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481  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull season started? on: November 02, 2023, 12:24:30 PM
Indeed, a lot of factors that will affect the market trend whether it is positive or negative. The current surge of Bitcoin prices seems to be not enough to consider that we are bullish already but of course, it will be an indication that more people have an interest in buying Bitcoin these days. If the momentum will continue and never just see that only Bitcoin rises but also includes old coins, that is probably enough to say that we are finally in the bullsih state. But for now, that rise seems usual and we can't assume that no more drops comes after this.
The current regular increase can actually trigger a lot of speculation from various circles so it is hoped that this can continue for Bitcoin so that other old coins can also follow. Because usually old coins will also move up when Bitcoin has experienced a much greater increase than now and at this time it is still not feasible to assume that the market is in a bullish condition, because the increase is still not too far from the previous price over the duration a very new development in the market.
482  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin: The smartest investment choice. on: November 02, 2023, 12:06:46 PM
Yes. this is a very big step into what I see as a growing market. I think currently there are thousands of viewers investing in a smart way in BTC although many still assume that the price of Bitcoin will fall again but not as deep as some time ago. One thing I want to say is that we will never be able to make a profit if we only look at price declines, but long-term investment strategies and short-term investments must be determined because otherwise it will more or less affect performance (investment psychology) too.
Those who just watch the prices without doing anything will never get anything except what they themselves have worked for in their lives. So you also don't need to think about people like that because when you make a profit through Bitcoin investment you don't need to give it to them, so you just have to focus on your own investment plan and also suggest good things to those who ask about the best investment when This. You can see how current market conditions continue to improve and this will continue to be utilized by many people who have no doubts about Bitcoin.
483  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't Force Your Children to Learn Bitcoin on: November 02, 2023, 12:02:14 PM
Putting extra pressure on children will change the mentality of children, so putting extra pressure on children should never be done as a guardian. Each of our guardians should play an important role in the development of children's mind-set. Children should naturally acquire education according to the educational syllabus of their institution. If children are increasingly stressed about Bitcoin and Blockchain, they will not be able to learn their class studies and will instead become mentally ill due to the extra stress.

There is time for children to learn all the knowledge that can be useful for them in the future, meaning that if children are still in school and still in elementary school, there is clearly no need to give them too heavy a mental burden. Because their minds must be focused more on learning to read, count, write and how to analyze a problem so that they can be sufficiently prepared when we provide knowledge that they are not used to learning.

And when they have finished elementary school and are starting to move on to a more middle and high school level, that is the right time for them to get to know the basics of Bitcoin and Blockchain. Because when the child starts to move on to a more specialized educational level, it will be easier for them to determine what education is more suitable for him and he must also continue to be given a more specific understanding of Bitcoin and Blockchain.
484  Economy / Economics / Re: Cracking the Code of Saving Money... on: October 31, 2023, 11:19:23 AM
By savings first and spending from interest earned from your savings, I read this somewhere on the Internet and it's stuck with me ever since,  I find it true from my personal experience as well. Interest might not be enough but what one could do is increase savings further and further until interest is good enough to sustain oneself.
It is also a better solution if someone is able to increase the interest to use it in life, because this can also influence the savings side to become bigger and swell. However, trying to increase interest more in life through savings is also not an easy matter now, considering that currently it is still difficult for some people to increase savings. So it will also make them experience difficulties in increasing the interest to be bigger for them to use in their own lives, even though this is a pretty good solution to do for those who can afford it.
485  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Simple Reason Why Bitcoin is not Money on: October 31, 2023, 10:52:44 AM
It's important to note that the views expressed in this passage are a matter of interpretation, and there is ongoing debate regarding the nature and value of cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin. Some argue that Bitcoin has value as a digital asset, a store of value, and a decentralized currency, while others share concerns about its volatility and speculative nature. Ultimately, the value and nature of money, as well as the role of cryptocurrencies, are complex topics that continue to evolve and be discussed in the financial and economic communities.
This discussion will never end because every time a new person starts to like Bitcoin and wants to own it, they will continue to ask questions and discuss things related to its volatility and speculative nature. Although on the one hand, new people who are interested in Bitcoin have also understood things related to digital assets, stores of value, and decentralized currency in Bitcoin so they are starting to believe in it for the long term for the investment sector. This is something that is quite normal to be discussed and debated normally because everyone needs to know all these things before there is a feeling of regret after owning any asset, including Bitcoin.
486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is your one memory related to Bitcoin that you want to forget? on: October 31, 2023, 09:53:01 AM
What is your one memory related to Bitcoin that you want to forget? It can be anything like some sort of scam happening to you or some other type of loss.

I only regret the several mistakes I have made for myself through several exchanges, because in the past I more often entrusted certain exchanges to store assets. Even though that was the wrong way, I started to change the pattern to be more different by taking all the assets on the exchange and moving them into my personal wallet.

Apart from that, I was also deceived by an unknown person via email who offered me many benefits, but he shared how it worked via a phishing link which made me have to reset the device that I was using at the time. Because he managed to take all my assets even though at that time I didn't have many crypto assets and the rest I had also made a mistake with a withdrawal which resulted in losing assets due to adding the wrong wallet. However, I consider this a normal mistake which can make me learn to be more disciplined and also be more careful so as not to experience the same thing again in the future.
487  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2023 end game sentiment check on: October 29, 2023, 01:53:30 PM
not too sure that btc will touch its new ath at the end of this year considering that we are still in a sideways condition that could last until before the halving. but it is quite certain that btc will touch 40k usd at the end of the year with quite random movements. i am quite confident that we can reach this point considering that in the last few months bitcoin has experienced a movement that could be said to be positive and this price increase could be even more positive if driven by positive news in the coming months.
Seeing that today's Bitcoin price is still not that far from $35K, it is possible for Bitcoin to move to $40K if there are good incentives from several aspects, including from the aspect of good news for Bitcoin itself. I just hope that in the next two months before this year ends there will be more investors who want to enter the market to buy Bitcoin so that it can produce more positive price movements than this month. Because in two days we will all leave October and head into November which is still possible for everyone to expect a price improvement in Bitcoin.
488  Economy / Economics / Re: You can't meet all your needs/desires at once, even if you spend all your salary on: October 29, 2023, 01:46:11 PM
By only thinking about following a luxurious lifestyle, of course this will drain our financial income, I myself think that I am more concerned with basic needs than following a luxurious lifestyle, because even by fulfilling a luxurious lifestyle it will not necessarily make me happy. The income earned must be balanced with the needs, if for example the focus is more on the lifestyle, I am afraid that the basic needs will be affected.
It is clear that it will be affected because I have also seen some people who don't care about their basic needs apart from only caring more about their own luxurious lifestyle. I also don't know how people like that think, because they are so willing to endure hunger just to be able to fulfill a luxurious lifestyle and they will even be very happy when other people praise their lifestyle. But they are not aware that by continuing to do such things they are causing damage to their own health, because perhaps they do not have a commensurate income to continue to indulge their desires in this lifestyle.

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Yes, I agree with you, I will balance my income and basic needs, then the rest is to be enjoyed more, even if the income I get is limited, in my opinion it is very mandatory to save even if it is in a small amount it doesn't matter. Because if we don't save, what I'm afraid of in the future is that suddenly there is a problem and our financial situation is bad so it is difficult to deal with it, Nakmun, if with the savings we do at such times we will not be too confused and will not borrow here and there to deal with problems that suddenly come.
You can think about this now or in the past if the goal is to save so that you don't experience economic difficulties when economic conditions start to get worse. And what's more important is that you also have to know how much you earn each month so that you can balance your own expenses in several ways. This includes lifestyle because daily needs are things that are very important so everyone will definitely prioritize these things before prioritizing their own lifestyle. Except for people who are not wise in using money and are willing to endure hunger just for the sake of their lifestyle.
489  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Educating unemployed friends about Bitcoin on: October 29, 2023, 01:06:29 PM
I never invite friends or advise friends, including close friends, about Bitcoin, in fact, if someone asks about investment, I direct them to gold and I also advise them to read for themselves about Bitcoin on the internet. After they understand a little, I teach them from the start, my reason is simple. I don't know how to explain Bitcoin to lay people who have never heard of Bitcoin.
So how did you learn about Bitcoin in the past, did you also read it yourself on the internet after hearing the words Bitcoin from other people's mouths before you really knew about it until now? Everyone will definitely ask people who already know Bitcoin if they already know someone who understands more about Bitcoin. And I think you have also asked other people about Bitcoin, even though you advise lay people who don't know about Bitcoin to look for it on the internet.

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Even if I want to teach my friends about Bitcoin, I will make them curious and create curiosity. The easy way to explain it is with real things, buying a car, house, etc. from bitcoin profits. The problem is that people now still see the results that we explain, if there are no results, no one will believe them. This is what happens in my area, because many people are still unfamiliar with Bitcoin.
If you want to teach other people about Bitcoin or people who are still unfamiliar with Bitcoin in your own area, you should also teach them to appreciate the process of learning. Don't immediately give an example of buying a car, house, etc from Bitcoin profits, because this will not enable them to appreciate the process and it will be easier for them to forget about Bitcoin when they haven't gotten any results from Bitcoin. And imagine if the person who taught them still didn't have a car, house, etc from bitcoin profits, would they believe what that person said? I don't think so mate.
490  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Kita harus mencintai dan menikmati proses on: October 28, 2023, 04:24:06 PM
Hai teman teman lokal Indonesia 😃
Hai juga @Awan putih yang cantik

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dan saya membuat topik ini karena saya merasa bahagia karena saya bisa mendapatkan keuntungan dari investasi di crypto yang akhir akhir ini ada kenaikan yang lumayan tinggi , saya walaupun jarang masuk dan posting tapi saya selalu menikmati dan membaca postingan teman teman semua disini ketika ada waktu dan akhirnya banyak ilmu yang bisa di dapat dan karena ada sedikit sedikit ilmu yang saya dapat akhirnya saya menjadi sedikit tahu tentang trading yang baik dan akhirnya berhasil,
Om harus bersyukur juga karena telah mendapatkan keuntungan lewat investasi gara-gara ada peningkatan harga yang terjadi dalam bulan ini, tetapi untuk masalah ilmu saya pikir tidak boleh sedikit karena kita semua perlu terus belajar demi bisa mengetahui lebih banyak ilmu. Baik itu ilmu yang ada hubungannya dengan kripto maupun ilmu lain yang bisa bermanfaat dengan kehidupan kita secara pribadi om, karena ketika om yang jarang membuat posting disini namun masih sering membaca postingan orang lain, hal itu sebenarnya sudah bisa membuat om mengetahui lebih banyak ilmu yang bisa om praktekkan disaat ingin melakukan sesuatu seperti pada bidang trading dan lainnya juga.

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namun saya ingin bertanya apakah kalian selalu menikmati proses atau pernah tidak sabar dalam suatu hal? Dan apakah anda menikmati perjalanan anda di forum dan akhirnya menjadi pahlawan atau legendaris?
Tentu saja setiap orang pasti menikmati prosesnya om, karena disini atau di tempat manapun memang tidak ada yang instan sehingga setiap orang perlu menjalani prosesnya dengan sangat tekun dan juga dengan sangat konsisten supaya bisa mencapai apa yang kita inginkan om. Jadi tidak ada alasan untuk tidak menikmati proses, karena hal tersebut memang harus dinikmati tanpa ada rasa tertekan dari berbagai hal.
491  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2023 end game sentiment check on: October 28, 2023, 03:44:13 PM
I'm very optimistic that it is the right time for the bull and I vote for it before the year end that we are getting closer to its peak again.
The market is getting better, though the only threat is the possible WW3 but the rest are doing fine and in favor to Bitcoin itself.
Let's be more positive and hope for the peace in the world because if there's another war, it's useless to have more Crypto if you can't enjoy it anymore.
We all don't know when peace in this world will happen soon, as well as market conditions and the price of Bitcoin in the market which is also still difficult to know when it will increase again or just stay at the current price in the long term. Even though I am actually still quite optimistic that much better price movements are still very likely to come again to Bitcoin before this year ends, even though there is still one threat that could affect Bitcoin price conditions in the market as you said, I do not hesitate to continue to hope for price improvements in Bitcoin starting later this year.
492  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there a formula for Bitcoin starters? on: October 28, 2023, 03:31:38 PM
I think you are not alone who are having a hard time and struggle in acquiring Bitcoin due to insufficient funds. What if you try to save signature campaign earnings for that purpose? But yeah on my part I experience the same and signature campaign earnings I have right now is not enough for me and my family's needs. Investing in Bitcoin is to be honest not my priority right now but I have plans in the future.
Everyone has difficulties in any way, including in terms of investment, who in particular may really want to invest in Bitcoin but still experience problems by not having enough capital for it. However, that doesn't mean it can't be done because Bitcoin can be invested in very small to very large sizes, so trying to save it from any proceeds is a very appropriate option in my opinion. Because a lot of it certainly comes from the smallest collections that are saved consistently every week or month for investment purposes.
493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Maybe I should have taken this risk earlier. on: October 28, 2023, 03:04:43 PM
I think it would be foolish to invest your private university tuition money in Bitcoin.Let's say you invest in bitcoin because of a sudden rise in price. Good thing you don't get your money back when the price of bitcoin goes down.So then getting admission in your college may hamper your admission in private university.If you are so motivated to invest Bitcoin then you can invest with money other than your university tuition money.
Actually, it's not stupid, but it's just not appropriate to use money whose purpose is for studying, not for any investment, including Bitcoin. Investing in Bitcoin is actually not that difficult as long as we have money and knowledge about it as initial capital, but we also have to know how to allocate money into whatever investment it is. Because any money that you want to use for investment is money that is very free from other things, meaning it is money that is not for other uses in life, so the money that is put into investment is money that is really appropriate to be there.
494  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mentalitas yang kuat juga diperlukan dalam trading jangka panjang on: October 27, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
Mentalitas yang kuat juga sukuri dalam trading punk panjang tõesti see on kaasaegne. Dalam Trading on hea suurusega ja vastupidav. Vaadake kogu sisu läbi erinevatel viisidel. Dalam Tradingut haldavad ideaalsed liikmed. Neil on palju oskusi.  Selle kauplemisega liitudes saate kõigest selgelt aru. Ma arvan, et nad võivad halva kiirusega liiga kaugele minna. Siin saate seda proovida, ma arvan, et see on teile hea. Loodan, et leiate siia liitudes õige tee

Saya lihat ini adalah postingan pertama om di ruang lokal dengan menggunakan bahasa yang sangat sulit saya pahami Grin. Saya tidak tahu apakah orang lain memahami bahasa yang seperti ini ataupun sama seperti saya yang jelas-jelas tidak tahu apa yang dikatakan oleh @dan_dony ini, jika itu adalah bahasa daerah dari tempat tinggal om, ada baiknya om merubah kedalam bahasa Indonesia supaya kita semua bisa memahami apa yang om sampaikan disini seperti yang telah om lakukan di beberapa postingan yang lain. Karena semua orang mungkin tahu kalau bangsa Indonesia adalah bangsa yang kaya akan bahasa dan budaya, tetapi dalam forum seperti ini ada baiknya kalau kita semua menggunakan bahasa resmi dari negara kita sendiri, yaitu bahasa Indonesia. Hanya itu saja saran dari saya untuk om @dan_dony.
495  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can it be real bull or just a temptation. on: October 27, 2023, 03:02:41 PM
I think this is just a temptation of the market and not a real sign that the bull season has come. Bitcoin suddenly increased in price just because of ETF-related news and it will quickly stop if no more news is released. As for whether the SEC will approve an ETF or not, I think even if they approve it, it won't happen this year. But with what is happening showing the positive impact of ETFs on the market, I believe that if we combine ETFs and halving, we will have the biggest boom ever for the market.
A big explosion in the price increase in Bitcoin could indeed occur if the effect comes from ETFs and halving for the end of this year and the beginning of next year better. Because this real increase is quite a positive thing for Bitcoin and Bitcoin holders who are still patient enough to wait for the price to increase. And I also think that further price increases are still very likely for Bitcoin if there is no further price drop to below $30K later this year in Bitcoin.
496  Economy / Economics / Re: It doesn't increase purchasing power on: October 27, 2023, 02:54:52 PM
You didn't explain it that how it is a destruction of the world? Explain it with examples??
Such concepts are poor concept of economics, Money is needed for production and production for hard work, while after AI there is no need for hard work, only unlimited money is needed.
Perhaps the intended destruction of the world is in the human resources sector, some of which will be neglected by the presence of robots such as AI so that jobs that are usually relied on by human hands will be replaced by robot hands. However, in terms of maintenance of the robot, it may still need to be researched in depth so that companies do not incur excessive costs for the devices they use. And in general, in fact, every production always has to involve money in it because the process is part of the hard work in any company.
497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the most weird thing you bought with crypto? on: October 27, 2023, 02:34:47 PM
In a deal, 2 years ago, I asked the seller of a real estate project, if he will accept crypto for plot but he demanded some extra money for this deal. So, I was not able to close the deal but may be in future, I can buy something unique with crypto.

What is the most weird thing you bought with crypto?
If the question is about strange items, maybe I haven't bought strange items using crypto so far because every item I have bought so far and in the past has always used fiat money. Even though the fiat money comes from my work in crypto, I never buy things that other people might consider strange other than those things that I really need for myself in life. And if what you are telling me is something that happened two years ago, try making another agreement with that person now, maybe he will be willing to accept your agreement for now.
498  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Skema Ponzi Yang Sedang Marak Memakan Korban on: October 26, 2023, 10:22:02 AM
Mungkin itulah Skema Ponzi Yang sedang marak Memakan Korban khususnya untuk para player Indo. Mungkin agan-agan disini juga ada sedang mengikuti berita terbaru mengenai Ponzi, atau bahkan Ponzi yang telah melakukan scam seperti yang saya ceritakan diatas. Silahkan berbagi di thread kali ini gan, supaya kita bisa memberi pengalama bagi orang-orang yang awam mengenai Skema Ponzi yang sedang marak terjadi.
Saya tidak pernah melakukan pekerjaan yang berhubungan dengan Skema Ponzi dan bahkan saya juga sangat jarang bermain game apapun selama ini, jadi hal itu membuat saya menjadi tidak sering membaca berita yang berkaitan dengan Skema Ponzi seperti yang om maksudkan itu. Tetapi yang sangat mengherankan adalah masih ada korban dari Skema Ponzi sampai saat ini padahal hampir semua orang sudah tahu kalau Skema Ponzi itu memang tidak baik dan tidak cocok untuk dijadikan sebagai lahan pencarian uang.

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Oh iya baru-baru ini ada juga gim yang berskema Ponzi yang pasti bakal Scam, yang bernama XlandWorld ( game bertemakan pelayaran, ada kapal-kapal gitu pada tema gamenya). Bagaimana menurut kalian gan? Terkhusus bagi player ponzi, apakah tetap ingin mencoba invest digame tersebut? atau mungkin sudah trauma?. Saya ingatkan tetap DYOR ya kawan-kawan.
Bermain game untuk menghibur diri kita sendiri sebenarnya tidak salah, tetapi jika bermain game apapun itu bisa membuat kantong atau dompet kita menjadi kosong karenanya, saya pikir game tersebut perlu dijauhi karena investasi yang bermanfaat itu bukan di game, tetapi di aset-aset yang sudah memiliki nilai yang baik seperti pada Bitcoin, emas dan aset-aset nyata lainnya seperti pada tanah dan juga perumahan. Bukan pada game yang akhirnya juga bisa membosankan setelah kita mainkan dalam waktu yang lama.
499  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can it be real bull or just a temptation. on: October 26, 2023, 09:44:59 AM
all of us here can only guess what is actually happening, whether this is a real bull market or not, no one knows, and no one can guess how bitcoin will trend in the next 1,2 or several months. but i prefer to believe that holding bitcoin and selling it later is much better than following these trends - these are just the waves before the actual "bull market", and whether you want to follow this trend or not is up to you.

Everyone will follow their own heart in any case and that is a very normal thing that happens and we cannot deny it because everyone also has desires based on their own thoughts on what they follow. We can't blame those who are selling at this point after they bought it at $25K as the $10K price difference to take profit is pretty decent for them, but I personally would still hold to see higher prices in Bitcoin without being affected by the increase that has occurred at this time in Bitcoin.
500  Economy / Economics / Re: Recession? How to face It? on: October 26, 2023, 09:38:52 AM
Recessions have occurred long before we were born and this happens every time the global economy changes and several other causes. Inflation also occurs due to an erratic increase in the price of goods and people's purchasing power weakens due to a lack of balance. Both are natural phenomena that often occur, but with varying levels of severity and what people need to do is follow several steps of advice from experts and live as frugal a life as possible and not wastefully live in these conditions.
This is a phenomenon that often occurs in the economy, not a natural phenomenon as you say because recession and inflation arise through economic changes that are not controlled by the parties involved so that it can cause bad things to happen within the economic scope, such as in the example of recession and inflation that has been felt by everyone throughout the world. And the good option is to continue to work hard and save money because only with this can everyone fight recession and inflation through their own lives.

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We have gone through several critical events caused by recession and inflation and outwardly we have come through well, despite the complications and difficulties. For example, when Covid-19 happened and almost everyone experienced big problems at that time and in the end we were able to get through it on our own with some advice, our own way and assistance from the government.
Things like recession and inflation actually cannot be fought by relying on ourselves alone, so to overcome this and fight it in a better way, of course every citizen still needs help from the government and intervention from other related parties because This is related to the global economy so there needs to be broader handling from all parties in order to get through this like we got through the pandemic disaster that has come to everyone throughout the world.
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