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481  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: 🌟RE-OPENED! Claimbitcoin.top | New Type Of Faucet | Get Bitcoin From playing🌟 on: January 02, 2017, 05:15:06 PM
Thanks for the boost admin, it will realy make me achieve my target faster then i expected, i do hope you can clean the issue of the shortener. Sounds good the referal contest that will be made to bring more players to the game, this is the second game im present and i do hope both stay forever and able to share good payouts.
482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: January 02, 2017, 04:49:28 PM
Casinos has proven already they are trusted as bankrolls managements, atleast its the way it loose like, there were a report here about a 5 btc investment and after 5 months he has 1 btc as profit, sounds amazing how this industry does mooves soo many bitcoins, i can say that this is the main place where people do spend their bitcoins.
483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: January 02, 2017, 04:14:15 PM
With the last jump of bitcoin op gets 5000 dollars besides the 1 bitcoin as profit after 5 monhts with this investments, soo you made 0,20 btc into the casinos bankrolls, currently more then the possible signatures earnings, and well im shocked and happy to see something really working at crypto world.
484  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think BTC will hit 2000 USD feb 17 on: January 02, 2017, 03:59:04 PM
Since we are back once again to the 4 digits im very happy, and this time there wont be a bubble into bitcoin to make it grow too fast and get dumped more faster, this time the value of bitcoin looks solid, even if it get back to the 900 dollars, we know that we will stand at the 4 digits, the sucess has been achieved once again, i werent expect bitcoin soo high this year, but 2000 dollars its out of question. If the projects that are being made get ready this year we will see a huge demand for bitcoin for sure, but lets see how the projects will get live.
485  Economy / Economics / Re: Recap at 2016, have you reached your financial goals? on: January 02, 2017, 03:32:40 PM
Currently im working into my goals at bitcoin at the moment, with that i do hope to start my goal for this year that is saving all coins i will get from mine investements. From the last year i had an issue with a target i had but well, this is the month i do expect to have all things missing done.
486  Economy / Speculation / Re: What has affected the price of Bitcoin? on: January 02, 2017, 03:04:50 PM
Still a mysterious why the price went soo up and keeps growing at the moment, Venuzela, India does have something with those last jump, but i never expexted that those countries issues would impact soo fast into bitcoin at all. Its becoming harder to get bitcoin for free as well to purchase bitcoin nowadays.
487  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Microsoft Excel supporting Bitcoin ! on: January 02, 2017, 02:34:11 PM
Knowing several people does use Excel for their financial reports and control, its a huge step if we do see implemented the symbol of bitcoin, microsoft always follows inovation, and the new trend is bitcoin. Lets see how this free promotion will impact into bitcoin till the end of the year.
488  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: 🌟RE-OPENED! Claimbitcoin.top | New Type Of Faucet | Get Bitcoin From playing🌟 on: January 01, 2017, 02:31:14 PM
Thanks for the bonus, already spent it, i had invested 100k satoshis to try to advance faster and till the moment the game sounds good, im dreaming already with the day 30 to see how much we will get from those ratio exchange.


I had found this promotion at anoter forum i im member of:



We wanna challenge you!!

Get 10000 gold points till end the month and earn :

50000 gold
2000 claw
2000 gem
2000 iron


This will be given to top 50 members to achieve those ammount.


Will you credit those ammount as we achieve those gold ammount? Because im currently at 20k gold earned from the mine outside the bonus.
489  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Dwarven Bitmine - Earn some satoshis with that game on: January 01, 2017, 02:25:36 PM
@cz3kit how much you are earning from your site to fulfill the payment of your user?

I dont see why op would share the money he his making at all, as long the income will be able to cover the earnings from the players wont be any issue with how much they are earning. As always stated op does wanna to reach better ads, that will be possible with traffic, soo soon or later we will achieve those networks, and well top 10 has used those boost well, and congratulations mrcash, you have already the most expensive upgrades in game, now its question of time and management to full upgrade your mine.
490  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: January 01, 2017, 01:55:32 PM
This is a non sense idea, bitcoin its decentralized, doing such we will centralize our coins into one single person, that could easy manipulate the trading market and possible kill it, soo without any income from trading people would try to find other ways to get an income with bitcoin. This is something i do hope wont happen, this will destroy the freedom that bitcoin does allow to all, if you searching for interest of your coins try poloniex lending, or lend here with a colateral always rule.
491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We need an incentive to make first world population use Bitcoin on: January 01, 2017, 01:38:33 PM
Bitcoin has already a lot advantages against fiat, besides the huge potencial to get more value over time, sure some discounts can be made with bitcoin that with fiat couldnt be possible, but those is suposed to be the extra income the seller will get since he/she will save a good ammount at the fees it would pay to sell their products.
492  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin recovering ? on: December 31, 2016, 10:06:16 PM
What keeps me being surprised is that there is any real new that could make bitcoin reach such value as now, besides the all wanna to turn on their miners to achieve profit. Soo for me this is the miners pushing the price up to get more income as well. I were expecting a end year with 800 dollars, and we are very above those, be aware a dump is something almost sure to happen on the 2017, as a pump may happen, bring back the old numbers and change with news values.
493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Great way to make Bitcoin! on: December 31, 2016, 09:52:53 PM
I doubt gambling is the best way to try to make bitcoin, i do know by experience that trading, and forex might allow easy and fast money, but you need to stay online to follow the signals and make your bets. The best free way to get bitcoin is signatures or owm projects, this is the best sorces of bitcoin at the moment.
494  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you regret spending money on this year? on: December 31, 2016, 09:44:07 PM
The only regret for this year happened this month, when i invested all my capital into stellar, and i went into lending at poloniex, the rates were 1-3% daily, i had lended my coins and stellar reached 400 satoshis i had bought them cheaper and those would mean something like 0,06-0.09 btc as profit. My regret even doing a good income with the lending rates were those one i ended loose a great opportunity.
495  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: December 29, 2016, 10:48:51 PM
For bitcoin had a stable price we wouldnt have the halving over it, soo all the coins would be already mined, i dont see it as an advantage, but the fact that bitcoin were traded at 1 dollar and lower from the begining, makes me believe it would be easy to have bitcoin shared with a lowe value, but the thing is people does are at bitcoin to make money, soo they like the volatilaty and is one of the main reasons people does invest and get into bitcoin nowadays.
496  Economy / Service Discussion / hasnest which one is best s7 or s9 for cloud mining? on: December 29, 2016, 09:54:44 PM
I do wanna to invest here as looks the only legit and where i can sell the hash to achieve roi, something like 10 months is what the most people says.


Soo my question now is i do see s7 market costing around 5000 satoshis for each ghs, and the s9 is at 14000 satoshis at the moment.

Fees grom s7 is $0.4450   and s9 is $0.2100


I can buy currently 3 x more hash if i do invest with s7 then s9, but the fees from s9 is less then half, soo what you people advice, because i dont know which one is the best and i do wanna to invest.
 I do see a huge volume at s7 while s9 has lower volume as well, im curious about the experience you guys have, and please just reply if you  are member of hashnet and has experience as well.


I made a test and i had bought s7 hash for 4862 satoshis, and i had sold it for 5005 satoshis, sometime ago, as i know the fee is 0,15%, i had invested 0,0050btc on those time, but instead of i have some profit i had lost 10k satoshis can anyone explain those to me.

From my calculations 0,15% fee from those 500k satoshis would be 75 satoshis? Kindly correct me if im wrong because my balance shows as this -0.00xxxxx this means i had made profit or the website .

Since i had researched and didnt find anything about this im making this thread to get help and understand the result.
497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: December 29, 2016, 09:48:05 PM
Bitcoin won't disappear so easily, because so many users bitcoin is currently . i believe that someday many countries will accept bitcoins.
Pretty sure you havent read anything here neither the topic.
Bitcoin has potencial to grow, but it wont be enought to replace the fiat system, banks or any others companies services. Bitcoin has bringed inovation and returning the power to the people as in the past before banks exists. Banks does provide services that bitcoin are far away to be able to offer, im talking loans, people does buy their houses and pay for 40 years period, who would be insane to lend their bitcoin over 5-30 days knowing its potencial to grow over time?
Great point Cheesy. That is one of the factors why bitcoin cannot replace or make banks disappear because bitcoin lack in features like giving opportunity to take loans like the banks does. Bitcoin and banks will stay and we cannot stick to just one of them because that will be hard for us to earn or take loans easily. Just use them both because they have their own uniqueness.
Loaning business is not only catered by the banks, there are also legitimate lending firm in this world where we can take loan passing their requirements, I believe banks are here to accept deposits and safeguard our money more and that can be done in bitcoin where we can put our money in our wallet while watching it grow at the same time.

I do agree with you, but those firms rates as i know are very high, and people only use them when they had already a bank problem into repaying some loan, atleast is what they do advertise at the media, tv. Bitcoin is no way near to replace anything, banks does control and rule the countries, since them are used to pay almost all salaries of the workers people, even politicians does use banks to get their payment as well make their investments.
498  Economy / Services / Re: Who's the richest Cryptocurrency trader in this thread? Who has the most BTC? on: December 29, 2016, 09:26:25 PM
This thread is just a begging for help, but be sure non of those experienced traders will help you, why would they share their method, as well inside informations to benefict you? I know there is some slack of whales or group, those while in a while say start collect xx currencie and lets pump it, soo they have some days to get the max they can from those currencie, then all are invited to start the pump, once they make it good for all, they start dump slow their coins.
499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The danger of the cyptocurrencies on: December 29, 2016, 09:03:16 PM
Emotions usually make us get into troubles, since we do know what is happening and we wanna be part of it, but when we see our investment at green we dont know when to way out, usually this is what happend with me when i tryed to trade, i started loosing then it went into profit, and instead of me dump my coins i were expecting a bigger value, the result were a loss always.
500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin without Altcoin ? on: December 29, 2016, 08:50:49 PM
Most altcoins are garbage, but there are a few that did advance the blockchain technologies and made us better understanding the cybercurrency. Yet none will ever getting close to bitcoin.
That's maybe true in the present because to be highly developed and to rise sky high like bitcoin now, altcoins need to have enough amount of time and draw plenty of attention to grow. But as time passes by, this might no longer true. Nothing can last forever and so does bitcoin, it will surely be replaced by another crypto coins, what's left now is the matter of time.

altcoin is not dependent on Bitcoin and Bitcoin does not depend also to altcoins but  creating an altcoin would be beneficial since you can converts those alts to btc..

ALtcoins are dependent on bitcoins. If you notice on exchangers the only way to purchase or to avail an altcoin is through bitcoin. Why is it? The reason is simple, bitcoin can be exchanged to dollars easily and even to local fiat currencies in many countries while altcoins cannot be. Altcoins still needed to be traded to bitcoins so you can convert it to cash.

On the other hand bitcoin can survive without any altcoins since it is backed up by dollars and not by altcoins.

That is absolutely true that Altcoins are dependent on Bitcoin. Basically altcoins are just smaller cap investments (for the most part, ETH was probably one of the closest to overtaking Bitcoin) that are just even more speculative in nature than Bitcoin is itself.

The removal of Altcoins from the cryptocurrency ecosystem would hurt Bitcoin in the short run but in the long run there probably would be no real difference growth for Bitcoin without Altcoin.

One case where I think Altcoins were very useful is when people wanted to donate to various charities with Dogecoin. That was probably one of the few times I have seen an altcoin used for good and not for speculation.

The thing is for us daily traders, as well investors, we are always searching for the next coin that might get better value over time, soo we split our investments into more then one coin, i do see this as a way to minimize the risk. But lets think if all altcoins die, i will have to risk my money only at bitcoin, soo this should result into a bigger change in the price even with the big price we do already have. For other side, each person would not be able to get or make amazing results and get more extra bitcoins without trading, we would see only people with big purchase power getting bitcoin, something its unrealistic nowadays. Altcoins does allow anyone to start from zero and achieve good results, the same way some people does with currencies when they play forex or do make sport bets.
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