What is a 'launch'? What is a 'fork', in the absence of working software, are all now in alice in worderland??

The 'fork' never took place oct25, no working software in place at time of 'fork', a snap-shot and logging a block number is not a fork.

The 'launch' actually the 4th deadline to come&go since 'fork', 3 hours ago new code released, and it has failed.

WRT to btg.suprnova.cc they have turned off the testnet until there is working code, they're attempting to download a working block-chain, but it may take a week, as there are no seed-nodes in chainparamseeds.h. ( again dev's don't care, or are trying to slow down the easy mining to the public )

Pool.GOLD is still running the scammy TESTNET. It has been running 3+ weeks, and its re-directing +1Million sols/sec of equihash to profitable z-coins.

BRAVO for btg.suprnova.cc for not ripping off their customers, I agree there should be NO mining of BTG until a 100% block-chain exists, and that may take a very long time.

My chain is now 98% and its been running +7 days, a very slow process.

Nothing is harmed, except 'trader morons' losing lots of money, buying BCH at $2500, only for it to fall back to $600 ( most shit-alt coin faux trade at 10% of mother coin ), think zcash/zen, btc/bch, eth/eth-classic, ....

The 'drama' has MADE a press news, everybody is talking about crypto's, so that is good I guess,

BCH is what it is, just another scam shit-coin clone, but with really good marketing, not unlike the fuck-coin BTG aka bitcoin-gold

There is NO way to regulate this shit, thank god, I'm sure satoshi expected this, its open-source, this is the nature of the beast

Best thing for smart people is to IGNORE the price, just hold your BTC in cold storage, and NOT play the game,

IF U play the game, ALL ORCHESTRATED by scammers, U will lose your BTC.

"BTG BITCOIN-GOLD Market Cap Overtakes Bitcoin" ( see You can post anything, but should it be true? )

https://coinmarketcap.com/coins/

Can U check cap's before you post assertions?

No it hasn't

 2    
Ethereum    $29,520,467,780    $308.51    $1,548,800,000    95,687,231 ETH    -2.71%    sparkline
3    
Bitcoin Cash    $24,197,580,008    $1440.33    $8,321,760,000    16,800,025 BCH    9.28%    sparkline

ETH is some $5 B more than BCH, why  do U misrepresent?

ETH is just as much of a over-hyped shit-coin as bch, ... that part I agree.

Perhaps it's in ETH's interest to destroy BTC, to put ETH in front?

The deal here is there are lots of PLAYERS and they all want to be king,

Like asshole "Peter Theil" (paypal) always says "The game is to have a monopoly, to OWN IT ALL"

There are ton's of solo miners already ready to go, scammy/sammy-007 has been selling proxy's for weeks, a lot of people are trying to pry into the scam, all along BTG has said they will not allow 'solo mining' they want all mining directed through their scam pool 'POOL.GOLD'

Given the fact that the main-net release has no seed-nodes in chainparam.h, these people have want to make sure that only insiders are mining first week, and a difficulty of 'one' means you can mine with an iPhone

U understand that pool.gold has been redirecting hash at 1Million sols/sec for the past 3 1/2 weeks? Right all in the name of 'testnet', thats over $1k USD/day of zencash when redirected to any 'z' currency.

For the past 3 days btg.suprnova.cc ran the testnet too, but they told their users it was a waste of time, now they have stopped the testnet until there is a working main-net.

NO block-chain, NO software


If you don't have a 100% block-chain, U can't mine, as "GetblockTemplate" doesn't work without a complete chain.

There is no complete chain, there never was, I have been running 'main-net' for 3+ weeks, and my most recent attempt to build a block-chain, I'm now at 98% and its taken a week, I had to hack the hell out of the code to get this far. ( I have 50mb fiber, and super high-end tech )

It's all interesting for me, I was working on my own alt-shit coin, I have learned a lot during the last month of fucking around with BTG, and what I have learned is that I no longer really think I want to make my own coin, as its clearly bullshit.

There are now some +2,000 of these bitcoin clone shit-coins, and they're all the same, I  have lots of ideas, but nobody cares about software or tech, its like 99% of the community is these 'get rich quick' day-trading token morons. U can't escape them.

Same here with BTG, total fucking klusterfuck, but NOBODY cares, because the price is HIGH, and its been traded on YOBIT.NET (russians) for a month.

Nobody cares as long as people are making money, but SOMEBODY lost a lot of bitcoins on this scam, as you had to PAY in bitcoins, to BUY the shit-coins to trade.

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For those new to the scam, BTG just released their 'mainnet' some two hours ago, github.com/btcgpu
check out the 'issues' and NOTE some are terrible, but the consistent is that the DEVS always ignore the problems, and actually delete&ban people who report bugs, now think about that? IS GITHUB.COM in on this scam? Is github.com now a site for scams?

Please note this all started a month ago, because exchanges refused to list BTG unless there was code 'so the bulgarians' tossed some shit-code up on github

cannot compile 15.0.1 on Ubuntu 16.04
#171 opened 13 minutes ago by suprnurd
Launching a Pool: ./bgoldd does nothing.
#170 opened 38 minutes ago by ICOBOXER
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Light wallet before mainnet launch
#164 opened 21 hours ago by evadogstar
6
Add BTG to coinbase and korbit
#161 opened 2 days ago by avinash173
PROCESSMESSAGE: INVALID MESSAGESTAR Error ? Spam or Issue?

Seriously?? What R U watching for? What are you waiting for?

Seems to be a passive position to take??

U can't mine when there is NO block-chain,

No working software

The 'testnet' is just redirection of millions of sols/sec to other equihash currency, .... all is a scam.

Even in the past two hours btg.suprnova.cc has suspended the testnet until there is working software and a block-chain.

https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues

As expected the software was NEVER tested for 'main-net', and released before it was ready,

3 weeks ago 'fork' came & went, and 4 deadlines came&went,

Now some 2 hours ago main-net was released, slowly people are trying to build the release, only to find it will not compile, and those who get it to compile find that it crashes and generates tons of errors,

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Well I have been hacking this software for a month now, and my copy is stable and my block-chain is now at 98% complete, I will report probably in 8 hours whether any blocks are to be found, I'm quite suspicious that glue is working.

It should be very interesting to know WHEN btg.suprnova.cc will have their block-chain 100% downloaded, if they just built the main-net an hour ago, like everybody else, then it could be 10+ days, ...

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The most PISS POOR LAUNCH in human history


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cannot compile 15.0.1 on Ubuntu 16.04
#171 opened 13 minutes ago by suprnurd

// most people can't compile, because there are no readme, the dev's are lazy and english is not their native language

Launching a Pool: ./bgoldd does nothing.
#170 opened 38 minutes ago by ICOBOXER
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// this has been the crux all along, it does nothing, because the devs don't know C++

Light wallet before mainnet launch
#164 opened 21 hours ago by evadogstar
6

Add BTG to coinbase and korbit
#161 opened 2 days ago by avinash173
PROCESSMESSAGE: INVALID MESSAGESTAR Error ? Spam or Issue?
// this last problem reported some two days ago has been totally ignored by 'devs', very serious, and complete lack of interest, and no intention of delivering working software

Not much has changed

"Launch" time came and went an hour ago, but nothing really changed,

btg.suprnova.cc stopped the testnet and is waiting for the blockchain to download, may take 4-5 days,

pool.gold is still running 'testnet' with no plans of running main-net, why should they? For 3+ weeks they have been redirection Millions of sol's / sec of equihash mining to other pools, as idiots run their 'testnet'.


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Source has many problems, there are no seed nodes in chainparams.cpp, this is bad, it means that they  really don't want people other than insiders to build a block chain.

In my own personal use, I have been downloading the block chain for a week now as I patched the source some 3-4 weeks ago to run in mainnet, I have 50mbs fiber and over a week, I'm now only at 95% on the blockchain download.

It's slow as all the bitcoin blocks must be converted and modified, and reformatted, its like just a few blocks per second, once you get past 100,000

The limitation seems to be nodes, its going to take a awhile before this thing is running, it appears that pool.gold has too much of a good thing, why shut down testnet? Let it run

Btg.Suprnova.cc did the right thing, the launch came&went time to run main-net, if it doesn't work, then suprnova.cc is NOT going to let its customers waste their hash on bullshit.

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Nothing is working, as always the klusterfuck known as bTG continues

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I wrote tested the solo miners some 4 weeks ago, just waiting for a real block-chain, as you all know, until the blockchain is 100% I can't do a 'getblocktemplate' which means no solo mining

Not sure how long it will take suprnova.cc to get a blockchain, the problem isn't bandwidth or cpu power, its lack of seed nodes, and most nodes restrict

Very few people actually download the github.com/btcgpu core software and run it, this is a big problem, majority of people just pool mine, or masturbate as day traders; Software people are very few

51% of the kittens are not in control

mining is the control vector, if you don't understand that then you don't understand btc

miners are just random ppl running mining hw, so long as +51% are not concerted then its anarchy

Yes, china has +80% of mining, but chinese will back stab each other in a second for a one-yuan, there are 1,000's of miners in china, and they're all competing, and the GOV has no power over them,

Even BITMAIN which produces the majority of mining hw, they don't have control over the miners and what they choose to mine,

It's a klusterfuck by design,

Why do you question miners controlling BTC? R U one of the assholes trying to change the way things have worked 8+ years?

ethereum is essentially controlled by two guys, one of them a little man-child geek, who thinks he can adjust the source as he wishes to decide who wins & loses in his 'ethereum' world, nobody is going to fall for that game.

BTC is consensus, as dreamed by Satoshi, likened to herding millions of kittens in space.

BCH NYA are all attempts by GOV/BIG BIZ to control BTC

For now the little people, the kittens remain in control

Note if the assholes can't take over by political means, then they will use GOV, and control BTC by brute force, well at least they will try,


For now, BTC is to important to be controlled by the 'kittens' so thinks BIG-GOV-INC

Satoshi was an anarchist, he hated GOV, and wanted the kittens to have their own banks, and their own money.

Today's money is DEBT, which is slavery

BTC is freedom where every man-cat knows what he owns, and is in debt to no asshole or GOV.

That's not how it works, if CHINA quit mining, and they will not, then the west would take up the slack, and japan, singapore, ...

This is a MYTH that they shut anything down, what CHINA did is BAN BULLSHIT 'tokens' and SHIT-COINS sold to the public.

CHINA never banned mining, they just banned people pulling BTG out of their ass and selling it on exchanges, thats why BTG got moved to BULGARIA, and got listed on yobit.net, cuz in aug2017 they as a shit-coin scam got kicked out of  china.

But mining is JUST fine, its a large industry backed by the richest people in china, ... it ain't going away,

China GOV just wants to protect the people from FRAUD thats why the cracked down on shit-coins, and tokens.

U got to admit that these people take the crypto SCAM to the next level

The 'fork' was just a date in time and a block on BTC that came and went,

Now the launch once again, is just a date in time, with no software, but that's ok, cuz the pools can  keep running that 'testnet'.

Pool.GOLD has been running testnet and re-directing 1000 K Sols/sec for 3+ weeks, that's $1,000/day if you target the sols to Zencash or Zcash, not bad racket,

Now btg.suprnova.cc has joine the racket and getting 1000 Million-Million sols/sec, I some how doubt that number, but two two days suprnova.cc has not fixed this number, and there are pools there with +100M sols/sec running on this 'testnet'

Insanity has no bounds

It's clear that there is client software out there feeding these testnet pools lots shit, like reporting 100Millions sols/sec, hell the entire hash on zencash at any given time is like 600K sols/sec

One 1070 gpu card is like 450 sols/sec, so a 1 million sols/sec is 2222 GPUS, but 1 trillion sols/sec as reported on suprnova.cc is 22 billion gpus, that 3 gpus for everybody on earth that be mining at btg.suprnova.cc

Who care if there is no software right? The price will only GO UP

Trouble of course without software there is no transactions, or exit/entrance only funny accounting at the exchanges.

Go to github.com/btcgpu, click on issues, one of the issues is 'wallets', in that thread they list two public sites that lets u generate wallets and keys offline, and it works.

Of course u can also download the software, and remove two lines in the bgold-daemon.cpp, that disable main-net, then recompile, and run as mainnet, then just do a 'getnewaddress'

It's all good if you just take the time to learn.

Probably worse than negative, I calculated earlier that a 1070 mining BTG would yield about 0.0000005 BTG's per day, that worked out to be about one penny at current price of $400 USD.

Mining BTG will never be profitable for anyone,

BTG is only profitable for the scammers who created the shit-coin, and made the ICO, and pre-mined.

A penny a day mining equihash?

U decide zencash at $1.50/day, or BTG for  a penny a day, the choice is yours.

IMHO when 99% of moron-miners are on BTG the next month the difficulty for most of our z-coins might plummet???

YEAH

Agree 100% the post was in reference to the 100 posts a day here entitled "How do I mine on one card"

The answer as you point out is that you don't.

Where I live $15/day is more than an electrician who works 12hrs/day makes, ... so having 1060-3 rigs works just fine for me,

I suspect in USA, U need six Vega-56 to generate a decent return, your 20k sols/sec would make me $150/day, that would be an insane amount of money

But for you it probably means nothing, When I travel in USA I find it costs $500/day to live like a pauper, where I live $5/day is a comfortable life.

Again the point of the post was about using a CPU to mine with one card,

Right there do U read? Where I live its $600 for a 1070, $1,000 was the price for a single-miner, assuming $400 for power-supply, cpu, mobo, box, and monitor  you know system cost $400, and GPU card cost 600 = $1,000

The point was that a single card would only net you about $1.50/day

Some people seem to think that people are getting rich doing this hobby.


YEP I know about NEWEGG & AMAZON, I can buy the HW  cheap, but the shipping & custom taxes are $500 on top of the price, I pretty much have to buy chinese clones where I live, not a problem, they're cheap and reliable,

All this shit is made in ASIA any way, your not really getting much in USA, if I wanted a good price I just go to Hong-Kong and go shopping on the weekend

Prices are pretty much same same

1060-3 $200
1060-6 $300

1070 $600

1080 $1,000

Fuck windows & amd

Just wanted to clarify that they don't

Turn $1k into $1/day is great profit, how can you say its not?

The point my friend, is the bots generate a dozen of these 'how do I mine with one card questions per day", I just thought to present it from a different point of view,

Of course I concur, you must invest in rigs, my cost is about $1,000 per rig, and they pay about $15/day, with $3/day costs, so its about 3 month payback per rig, $12/day per rig is about $350/month, where I live that's twice the per diem wage,

My point was that its NOT worth your time to mine one card, I'm glad u agree

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Your rig cost is $7k, my rig cost is $1k, my limitation is about 2kh on a 24 clock, above that the electric authority's put me in next tier, don't want to go there, I see about 500 watts per rig, 4 rigs is my optimum for about 8k sols/sec, I can buy 1060-3's cheap, the VEGA is astronomically expensive, $1500 each where I live, So your rig would cost me over $10k

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Remember we were talking about "MINING with ONE GPU here", right?

Is it really true that your six vega-56 get 22k sols/sec are you talking equihash ?

Personally I don't like AMD, quit using them years ago, I still have some laying around, but now I only buy nvidia, I prefer CUDA support for ML work, I prefer the CUDA library, I don't like AMD software for GPU coding

light wallet, secure offline generation of keys

btgwallet.online

mybtgwallet.com

Banks have a cozy deal, money is free

BTC U must mine or work/purchase, and can't pull it out of your ass.

Why would a banker want to change his model of biz?

BTC will replace banks, because little people will quit using banks.

The banker system is one of 'debt' where all people are slaves to the bank, why would they give up that relationship to the little people, the slaves.

Free men owning bitcoin, might give the slaves new ideas

Debt Slaves are slaves