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481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ Bonus Ends In 2h ❘|❘ 4k+ BTC Raised on: September 01, 2016, 06:46:04 AM
As we are approaching our first bonus decrease I would like to make sure everyone understands cut off time for 15% bonus.

Cut off time for 15% bonus is in less than 2 hours - it will happen at exactly 08.00:00 UTC.
That is 10am in Europe, 4am EST, 1am PST, 4pm China time, 6pm Sydney time to name a few where most people live.

Bonus for all the crypto will be applied when your transaction is propagated to us before 8.00:00 UTC. That means if your transaction reach us at 7.59:59s you get 15% bonus. If your transaction arrives 1s later you do not get 15% bonus. It does not need to be in the block or have enough confirmations. It just needs to be relayed before cut off time.

For all the edge cases where transaction will propagate a second or few after 08.00:00 UTC we'll check block explorers (like Blockr) for the specific currency and if we can find any sign of transaction being relayed before 08.00:00 UTC we will still apply 15% bonus to you (could be that our nodes and your propagating node are too few hops away).

For crypto that means that you can get your deposit address before 08.00:00 UTC, but if transaction is not relayed before that bonus is not applied.


Bonus will also be applied to all the EUR and USD transactions. But because bank transactions are slow (international wire can take up to a week) you need to send proof of payment (screenshot or picture of payment confirmation if you are doing transaction physically) to support@iconomi.net
If email arrives before 08.00:00 UTC you get 15% bonus when a transaction with matching data reaches our bank account.


Thanks to all the investors and supporters of ICONOMI. We're getting better together.
482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ Bonus Ends In 3h ❘|❘ 4k+ BTC Raised on: September 01, 2016, 06:02:26 AM
ICO website is containing deceitful wording regarding claimed security of the setup

Quote
We employ state-of-the-art security technology for you, with the storage of fiat and digital assets embedded into an Ethereum contract!

This is completely false. The only thing that can be embedded in and Ethereum contract is Ethereum based assets such as MKR, REP and DGX. Every other crypto will have to be held in custody in centralized hot and cold wallets managed by we don't know who (no information provided). The whole matter of how funds will be handled is completely ignored in spite of the fact this is probably the most important aspect of this project.

Storage of assets: not covered
Audit of assets: not covered
Change of service provider: not covered
Counterparty risk warning: not covered
Transfer of assest in case of change of service provider: not covered
Who stores the assets of open managed funds: not covered
Whether ICN holders get dividends: not covered
The nature and calculation of ICN holders dividends (if applicable): not covered

The whitepapers are more highlevel sales pitches than whitepapers and explain strictly nothing about how the whole thing is going to work technically.

This is really underwhelming.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing this thing from becoming TheDAO meets MtGox

Perhaps not the best wording, but you are right. MKR/REP/DGX also Xaurum since not long ago are the ones that can be in Ethereum contracts.

However, note that even Ethereum based assets that we'll hold won't be stored in a smart contract only. This won't be like a giant multisig with all the private keys online.

It will most likely be 4 out of 6 multisig. With each key stored in vaults at least 50km apart and one key stored on another continent and 3 vaults will have access only when 2 authorised person show up together. All that to prevent various scenarios where funds could be lost/stolen/whatever.

Whitepaper on storage of assets will be published by us and given to the community for discussion. We'll make it "open source" and set an industry best practice / standard. This is what is needed, as I didn't know that Bitfinex had all in a giant hot multisig wallet. And I don't know how Kraken or Poloniex is storing funds.

483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 2k BTC reached on: August 31, 2016, 10:36:51 PM
I m getting error "Whoops, looks like something went wrong" on https://ico.iconomi.net Huh anyone else getting the same error?

I can confirm the issue. Working on fix.

Edit: issue with deploy. Fixed now.
484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 2k BTC reached on: August 31, 2016, 05:48:08 PM
I don't see anywhere to input ethereum address for receiving tokens on release.

This is coming closer to end of ICO.
485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 2k BTC reached on: August 31, 2016, 12:10:59 PM
New blog post published!
https://medium.com/iconominet/iconomi-ico-minimum-initial-capital-reached-in-just-6-days-e39018618a1a


ICONOMI ICO minimum initial capital reached — in just 6 days!

As stated in the ICONOMI ICO announcement, ICONOMI aimed to reach at least 2000 BTC initial capital, which is going to be used for technical infrastructure development, the start of two funds, and development of the platform.

The ICONOMI ICO started great! During the first 24 hours of the ICO, ICONOMI raised almost a quarter of its minimum capital target. ICONOMI ICO reached minimum initial capital of 2000 BTC (approximately 1 million USD) in only 6 days. The work on the ICONOMI Open Fund
Management Platform and the disruption of the investment industry starts now.

More initial capital means faster development with more initial functionalities, and a greater entrance barrier to potential competitors. It also means greater attraction to the project and greater probability of investment multiplication for investors.

ICONOMI was founded based on the needs of investors who desire higher returns than they can get in the “old economy”, but do not have the knowledge or time to monitor all the developments in the crypto-world. In 2016 more than 250 mio USD was raised for projects in the distributed economy. Because of ICONOMI’s disruptive potential we expect to attract more investment — therefore there is no upper limit.
486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 31, 2016, 12:03:39 PM

Congratulations to all participants! The goal is reached !  Shocked Roll Eyes Cheesy


It goes to fast, I dare not who are invest huge on it, is this next lisk, or waves? LMAO

It's not the next lisk or waves or anything Smiley

This is 100% ICONOMI.
487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 31, 2016, 11:45:30 AM
"Whoops, looks like something went wrong."

https://ico.iconomi.net/dashboard

 Huh

Just saw that. Thx for pointing this out! Fixing issue now.

Edit: should work now.
488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 31, 2016, 09:56:12 AM
I still haven't seen an answer to the question of how many coins will be needed to get 1eth in dividends. In fact the bigger question is this: how big will the fees be weekly?

It seems to me that at 100.000.000.000 coins if i hold  50.000  I'll need a HUGE amount of ETH fees for me to get any significant dividends ever.

This is impossible to know. Just like it is impossible to know price of ETH in a year.

But we can do an assumption here. If we manage to make a profit of ~10m per year that would equal to ~200k per week. If we approximate ETH price at 10 USD that would be 20k ETH per week. Which would mean that 5000 ICN tokens will be needed to receive 1 ETH per week.

And for as long as we have funding from ICO all the profits will go as dividends to ICN token holders.

Please note. This is calculation only.
489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 31, 2016, 09:00:55 AM
Kind of funny the crowdfunding ticker is in USD and yet not a single person has contributed any. This is going to be big.
Yea this is surprising. zero USD invested so far.. all US people are interested to join with bitcoin only that's why US Dollar Investment is zero so far.
BTW may I ask OP what is  the sources of investment in USD? Only bank account listed there. why don't you accept online sources of payment? like perfectmoney, skrill paypal(not using paypal still understood because of their reversible policy). if you support them people will invest more.

It's not that zero USD would be invested so far. Crypto is on a bullet train and banks moving with the speed of a horse carriage. Everyone, please note, that it can take up to 10 working days (usually 3/4) for money to be send from one country and received in another (SEPA is exception here). Unbelivable in 2016, but so true!

We do have payment confirmation from multiple users who sent USD to us (we apply bonus according to payment confirmation because of slow banks), but zero USD reached our bank account so far. We are all in crypto for a reason. This being just one of.
490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 31, 2016, 01:53:24 AM
I see for Bitcointalk signature with manage by Yahoo... But I see a bounty there on spreadsheets Bitcointalk signature too. There mean we can join both? Earn from Yahoo... and Stake?

You can join one campaign only. No "doublespending" here Tongue
491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 31, 2016, 01:31:45 AM
Not a single USD invested. Great.

It indeed is great for the crypto world. With crypto you can invest in 2mins. With USD it takes almost a week for funds to reach us. Now which one is more powerful? It is great! Smiley
492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 31, 2016, 01:20:17 AM
1,000,244.70 USD
invested by now
583
investors
30 days
to go
It is simply improbable! I don't cease to be surprised to that the speed which was gained by our train!

Good news  Smiley as predicted the first week of 1M USD there are still 33 hours before  ICO over  in the first week I wish there were more surprises
But I wondered 1M USD why no  investors using  Dollar they prefer EURO do you know the reason ?
i do not thing that there will be any special reason for that, i think Euro will be more convenient to them, i hope this project will give a cool benefit to those people who have done investment here.


The reason that our counter is showing 0 USD invested so far is very simple.

Crypto is global and fast. Banks are slow.

Sending USD from anywhere can take up to a week. In some cases even more!

We know there are USD and more EUR deposits on the way (investors sent us proof of payments), but did not yet reached our bank account. For the exact same reason we'll be waiting for 10 days when ICO ends for all USD deposits to arrive - for those that send us proof of payments before ICO ends of course.
493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 31, 2016, 12:55:04 AM
1 million, impressive!

My congrats too. I am a lisk supporter and I have a delegate node on mainnet and testnet and good to see that many people invest to this ICO in Lisk. I hope, it will be not dumped after the ICO.

No crypto will be dumped.

We hope to get enough fiat and then spending it for operations. While plan for cryptos is most likely that we'll be actually "selling" them to the funds we'll be creating. It would be kind of like OTC buying and selling from ICO funds to CTFs and CMFs.

But definitely not dumping anything. It would make no sense in any way you look at it (us, supporters, market...).
494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN on: August 31, 2016, 12:37:44 AM
There's still a month left so it should be easy to get that 2000btc.  I did try to register last night by the way and it seem like registering has a problem, it didn't allow me as i didn't get a confirmation email after registering. Anyone can verify this?
i am also facing this problem i have no ideas what the reason is, i think there most of be some technical problem related to this issues, the management should solve this problem on priority basis.

Can you write me at support@iconomi.net and tell me your browser and OS you are using. We had some problems on day one with that, but should be fixed.
495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 31, 2016, 12:30:30 AM
Can someone clear few points .. I still don't understand after going through white paper and whole thread.

1) CONOMI.PERFORMANCE/ICONOMI.INDEX investment will be generated separate and will ICONOMI team manage that fund for customer participated in CONOMI.PERFORMANCE/ICONOMI.INDEX?

2) Is there any upper limit on ICO investment ? If ICONOMI has plan in place of development then must already have the expense calculated to develop that, what will be use of extra fund generated through ICO ?

3) Any plan of placing buy wall after ICO incase ICO goes over priced ( like waves announced pre ICO that they will place buy wall, though not sure if there was any because the price went down the ICO price because waves seems overpriced ICO)


1) ICONOMI.INDEX will be CTF type of fund and ICONOMI.PERFROMANCE will be CMF type of fund. Both generates separately and ICONOMI will manage them each according to it's rules. ICONOMI.INDEX will be well defined as it is index by definition, while ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE will be actively managed by our team for the customers of those fund.

2) There is no upper limit for ICO. Market will set the price. We have few scenarios for our burn rate, which will depends on amount of raised funds. We'll for sure keep ourselves with a runway for at least 18 months. The extra fund generated through ICO will go into ICONOMI.INDEX. Important thing here for ICN token holders is that for as long as we'll have funds raised during ICO we'll be paying 100% of profits as dividends to ICN token holders.

3) There won't be any buy walls or sell walls or whatever. ICN token will have market cap defined by investors and we won't be manipulating market in any way. Additionally to that, we'll publish public addresses of team members and we'll all oblige not to move/sell anything for the period of at least 6 months.
496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 30, 2016, 11:29:29 PM
I am hugely impressed by the progress so far. It's a pretty competitive market right now with the alts surging, and a 500k raise in a week is no joke. One observation: can you provide links next to the names of the founders/advisors linking to public profiles/publications/body of existing work etc?

The progress is really impressive. With lots of  ALtcoin and most of them Spammy ones, ICONOMI has really established the trust amount the people and it will reach high goals for sure.
yes it is a fact that ICONOMI gain the trust of the people and that is the reason that more and more people are taking interest in this project, i hope that this project is going to hit very soon.

Thank you so such! We're working hard to earn trust and be transparent as much as possible.

We will make some mistakes in the future for sure (who doesn't?). But I can promise you, we'll also fix them as soon as we can.
497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 30, 2016, 11:23:48 PM
I haven't found and hasn't seen information on the planned exchanges and time of an exit to the auction. If a platform start that in 2017 and the auction will begin only in 2017? And where all this time to hold coins? In ICO purse?

Soon after end of ICO we'll launch ICN tokens on top of Ethereum platform. At the same time tokens become freely transfarable and thus tradable.

This is from the whitepaper: https://www.iconomi.net/ICONOMI_Whitepaper.pdf

Quote
ICNs will be issued with the deployment of a smart contract on the Ethereum network and
transferred to an Ethereum address users will be able to provide through the ICONOMI
interface. Users who fail to do so will still be able to access their ICNs via the ICONOMI
website.
498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 30, 2016, 11:10:58 PM
When partisipants can join ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE fund?
How will this proceed?

ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE will be out in Q4 2016.

First batch for investments will be open for ICO participants only (future ones too, unless it will be undersubscribed). And we'll be investing from until we can invest almost all of it, then open a new batch.
499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 30, 2016, 10:57:46 PM
why the 1week bonus time is different in the forum and the site ..it was till the 1st of September ryt.. correct me if I'm wrong

It was till Thursday, September 1st 08.00 UTC and it still is.

I just checked and information on OP and ICO website do match.
500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO NOW OPEN ❘|❘ 1k BTC in 88 hours on: August 30, 2016, 07:19:33 PM
lol So basically everyone will have a 15% bonus... I would love for someone to explain how this will work without the token being overpriced by the time of release


Everyone during first week. Like other ICOs. From Ethereum, Lisk and others. I see no issue to reward early supporters a bit.

Yea but why wait an extra 30 days when we basically have all the btc worth this ICO is asking for. I would say the best thing for its investors is to shorten the fundraising period. I mean its not much for someone like me but it would be nice for everyone already on board. would hate to see this turn out like waves..

We'll be distributing 100% of profits we make from funds to ICN token holders for as long as we have funding from ICO.
That way it can't be like Waves, because reward for ICN token holders will be just bigger and thus coin will be worth more.
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