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4821  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some people I can use as a reference to add enthusiasm to being in bitcoin. on: January 13, 2022, 08:13:16 AM
Indeed, also don't invest money you may already need "tomorrow", else you'll get into panic whenever the price falls under a certain threshold and will be tempted to sell at a loss.
Or, generically said "don't invest money you don't afford to lose".

Investing from a point of view of poor people is very different from investing as a middle class person who can afford to buy dips and HODL no matter what, and not getting their lives ruined in the very unlikely case of Bitcoin going to zero. And unfortunately poor people want to see quick and big returns the most, so they are being preyed upon by various scammers who make stuff like NFT, ICO, shitcoins, trading signals, etc.

The problem is also that usually the poor are also less educated and can fall easier for scams, from ICO & stuff to doublers. It's them who will try to make earning from gambling and so on.
The saying "the first million is the most difficult one" is extremely correct, no matter if we talk about one million, or 100k, or 1 BTC (or even 0.1 BTC for some!)

For many of us it's easy: we may have the luxury to HODL some (or all!) of the coins we achieve from signature campaigns. It can be seen almost as a risk-free DCA. But others are inexperienced and are willing to try everything for a better life, missing the point that crypto was not created for them to become rich overnight (no matter what certain scammy ads tell). And the lack of patience is a plague of the newer generations.

Also they don't understand that the older users of this forum are not rich. Who would sit and post on the daily basis if he could spend that time on a beach or boat drinking margaritas or just fishing? We just reached the point we can wait patiently for the price (take its time and) rise. But all this means knowledge, patience and an income that allows one afford to wait. Unfortunately way too many don't have that. They have only hopes. Sometimes too unrealistic ones.
4822  Other / Meta / Re: How to find threads with pairs of users? on: January 13, 2022, 07:45:15 AM
it's likely to return every post where they are mentioned by anyone even if they didn't post in the thread themselves, right?

Indeed, it's far from best solution. It clearly depends whether you need it only a very few times of rather usual. If it's rather usual, then it's the job for a scraper. As said, the ideal solution would be an adaptation in TryNinja's page. Then indeed it can return exactly the unique threads where both did post - not the mentions and other "dirty tricks".
I'm sorry if it didn't help as much as I hoped...

I've had some good conversations with franky1 in the past, and he and I agree on a lot of details.  However, whenever we disagree, he seems to forget every conversation we've ever agreed on and decides that I'm in some conspiracy against him.  I can't control his worldview or his paranoia, but I see no reason to eliminate him from the forum.  The rest of us just need to make sure to post enough facts, details, and sources so that any newbie that stumbles across his misleading posts can tell the difference. At least he's not a signature ad spammer.

Well said.

Wasn't aware of TryNinja's stuff.  I'll definitely be looking into that over the next couple of weeks.  It may not be what I'm wanting for this particular question, but it looks like he's got some interesting stuff out there overall.

I (also) recommend the bpip extension (I see that somebody else also recommended it). Without that I would have been missing ninjastic.space myself (and some other goodies too).

I just picked 2 random user names.

Unfortunately nowadays writing down a name means that a third party software may notify the user. And from there to useless discussions/explanations is just a tiny step.



Back on topic. Although I expect TryNinja get notified and come here, maybe you make a request or even fork/adapt his source code for your needs:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5273824
4823  Other / Meta / Re: How to find threads with pairs of users? on: January 12, 2022, 05:03:54 PM
It should work by searching like franky1 * loycev site:bitcointalk.org
And while Google returns only one result, duckduckgo seems to give a quite wide list. It could be what you're looking for.
4824  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BitPay is slowly dying? on: January 12, 2022, 03:15:44 PM
I do not know how long bitpay activity will continue if the number of transactions continues like this.

I am surprised by these numbers, I was expecting BitPay do better. But I don't mind either, considering their KYC problems and the fact that they had also a history of pushing BCH (iirc).
On the other hand, I don't think that they are "slowly dying", since they've stroke some deals last year, like this one with Wix and this one with Verifone. I would have been expecting though that these would start getting in effect/be visible on those charts, but on the other hand big companies are not so much in a hurry to implement new things.
4825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling for the rich who can afford to lose ? on: January 12, 2022, 03:03:08 PM
So can we say that gambling is for the riches who can afford to lose?

While I agree that the adrenaline/dopamine levels may depend on the amounts risked, I don't think that it's a game exclusively for the rich.
On the other hand, it's also not for the poorest.

But one can put aside some money now and then, and, in the3 same way he goes to cinema or out for a drink, he can spend some good time gambling.
Of course, if one sees gambling as a way to make money (or recover what he has lost), that's wrong and gas the potential to lead to dramas.

So it's an entertainment for those not too poor who can find a good balance between having fun and spending too much.
4826  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: January 12, 2022, 02:57:28 PM
Dupa aia am vazut ca l-ai postat tu si m-am gandit daca ai vrut sa faci o gluma, postand un concurs finalizat

Eiii, radem, glumim, dar nu sunt chiar asa sadic Grin
Iar 256 de pozitii... va dura ceva pana se vor ocupa, mai ales cele 156 "cu plata".
Am vazut suficiente concursuri la care si 100 de pozitii "gratis" s-au ocupat extrem de greu (dar aici, cu premii asa multe si faine, nu cred ca o sa fie cazul - repet, la cele gratis).

Bafta!
4827  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some people I can use as a reference to add enthusiasm to being in bitcoin. on: January 12, 2022, 02:29:24 PM
Bitcoin is not a guaranteed profit-generating machine, it's just a "very good chance of getting profit".

So, invest in Bitcoin, but also think about other ways of getting income, especially stable and long-term.

Indeed, also don't invest money you may already need "tomorrow", else you'll get into panic whenever the price falls under a certain threshold and will be tempted to sell at a loss.
Or, generically said "don't invest money you don't afford to lose".



Interesting list, but, as said, it can be misleading.

I use to go to WO as a good place to check and "recharge" (i.e. spend more time there than the usual) when somewhat in doubt, but that's not for everybody. However, imho it worth mentioning.
4828  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: January 12, 2022, 11:10:53 AM
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4829  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [DONATION RAFFLE] Dr. Bitcoin Penny in the Multi-Coin of Madness on: January 12, 2022, 11:05:19 AM
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4830  Other / Meta / Re: When Bitcointalk DAO on: January 12, 2022, 09:36:58 AM
When decentralized ?

Blockchains and decentralization are not the solutions that simply makes everything better, this being one such case.
Hence the answer for you is: most probably never.
4831  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: I need test audience for a project on: January 12, 2022, 09:01:56 AM
1. You should provide some liquidity for the market (especially virtual USD and ETH). There's no way to test this otherwise.

2. I understood that you check balance at the moment the order is to be executed, still this may be overly confusing for the users.

I mean that right now I have 0.01 tBTC and it doesn't show how much I have locked in orders.
And I have 2 orders, totaling more than my full balance. Again, I understand why this happens, but it may not be the correct way for the future users/UI.



3. I didn't find anything about the trade fees - nothing seems to be displayed in the order. And of course, I can't see from any processed order because of the lack of liquidity.


...at least we have now proper order IDs (they seem to be random numbers, not increasing ones, no problem though) Cheesy
4832  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The price of other coins, including Bitcoin, altcoin is declining on: January 12, 2022, 08:48:16 AM
Bitcoin and all the other Altcoins that are now the price of all coins is going to be love. All the coins are eating down because the market conditions are so bad now that you can never imagine. It is not possible to get a good position without those who invest. Therefore, we urge all investors that only you can bring the market to the right place.

So all investors should unite in order to get you earn some more bucks? And you expect people take you serious?
No. Each and every party - whether it's an investor/holder or a trader - will make his own calculations and buy or sell as he thinks it's better for him.
And you should do the same. If you think that the price cannot go lowed, buy the dip. If you think it's going to go much lower, you can sell. If you think very long term, then DCA.
But do your math for yourself, don't "pray" to the other parties do your job.
4833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Track Record for the year 2022 on: January 12, 2022, 08:30:22 AM
Imho the amounts lost by one person are not so much relevant for the rest of the world and basically vary from person to person.
I see them as money spent on entertainment.

While it can be good to track a record for yourself in order to stop you from exaggerating, I don't really see other use for such records.
4834  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does El Salvador’s Chivo Bitcoin wallet run on Algorand? on: January 12, 2022, 08:23:10 AM
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If this is true, the next argument is El Salvador has not adopted bitcoin, it has adopted Algorand because bitcoins are not being used for transactions.
Wrong. Even if Chivo is doing such a stupid thing, they still have adopted bitcoin because:
[~snip~]
Whether internal Chivo to Chivo transactions happen in a stupid way on a shitcoin network doesn't change any of the above facts.

While your statements stand correct, it may worth also taking into consideration the fact that the vast majority of people don't have enough knowledge, hence will most probably keep using Chivo and it's internal way of settling transactions.
So while nobody is forcing anyone use Algorand, they'll still use it vastly without knowing.
4835  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So, a magical war is going on... pray at the Bitcoin Wall. on: January 12, 2022, 08:06:26 AM
Scientology ...
The Illuminati ...
The Freemasons ...

I can say only one thing: whatever you're smoking, it's definitely too strong for you. You should take better care of your health.
4836  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Issue That I Can't Wrap My Head Around on: January 11, 2022, 07:09:11 PM
Instead of block rewards, miners will mostly rely on transaction fees.

This is when I believe we run into a problem. This is because historically humans have a strong distaste for fees especially with simple actions on the Internet. If we want Bitcoin to become a global currency that is used for primarily every transaction, having fees is an easy way to deter new people from adopting Bitcoin as their main currency.

Where this kind of assumptions come from? Did you make any bitcoin transaction ever?
Even now people pay transaction fees. Last 4 blocks came with 0.15, 0.08, 0.03 or 0.1 BTC for the miners from fees. When the network is more crowded, the fees increase greatly.
So.. one error in the logic is about the fees. People do pay fees already for the transactions and bitcoin didn't stop existing.

Even more, although you don't seem to know, but you also pay transaction fees in the fiat world, when you pay with your card. Just nobody cares to tell you that the merchant included that into the price you see for the product/service you buy and he's paying that fee to Visa/Mastercard (or keeps the difference if you pay with fiat).

Also, another problem I see is that the last halving will be around 2140. So you are trying to find the fix for a problem that might happen in more than 100 years. I think that too many things will change until then, hence it's too early for arguing about it.
4837  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: IS it possible to let your BTC work for you ? on: January 11, 2022, 06:52:54 PM
is it truly possible that my BTC works for me , without revealing my private keys

Unless you send your coins to a custodian, which may or may not scam you, this is not possible with Bitcoin.
As the others said, with enough patience BTC does work for you, but it's not the amount of BTC that's increasing, it's the value of your coins that's increasing. (But keep in mind that bitcoin price can go up and down too.)
4838  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make $ 1,000,000 out of $ 30,000? on: January 11, 2022, 03:08:05 PM
I saved up for a house for my parents. In 2018, I bought bitcoin with all my money at the rate of $ 16,000, after which I had to sell everything at the rate of $ 3,500. So I lost almost everything. Now I have recovered a little mentally and financially and I want to enter the world of cryptocurrencies, taking into account past mistakes. The house needs to be built. Time is running.

You can contact me in telegram @Looker2021

Sad story. But.. contacting you? Why on earth would somebody do that? Want to help somebody lose money? Want to "ask for donations"?!
Or want to "get help" from all kind of scammers? The internet is full of them.

How to find yourself in the world of cryptocurrencies? How to earn a place in the sun and escape from the darkness? Is it realistic to turn $ 30,000 into 1 million or is it just a fairy tale ? What would you do for this? How not to lose everything?  Please share your ideas.

It looks like you've made all possible mistakes.
1. You should have done research and should have been investing only if really trusting what you see. And not only for short term.
2. You should have been investing only money you afford to lose. This way you are not tempted to "sell low".
3. You became impatient. Bitcoin is not a get-rich-quick scheme.
4. You seem to get interested in Bitcoin only when price is high / FOMO is in place. While for some people this is fine, together with your lack of patience this is the sure losing strategy.

Some can turn 30k into 1M, they really can. But it also depends how much time and patience one has. And whether he can afford to lose that money.
But you have kinda proven already that this is an unrealistic plan for you. I don't want to offend you, but you seem to be the typical impatient FOMO buy-high and panic-sell-low. Sorry.
4839  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Freebico.in script problem on: January 11, 2022, 11:04:19 AM
Any thoughts?

It looks like you do more rolls per second. It can easily happen depending on how fast your internet is and how fast freebitco.in is.
If this is a problem for you, put a sleep (somewhere between 0.5 and 1s) between 2 rolls you make.
I don't know though how you do sleep in js, but I've looked this up for you (beware, it works with milliseconds)
4840  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Fear and Greed index. Don't time the market! on: January 11, 2022, 10:46:44 AM
On the chart, the psychology of market in January of 2021 and 2022 are totally different. The first one is extremely greed (score is 93) and the second one is extremely fearful (score is 21).

Imho, in order to be correct/accurate, it worth adding that fear/greed states/indexes are not related to the actual price of bitcoin, it's at least related to the trend and it's speed/slope.
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