Hey guys!
First of all i want to say Great job for this project.
I want to ask you about wbb chat app. Can some1 pls explain me, i am no tech, why this chat is so safe compare with other similar product(telegram messenger etc)
Thanks
Hi, sure it has a much higher encryption standard to start with . Users are created with two ECC (secp521) key pairs one for key derivation, and one for signing. The username plus key pairs create a ‘WBB Chat identity’. This identity is stored on the device symmetrically encrypted using 256 bit AES-GCM with a PKCS5S2 key derived from the user’s password (plus salt and other data). The public keys are uploaded to the server where they are signed by the server using the server’s private key. A user may create multiple identities and switch between them at will. To login the client generates a signature using the identity’s private signing key against the username, password, and randomly generated data. The server validates the client provided username, password, and aforementioned signature against its stored public signing key for the identity in question. As the exchange occurs over SSL, session cookies are thought to be a secure enough mechanism to facilitate authentication. The fact that messages could not be decrypted by a session hijacker given the end to end encryption nature of the system also factors into this decision. Use case: lost/stolen phoneuser lost his phone, luckily he has his identities backed up on Google drive user buys a new phone and installs WBB Chat & WBB Dashboard user restores his identities from the backup user generates a new pair of key pairs successfully attacker with old phone receives revoke message old phone knows revoke message is from the same user and promptly logs out and deletes any related data any subsequent authentication attempts on old phone will be rejected In a nutshell ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev That's pretty sweet actually, didn't know it was that in depth...impressive. Telegrams specs here to compare: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_(software) Architecture[edit] Encryption scheme[edit] A simplified illustration of the MTProto encryption scheme. Telegram uses a symmetric encryption scheme called MTProto. The protocol was developed by Nikolai Durov and other developers at Telegram and is based on 256-bit symmetric AES encryption, RSA 2048 encryption and Diffie–Hellman key exchange.[39] Since 2013,[44] cryptography experts have expressed both doubts and criticisms on the MTProto encryption scheme, saying that deploying home-brewed and unproven cryptography may render the encryption vulnerable to bugs that potentially undermine its security, due to a lack of scrutiny.[45][46] It has also been suggested that Telegram did not employ developers with sufficient expertise or credibility in this field.[47] In December 2015, two researchers from Aarhus University published a report in which they demonstrated that MTProto does not achieve indistinguishability under chosen-ciphertext attack (IND-CCA) or authenticated encryption.[45] The former means that it is possible to turn any ciphertext into a different ciphertext that decrypts to the same message. The researchers stressed that the attack was of a theoretical nature and they "did not see any way of turning the attack into a full plaintext-recovery attack".[45] Servers[edit] Telegram Messenger LLP has servers in a number of counties throughout the world to improve the response time of their service.[48] Telegram's server-side software is closed-source and proprietary. Pavel Durov has said that it would require a major architectural redesign of the server-side software to connect independent servers to the Telegram cloud.[49] The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has listed Telegram on its "Secure Messaging Scorecard". As of 7 December 2015, Telegram's default chat function has a score of 4 out of 7 points on the scorecard. It has received points for having communications encrypted in transit, having its code open to independent review, having the security design properly documented, and having completed an independent security audit. Telegram's default chat function is missing points because the communications are not encrypted with keys the provider doesn't have access to, users can't verify contacts' identities, and past messages are not secure if the encryption keys are stolen. Telegram's optional secret chat function, which provides end-to-end encryption, has a score of 7 out of 7 points on the scorecard.[62] An earlier version of the EFF's scorecard was criticized for being inaccurate, misleading and vague, but not specifically with regard to its evaluation of Telegram.[63] HI, WBB Chat Spec here: https://wildbeastbitcoin.com/apps/wbb-chat/two ECC (secp521) key pairs = 2 x 521bit (512bit plus 9 random bits from anywhere on the device) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
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Hey guys!
First of all i want to say Great job for this project.
I want to ask you about wbb chat app. Can some1 pls explain me, i am no tech, why this chat is so safe compare with other similar product(telegram messenger etc)
Thanks
Hi, sure it has a much higher encryption standard to start with . Users are created with two ECC (secp521) key pairs one for key derivation, and one for signing. The username plus key pairs create a ‘WBB Chat identity’. This identity is stored on the device symmetrically encrypted using 256 bit AES-GCM with a PKCS5S2 key derived from the user’s password (plus salt and other data). The public keys are uploaded to the server where they are signed by the server using the server’s private key. A user may create multiple identities and switch between them at will. To login the client generates a signature using the identity’s private signing key against the username, password, and randomly generated data. The server validates the client provided username, password, and aforementioned signature against its stored public signing key for the identity in question. As the exchange occurs over SSL, session cookies are thought to be a secure enough mechanism to facilitate authentication. The fact that messages could not be decrypted by a session hijacker given the end to end encryption nature of the system also factors into this decision. Use case: lost/stolen phoneuser lost his phone, luckily he has his identities backed up on Google drive user buys a new phone and installs WBB Chat & WBB Dashboard user restores his identities from the backup user generates a new pair of key pairs successfully attacker with old phone receives revoke message old phone knows revoke message is from the same user and promptly logs out and deletes any related data any subsequent authentication attempts on old phone will be rejected In a nutshell ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
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Well... In last days I have come to not very good asumptipns. Actually I don't see any growth of WBB regarding price. This is great project, one of the rare with such an active dev, giving to community any info about even smallest updates. Unfortunately, only few legit coins are valued as deserved. Others are just floating, because sp called whales don't even intend to touch those. And most crypto high volume trades are done with scams. So much scam schemes around. Those get unbelievable caps, volumes, gains. It's a sad sad sad situation.
Look at CPC... Once again Bittrex hosts GRID style coin. Why not? They would say... We have good income from scams. We are just a platform for trading. Many good coins are denied by Bittrex, but these are hosted with gratest welcome.
Peter, your project should be valued with millions usd cap, if we look relatively. The fact is fact... WBB is at measly 90BTC or 36k USD. I believe that you with 1ex.trade can change overall crypto world ethics to good.
Cheers
Cheers
It will just take time. I welcome anyone on twitter to tweet @CryptoOz and I will retweet (WWB or 1EX). I try to keep an eye on everything, but sometimes the feed cannot be kept up with. Keep up the good work. Hi, Now that is an offer what can not be refused. Community members use this offer to twitter about 1ex.trade, 1EX & WBB. It will take time but we get there. Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
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Hi,
There are now over 90 trade combinations possible on 1ex.trade and coinigy for the coins we have listed.
Lets start moving and start trading on 1EX.TRADE.
Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
No bid and ask? NEW ? Hi, Yes it is a new exchange launched in the beginning of January 2016 thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
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Hi,
There are now over 90 trade combinations possible on 1ex.trade and coinigy for the coins we have listed.
Lets start moving and start trading on 1EX.TRADE.
Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
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Hi,
Not so sure how many time we should says to update your wallet to v4.5, we still see a wallet from germany on this version. You will not be able to use your coins,update your wallet to v4.5
Der was noch immer die v1.0 wallet hat von WBB sollte schön langsam ein update machen zu v4.5. Die coins sind in der v1. wallet unbrauchbar
Thanks & Schöne grüsse WBB & 1EX Dev
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Very few exchanges I would actually trust, after the big crytorush saga in 2014(if anyone remembers), I lost a fortune then! And somehow still feel the effects to this day!
I think that is the lesson almost every single crypto user had to experience at some stage, to bigger or lesser extent. In my case it was coinex.pw who stole my funds (they sold the coins on Mintpal afterwards). That lesson helped me to avoid problems with cryptorush, Mintpal, Cryptsy,... Hi +1 to this on and it is time that the scene changes, there is no need for it and the market can be so much bigger once trust is in the market. thanks
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Hi, We have now the full range on coinigy app on any trade from 1EX.TRADE. Any new pairing will be added automatically. Next week you will have teh rest from them also ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It looks better every time . Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev Dev why WD BTA does not run at all ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Hi, BTA works fine, please check your ticket Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
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Hi, We have now the full range on coinigy app on any trade from 1EX.TRADE. Any new pairing will be added automatically. Next week you will have teh rest from them also ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It looks better every time . Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
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wbb still need more volume nothing before 12k but wbb blocked at 7800 since a month
Hi, Move over to 1EX.TRADE and start trading there, place your orders there, eventually they switch ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) thanks
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What happens on C-CEX! I tried to reveal scams in trollbox. I asked support to freeze DEUR trading. Support answered that everything is ok with it. Wallet works, chain moves, they don't see anything for the cause to freeze DEUR scammers activities. They stated C-CEX is just a platform to trade. They do not investigate for fraud and are not responsible for the particular coins that are listed. Everything is on customers decisions and research. But DEUR is massively premined.
Later I tried to inform people not to buy that coin. I was banned for ten hours.
Crypto world is full of shit, I mean nothing fair is left in it.
For me C-CEX is dead. That is scam site all in all. They support scam coins, list those, and then ban all those, who try to inform people stay away from buying a coin.
Now they deactivated my account and stole my money! What can I do now?!
I can't access it and there is said user is not found, when I try to recover!
Hi, I would write to them and ask for a formal explanation why your account is looked. Also provide them with a payment address where they can send your funds to. thanks They answered that I was too much unbehaving in trollbox, that's why my account is desactivated. My last message was the question to define what is spam in their chat box. But this is not the reason to keep my funds. They can lock me from trading but not from access to money that I have on their platform. I already wrote to support, even apologizing for my behaviour. If they'll not let me get access to my money, then this tells everything about their platform. Once again fighting for the fairness costs you money, sometimes very much of it! If I had 20BTC there, did C-CEX take them from me just for unbehaving??? hi They can block you on chat box .. OK fair enough if you said something against their rule. They can not or should not lock your account because of it, OK they can say we don't want your business but they must provide you with means of retrieving your funds and lock you from any further trading. Once funds are been send to you they can close it. thanks
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What happens on C-CEX! I tried to reveal scams in trollbox. I asked support to freeze DEUR trading. Support answered that everything is ok with it. Wallet works, chain moves, they don't see anything for the cause to freeze DEUR scammers activities. They stated C-CEX is just a platform to trade. They do not investigate for fraud and are not responsible for the particular coins that are listed. Everything is on customers decisions and research. But DEUR is massively premined.
Later I tried to inform people not to buy that coin. I was banned for ten hours.
Crypto world is full of shit, I mean nothing fair is left in it.
For me C-CEX is dead. That is scam site all in all. They support scam coins, list those, and then ban all those, who try to inform people stay away from buying a coin.
Now they deactivated my account and stole my money! What can I do now?!
I can't access it and there is said user is not found, when I try to recover!
Hi, I would write to them and ask for a formal explanation why your account is looked. Also provide them with a payment address where they can send your funds to. thanks
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When there will be second round of shares sale Peter?
do you already have orders for them?
Later on, we want to finish of a few things. Will let you all know when the next date is. Thanks
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Hi, If you like to see how and to what 1EX.TRADE is evolving to, keep checking demo.wildbeastbitcoin.com/This demo site will change over time and will show you what is coming next on v2. It is an semi interactive wireframe and will form the base of the new design / functions and layouts. Copyright @ 1EX.TRADE 2016 - All rights reserved Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
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Why would my IP address have been banned from 1ex?
Hi, IP addresses get block for various reasons. Can you send us a personal msg and we have a look. Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
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hi all,
hey Peter, it's nice to see that 1ex.trade is integrated in coinigy. Thank you for your hard work.
Hi Welcome to our msg board. Hope you will also join us trading on 1EX Thank WBB & 1EX Dev
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Where did you get your wallet from? Is it the most updated? Try using one of the older wallets, or compiling your own wallet on linux. The version that gives the least amount of sync trouble is 0.8.6.
One of the 0.10 versions breaks sync because someone mined 750 blocks with it, then switched back to 0.8 and started mining again, so I had to increase the super majority protocol to 7500 blocks. Try that and see how far you get.
And you can here give a functional version of the wallet and the current backup blockchain? I am waiting almost two weeks and no support. absolutely no effort TO HELP Hi, Not our board but... check version 0.10.2.2 if you have this and let me know Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
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Hi, 1Ex.Trade is now integrated in coinigy. - We are right on top ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) - Trading directly from the coinigy app on 1Ex over API. We recommend you definitely check out the app and get it. Get your 30 days free with coinigy. This means 1000's more traders will see 1EX by next week - Balance Tracking & Order Management will be integrated next week also. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMP1s89F.jpg&t=663&c=BuRvnxaZt3Advg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F350Zbsf.jpg&t=663&c=Fncs1kSDCugydg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FShtVbSs.jpg&t=663&c=xp4_yKRN2Bp45A) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxRbhtz7.jpg&t=663&c=v4NMGO6vg_MdSg) Thanks WBB & 1EX Dev
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Hi,
If a developer wants to list a coin he needs to request a listing on the exchange using the help/faq section on 1ex.trade. After this we review the coin, history and more incl verification.
Thanks
WBB & 1EX Dev
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Hi,
The developer of BATA coin (BTA) has been fully verified and the coin has been added to 1EX.TRADE for trading.
Thanks
WBB & 1EX Dev
Thank you and BTA will be actively promoting the exchange. I also submitted the info to coinmarketcap - so hopefully they will add soon. CoinGecko said they would add it to their exchanges to integrate list. Hi, Thank you for also requesting to CMC and CoinGecko 1EX is also as we speak integrated in to Coinigy trading app
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