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4801  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-03-06] VICE - Has Satoshi Nakamoto Been Unmasked? on: March 06, 2014, 04:46:51 PM
The fake one , yes , he has been unmasked , the real Satoshi Nakamoto , no:).
4802  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR][MANDATORY UPDATE] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: March 06, 2014, 04:44:31 PM
As a big and active supporter of this initiative I get many questions from serious forum users why I'm so determined. Well, besides my earlier statements about believing in acting rather than screeching, I would like to suggest you read this post:

http://guardianlv.com/2013/12/icelanders-overthrow-government-and-rewrite-constitution-after-banking-fraud-no-word-from-us-media/

It clarified to mee that if Crytpo would work anywhere, THIS country with it's very special likeminded people would be the place!

Thats why I support the Dev's ideology and am willing to invest a lot of effort and BTC!

And before the screechers jump in to prove I'm mainly in it for a profit, let me spare you're efforts, of course this is a big motivator as well. But I'd rather get it right with this one than all the other coin initiatives, who, IMHO will never be based on a story that can be read in the above article (and you screechers for sure will NOT have read it, that is something i'm starting to become aware of more and more!)

I'm pretty sure Icelanders will be thrilled about a crypto coin that:
a) is bouncing up and down like fiat money
b) depends highly on a centralized trading website , you run from banks and you end up with shady trading websites
c) has no real demand besides trading.

People who run from banks and other financial institution will like this coin a lot. Right now it covers all the bad things in fiat that their national currency does.

When you talk about aur and 99% of the pots are about price , then it's a failure.

First thing should be establishing a localaurora website , so you get rid of a possible mtgox fiasco
Second would be a campaign for shops to accept aurora

And third.... it's too far away to think about it.


you don't understand the difference. this coin is preprogrammed how many it will put out. the problem with fiat is the govts can keep making more whenever they want in most nations.

the reason cryptos are attractive as a wealth storage option is for those people in countries where they are concerned about massive inflation due to dilution of their share of the total currency.

if and when we see cryptos adopted as a mainstream investment and trading / commerce tool, we will start to see more stability. we are in fact still in the early stages of growth for this market, and even the most well established coins still face a lot of volatility.

just believe me when I say in some cases that volatility is preferable to what looks like a guaranteed reduction in value if you happen to live somewhere that is economically fuct. like Iceland. im not saying this is all definitely going to work out, just that the premise and rationale of the supporters arguments are quite valid. in some cases.

Probably you don't understand also something.
The coin is "initially"  programmed. That's the dark side of any crypto. If the devs increase the coins tenfold and enough people follow that chain , that's it.

Same with fiat , if people still use the Zimbabwe dollar , they will still use the x10aur as well.
Look how well the people who invested in doge accepted that there would be twice the amount of coins in the next 10 years.

Also , you're comparing some coins with aurora.
Aurora wasn't supposed to be like the others , if it was a normal project I wouldn't even bother reading this thread.
But they claimed something , and they chose the path of other coins that ended as a failure.


Hi Niothor,

We have been at this for a while. You strike me as someone who really bases his opinion on educated thought. So why not use your skills and time to participate in correcting all the stuff you say went wrong? If you believe the claims around this coin are worth to be put in to reality (and you do, because you keep bothering), but you doubt the capability of the people that have been trying to do just that, then come in and help us!

http://forum.auroracoin.org

Cheers,

LTEX

This won't sound too good but i'm here just to see and learn , not work on it. And of , of course , criticize (that's one thing we're all good at , right:?
If I were an Icelander I would get involved , also if I had the free time needed for work on this projetc. (my activity on he forum is closely matched with the brakes i get at work Smiley.

Besides when the important talk get's hidden in a forum , and the thread here is full of people bitching about the price , you already lose a few supporters.
Any major update or idea on that forum should be also shared here.
People don't have the time to check bitcoin reddit , private forums , news  especially when they have different information , bearish or bullish.
4803  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.5.2 Released, please update! on: March 06, 2014, 04:34:42 PM


If I had 10k euro invested, I'd take out at least my investment capital. Fundamentally, there's no future in a "let's issue a few hundred billion coins for the fun of it". Kittehcoin died, despite a reduction to 25bn, and DOGE will die too - the coins in circulation are simply too many and the inflation is bad too. It's bad economic planning from a coin which wasn't even intended to be serious. That's my take on it, at least.

I love the stupid dog face, it's epic trolling with the "such currency", "wow" etc etc, but 10k euro? Just get the capital out so that you won't have RL losses and leave some of the profits behind if by any chance the coin goes to the moon. (Personally I'd also cash out the profit and taking the "risk" of losing a future spike).




Nope... you just don't understand how crypto's work and what Dogecoin is aiming for.... Inflation is good for doge in the long run...

You probably don't have a clue that doge wasn't supposed to be inflationary.
It was just the dev that didn't know what the variables are for , and when he found out he said... hell let's go with an inflation coin.
4804  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR][MANDATORY UPDATE] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: March 06, 2014, 04:30:40 PM
As a big and active supporter of this initiative I get many questions from serious forum users why I'm so determined. Well, besides my earlier statements about believing in acting rather than screeching, I would like to suggest you read this post:

http://guardianlv.com/2013/12/icelanders-overthrow-government-and-rewrite-constitution-after-banking-fraud-no-word-from-us-media/

It clarified to mee that if Crytpo would work anywhere, THIS country with it's very special likeminded people would be the place!

Thats why I support the Dev's ideology and am willing to invest a lot of effort and BTC!

And before the screechers jump in to prove I'm mainly in it for a profit, let me spare you're efforts, of course this is a big motivator as well. But I'd rather get it right with this one than all the other coin initiatives, who, IMHO will never be based on a story that can be read in the above article (and you screechers for sure will NOT have read it, that is something i'm starting to become aware of more and more!)

I'm pretty sure Icelanders will be thrilled about a crypto coin that:
a) is bouncing up and down like fiat money
b) depends highly on a centralized trading website , you run from banks and you end up with shady trading websites
c) has no real demand besides trading.

People who run from banks and other financial institution will like this coin a lot. Right now it covers all the bad things in fiat that their national currency does.

When you talk about aur and 99% of the pots are about price , then it's a failure.

First thing should be establishing a localaurora website , so you get rid of a possible mtgox fiasco
Second would be a campaign for shops to accept aurora

And third.... it's too far away to think about it.


you don't understand the difference. this coin is preprogrammed how many it will put out. the problem with fiat is the govts can keep making more whenever they want in most nations.

the reason cryptos are attractive as a wealth storage option is for those people in countries where they are concerned about massive inflation due to dilution of their share of the total currency.

if and when we see cryptos adopted as a mainstream investment and trading / commerce tool, we will start to see more stability. we are in fact still in the early stages of growth for this market, and even the most well established coins still face a lot of volatility.

just believe me when I say in some cases that volatility is preferable to what looks like a guaranteed reduction in value if you happen to live somewhere that is economically fuct. like Iceland. im not saying this is all definitely going to work out, just that the premise and rationale of the supporters arguments are quite valid. in some cases.

Probably you don't understand also something.
The coin is "initially"  programmed. That's the dark side of any crypto. If the devs increase the coins tenfold and enough people follow that chain , that's it.

Same with fiat , if people still use the Zimbabwe dollar , they will still use the x10aur as well.
Look how well the people who invested in doge accepted that there would be twice the amount of coins in the next 10 years.

Also , you're comparing some coins with aurora.
Aurora wasn't supposed to be like the others , if it was a normal project I wouldn't even bother reading this thread.
But they claimed something , and they chose the path of other coins that ended as a failure.
4805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR][MANDATORY UPDATE] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: March 06, 2014, 04:24:48 PM
hashrate of Aurora on a serious rise


two hours ago it was like 190Mh/s...


EDIT: http://daft.cc/auroracoin/compare

Ok, I don't get it.. if price is tanking why are more and more miners focusing on Aurora now?

Because hashing rate and price are not that strongly related as some people here like to think.

But at current diff and price the coin is massively unprofitable. Even more so with the current declining price trend in mind.

So rationally hashing rate should decrease a lot.

Actually I'd like that, so that difficulty can go down to accessible level and the coin can pick up from there, this time with a slow, healthy growth.


Unless, some individuals, both traders and miners, are hoarding as many coins as they can with rising price expectations.


So based on your assumption , the coin price would have to be -0.005 , right?
That's what hashrate tells us.

Look at bitcoin , hahsrate is 3x times of December while price is 1/2.

Also , there are coin that have been long abandoned , and still get a few MH , people who believe they are the next Satoshi and solo mine.


4806  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn up to 2.4 BTC/Month by Posting on: March 06, 2014, 04:20:40 PM
I don't get why people are still having problems understanding the rules. It's quoted at least 10 times in the last 3 pages, + Stunna himself posted it, and updated the thread.

Because people here do most of the posting , but not the reading Smiley
"Women nest, men hunt"  J.S.
4807  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-03-06]The Face Behind Bitcoin on: March 06, 2014, 04:19:00 PM
I think the guy is completely made up, as well as his family members.

Absolutely.

You want to get in touch with a guy you know nothing about except he did a brilliant cryptographic work.

Yet you learn that he loves playing with train models. How ? When ?
And then you find a British train model company that will give you his "email address" just because you ask.
And then the guy closes his door on you but you still manage to get a picture of him posing in the country.
And you also get to talk to all of his relatives as easily as that.

In a few days we will "learn" that :
- the guy on the photo is a paid actor
- the house has been rent by the newspaper and is today filled with cameras
- the car has been bought from the previous tenant in order to match the one on Google Street View
- bad people do bad things to get money
- the "relaunch" of the newspaper failed.

Great !



Yeah , that's how a fake story is created by a mag that needs some publicity. I feel sorry for the guy that got caught in this. If he's not also the one that had the idea.
4808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR][MANDATORY UPDATE] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: March 06, 2014, 04:15:55 PM
hashrate of Aurora on a serious rise


two hours ago it was like 190Mh/s...


EDIT: http://daft.cc/auroracoin/compare

Ok, I don't get it.. if price is tanking why are more and more miners focusing on Aurora now?

Because hashing rate and price are not that strongly related as some people here like to think.
4809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR][MANDATORY UPDATE] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: March 06, 2014, 04:07:46 PM
As a big and active supporter of this initiative I get many questions from serious forum users why I'm so determined. Well, besides my earlier statements about believing in acting rather than screeching, I would like to suggest you read this post:

http://guardianlv.com/2013/12/icelanders-overthrow-government-and-rewrite-constitution-after-banking-fraud-no-word-from-us-media/

It clarified to mee that if Crytpo would work anywhere, THIS country with it's very special likeminded people would be the place!

Thats why I support the Dev's ideology and am willing to invest a lot of effort and BTC!

And before the screechers jump in to prove I'm mainly in it for a profit, let me spare you're efforts, of course this is a big motivator as well. But I'd rather get it right with this one than all the other coin initiatives, who, IMHO will never be based on a story that can be read in the above article (and you screechers for sure will NOT have read it, that is something i'm starting to become aware of more and more!)

I'm pretty sure Icelanders will be thrilled about a crypto coin that:
a) is bouncing up and down like fiat money
b) depends highly on a centralized trading website , you run from banks and you end up with shady trading websites
c) has no real demand besides trading.

People who run from banks and other financial institution will like this coin a lot. Right now it covers all the bad things in fiat that their national currency does.

When you talk about aur and 99% of the pots are about price , then it's a failure.

First thing should be establishing a localaurora website , so you get rid of a possible mtgox fiasco
Second would be a campaign for shops to accept aurora

And third.... it's too far away to think about it.
4810  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize on: March 06, 2014, 04:01:40 PM
To be fair, Putin has "invaded" Crimea without killing anyone... something neither the Maidan or the ousted government can say they've done.

That is an impressive feat, and if Crimea votes for independence or greater autonomy in the upcoming referendum then I would say he deserves it for averting a potential crisis.


I really doubt that most of those protesters in Maidan were actually ukrainians. I think, heard and read about a lot of evidence that those causing violence were mostly russian agitators. Adding in the possible russian snipers causing chaos, I'd say that he would be the least suiting politician candidate for such award.

So Russia hired protestors to take down the Russian supportive government and replace it with an anti-Russian government? Makes perfect sense...

Yes , a lot of sense.
If the transition of power would have been peaceful , or if nothing would have happened at all , there would have been no reason for Russia to intervene , right?
4811  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia Invades Ukraine. Whats next? on: March 06, 2014, 03:59:23 PM
Are You thinking, that Russian Federation will bomb Kiev, as NATO bomb Belgrade or Baghdad and Tripoli?

Yeah , the Russians were angels , 56 Hungary , 68 Czechoslovakia , 74 Eritrea , 77 Somalia , 79 Afghanistan , 92  Ossetia , 92 Tajikistan , 93 Georgia , 99 Dagestan
56,68,74,77,79 - That was not Russia, that was Soviet Union.
Soviet Union consisted of Russia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan. Not only Russia.

Also check your knowledge about 99 and 92-93:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_invasion_of_Dagestan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_Civil_War

Can I laugh at that? =))) Even If you say no , I will still laugh.
So basically , the brits aren't to blame for africa, america , india , australia , new zealand , it was the British Empire , not the United Kingdom that slaughter millions of natives.
4812  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia Invades Ukraine. Whats next? on: March 05, 2014, 11:16:18 PM
Are You thinking, that Russian Federation will bomb Kiev, as NATO bomb Belgrade or Baghdad and Tripoli?

Yeah , the Russians were angels , 56 Hungary , 68 Czechoslovakia , 74 Eritrea , 77 Somalia , 79 Afghanistan , 92  Ossetia , 92 Tajikistan , 93 Georgia , 99 Dagestan

Should also put in the list of American Invasions and interventions its quite a bit longer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations

Chile - Pinochet Afghanistan Iraq Syria etc.

so because a murder is worse than a rape we should free all rapists?
4813  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia Invades Ukraine. Whats next? on: March 05, 2014, 10:59:49 PM
Are You thinking, that Russian Federation will bomb Kiev, as NATO bomb Belgrade or Baghdad and Tripoli?

Yeah , the Russians were angels , 56 Hungary , 68 Czechoslovakia , 74 Eritrea , 77 Somalia , 79 Afghanistan , 92  Ossetia , 92 Tajikistan , 93 Georgia , 99 Dagestan
4814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR][MANDATORY UPDATE] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: March 05, 2014, 10:41:48 PM
It's the whales , the miners , the dumpers , Obama , Putin , and Yoda the ones that bring the price down Smiley))

It's a damn free market !!!!!
So quit bitching that you bough at 0.1 hoping to double your money overnight.
4815  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Yahoo webcam images from millions of users intercepted by GCHQ on: March 05, 2014, 10:24:37 PM
That's too rude to be true. It can't be legal!

And how are you so sure about it?
Even if it's not , would you go in court for this?


Let's be honest, complacent people like you are precisely why government agencies can get away with this crap, I hope you were trolling though.

I was asking this because I know how 99% of people only complain for a few days on the forum , news websites , etc and after a month they all form a line to get their ass *** by the same government they claimed they will overthrow.
4816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.5.2 Released, please update! on: March 05, 2014, 08:41:49 PM
Doge banners on wells ? I've got a better idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtfQRtfL4sU&noredirect=1  Cool

This is the last place on this forum where you should give people stupid ideas Smiley
4817  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize on: March 05, 2014, 08:39:09 PM
I am not talking about any idiot I am talking about this Gentleman  Grin


Yeah , he is fit in this joke , because this guy ( Abdul Sattar Edhi) hasn't got a Nobel price for all his work which is peace related , while one of the idiots has one , and maybe the other one will get it too.
4818  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [KRN] Ekrona - not only for Vikings. Scypt PoW, NO PREMINE, 3.3 min blocks on: March 05, 2014, 08:31:57 PM
Coin is getting more and more expensive!!

More people mining = more hashrate

More hashrate = people belive in it

people believe in it = people do not sell under mining cost.

There are very few sell orders under 0.0002 and I think this is just a good start.

Aurora 3 weeks ago was trading at 0.003


lols , hashrate means people believing in it? =))))
It just means it's profitable to mine , more than others.

Once a new hot thing is in town , people will switch.

Price now is lower han mining cost co all who mine now believe in future of this coin.

1 Now you can't buy many coins under 0.0002 and I think there is big potential for upward movement like on Aurora.

2 So if there is any coin that could bring profits ok thousands % its eKrona.



Any real reasons for 1 and 2 to happen?
And i mean real reasons , not the usual crap i;ve been seeing on this forum in the last few months with this alt madness.

Basicly this picture says it all:



But there is also Aurora thing that help us to promote and eKrona is really getting more popular because of Aurora.

Many people who did not mine or bought Aurora now see their chance in this coin.

Picture stating what other 1000 coins claim... so no real reasons why it will be a success.
And don't compare it to Aurora
Doge and Kitteh? Remember?
4819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 05, 2014, 08:09:20 PM
If you like Auroracoin, you're going to LOVE Mazacoin (MZC)! >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=493049.0

Maza will be @ 0.001 by end of this week and @ 0.01 in 2 weeks.

Maza dev is doing an excellent PR

JUST NOW: http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/5/5469510/native-americans-assert-their-independence-through-cryptocurrency-mazacoin

And why is that?
Any reason other than wishful thinking?
4820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [KRN] Ekrona - not only for Vikings. Scypt PoW, NO PREMINE, 3.3 min blocks on: March 05, 2014, 08:05:46 PM
Coin is getting more and more expensive!!

More people mining = more hashrate

More hashrate = people belive in it

people believe in it = people do not sell under mining cost.

There are very few sell orders under 0.0002 and I think this is just a good start.

Aurora 3 weeks ago was trading at 0.003


lols , hashrate means people believing in it? =))))
It just means it's profitable to mine , more than others.

Once a new hot thing is in town , people will switch.

Price now is lower han mining cost co all who mine now believe in future of this coin.

1 Now you can't buy many coins under 0.0002 and I think there is big potential for upward movement like on Aurora.

2 So if there is any coin that could bring profits ok thousands % its eKrona.



Any real reasons for 1 and 2 to happen?
And i mean real reasons , not the usual crap i;ve been seeing on this forum in the last few months with this alt madness.
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