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481  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 24, 2014, 04:04:49 PM
sunny,

if you take his bet,

you could make out huge if Bitcoin goes up a couple grand in price over then next year Wink
482  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Esoteric Investments, LLC (up to 1% earnings) on: October 24, 2014, 03:42:04 PM
Thank you to those that signed up!

My convo today with Deej on the Eso Chatbox


(10:58:33 AM)  Big Deej: Our plan is this week to get more traffic and active users on the site so we can launch the gaming side we have been developing
(10:58:45 AM)  Digicoinz: nice
(10:58:46 AM)  Digicoinz:
(10:58:48 AM)  Digicoinz: game on!
(10:58:53 AM)  Big Deej: Should add some excitement to everything and provide an alternative revenue stream for the pool and affiliates
(10:59:05 AM)  Big Deej: we are going to pay 50% of our earnings on games to affiliates
(10:59:12 AM)  Big Deej: on referrals that play games
(10:59:27 AM)  Digicoinz: jeez
(10:59:30 AM)  Big Deej: And they are non house risk games
(10:59:34 AM)  Digicoinz: a lil generous there
(10:59:37 AM)  Big Deej: So you don't play against us
(10:59:53 AM)  Big Deej: We aren't risking the bets against the players so its worth the commission
(11:00:02 AM)  Digicoinz: cool
(11:00:04 AM)  Digicoinz: Smiley
(11:00:06 AM)  Big Deej: My goal isn't just to make myself rich but to build a network of people who become rich with me
(11:00:16 AM)  Digicoinz: right on!
483  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 24, 2014, 03:39:49 PM


lol, I don't want your breadcrumbs. Though I lost my latest shares in BT, I made almost 100K net profit with them.

Im offering 200BTC net profit. Is that breadcrumbs to you? Last I checked thats pretty close to your proclaimed heist. Im sure a few other people will be willing to up the ante on the same conditions, and pool a few 100 BTC extra. Tell me, how much do you want to put in to it?

I doubt you have 200 BTC.

lol you've been served


484  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 24, 2014, 03:34:05 PM
Deja vu all over again...

It's funny how it works, but I guess there's always new suckers out there.

SUCCKKKIIIIINGGGGG can be very profitable dude - as my experience with BT proves. I am confident that my next adventure with Esoteric will be as profitable  Cool


Ditto Cheesy
485  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Esoteric Investments, LLC (up to 1% earnings) on: October 24, 2014, 03:09:54 PM
The settings page has been update, you can change your email and chatbox user name!
486  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 24, 2014, 03:08:28 PM
Esoteric has an official chatbox for members to talk LIVE with each other and the company owner!
487  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Esoteric Investments, LLC (up to 1% earnings) on: October 24, 2014, 03:05:34 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tpnhz-lxqQKydWjGuEBcfo2hhYURlD8jAc-HtcOHLDacqTVz5ouKkNQU5DvFN3O-b9R7xwkPBTZVLW44/view?usp=sharing



From my account, my shares and earnings to date!

The site also just added a new chatbox today! we can now talk amongst the members and the company owner!


488  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 24, 2014, 02:42:53 PM
Thank you sunny,

i have a thread just for esoteric, i think any questions or comments could be moved there in regards to esoteric since it's completely separate from BT and unrelated.  oh and one more thing, unlike BT, with Esoteric, There's an actual HUMAN being that I was able to speak with by PHONE. this wasn't even possible with BT. there was no human contact, just emails from god knows where answered by god knows who lol.

Dan Pace and Glenn Crystal Are real people that live in the USA. If you don't believe it, write support on the site. or contact him through this forum (fyi BT didn't have any company owner posting on a forum (that we know of)) so this is nice that esoteric has an actual company owner keeping us updated on new developments and operations.

 I spoke with Dan on the Phone he answered all my questions. He didn't have any uhms, well or trying to avoid my questions when we spoke.  He was very kind, up front and knows his business. And don't worry about the design of the site, websites change their layouts/design all the time. just look at youtube/amazon etc. how many times have they changed, or had their own problems on the site. yet people always use them.


Go here for the thread on Esoteric

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829885.0


Thanks!




489  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Esoteric Investments, LLC (up to 1% earnings) on: October 24, 2014, 02:33:54 PM
for those that wish to join and support my efforts to get real information about the company to the public, join up here

https://www.esotericinvestments.com/?refid=55
490  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Esoteric Investments, LLC (up to 1% earnings) on: October 24, 2014, 02:27:27 PM
https://www.esotericinvestments.com/pr/oct-22-2014.php

update on operations!


My first payouts>>>

491  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 24, 2014, 02:24:17 PM
again, all I see are people making an empty allegation, and wasting forum space.

you guys just bored or something?

The company just started this year, just because they have some elements about them that "seem" similar to the business model of another site, doesn't call for ablolute assurance that they are doing the exact same thing.

Remember, with BT we still don't know they actually operated as a ponzi. no one and i mean NO ONE has yet posted any documentation EVIDENCING this. Just lot of ppl blowing smoke up each other's asses do get ppl stirred up.


So chill out, and let Esoteric get their shit together, all new businesses can't possibly have all every lil aspect covered a 100% because nobody can predict the future, as things change so does a company, and so far as we have seen up to this point, Esoteric has been extremely up front with their business.

And granted most of you are critical hanging on every word phantom trader says, or myself, and trying to look for any "sign" of ponzi, is fine, but keep your words to yourself until you have the evidence to indicate otherwise.  


Because right now all you are doing is Assuming. and We all know those that assume (are making an ass out of you and me).

Be civil people, seriously.
492  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 23, 2014, 11:55:59 PM
why don't you actually do some bitcoin trading yourself and see what is actually possible.



http://www.coindesk.com/mit-bitcoin-trading-simulation-yields-profit-89-50-days/


read this
493  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 23, 2014, 11:46:33 PM
Yes
494  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 23, 2014, 11:42:43 PM
ok ignoramus, how about you show that in fact esoteric is operating as a ponzi before you make unbacked accusations. you can be sued for libel, you know that?

until you have the proof of it, keep your trap shut.
495  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 23, 2014, 11:28:47 PM
Follow up to esoteric Investments,

Today Dan Pace actually called my house! (i left my number on the support ticket on the company's website , https://www.esotericinvestments.com/?refid=55)

They are real company, currently they operate the business from home on their personal computer. They have an office they will be renting and moving into which will give them a lil more official look. but primarily their focus is on the mechanics of the trading system/strategy, payouts and withdrawals. also they are looking for a graphics designer to hire on to spruce up the site design if anybody is interested. In addition i recommended (and they already are working on this) to put a live member/support chat room on the site itself, either through skype or another service.

Anybody interested can contact Dan @ 732 903 8379 (google voice), for further info, or through the website itself.


I'll post up any new developments as it comes along.



496  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 23, 2014, 07:57:22 AM
yes, because this situation is a different METHOD, so has to be treated entirely different. but also we have to realize bitcoin is a whole new system of moving money, with new concepts and money making opportunities that are being discovered and exploited.

497  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 23, 2014, 07:38:26 AM
in that case brokerages shouldn't need ppl's money to operate their business.
498  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 23, 2014, 06:53:57 AM
*thumbs up*
499  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 23, 2014, 04:53:08 AM
ya its obv these hyips are becoming more sophisticated and elaborate, with pretty convincing arguments to sway the ppl.

but i think what a lot of ppl didn't really think about, was about actually trying to get the proof of how exactly BT was making their profits. I wrote support about this once, and they never responded. thats when i pulled out my money as soon as my initial principle was released. i hadn't invested again after that.

there was a lack of transparency when it came down to the meat and potatoes of their operation. and this is something i'm persuing aggressively with Esoteric, to get that proof. cause all trading activities on the exchanges are recorded, and its smth they can definitely provide to their customer base without risk of comprimising company operations.


so i'll post any information I get.
500  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 23, 2014, 04:33:36 AM
words are words on the internet. so let's wait and see if anyone actually is able to meet the operators of this company in person. And if they really are running this in the united states, then they will be caught fast and swiftly terminated.

but for now they are paying. and i've been in correspondence with them for a couple days. I've also called their company and spoke with real person confirming the company's existence.

fyi i am not a rep or employee of esoteric investments. just a member stating my experience with them up to this point.
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