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481  Economy / Economics / Re: 1.34 trillion asset manager Deutsche Bank to offer Bitcoin service on: September 15, 2023, 05:20:41 PM
Is there a link to the source of this information other than the twitter link? Preferably, an official announcement about this from the Deutsche Bank.

A certain effect of popularizing bitcoin will occur if such a big bank as the Deutsche Bank offers storage services for bitcoin and crypto. But the problem is that banks want to make money by offering these services, and services that the bitcoin user can provide to himself. The user will give his btc to banks (loses control over his assets) and at the same time still pay (loses money) for an unnecessary service. What could be more stupid? The funny thing is that there will be plenty of people willing to take advantage of this stupidity.

Here is the link: https://watcher.guru/news/deutsche-bank-to-offer-bitcoin-and-crypto-custody-services

Some people think that it is not secure to store their bitcoins by themselves, like some people think they cannot protect their gold, so they keep it in their bank lockers or with some custodians. They fear that they will lose their private key or hardware wallet, or they will die and their family won't get their bitcoin. People have different understandings of their surroundings, so those types of people who don't feel comfortable managing their own bitcoin wallet will use the services provided by the bank. Most of all, they will get a convenient environment to buy and sell their bitcoins.

I understand your concern about the potential risk associated with banks, but this can make some people's bitcoin lives easier. At least, this is what they think.
482  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: $১০০ ডলারকে $১.৬ মিলিয়ন ডলারে পরিণত করার মিশ on: September 15, 2023, 05:06:15 PM
১০০*২=২০০

৮১৯২০০*২=১৬৩৮৪০০
আমার এই জার্নির প্রথম বিনিয়োগ করা হয়েছে ✅
বিনিয়োগ- Enjin
দাম- $০.২৩৩
বিক্রয় লক্ষ্য- $০.৪৬৬

ভাই এই মুহূর্তে টাকা না থাকায় এসবে জড়ালাম না। বাট ভবিষ্যতে আপনার এই কনসেপ্টটা ট্রাই করার ইচ্ছা আছে আমার। আপনি যদি আপনার বর্তমান প্রোগ্রেস কমিউনিটির সাথে শেয়ার করতেন তাহলে আমরা অনেকে হয়তো এটা থেকে উৎসাগ পেতাম।
প্রতিটা স্টেপ সম্পুর্ন হলে আমি আগের পোস্টকে রেফারেন্স হিসেবে ধরে কোট করে আপডেট জানাবো। আমি আমার প্রথম বিনিয়োগ ENJIN এ করেছি। আশা করি এইটা খুব দ্রুত আমাকে দ্বিগুণ এনে দিবে। এরপর কিসে বিনিয়োগ করবো সেটাও এইখানে শেয়ার করবো বিস্তারিত। কেউ জয়েন হতে চাইলে হতে পারেন।
যদিও এখন আমাদের বিনিয়োগ দ্বিগুণ হতে অনেক সময় লাগছে বা লাগবে, বুল মার্কেটে সেটা খুব দ্রুত হতে পারে। আশা করছি এই বুল মার্কেটে আমরা এই টার্গেটে পৌছাতে পারবো।
উদ্ধোগটা ভালো কিন্তু $১.৬ মিলিয়ন এর লক্ষ্য অর্জন সহজ হবেনা। অল্টকয়েন মার্কেটে ক্যাশ ইনফ্লো সাধারণত ট্রেন্ড হিসেবে চলে।  যখন কোনো বিষয়ের ট্রেন্ড চলে তখন সেই বিষয়ের প্রায় সব প্রজেক্টই ভালো করে। যখন মিমি ট্রেন্ড ছিলো তখন নতুন নতুন মিমি প্রজেক্ট এসেছে মার্কেটে এবং ভালো প্রোফিট দিয়েছে। ENJIN একটা gameFi প্রজেক্ট। বর্তমানে DeFi এবং GameFi প্রজেক্টে সবচাইতে বেশি ডেভেলপমেন্ট চলতেছে। এই প্রজেক্টে ২X হবার কঠিন কিছু হবেনা। তবে মার্কেটে আরো কিছু ট্রেন্ড আছে যেগুলো hype পেতে পারে। যেমনঃ Web3, AI, RWA, Distributed computing, Storage ইত্যাদি। এই ক্যাটাগরি এর প্রজেক্টগুলোতেও নজর রাইখেন। Hype আসলে এগুলা অনেক গুন্ প্রফিট দিয়ে যাবে।
483  Economy / Reputation / Re: Is there anything unusual in these screenshot? on: September 15, 2023, 04:55:11 PM
I saw abnormal behavior in some of the local boards and wanted to know what was happening there. This topic wasn't any investigative post indeed it was a general post to know about the possible explanation.
Well, if you want to get better answers, you should share the name of the accounts from that screenshot because without looking more deeply into situation its hard to say what exactly is going on and you can only do that by actually checking those accounts.

By the way, you don't have to adjust both width and height of the image you are sharing as one of those is enough while the other adjusts automatically. That way image won't be distorted when you mess up the ratio, like in the case of that screenshot you shared.

Thanks for the suggestion about the image size adjustment. I will keep that in mind next time.

I haven't accused anyone about merit farming. I just raised concern about this unusual behavior. I do not have the expertise to do this kind of investigation. I saw abnormal behavior in some of the local boards and wanted to know what was happening there. This topic wasn't any investigative post indeed it was a general post to know about the possible explanation.

Why not mention their name? So that they can review how this user earns merits.

Anyway, I found the first one and 2nd one is pretty hard to find because my keyboard is limited, and can't able to type in a different language.

Based on my own view of the first user, some of his posts are meritable and some of them are not. I don't know if I'm right; I just use a translator to understand the content, but I see that his posts are worth giving merit.
I think the one who can investigate further more about his posts history are those who use the same language.

As you have said you are not familiar with that language so Google Translate will not be able to give you a proper translation I think. Also as you have said some of their posts are meritable when some of them are not and i found this true after checking some of them. I think someone from that local community can investigate that matter more clearly.
484  Economy / Reputation / Re: Is there anything unusual in these screenshot? on: September 15, 2023, 04:01:52 PM
I do not want to mention their name but some members are ranking up with unusual pace and they are getting merits in their every post in local board when they can not get few merits from the global board.
I don't want to make a comment without observing closely. It requires lots of time. Anyway, the above quoted statement is wrong although it's possible that in this case, it may be true. There are a lot of users who don't post outside of the local board due to the language barrier. Or maybe they post a few times only. That's why they don't get merit in the global board. I'm not trying to say that's the case here, neither I'm saying that's not the case here. We can't tell without having a further look. Do they post on the local board only? If they post in the global section, how many times do they?
Anyway, if it's a big farm, feel free to share with logic and proofs.

I haven't accused anyone about merit farming. I just raised concern about this unusual behavior. I do not have the expertise to do this kind of investigation. I saw abnormal behavior in some of the local boards and wanted to know what was happening there. This topic wasn't any investigative post indeed it was a general post to know about the possible explanation.
485  Economy / Economics / Re: 1.34 trillion asset manager Deutsche Bank to offer Bitcoin service on: September 15, 2023, 03:52:38 PM
That’s called as good face and bad face at the same time. We can’t rely on the banks for crypto services because we would end up sending our money in the centralised possession.

Yes, not us on the forum, but many people who are now afraid of Bitcoin would buy it if they can do it through their bank and deposit it there. It is the recurring dilemma: it is not what Bitcoin was designed for, and in fact it goes against its philosophy, but it helps mass adoption and the rise in price.

Exactly! I can not blame my friend for not trusting bitcoin. It is my fault that I didn't try to spread awareness among my friends about Bitcoin or they fear to believe my word. But when they see that a large bank that they often use provides services for bitcoin they will trust it more than my word. A few of us don't trust the banking system and want to revolutionize the system, most of the people out there still have trust in banks. They will use it.
486  Economy / Reputation / Re: Is there anything unusual in these screenshot? on: September 15, 2023, 03:41:44 PM
Ranking up is not a crime. I can't say anything about this case without reading the posts, if they're not worth the Merit, you may have a point.
It's easy to find who you're talking about, just not from Mobile.
I have checked some of their merit distribution behavior. They were just sending their merits to a handful of members and it looks like most of their post is getting merit when those merit is circulating between a few of the members. I do not want to accuse anyone directly because I do not have expertise in identifying merit farming activity. I think what is happening there is wrong so brought this topic forward. It is not about only those two boards there are other local boards as well where this same thing is happening. A group of member is trying to abuse the system because of no moderation activity in some local board.
487  Economy / Reputation / Is there anything unusual in these screenshot? on: September 15, 2023, 03:17:47 PM
Can you see anything unusual in these two screenshot? From the past few month i am seeing some unusual activity in some of the local board. I do not want to mention their name but some members are ranking up with unusual pace and they are getting merits in their every post in local board when they can not get few merits from the global board. How they are doing exceptionally well only in local board? What do you think what is wrong with them?


488  Economy / Economics / Re: 1.34 trillion asset manager Deutsche Bank to offer Bitcoin service on: September 15, 2023, 02:57:31 PM
Not to be negative, but I think Custody Services by bank is too risky for both the Bank and the Customers because of Bitcoin volatility. As far as I know, when we hand over our assets to the bank for Custody service, those assets will be lended by the Bank to the other customers. If on the period of those lending, the Bitcoin price change either surge or drop significantly, it might be a disaster for the Bank and the customer.

You are right. I am thinking about the publicity and users bitcoin will get from that bank. All of them won't use their custody service when they realize the risk associated with it. Many of them will turn their faces towards non-custodial wallets. More users means money inflow into the bitcoin market. This will increase the bitcoin market cap as well. These big institutions can provoke regulators for clearer regulation as well.
489  Economy / Economics / 1.34 trillion asset manager Deutsche Bank to offer Bitcoin service on: September 15, 2023, 01:56:18 PM
When one of the world's largest banks offers such services, it gives more credibility to the industry and opens the door for wide adoption. This also shows the increase in consumer demand for digital assets like bitcoin. This will help the regulator provides clear rules and regulations to foster industry growth. Their move towards digital assets is a timely step when other top asset managers are applying for bitcoin ETFs. The demand for digital assets at the consumer end will force the regulator to come up with ideas to announce some clear regulation.




Source: https://twitter.com/WatcherGuru/status/1702325787049984186
490  Economy / Speculation / Re: Good time to sell? on: September 15, 2023, 01:28:13 PM
A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

We know it's easy to make an entry, but it is not that easy to exit. Many use different tactics to plan their exit strategy, and I think sharing my own strategy can help others. I usually use three tools to identify different market phases. Here is the name and how I am using it. I will not make this a big post. So I will not explain how they work; instead, I will add a link to where you can learn more about them, and I will only explain how I am using them.

EMA: can be used to identify bitcoin market trends.
Setting: Daily 200 EMA.
Use: Below 200 EMA indicates a bearish market trend, and above it shows a bullish market trend.

S2F Model: Can be used to predict the future price of bitcoin. This uses a simple calculation to calculate the scarcity of bitcoin.
Circulating supply of bitcoin (stock) / newly added bitcoin every year (flow) = Bitcoin S2F ratio.
Use: Red dot = starting of bull, orange and yellow = continuation of bull, green = market peak, blue = starting of bear


Hash Ribbons: Tracking bitcoin hashrate ups and downs can also give us an idea about the market. A drop in the hashrate means the market is bearish sentiment.
Setting: Weekly Chart (that green line is 30 MA and the grey line is 60 MA).
Use: When 30 MA crosses below 60 MA, that indicates a sharp fall in hashrate, and when it is opposite, it indicates an increase in hashrate, which is a bullish signal.


I use some other indicators as well, but these are mostly used to understand market sentiment. They help me to plan my stratgey to accumulate bitcoin for the long term.
491  Economy / Economics / Re: Stable coin or having USD in bank on: September 15, 2023, 12:51:02 PM

USDT will collapse and disappear quickly if the Tether company does not have enough USD to support it, or if they are hacked and print tons of USDT then it will also lose value quickly. Meanwhile, the USD is supported by the US economy and if the USD declines, USDT will also have the same problem, but the collapse of USDT will not have any effect on the USD. Therefore, in terms of safety, USDT cannot be compared with USD. If it were me, I would choose USD to deposit in the bank instead of having to put my assets in an unsecured asset like USDT.
Your opinion is clear to me because take for instance of luna how it kill many people because of peg it lost, am also a victim of such only me understand how I felt during the period. Base on my location the are favourable. USDT is a dependant so anything can happen at anytime, if any happen to USDT, the USD will never be affected because the currency is independent of it own. Let assume if today USD collapse the USDT in gone, while if USDT collapse the USD stay. We shouldn't compare the master and the servant, the two are not the same it is clear. I prefer USD than USDT for the purpose of security, and what we need is safety.

What is the point of holding stablecoin, which follows the price of a fiat currency? They both face the downside of inflation. They both lose PPP at the same time when there are better alternatives, like metals. It is better to hold metals like gold and silver instead of holding stablecoin. Crypto can be profitable if you plan to hold it for the long term. But for the short term, gold and silver are the best options instead of holding some fiat-pegged token.
492  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Legal Tender in Central African Republic on: September 15, 2023, 11:47:58 AM
Another thing in regards to position size, maybe it is the case that they are ONLY able to really put 1% to 5% of their countries investment portfolio into bitcoin kinds of building, and maybe their country is in such a disarray that they might not even be in a position to put more than 1% of their investment portfolio into bitcoin or bitcoin-related (bitcoin-focused) projects because they have to deal with getting their own house in order prior to being more aggressive in their bitcoin approach (so that they don't devolve into gambling and/or overdoing it), and so they need to assess their own situation in order to make sure that their position size does not end up contributing to their getting taken out of the bitcoin game (investment) because they had overdone it rather than being able to stick through the rough times, as you already pointed out, @slapper.
You have pointed out a reasonable factor that could have influenced the CAR government choice to discontinue Bitcoin usage. Additionally, It is possible that CAR government were unable to readjust their position of Bitcoin holding due to financial limitations. Additionally, the presence of inadequate infrastructure and lack of Bitcoin education also likely played substantial roles. Considering that only 10% of the country's population has internet access and relatively low level of social media engagement, a vital platform for spreading awareness about Bitcoin.

It is important to recognize that, despite the challenges, African nations represent most fertile grounds for Bitcoin initiation and advancement.
https://finserving.com/cryptocurrency/why-did-bitcoin-as-legal-tender-fail-in-central-african-republic

Those seem to be different reasons than what I tried to say...

I was largely trying to say that it is a matter of position size and moderation rather than pushing too much too soon.. so there is no reason for CAR to be a failure except that they were likely gambling rather than engaging in an attempt at a prudent investment strategy... the same with individuals who get into bitcoin without an adequate view of their timeline and attempt to invest in a way that is gradually building up the bitcoin position over several years, and perhaps several cycles if your finances might already be on shaky grounds, then you have to build your various finances while you are investing in bitcoin... so if someone, some institution or some government recks themselves from the way that they invested in bitcoin, then one of the ways to recovery is to start back up more slowly and with a smaller position size and maybe even expand the investment time horizon from 4-10 years and start to plan out 10-20 years or more.. which may well continue to mean building and growing in bitcoin small in order NOT to overdo it and ONLY with cash that you can afford to lose... but still nothing wrong with being somewhat aggressive in your investment as long as you do not over do it..

Every person, institution and/or government has a variety of defects, so both you, Sayeds56, and that article seem to want to blame CAR's defects for their failure to be successful in bitcoin, and of course, they have defects just like we all have defects, so maybe in stead of buying $100s of millions in bitcoin, just start out with 1 bitcoin a day or 5 bitcoin a week more something more modest and manageable, and perhaps later on, then work their way up to higher amounts, after getting their shit together.

Yeah, they should plan for 10 to 20 years of adoption. For the time being, they could have accumulated more bitcoin slowly, taken some necessary steps to adapt bitcoin in their society, and spread awareness. The technology bitcoin uses is relatively new, so CAR could work with them to educate their people about security concerns and take steps to mitigate them. They could develop some regulations to protect their consumers from scams and other fraud activity, or they could help the public agencies investigate these matters to help the law and enforcement agencies. CAR could work with the private sector to develop bitcoin-centric businesses and services to create more jobs. There was potential for an economic boost for that nation, but it seems they failed to take it.
493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in your country. on: September 13, 2023, 07:47:55 PM
Bitcoin is an outlaw in my country and the government is trying to shut it down and discourage users from trading bitcoin or any other digital assets. I once heard the news that some of the bank from our country is working with Ripple and the government is trying to take some regulatory action towards digital currencies. Their current stand indicates something else. News media spreading misinformation about bitcoin as well.
494  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Hosting - MITM (man-in-the-middle) Attack - Paying Cash To Cloudfare on: September 13, 2023, 07:41:33 PM
Theoretically, there is a risk of an MITM attack but till now there hasn't been any report of such attacks targeting Cloudflare. However, the original website still be vulnerable if they bypass the security layer of Cloudflare and do not correctly secure their server.

In short, if the website follows all the security parameters it must have, the risk of this type of attack is at the same level whether you use Cloudfare or any other service.

Now, I ask: why change something that is working well and fulfills its objective?

There is still a chance for a potential attack, but the OP didn't suggest any better options that can overcome this threat. So the best option till now is to keep the current system that is working fine until the OP comes up with a better solution.
495  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Another reason and proof to keep funds in your wallet not in an exchange on: September 13, 2023, 07:37:21 PM
Exchange words to describe its meaning. An exchange is a platform to transfer your assets with one another with security. It's a middleman that helps you to trade nothing more. Exchange is not for storing your assets. As long as your funds are in exchange you will not be in full control. Exchange can be hacked, stop withdrawals, and do other activities to seize your assets. So using a non-custodial open source wallet is advisable to store your assets that give top-notch protection.
496  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Hosting - MITM (man-in-the-middle) Attack - Paying Cash To Cloudfare on: September 13, 2023, 07:26:58 PM
The question I pose is: Is there another service, similar to Cloudflare, where the MITM danger does not exist? If so, is it really better than Cloudflare against DDOS attacks?

Cloudflare is the MITM between users and the original server. They provide a security layer infrastructure to do server protection and optimize data for end users. There are similar services like Cloudflare and they all use the same methods The only difference between them only in features. So a potential threat of MITM attack will always exist.


Another thing I would like to know was: are there reports of cases in which Cloudflare connections suffered MITM attacks? I searched and didn't find it, but maybe it wasn't a deep search.

If the original server is not properly secured then there will always be a chance of being compromised even it uses Cloudflare. I have tried to find any incident regarding that and found this. Only some ransom note HTTP DDoS attacks

Are we just talking about a possibility, or something that has already happened?

Theoretically, there is a risk of an MITM attack but till now there hasn't been any report of such attacks targeting Cloudflare. However, the original website still be vulnerable if they bypass the security layer of Cloudflare and do not correctly secure their server.


497  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I just purchased my first satoshis on: September 13, 2023, 05:25:48 PM
We are still in the bear market and have some time until the next bitcoin halving. Usually, the bitcoin price starts to gain momentum after the halving, so you have joined the space at the right moment. You have just started accumulating bitcoin, so do not listen to others on YouTube who will tell you to follow this strategy. Just keep accumulating because you don't have much time before the next halving.
498  Economy / Economics / Re: The Bullish Case for Bitcoin, reloaded. on: September 13, 2023, 05:14:05 PM
Without usage as a currency is not something you need to worry about because it is used as a currency every single day. Maybe we do not hear about it because it is not talked about that much but online payments are shifting towards more and more bitcoin, a lot more online websites that started to accept bitcoin and that means that it is going to be possible way more.

I am just waiting for amazon and steam type of companies to get back on the ship, if they do that, even if with just stablecoins, that would be amazing. Something like CBDC could make that work, because seeing the government behind something could make them work a lot better on the long run and should be doing a great return on profit as well for those companies.

What I have heard till now Bitcoin is used as a store of value. It was created to be a global currency but it has some limitations that won't let it work as a currency. Its legacy network takes a few minutes to transfer when the network is congested. Transaction fees are also high compared to fiat currencies. Just think you had to pay a 10$ transaction charge for a 20$ coffee. This doesn't make sense. Some gambling sites and few merchants accept it as a currency which doesn't make it one. When you can buy vegetables, fruits, and other daily essentials with Bitcoin it will be considered as a real currency. Till then it is a store of value for me and I am happy about that.
499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Announce your story with Bitcoin, first purchase, sale, business, education ... on: September 13, 2023, 04:37:58 PM
I can see many people don't like this topic and think it's not adding any value. Talking about someone's journey to bitcoin isn't that boring. Most of our stories are unique, and there is something to learn from them. I didn't create any topic about that in the forum, so I cannot share any links here, but what I can do is share my story here. Actually, it can't be called a story and is not as interesting as others.

My first introduction to bitcoin happened around 2017, when I was trying to find a way to earn some money. I found some spinner apps on Google Play that were paying in bitcoin. Before that, I had no idea what bitcoin was. After one month of work, I withdrew my first bitcoin to Coinbase and sold it for my local currency. After that, I started work at Airdrop, and one of my friends told me about the BitcoinTalk forum. Before that, I only knew bitcoin had value and that I could convert it to my local currency. I didn't know about its past and future potential. This mindset has changed after I joined this forum and learned what is happening here. I was amazed and studied more about it. My knowledge has grown by now, but I am still learning from this forum. It may not be an interesting story, but it is what it is.
500  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: বাংলাদেশ (Bengali) on: September 13, 2023, 06:13:48 AM
আরো কিছু বিটকয়েন হোল্ডাররা যাদের এখন পর্যন্ত কোন রেসপন্স নেই ধারণা করা হচ্ছে সে সকল ওয়ালেট গুলোও খুব সম্ভবত চিরতরে হারিয়ে গেছে।
এমন ধারনা করাটা আসলেই বোকামি/ভুল। আমরা ধরে নিচ্ছি সাতোশি নাকামোতোর ১০ লক্ষ বিটকয়েন হারিয়ে গেছে। অথচ আমরা জানিই না সাতোশির কাছে ১০ লক্ষ বিটকয়েন আছে কি না। এড্রেস গুলো অনেক আগের হওয়ায় এমন ধারনা। তাছাড়া, শুরুর দিকে শুধু সাতোশি একা মাইনিং করেছিল বলে ধারনা করা হয় কিন্তু আমি আসলে এই ব্যাপারে মানতে নারাজ। যাই হোক, যদি ধরেও নেই যে সাতোশির কাছে ১০ লক্ষ বিটকয়েন আছে, তবুও আমরা বলতে পারি না সেগুলো চিরতরে হারিয়ে গেছে। কারণ হতে পারে-
১। সাতোশি ইচ্ছে করেই সেগুলো মুভ করছে না।
২। সাতোশি ভবিষ্যতের জন্য এইগুলো রেখে গিয়েছে। গুপ্তধন হিসেবে। হয়তবা কোন একদিন কেউ এর রহস্য খুজে পাবে এবং সে সাথে সাতোশির রেখে যাওয়া বিটকয়েনও।

তবে, এমনও হতে পারে যে সাতোশি ইচ্ছে করেই কয়েনগুলো নষ্ট করেছে। তার দিক থেকে একদম ফেয়ার থাকার জন্য। শুরুর দিকে সে একা মাইনিং করলে সে অনেক বিটকয়েনের মালিক যেটা অনেকের চোখেই আনফেয়ার, যার কারনে সাতোশি সেগুলো নষ্ট করেই ফেলেছেন।

সাতশির বিটকয়েন এর বিষয়ে যত কিছুই বলা হোক না কেন সব কিছুই অনুমান নির্ভর। ১০ লক্ষ্ বিটকয়েন এর এড্রেসটা যে সাতশির সে বিষয়ে কোনো প্রমান নেই। ওই এড্রেস এর বয়স এবং প্রকৃতি দেখে সবাই অনুমান করে যে সেটা সাতোশি এর ছিলো।  নিশ্চিত ভাবে বলা না গেলেও এটা সত্য যে সাতোশি একটা বড়ো সংখ্যার বিটকয়েন প্রথমদিকের ব্লকগুলো থেকে মাইন করেছিলো। একটাও হতে পারে সাতোশি ছাড়াও আরো কিছু মাইনার প্রথমদিকে ছিলো যারা বিটকয়েন মাইনিং করেছিলো। কারণ বিটকয়েন কে সেইসময় ইন্টারনেটে ঘোষণা করে দেওয়া হয়েছিলো তাই হতেই পারে সাতোশি ছাড়াও আরো মাইনার ছিলো সেই সময়ে।

১। সাতোশি ইচ্ছে করেই সেগুলো মুভ করছে না।

আপনার এই কথার সাথে আমি একমত। ক্রিপ্টোতে হারিয়ে যাওয়া মানে বুঝাই যে বিটকয়েন গুলো অনেক দিন ধরে সরানো হয়নাই। এর মানে এটা নয় সেগুলোকে এক্সেস করা সম্ভব নয় বলা যেতে পারে সেগুলোকে ব্যবহার করা হচ্ছেনা। 
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