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481  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 31, 2012, 10:55:57 PM
Actually, zefir, merely what you have said is comforting. ty

And fits what I was expecting. The board members acting as a 'half-way house' where credibility/sincerity can be established without doing a full-monty to the entire public.

And, I hope, helping to smooth out or suggest clarification of statements before they are released to the unwashed mob who might misinterpret text presented in good faith.
482  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1423GH] ABCPool PPS - Proxy Pool For High & Steady Mining Rewards on: August 31, 2012, 05:27:36 PM
whats the eta on fixing the shares not being paid out ?
My estimate is we'll have it corrected within the next 5 days.
I've not seen a follow-up post to this.

Status?
483  Other / Off-topic / Re: 896 mh/s firmware release - Butterfly Labs on: August 31, 2012, 03:59:02 PM
fred0, I have been mis-quoted here.

Could you fix that, please?

edit: fixed. Thank you.

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"So, what is the problem?"

To understate it, neither accurate statements nor customer service is BFL's strong suite.

Perhaps you should expect a resolution in 'four to six weeks'.  Wink
484  Other / Off-topic / Re: 896 mh/s firmware release - Butterfly Labs on: August 31, 2012, 03:28:55 PM
fred0, even after you get a binary for 792, be prepared for it to be flakey.

It didn't work well for me, and there have been other reports of problems also.

Fortunately for me, with my device and in my ambient temp, 800 works fine.
485  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2400 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/PPS/DGM/Merged Mining/Dwolla Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: August 30, 2012, 05:35:42 PM
What? All his posts are now deleted from this thread.

Trying to clean up some tracks is he?
486  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2400 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/PPS/DGM/Merged Mining/Dwolla Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: August 30, 2012, 05:24:34 PM
are you sure you do not want me to pay the BTC?
Now that sounds like a good idea.

pozhuk should pay Inaba / the pool every BTC which has ever been distributed to him.
487  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2400 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/PPS/DGM/Merged Mining/Dwolla Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: August 30, 2012, 05:22:47 PM
You should not have that!
Consistently eloquent.

Sounds like the garbage has come.
And now you get to eat it.
488  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2400 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/PPS/DGM/Merged Mining/Dwolla Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: August 30, 2012, 04:54:43 PM
your ass in the pool, the last six months, every day some problems, but now do not pay BTC

Sounds oddly like a non-compliant haiku.
It does sound somehow poetic.

However, maybe it is merely: "comes that the garbage?"

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edit: Perhaps "your ass in the pool" can strive for the fame of "All your base belong to us"?
489  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Modular Python Bitcoin Miner - Official Thread on: August 29, 2012, 09:02:03 PM
It is actually a known problem that it doesn't work with Firefox.
Not a missing python package issue.

Wouldn't know about IE, haven't used it for years.

Works fine with Safari from OS X.

You might try that or Opera.
490  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Modular Python Bitcoin Miner - Official Thread on: August 29, 2012, 07:18:30 AM
How to use json to get data from MPBM.

It would have saved me quite a few hours if an example of this type had been available, so, here it is for anyone else who might be looking.

The 'magic' involved is having to set the headers on the request in order to receive a non-null response.
E.g.,
curl <url> -d "1"  -H "DNT: 1" -H "If-Modified-Since:Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:00:00 GMT" -H "Content-Type:application/json"

You can find examples of required <url> in the Python example below.

This gives a quick test to ensure the web-server / mpbm is working before you get bogged down in "why is urllib3 throwing that exception?". Smiley

(BTW, "requests" is a third party library. Free to use it seems. You can find it if you need it.)
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#!/usr/bin/env python
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-

# Path hack.
import sys
import os
sys.path.insert(0, os.path.abspath('..'))
import json
import unittest
import pickle
import tempfile
from pprint import pprint
import datetime
import time

import requests
from requests.compat import str, StringIO
from requests import HTTPError
from requests import get, post, head, put
from requests.auth import HTTPBasicAuth, HTTPDigestAuth
from requests.exceptions import InvalidURL

# curl <url> -d "1"  -H "DNT: 1" -H "If-Modified-Since:Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:00:00 GMT" -H "Content-Type:application/json"

def getDataFromMPBM():
  auth = HTTPBasicAuth('admin', 'mpbm')
  headers = {'content-type' : 'application/json', 'DNT' : '1', 'If-Modified-Since' : 'Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:00:00 GMT' }

  workerURL = 'http://host.domain.com:8832/api/statsgadget/getworkerstats'
  blockchainURL = 'http://host.domain.com:8832/api/statsgadget/getblockchainstats'
  worksourceURL = 'http://host.domain.com:8832/api/statsgadget/getworksourcestats'
  allURL = 'http://host.domain.com:8832/api/statsgadget/getallstats'

  r = requests.post(workerURL, auth=auth, data='1', headers=headers, prefetch=True)

  #print(json.dumps( r.json, sort_keys = True, indent = 4 ) )
  workerResponse = json.loads( r.text )
  #pprint( workerResponse )

  return workerResponse

tempHigh = 0.0
tempLow = 100.0
while( True ):
  workerResponse = getDataFromMPBM()

  startTime = datetime.datetime.fromtimestamp( workerResponse[ 'starttime' ] )
  dataTime = datetime.datetime.fromtimestamp( workerResponse[ 'timestamp' ] )
  upTime = dataTime - startTime
  tempNow = workerResponse['workers'][0]['temperature']
  if tempNow < tempLow : tempLow = tempNow
  if tempNow > tempHigh : tempHigh = tempNow
  #print( upTime )
  print( '{0:.1f} \tHigh: {2:.1f} \tLow: {3:.1f} \t{1}'.format( tempNow, dataTime, tempHigh, tempLow ) )

  time.sleep( 9.991 )


exit()
491  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 29, 2012, 05:51:32 AM
This very early post discusses the issue a bit. With some clarification IMO.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1088302#msg1088302
"The unsold shares may be sold later, but hopefully with a higher price if we successfully produced our first batch of chips."

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This was what I should have found earlier when I got distracted by distribution of 'extra' shares. Which are not "unsold" shares. (The extra were the 10% and 12.5% 'discounts' for large direct block purchasers.)

The difficulty I see with just leaving these shares unsold / undistributed is their 'proxy' power. Even if Bitfountain doesn't directly vote them as a proxy and they are left to abstain, any amount less than 200,000 in non-Bitfountain hands/control gives Bitfountain a greater than 50% effective vote.

But the quote above makes this situation clearly possible. And that statement was made prior to the IPO.
492  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Announcement] Butterfly Labs on: August 28, 2012, 10:28:02 PM
An 8088 microprocessor is an ASIC. So is a Pentium. So is this year's i7.

Are there any significant performance steps between them?
493  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Modular Python Bitcoin Miner - Official Thread on: August 28, 2012, 04:30:54 PM
I don't think so. Just watch for a while to ensure you are getting as many shares accepted per minute as you expect. In my case, I'm getting almost exactly, or perhaps slightly better, results as I was getting with cgminer.

However, a tip, if you want to leave the monitor web page up for long periods you'll need to change the log level to something like 200 in two places. Both for the web output and for the stdout output. If you don't do that it will develop a problem (bad) in a half day to a couple of days of continuous running.

--

Hmmm, just went to increase the log level for web output to verify that I also was getting those messages (I 'think' I was) and see that there is no longer a log level setting for the web gui. So, that problem may have been resolved.

I'm using a version pulled straight from the git repository since I wanted to take a look at some of the work in progress. Depending on where you got your distribution there could be some minor variances.
494  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Modular Python Bitcoin Miner - Official Thread on: August 28, 2012, 03:23:04 PM
I never found a good way (one which satisfied me) to have mpbm do an actual hot/backup configuration.

However, it does an excellent job of equally sharing work among two to many work-sources.

So, my suggestion, pick two pools which you find both to be satisfactory and split your shares between them. Or, Ozcoin and EclipseMC both have multiple independent servers which you can point work-sources at and then all the shares get credited to the same account.
495  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 28, 2012, 09:32:18 AM
I would not be so sure that it was actually his fault.
No, not necessarily.

My opinion was based on this:
"I think I have a good idea what might have happened.  My GLBSE session was still active after closing the browser tab.  I spent some time on web freenode and was probed and compromised from that source.
Speculation, but it's the best thing I can come up with."

IOWs, he closed the tab, but did not log off, then did some wanton browsing.
496  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 28, 2012, 09:21:35 AM
how the hell would a 2fa protect any glbse user from the alleged "session fixation attack"?

It wouldn't.

As he subsequently stated.

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His prophylactic practices were inadequate.
He suffered the penalties.
497  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bounty: a bitstream for better utilizing the Cairnsmore1 157-294.5btc on: August 28, 2012, 09:00:41 AM
Oh, BTW, thank you Glasswalker and makomk.

Once I actually *have* some of these boards, I'll send some BTC to y'all.

(And, TheSeven. Which is high time since I'm using MPBM with my BFL Single. And I've enjoyed hacking the Python some myself.)
498  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bounty: a bitstream for better utilizing the Cairnsmore1 157-294.5btc on: August 28, 2012, 08:57:02 AM
Is it now time to close/lock this thread and redirect all conversation over to "Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€"?

I'm in favor of having one less thread to watch. Smiley
499  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 28, 2012, 08:55:18 AM
I don't really understand what you're saying, xkrikl.

"let them have a vote in some decisions"

They have no more nor less 'vote' than their number of shares weighted against all the other shares.

"only as a communication platform"

Yes. Their only significant 'power' is the ability to 'examine the books' of the 'company'. That is, verify, or not, that Bitfountain is doing what they say they're doing.

As such, they have a vested interest in 'making things look rosy'. That is, communicate good news to the community until they benefit from an inflated share price and can dump their stock. (After which, of course, they could then 'bare their souls' and tell everyone why they sold all they had. So, in a sense, they are canaries in the coal mine.)

Really, I only see the board member position as a, reasonable, way for Bitfountain to restrict who all they need to communicate fully with while at the same time having a credible amount of transparency.

Credible is the key word here. And now that the IPO is finished, it is pretty much a moot point.

We have all placed our bets. We'll see how they come out.
500  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Announcement] Butterfly Labs on: August 28, 2012, 08:27:46 AM
I was to understand there would be cookies...
Sure.

But they will be stale. (Less tasty than advertised.)
And delivered a day late. (four to six weeks == how the hell should I know when)
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