you are predetermined. That’s not the case. We all have our own cycles, collectively that pi model always works but it’s not always the same people doing the same thing at the same time.”

And when asked about Thailand’s economy specifically the financier says the South-East Asia powerhouse follows his model exactly.
“I have just published my findings on Thailand’s economy on my website and we will discuss it at Bangkok’s WEC in November. I show how the Thailand economy has followed that pi-cycle perfectly. The high of 94 – it’s all there. The Pi model shows that capital will concentrate and because it’s global it means that it is specific to the area. When US goes up, Thailand will go down – it’s all relative.”

So with everything taken into account, does he also believe he is the genius so many claim he is? For the first time in the interview he is shy.
“A psychiatrist friend of mine told me I think dynamically – not everyone thinks the same.  I connect all the dots to get the big picture. Which makes me more suited to being an international advisor- but does it make me a genius? I don’t think so,” he grins.

Fittingly, Martin is also currently the subject of a documentary being shot by famous videographer Marcus Vetter entitled, The Forecaster.
“Marcus felt my story should be told. They wanted to show I’m the guy that stood up against the New York banks and all the corruption. They want to show the truth. ”

Some more information here:

http://economicedge.blogspot.com/2009/04/martin-armstrong-making-his-own-case.html
4800  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 08, 2015, 09:55:51 PM
So TBTB_need_war, are you working on your altcoin singlehandedly or are there other developers?

No one is working on it right now.

There have been others that offered to work on it. But let me tell you this. Really to get a rudimentary thing out the door, you probably better to have one guy just get that sucker done and then others can jump in after you get that proof-of-concept shipped. Too many brand new cooks just seems to slow everything down. Especially when they haven't worked with each other in the past.

But if you have a core dev who can't really work effectively then nothing is going to happen.

I'd prefer we not talk about that in this thread. Anyone can PM me if it is really important. Bottom line is I already wrote I am royally fucked if I don't have stabilized health within weeks. I mean it. And I am definitely feeling extremely fraught or stressed about that harsh reality.

I've replied to smooth's olive branch (which was difficult to figure out how to correctly articulate) and if after any other posts I had queued up are done and a little sleep then maybe I might be working. Any further discussion of this not in this thread please. Thanks.
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