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481  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Output heat calculator for Miners on: January 07, 2018, 06:17:42 PM
A good option is to be living somewhere in the north and not south, and use a room in your house with multiple windows in it so you can basically just create a wind tunnel of cool fresh air. If that's not an option, then an AC is definitely for you, but don't overestimate how much these things need. I'm cooling my 20 miner farm with a 14,000 BTU AC and the temps are fine. Obviously they're going to put out more than that, you just have to exhaust their heat well.

How many cubic feet are you cooling with that 14,000 BTU A/C unit? Also what do you keep the temp of that area? I ask because that is *exactly* what I was going to use for my setup after researching Smiley I figure cooling as small an area as possible with a 70F miner inlet temp along and proper waste heat removal will do the trick.
482  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Insulated venting size? on: January 07, 2018, 06:12:48 PM
Hey all.

I will have 3 S9 miners, and I plan on venting them all into 1 outlet, stepping from 4" adapters to Wye adapters and ultimately to the same pipe using an inline fan to aid in suction then and out the basement window.

Is 8" ducting sufficient or do I need 10" ? Will I have too much of a bottleneck going from the 4" to each adapter?



I would run a larger duct on the outlet of the miner. My S7 only increases slightly in temp with a 4" adapter, but my S9s went up a lot when I tried to use that size duct. I am having a buddy 3D print some 6" exhaust outlets (for me this is all temporary until my proper setup is finished). As for the other duct sizing I believe you can find some HVAC calculators out there to help. Each S9 puts out roughly 225 CFM of air and any kind of restriction raises the chip temp quick.
483  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [FS] All aluminum open-air frame for ONDA B250 motherboard (8 GPU) on: January 07, 2018, 05:59:46 AM
This all aluminum open-air frame for the ONDA B250 motherboard (8 GPU) is $65 USD .





PayPal only.  Shipped from Washington state, US.


The optional fan support beam is +$20, two for +$35 or four for +$50 (includes all required fasteners for 25mm thick fans).

Lead time is currently 2-3 business days.  

What all would I need if I wanted to utilize all 12 GPUs? I imagine the tray would need to support two rows of fans, with the 2nd row cooling the 4 additional GPUs? Would there be room for two power supplies as well?

I have another design to support all 12 GPUs.

Do you require mounting the PSUs to the frame?  If so, how many PSUs?
 


2 PSUs max, I'd like to mount them, but if it would take a lot of custom work I'll find one large setup or just not mount the 2nd to the frame.
484  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [FS] All aluminum open-air frame for ONDA B250 motherboard (8 GPU) on: January 07, 2018, 05:16:05 AM
This all aluminum open-air frame for the ONDA B250 motherboard (8 GPU) is $65 USD .





PayPal only.  Shipped from Washington state, US.


The optional fan support beam is +$20, two for +$35 or four for +$50 (includes all required fasteners for 25mm thick fans).

Lead time is currently 2-3 business days.  

What all would I need if I wanted to utilize all 12 GPUs? I imagine the tray would need to support two rows of fans, with the 2nd row cooling the 4 additional GPUs? Would there be room for two power supplies as well?
485  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitcoin Mining Newbie on: January 06, 2018, 07:25:38 PM
I picked up an S7 off of eBay for $630.00 + $37.00 shipping in November. I guess I got super lucky to get in before the prices went in to stupid mode. Hell I was worried about ROI at that price point Smiley Anyway it is still cranking along with Awesomeminer reporting back $13.84/day as of this morning.
486  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: January 06, 2018, 05:57:28 PM
I apologize for expressing my frustration in an angry manne and demeaning some users. I was frustrated with the terminology thatthe ‘reviewers’ were using to label this product. I think there is a need for them to clean up and standardize their nomenclature so that it’s fair for everyone involved.

- Proven
- Unproven
- Possible Scam
- Absolute Scam

Etc.

Know what I mean?  

Here's the problem with what you ask. YOU are the only person who will be held to a professional standard as will the company you represent. Not your customers and certainly not people on the Internet. I spent many years in sales, if you have any time at all in it you should know this.
487  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Considering buying 10 S9's or equivalent - Need help deciding to move forward on: January 06, 2018, 05:47:32 PM
In the USA $0.08/kWh isn't the real cost of electricity. You have to look at your bill & factor in delivery charges & other misc. fees. Then you'll arrive at the real cost per kWh; unless you don't have those other charges? Plus there might be demand charges if you exceed a certain limit depending on your electric utility provider. And at 10 S9 miners, you'll need 5 x 20A 2 pole breakers dedicated to the miners only. And running these miners at home will take up 1/4 of your panel assuming you have a 200A, 42 slot panel. If you have an older home with a smaller panel, then you'll have less to work with. So there's actually a lot of logistics to consider than just how much profit the calculators say you can make & which don't factor in.

I just added a 100amp sub panel next to my 200amp breaker box. I can fit 10 x 20 amp 220v breakers in it for up to 20 miners. Now if only I had the miners. Lol

Or use 30A breakers and save slots.

But you have a larger problem, you're limited to 80% of that 100A sub-panel. So 80A which = roughly 11ish miners if you figure roughly 7A per miner maybe a tad more if you calculate off 6.4A, but why risk it?
488  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Considering buying 10 S9's or equivalent - Need help deciding to move forward on: January 06, 2018, 05:36:25 PM

I am in a similar spot looking at all this..

Can someone who is running a S9 let me know at current difficulty rates, pool fees, how much BTC is one unit (13.5 T/HS) is ACTUALLY generating for you now,  per day or per month.

I have some units on the way, I will get them up and running next week, and I will let you know how much I actually generate.



You can look up difficulty and pool fees yourself. This is a screenshot from Awesomeminer for a couple of S9s, an S7,  and a couple GPU miners ('cause I forgot to crop them out Smiley), so far its calculations have been pretty good.




Hmmmm, I guess my noob status won't let it display pics?
489  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: January 05, 2018, 03:16:28 AM
NotFuzzyWarm, I'm not sure I understand the basis of your claim. Why do you feel the need to say shit like that? You can't claim it's a scam without proof. Maybe it's different in your country, but in mine it's "innocent until proven guilty". You have no proof that Halong is a scam. You have unsatisfactory answers to your questions. That's about all.

This post is in the "Mining Speculation" sub-forum. If you'd like to start a new thread called "Confirmed Scam", go ahead, but no one is going to listen to you and you'll just embarrass yourself further. I understand some of you "professional, unbiased reviewers" in this forum feel entitled and worthy of receiving a free unit to test for yourselves, but honestly, real mining equipment manufacturers don't need reviews. The equipment will sell and the results will be shown. 

So, go ahead and cry wolf, NotFuzzyWarm. You're only digging yourself a deeper hole and will become less trusted in the community with assumptions.

***  Halongmining Dragonmint miner is a SCAM! If someone buys their miners without any well-known and trusted Forum Users 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***

I don't know you and I am not looking to pick a fight. However I find it ironic that in one breath you say it cannot be called a scam without proof and in another you're basically saying "hey believe in this new miner" with no proof. I've read your other posts and if you are truly working with the company can't you get some new pics or something? Because believe me, the company is being tried in the court of credibility right here and now!
490  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Are there 240v surge protectors and watt meters for American miners? on: January 04, 2018, 09:33:31 PM
Did you have a look at those Tripp-Lite PDUs? Those have everything except surge protection. You might give their support a call and see if they have anything with the features you're looking for and surge suppression. Maybe the same for APC, Liebert/Vertiv etc. Or maybe they can offer an alternative method.

I am afraid that their going to say use a UPS, which is what large operations do for line conditioning.

491  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Are there 240v surge protectors and watt meters for American miners? on: January 04, 2018, 08:47:39 PM
You need to take in to account the wire gauge from the breaker to the outlet, it's not *just* the breaker or *just* the outlet that dictates the max amperage.

Hey it's your money if you must have a surge protector get one. Also if you want to run two miners on a 15A circuit go for it, but I find it funny you're worried about surge protectors and fires from a surge more than overloading a circuit.

Oh and it sounds like you need a new electrician...

492  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Are there 240v surge protectors and watt meters for American miners? on: January 04, 2018, 04:42:43 PM
I think one could argue back and forth the real value of consumer grade "surge" protectors.

Anyway I would look at a "smart" PDU for the other items you want. You can get them in several configs from metered, metered and switched, monitored etc, etc. Also a 15A circuit is cutting it awfully close running two miners, it also depends on the brand and model. S9s are like 6-7A each and the M3's are like 10A each. Remember you don't want to exceed 80% of the circuit capacity.
493  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: eBay Antminer S7, Item damaged on arrival - anything i can do?!? on: January 03, 2018, 10:47:29 PM
I got lucky and picked up an S7 from eBay before both Bitcoin and the used miner market went nuts. After many many days of looking it was obvious that there's several sellers who must be doing something artificially to inflate their positive reviews and the counts of those. Someone with like 100% and many thousands positive reviews seems awfully fishy to me.

This spammed listing seems to make it's rounds under different sellers, they might be legit, but I do not trust them at all.

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-Bitmain-Antminer-S7-Bitcoin-ASIC-Miner-4-73TH-s-FreePSU-Perfect-Working/391932509858?epid=12010963140&hash=item5b40ff7ea2:g:4KcAAOSwHNxaMbmN

Anyway lately there's been a ton of used miner listings like that one and they all seem to be using the same letter code description (A, B, C, etc). If you're going to buy from someone thoroughly check out their reviews and most importantly the item description. It's pretty easy to tell someone who's copy and pasting from other listings or spamming out tons of the same listing. Also look closely at the pictures, are they silly looking photoshopped jobs or do they look like a genuine unique listing. Contact the seller and have them send you more if needed, heck maybe even a video of the unit in question running.

Lastly whether or not they say no refund if the seller misrepresented the item eBay will help you.
494  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining companies reneging. Canaan? on: January 03, 2018, 03:20:42 PM
Have you kept records of your attempted communications with both companies? Have you called?

Just asking because the accusations you are making are pretty serious, however they seem unsubstantiated without more info.


495  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Looking for detailed info on miner Monitoring software on: December 31, 2017, 08:16:24 PM
Another satisfied Awesome Miner customer.
496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins to invest in before the New Year on: December 30, 2017, 06:05:57 AM
I am going to invest some in AEON and ZCL, both $$ and some mining hash-power. Reason? I feel that one of the original intents of cryptocurrency was privacy/anonymity so I like "privacy" coins.
497  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Setting up small mining op VPN question... on: December 30, 2017, 04:52:46 AM
you can have a look at the cloud mining monitor of awesomeminer.com

That's true, but it carries an extra cost, whereas OpenVPN does not.
498  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: 480v 3 phase service. how to fully maximize efficiency on: December 30, 2017, 04:42:56 AM
I have only worked with 220v single phase. Currently looking at a few places that offers 480v 3 phase.

Can anyone shed some experience on how i can  fully utilize the power.

1. How much work needs to be done, I plan to run 4x s9 per 208v pdu. So will need 10x nema outlets to begin with

2. Estimated cost ?

Most of the locations that i have seen are still being used by the previous tenant, and I see a lot of heavy machinery inside. Hopefully the places are fully set up for heavy loads.



You can't run 4 s9 per 208 30a pdu, they are rated for 5kW.  Even my 240v 30a pdus trip with anything over 3. 

Most PDUs split the incoming 30A in to two 15A or so circuit breakers. So you need to figure no more than two per circuit breaker of the PDU. Although 4 total is probably too close (counting inrush and possible high heat) as they run 6-7A per miner. Currently I have an S7 and an S9 on one PDU breaker and an S9 on the other. No plans to run more, once my M3s get here I wont run more than one of those on each circuit of my 30A PDU.
499  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Setting up small mining op VPN question... on: December 29, 2017, 08:21:16 PM
There's a lot of ways to do this, but if you're going to use a router that supports OpenVPN you configure the router to receive OpenVPN connections and then you put the OpenVPN client on the device you want to manage the miners from, like your phone or office PC.





500  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Those of you mining at home in the US. What is your main power setup? on: December 29, 2017, 08:13:15 PM
You have an electrician and now that you have a reputable answer of 7A per device so just figure how many of those devices you're going to run total and let the electrician go from there.

Also keep in mind you'll most likely need some cooling, so set aside a breaker for that.

I went with 30A breakers and L630P outlets to match the PDUs I have and to reduce the total number of circuits and breakers. You don't *have* to run 20A breakers, again though that's where your electrician can advise what he thinks is best.
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