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481  Economy / Economics / Re: If the global economy collapses what's the first thing you do? on: November 05, 2023, 09:00:02 AM
Measuring investor sentiment when it comes to cryptocurrencies is very complicated especially now that people have a tendency to say one thing but act the opposite regarding investments, especially when prices fall especially if the global economy crashes and it's even sadder. If we see to,many financial professionals often compare Bitcoin to precious metals such as gold, silver, and platinum if Bitcoin has disappeared. But I don't think that will happen and it's very tempting to book profits.
There will always be comparisons between Bitcoin and other precious metal assets among many people, especially since they are already familiar with precious metals than Bitcoin. But Bitcoin is able to surpass any precious metal in the not too distant future, both in terms of price and in terms of popularity, so that now it is very difficult for Bitcoin to disappear in the minds of many people and some even think it will always be there forever. So there is no need to think about complicated sentiments because the purpose of getting to know Bitcoin is for financial freedom through profits that can be achieved by investors or everyone who believes in Bitcoin.
482  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the last 5 years compare to now on: November 05, 2023, 08:45:57 AM
They are big difference comparing in five good year's which is coming with big hugs amount of return investment profits that always cause by Bitcoin halving. When the price of Bitcoin keep appreciate and get more scarce by miner reduction.
There is a very big difference between five years ago and now, because it is quite visible in terms of price and many people's assessment of Bitcoin has also changed a lot. Now there are more and more Bitcoin enthusiasts and the level of stability of the price of Bitcoin itself is also very visible, so things like adoption in several countries by shop or restaurant owners are also starting to be seen, which is also a difference in Bitcoin over the last five years. And other new things may still appear in Bitcoin for the next five years.
483  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Tiktok shop tutup apa ekonomi akan berubah ? on: November 04, 2023, 02:10:33 PM
Ya... ekonomi pasti berubah meskipun toko tiktok dibuka maupun ditutup.
Karna pada dasarnya ekonomi lokal maupun global pasti selalu berubah, namun perlu diingat bahwa perubahan itu ada yang baik ada pula yang buruk, signifikan kah atau tidak, yang jelas pasti selalu "berubah". Grin
Jika kita berujuk pada pertanyaan yang ada didalam topik ini, tentu perubahan yang akan lebih signifikan terjadi adalah di sektor para pedagang tertentu saja om, contohnya pada para pedagang yang tidak mengandalkan tiktok shop ketika mempromosikan barang dagangannya om. Meskipun sebagian para pedagang juga melakukan promosi lewat platform lain seperti shopee dan juga instagram dalam menarik para pelanggan barunya om, tetapi perubahan yang lebih buruk juga tidak akan langsung dialami oleh para pengguna Tiktok shop apabila mereka masih bisa memanfaatkan platform lainnya untuk berdagang.

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Biasanya ekonomi selalu berhubungan erat dengan perubahan. Ekonomi mempertimbangkan perubahan dalam tingkat produksi, inflasi, permintaan, dan faktor-faktor lain yang memengaruhi aktivitas ekonomi. Perubahan ekonomi, seperti fluktuasi siklus ekonomi, perubahan dalam kebijakan pemerintah, dan perubahan teknologi, adalah subjek penting dalam studi ekonomi.
Perubahan di sektor ekonomi memang dapat dipicu oleh banyak halnya om, dan beberapa diantaranya adalah seperti yang om sebutkan itu. Namun ada juga pemicu lainnya yang dapat merubah kondisi ekonomi di berbagai bidang seperti halnya perang, kekacauan di sektor politik dan juga lewat kurangnya sumber daya alam yang biasanya dipakai sebagai bahan mentah produksi oleh banyak perusahaan dan pabrik di suatu negara. Namun pada kesempatan ini, kita hanya membicarakan tentang lapak atau lahan tempat perdagangan seperti Tiktok shop om yang hanya mempengaruhi perubahan pada sebagian para pedagang yang menggunakan platform tersebut.
484  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull season started? on: November 04, 2023, 01:50:46 PM
Your right. When the bull run comes it will be obvious and we wont even expect it. I see coming very soon. All of this is only but speculations, now we are seeing the upside of Bitcoin it may look like a bull, but the price might go down so what we will call it then. The situation we are now is like a temptation for us to sell our Bitcoin. Only traders or people who are in for the short term profit will accept the it as a bull run and plan to sell. Patience is the key, if unknowingly this is a bull run i wont be in a haste.
In selling Bitcoin, sometimes there is no need to rush, even though buying Bitcoin at the price we want requires a little hasty effort, because everyone can also enjoy the bull conditions quite well and make a profit at a certain level. But this year cannot be said to be bull at all because the increase that has occurred so far is only in the form of improvements in the price of Bitcoin due to the large number of buyers in the market which can increase volatility in the price of Bitcoin itself.
485  Economy / Economics / Re: Is academic pursues enough to get incomes? on: November 04, 2023, 01:29:35 PM
this is true especially in my country where most jobs require a certain educational attainment you won’t even be hired in a fast food restaurant if you didn’t finish high school i know there’s some things that require you to have basic knowledge that would have been taught in school in order to work in fast food restaurants but still this makes it harder to find even a part-time job
It seems that the level of education required by fast food restaurants in your area is also not that high if every worker who will be accepted there only has to have an education at secondary school level. And this also still applies in my area where the average worker in a fast food restaurant whose profession is as a waiter has only completed a secondary school education. However, this should not be considered equally in other jobs because companies or restaurants or small cafes are always looking for workers who match a person's skill level as evidenced by the person's level of education.

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this has always been my worry especially for those who had just graduated again I understand that people with experience are more appealing to companies but how else will fresh graduates gain experience if they’re not being hired?
New graduates will also look for experience in different jobs in different places because not everyone has the same skills and likes working in the same places as other people. Although state officials must also make efforts to create new jobs for their citizens if there are sectors that can be utilized by the community. Although some people are also able to create jobs for themselves by opening small cafes around markets or in places that are busy with everyone.
486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the last 5 years compare to now on: November 04, 2023, 12:44:50 PM
bitcoin has the potential to be used by more people in the next few years for their transactions or investments. we can see how bitcoin has developed in recent years. even though many parties reject and ban bitcoin, that doesn't stop the adoption of bitcoin, in fact bitcoin continues to grow and can even reach its ath. with the developments it has shown, we can now conclude that the potential for bitcoin to be used by more people in the future is quite high and i am confident about this.
Banning Bitcoin in several countries is also not a serious enough obstacle for Bitcoin to continue to grow and even new people continue to like Bitcoin when looking at some well-known investors who still like Bitcoin today which means it will continue to provide a positive boost to Bitcoin in the future to come as it will only take time to see more adoption occurring in various countries for Bitcoin. Moreover, there are many people who experienced a clear life change when Bitcoin peaked in its bullish condition and that has also become a positive proof for Bitcoin in attracting many enthusiasts for the future.
487  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Merit] Help posts in local boards that did not receive enough merits on: November 03, 2023, 10:18:42 AM
Indonesia Local Board

This is the list of links:

Link 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466485.msg62844562#msg62844562

Link 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5398239.msg62878786#msg62878786

Link 3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465634.msg62890605#msg62890605

Link 4: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465947.msg62893825#msg62893825

Link 5: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465634.msg62908529#msg62908529

Link 6: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5467858.msg62923296#msg62923296

Link 7: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5463040.msg62927971#msg62927971

Link 8: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466179.msg62963557#msg62963557

Link 9: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452967.msg62447083#msg62447083

Link 10: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454371.msg62388992#msg62388992
488  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [INFO] Pembelajaran Untuk Pemula Di sini on: November 02, 2023, 12:53:56 PM
Salam

Di sini saya akan membagikan pengalaman saya untuk para pemula . Saya membuat akun Bitcointalk pada tahun 2017 akhir. Berhubung saya belum tahu apa yang harus saya lakukan. Yang saya tahu waktu itu forum ini digunakan hanya untuk mengikuti Bounty saja , sehingga banyak postingan saya isi nya hanya laporan bounty saja.
Sekarang om @SaepulMT sudah tahu kalau forum ini tidak hanya seputar bounty saja, tetapi ada banyak cara dan ilmu yang bisa om pelajari untuk meningkatkan pengetahuan seputar Bitcoin dan juga blockchain yang jelas-jelas hal itu adalah hal yang lebih luar biasa dari sekedar bounty yang pernah om promosikan di beberapa sosial media pada masa lalu. Jadi sekaranglah waktunya bagi om untuk terus belajar dan mengembangkan pengetahuan yang lebih banyak karena tidak ada kata terlambat bagi semua orang yang ingin terus belajar untuk menjadi lebih baik dari sebelumnya, apalagi kalau setiap hal yang besar itu memang harus diperoleh melalui tekad dan kerja keras dari diri kita masing-masing.

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Banyak waktu yang terbuang sia-sia jika saja saya meneruskan kalau forum ini digunakan hanya untuk Bounty saja.
Saya hanya ingin membagikan pengalaman ini bagi semua pemula yang ingin menggunakan forum ini harus meningkatkan kwalitas diri sendiri terlebih dahulu dan banyak membaca sebelum menggunakan forum ini.
Lupakan waktu yang telah sia-sia itu meskipun waktu itu bisa om jadikan sebagai pelajaran dan pengingat untuk para pemula lainnya di forum ini, karena om sendiri juga bisa terus melakukan hal-hal yang sedang om butuhkan dengan cara belajar secara perlahan. Om harus bisa memanfaatkan setiap waktu dan kesempatan yang masih ada pada saat ini untuk menuju ke arah yang lebih baik sembari terus meningkatkan pengetahuan yang masih sedikit, terutama tentang Bitcoin dan blockchain serta jaringan-jaringan yang didukung oleh Bitcoin.
489  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull season started? on: November 02, 2023, 12:24:30 PM
Indeed, a lot of factors that will affect the market trend whether it is positive or negative. The current surge of Bitcoin prices seems to be not enough to consider that we are bullish already but of course, it will be an indication that more people have an interest in buying Bitcoin these days. If the momentum will continue and never just see that only Bitcoin rises but also includes old coins, that is probably enough to say that we are finally in the bullsih state. But for now, that rise seems usual and we can't assume that no more drops comes after this.
The current regular increase can actually trigger a lot of speculation from various circles so it is hoped that this can continue for Bitcoin so that other old coins can also follow. Because usually old coins will also move up when Bitcoin has experienced a much greater increase than now and at this time it is still not feasible to assume that the market is in a bullish condition, because the increase is still not too far from the previous price over the duration a very new development in the market.
490  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin: The smartest investment choice. on: November 02, 2023, 12:06:46 PM
Yes. this is a very big step into what I see as a growing market. I think currently there are thousands of viewers investing in a smart way in BTC although many still assume that the price of Bitcoin will fall again but not as deep as some time ago. One thing I want to say is that we will never be able to make a profit if we only look at price declines, but long-term investment strategies and short-term investments must be determined because otherwise it will more or less affect performance (investment psychology) too.
Those who just watch the prices without doing anything will never get anything except what they themselves have worked for in their lives. So you also don't need to think about people like that because when you make a profit through Bitcoin investment you don't need to give it to them, so you just have to focus on your own investment plan and also suggest good things to those who ask about the best investment when This. You can see how current market conditions continue to improve and this will continue to be utilized by many people who have no doubts about Bitcoin.
491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't Force Your Children to Learn Bitcoin on: November 02, 2023, 12:02:14 PM
Putting extra pressure on children will change the mentality of children, so putting extra pressure on children should never be done as a guardian. Each of our guardians should play an important role in the development of children's mind-set. Children should naturally acquire education according to the educational syllabus of their institution. If children are increasingly stressed about Bitcoin and Blockchain, they will not be able to learn their class studies and will instead become mentally ill due to the extra stress.

There is time for children to learn all the knowledge that can be useful for them in the future, meaning that if children are still in school and still in elementary school, there is clearly no need to give them too heavy a mental burden. Because their minds must be focused more on learning to read, count, write and how to analyze a problem so that they can be sufficiently prepared when we provide knowledge that they are not used to learning.

And when they have finished elementary school and are starting to move on to a more middle and high school level, that is the right time for them to get to know the basics of Bitcoin and Blockchain. Because when the child starts to move on to a more specialized educational level, it will be easier for them to determine what education is more suitable for him and he must also continue to be given a more specific understanding of Bitcoin and Blockchain.
492  Economy / Economics / Re: Cracking the Code of Saving Money... on: October 31, 2023, 11:19:23 AM
By savings first and spending from interest earned from your savings, I read this somewhere on the Internet and it's stuck with me ever since,  I find it true from my personal experience as well. Interest might not be enough but what one could do is increase savings further and further until interest is good enough to sustain oneself.
It is also a better solution if someone is able to increase the interest to use it in life, because this can also influence the savings side to become bigger and swell. However, trying to increase interest more in life through savings is also not an easy matter now, considering that currently it is still difficult for some people to increase savings. So it will also make them experience difficulties in increasing the interest to be bigger for them to use in their own lives, even though this is a pretty good solution to do for those who can afford it.
493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Simple Reason Why Bitcoin is not Money on: October 31, 2023, 10:52:44 AM
It's important to note that the views expressed in this passage are a matter of interpretation, and there is ongoing debate regarding the nature and value of cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin. Some argue that Bitcoin has value as a digital asset, a store of value, and a decentralized currency, while others share concerns about its volatility and speculative nature. Ultimately, the value and nature of money, as well as the role of cryptocurrencies, are complex topics that continue to evolve and be discussed in the financial and economic communities.
This discussion will never end because every time a new person starts to like Bitcoin and wants to own it, they will continue to ask questions and discuss things related to its volatility and speculative nature. Although on the one hand, new people who are interested in Bitcoin have also understood things related to digital assets, stores of value, and decentralized currency in Bitcoin so they are starting to believe in it for the long term for the investment sector. This is something that is quite normal to be discussed and debated normally because everyone needs to know all these things before there is a feeling of regret after owning any asset, including Bitcoin.
494  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is your one memory related to Bitcoin that you want to forget? on: October 31, 2023, 09:53:01 AM
What is your one memory related to Bitcoin that you want to forget? It can be anything like some sort of scam happening to you or some other type of loss.

I only regret the several mistakes I have made for myself through several exchanges, because in the past I more often entrusted certain exchanges to store assets. Even though that was the wrong way, I started to change the pattern to be more different by taking all the assets on the exchange and moving them into my personal wallet.

Apart from that, I was also deceived by an unknown person via email who offered me many benefits, but he shared how it worked via a phishing link which made me have to reset the device that I was using at the time. Because he managed to take all my assets even though at that time I didn't have many crypto assets and the rest I had also made a mistake with a withdrawal which resulted in losing assets due to adding the wrong wallet. However, I consider this a normal mistake which can make me learn to be more disciplined and also be more careful so as not to experience the same thing again in the future.
495  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2023 end game sentiment check on: October 29, 2023, 01:53:30 PM
not too sure that btc will touch its new ath at the end of this year considering that we are still in a sideways condition that could last until before the halving. but it is quite certain that btc will touch 40k usd at the end of the year with quite random movements. i am quite confident that we can reach this point considering that in the last few months bitcoin has experienced a movement that could be said to be positive and this price increase could be even more positive if driven by positive news in the coming months.
Seeing that today's Bitcoin price is still not that far from $35K, it is possible for Bitcoin to move to $40K if there are good incentives from several aspects, including from the aspect of good news for Bitcoin itself. I just hope that in the next two months before this year ends there will be more investors who want to enter the market to buy Bitcoin so that it can produce more positive price movements than this month. Because in two days we will all leave October and head into November which is still possible for everyone to expect a price improvement in Bitcoin.
496  Economy / Economics / Re: You can't meet all your needs/desires at once, even if you spend all your salary on: October 29, 2023, 01:46:11 PM
By only thinking about following a luxurious lifestyle, of course this will drain our financial income, I myself think that I am more concerned with basic needs than following a luxurious lifestyle, because even by fulfilling a luxurious lifestyle it will not necessarily make me happy. The income earned must be balanced with the needs, if for example the focus is more on the lifestyle, I am afraid that the basic needs will be affected.
It is clear that it will be affected because I have also seen some people who don't care about their basic needs apart from only caring more about their own luxurious lifestyle. I also don't know how people like that think, because they are so willing to endure hunger just to be able to fulfill a luxurious lifestyle and they will even be very happy when other people praise their lifestyle. But they are not aware that by continuing to do such things they are causing damage to their own health, because perhaps they do not have a commensurate income to continue to indulge their desires in this lifestyle.

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Yes, I agree with you, I will balance my income and basic needs, then the rest is to be enjoyed more, even if the income I get is limited, in my opinion it is very mandatory to save even if it is in a small amount it doesn't matter. Because if we don't save, what I'm afraid of in the future is that suddenly there is a problem and our financial situation is bad so it is difficult to deal with it, Nakmun, if with the savings we do at such times we will not be too confused and will not borrow here and there to deal with problems that suddenly come.
You can think about this now or in the past if the goal is to save so that you don't experience economic difficulties when economic conditions start to get worse. And what's more important is that you also have to know how much you earn each month so that you can balance your own expenses in several ways. This includes lifestyle because daily needs are things that are very important so everyone will definitely prioritize these things before prioritizing their own lifestyle. Except for people who are not wise in using money and are willing to endure hunger just for the sake of their lifestyle.
497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Educating unemployed friends about Bitcoin on: October 29, 2023, 01:06:29 PM
I never invite friends or advise friends, including close friends, about Bitcoin, in fact, if someone asks about investment, I direct them to gold and I also advise them to read for themselves about Bitcoin on the internet. After they understand a little, I teach them from the start, my reason is simple. I don't know how to explain Bitcoin to lay people who have never heard of Bitcoin.
So how did you learn about Bitcoin in the past, did you also read it yourself on the internet after hearing the words Bitcoin from other people's mouths before you really knew about it until now? Everyone will definitely ask people who already know Bitcoin if they already know someone who understands more about Bitcoin. And I think you have also asked other people about Bitcoin, even though you advise lay people who don't know about Bitcoin to look for it on the internet.

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Even if I want to teach my friends about Bitcoin, I will make them curious and create curiosity. The easy way to explain it is with real things, buying a car, house, etc. from bitcoin profits. The problem is that people now still see the results that we explain, if there are no results, no one will believe them. This is what happens in my area, because many people are still unfamiliar with Bitcoin.
If you want to teach other people about Bitcoin or people who are still unfamiliar with Bitcoin in your own area, you should also teach them to appreciate the process of learning. Don't immediately give an example of buying a car, house, etc from Bitcoin profits, because this will not enable them to appreciate the process and it will be easier for them to forget about Bitcoin when they haven't gotten any results from Bitcoin. And imagine if the person who taught them still didn't have a car, house, etc from bitcoin profits, would they believe what that person said? I don't think so mate.
498  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Kita harus mencintai dan menikmati proses on: October 28, 2023, 04:24:06 PM
Hai teman teman lokal Indonesia 😃
Hai juga @Awan putih yang cantik

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dan saya membuat topik ini karena saya merasa bahagia karena saya bisa mendapatkan keuntungan dari investasi di crypto yang akhir akhir ini ada kenaikan yang lumayan tinggi , saya walaupun jarang masuk dan posting tapi saya selalu menikmati dan membaca postingan teman teman semua disini ketika ada waktu dan akhirnya banyak ilmu yang bisa di dapat dan karena ada sedikit sedikit ilmu yang saya dapat akhirnya saya menjadi sedikit tahu tentang trading yang baik dan akhirnya berhasil,
Om harus bersyukur juga karena telah mendapatkan keuntungan lewat investasi gara-gara ada peningkatan harga yang terjadi dalam bulan ini, tetapi untuk masalah ilmu saya pikir tidak boleh sedikit karena kita semua perlu terus belajar demi bisa mengetahui lebih banyak ilmu. Baik itu ilmu yang ada hubungannya dengan kripto maupun ilmu lain yang bisa bermanfaat dengan kehidupan kita secara pribadi om, karena ketika om yang jarang membuat posting disini namun masih sering membaca postingan orang lain, hal itu sebenarnya sudah bisa membuat om mengetahui lebih banyak ilmu yang bisa om praktekkan disaat ingin melakukan sesuatu seperti pada bidang trading dan lainnya juga.

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namun saya ingin bertanya apakah kalian selalu menikmati proses atau pernah tidak sabar dalam suatu hal? Dan apakah anda menikmati perjalanan anda di forum dan akhirnya menjadi pahlawan atau legendaris?
Tentu saja setiap orang pasti menikmati prosesnya om, karena disini atau di tempat manapun memang tidak ada yang instan sehingga setiap orang perlu menjalani prosesnya dengan sangat tekun dan juga dengan sangat konsisten supaya bisa mencapai apa yang kita inginkan om. Jadi tidak ada alasan untuk tidak menikmati proses, karena hal tersebut memang harus dinikmati tanpa ada rasa tertekan dari berbagai hal.
499  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2023 end game sentiment check on: October 28, 2023, 03:44:13 PM
I'm very optimistic that it is the right time for the bull and I vote for it before the year end that we are getting closer to its peak again.
The market is getting better, though the only threat is the possible WW3 but the rest are doing fine and in favor to Bitcoin itself.
Let's be more positive and hope for the peace in the world because if there's another war, it's useless to have more Crypto if you can't enjoy it anymore.
We all don't know when peace in this world will happen soon, as well as market conditions and the price of Bitcoin in the market which is also still difficult to know when it will increase again or just stay at the current price in the long term. Even though I am actually still quite optimistic that much better price movements are still very likely to come again to Bitcoin before this year ends, even though there is still one threat that could affect Bitcoin price conditions in the market as you said, I do not hesitate to continue to hope for price improvements in Bitcoin starting later this year.
500  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there a formula for Bitcoin starters? on: October 28, 2023, 03:31:38 PM
I think you are not alone who are having a hard time and struggle in acquiring Bitcoin due to insufficient funds. What if you try to save signature campaign earnings for that purpose? But yeah on my part I experience the same and signature campaign earnings I have right now is not enough for me and my family's needs. Investing in Bitcoin is to be honest not my priority right now but I have plans in the future.
Everyone has difficulties in any way, including in terms of investment, who in particular may really want to invest in Bitcoin but still experience problems by not having enough capital for it. However, that doesn't mean it can't be done because Bitcoin can be invested in very small to very large sizes, so trying to save it from any proceeds is a very appropriate option in my opinion. Because a lot of it certainly comes from the smallest collections that are saved consistently every week or month for investment purposes.
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