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4821  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the society matured enough to handle privacy? on: April 08, 2022, 04:15:05 PM
Not sure if you answer on whether privacy is both good and bad. As far as I read, you only say that Bitcoin makes people financial sovereigns of themselves.

but my concern  is if man is matured enough to handle the innovation or are you also seeing the abuse  of privacy coming along with it
What do you see? Judging by the fact that the majority hasn't yet understood what's self-custody and why you shouldn't leave coins on centralized exchanges I'm going to say a big no, they don't. And most will never do.

But, let cryptocurrencies off the table. The mass, which mirrors society, ignores completely that their privacy is demanded. The mass doesn't care. The mass wants to show everybody what they're eating, when and where they're eating it, if they've gone to a luxurious hotel, if they're at the beach, if they're dressed nicely, if they're looking for a relationship etc.

We've passed the part where they don't care about their privacy. People in current societies want to share the moments which were considered private in the past.
4822  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jack Mallers’ Strike Announces Shopify Integration for Bitcoin Lightning Payment on: April 08, 2022, 03:22:15 PM
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That. These too-good-to-be true, promising statements should not be taken with held breath as the shops don't always behave same like those people say and if they do, their Bitcoin integration is prohibited outside the United States etc.

I do hope, though, that this huge adoption, as that's how it was represented in the conference, will come to Europe too. I can't look forward to paying a Crispy McBacon over Tor.
4823  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Guide] How to run a Bitcoin Core full node for under 50 bucks! on: April 08, 2022, 03:13:24 PM
The reason why it is not available by default is that "pruning" means "I want to reduce my disk usage", but "txindex" means "I want to store everything".
Sure, it's oxymoron and there's no essential utility unless one wants to store all the outputs, but no blocks for some reason. That reason could perhaps be to run an SPV server with less expense?

If you don't want to store everything, but verify everything for your own good: Run a pruned node.
If you don't care of storing everything or you want to go beyond personal use: Run a non-pruned node.
4824  Other / Meta / Re: Official unofficial forum logo on: April 08, 2022, 02:27:15 PM
Is this purposefully awful? With all the respect.

Not gonna lie, this reminds me of the Bitcoin Cash logo.
I thought Bitcoin Cash was green. Anyway, yes, everything related with Bitcoin Cash reminds Bitcoin somewhat.  Tongue
4825  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Guide] How to run a Bitcoin Core full node for under 50 bucks! on: April 08, 2022, 01:53:56 PM
You cannot use those two options together
What's the problem with keeping everyone's UTXOs and dumping the blocks? I'm just saying that you can have the same benefits even if you're planning to run an SPV server, without keeping the entire chain, but only the outputs.

Sure, if it's personal use set it to 0.

Edit: My bad. You're right. I hadn't ever tried it, to be honest, but I thought it would work. Could you explain me why a pruned node can't index all the transactions? The blocks/index is less than 40 GB and it could be used if one wanted to run an SPV server.
4826  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Guide] How to run a Bitcoin Core full node for under 50 bucks! on: April 08, 2022, 11:51:29 AM
By that I mean, when we ask the majority of the population they probably aren't going to be willing to pay for something just to use their own money, they would rather have third parties which handle that for them.
Not wanting true decentralization doesn't mean hell-bent to lose self-custody. I believe the majority of the users, excluding those who're here just to trade, use SPV clients as it's the easiest solution with the least risks.

Those who leave them on centralized exchanges haven't understood what they've bought either way.

Thoughts?
I think the storage cost has little matter. Running non-pruned full nodes definitely helps the network, but if the user doesn't want to buy an extra hard drive, they can enjoy the same features by running a pruned node with txindex=1.
4827  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: April 08, 2022, 07:39:51 AM
Shitposter's masterclass...
Adding more shitposts of that asshole:

tell me when your brother is murdered or child abducted that losses are only  in your mind
bitcoin has become more destructive by far than the system it was meant to replace. It has great depression scale crashes every year. For the sake of humanity it has to be turned off
bitcoin faced its test this year and failed. would it actually work against inflating fiat? no, it actually was devastated and fucked up everyone who used it as FIXED SUPPLY money.  So bitcoin is a known failure and is recorded history of relentless yearly monthly and weekly crashing. It may be suitable for drug dealers and criminals and niggers, but it is not suitable for humans
government may not have the knowledge to shut it down. Crypto people do. It has become the responsibilty of good men to end the bitcoin experiment. It failed. There is a better way and its not bitcoin
4828  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BitcoinTalk Problem !!!!! on: April 07, 2022, 07:34:55 PM
Just because you don't scam people it doesn't mean you're trustworthy. You may had said that you're a child porn seller; it wouldn't matter if you were honest with your trades or not. That, alone, would immediately make me include you to my distrust list.

Same goes for account selling. Account farmers fill this place with garbage.
4829  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everyone forgot April 5th...? on: April 07, 2022, 07:07:36 PM
We call "Pizza day" the day that Bitcoin was used as a medium of exchange for the first time. We also made it official to celebrate January 3rd, as it was the day Satoshi mined the genesis block. But, to do the same for their birthday, posts, emails, transactions, the whitepaper etc., is an exaggeration. Don't you think?

he's not that careless in my opinion but if it's true then I'm happy birthday to the founder who is still very young he is successful now
If it's true, he's 47 right now. That's not very young.
4830  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What needs to be changed when SHA-256 is broken? on: April 07, 2022, 05:43:38 PM
Moving to new types of hashes may present worse unknown flaws without as rigorous of testing.
Let alone that if it hasn't even shown a sign of weakness, as ECDLP has, it won't do any good all. No one tells us that the new algorithm won't become weak in few decades, but the system will get less efficient. There's also the temporary community upheaval asides.
4831  Other / Archival / Re: Announcing Wasabi Wallet 2.0 on: April 07, 2022, 04:39:56 PM
They see Walmart as a store they pay at for groceries.  And they see Bitcoin and Centralized Exchanges as a way to get rich.
You make it sound as if it's mostly the users' fault. Sure, there's definitely responsibility individually, but what would you expect if I was the CEO of the most popular exchange? What if I portrayed Bitcoin as a way to make a quick lolly and had excessively good traffic and advertising in social media and search engines?

That being said, add that governments constantly try to brainwash everyone. They say that it's a direct threat to the economy, but in reality, it's direct threat to their control. When was the time when Christine Lagarde stated that cryptos are not currencies? Didn't the commercial banks send to everyone that they should not use cryptos as they're financially risky investments? How many times has the cyber crime secretary scared everyone for the volatility and the criminal usage?

Stop living by "their" rules. As I said, I have literally never had a problem with tainted coins because I will not use any service which enforces arbitrary rules on me.
This is not so simple. If a quarter of the total merchants accept Bitcoin using BitPay or Coinbase etc., you're unable to use many services. Same happens with Tor; you're excluded by many websites. Is that due to some government order, is it due to the fact that they feel they're fighting spam, whatever, you have this drawback.

If you don't care neither about those then it won't take long until you start living outside society.
4832  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What needs to be changed when SHA-256 is broken? on: April 07, 2022, 03:12:13 PM
Not that I'm a genius when it come to hash functions, but wouldn't it be much more likely to have 160-bit collisions (from RIPEMD-160) first? I remember reading that SHA2 is more computationally expensive than RIPEMD-160. That would mean drastic measures way before 256-bit hashing algorithms become weak.

1) What would have to be upgraded in Bitcoin besides mining - txids, merkle trees, block headers, signature hashes?
Multi-sig Pay-to-Witness-Scripts are SHA256 encoded with bech32. SHA256 is also used in address generation of every other address type, although the 256-bit number that is resulted from it is then hashed with RIPEMD-160. This shouldn't change unless RIPEMD-160 became weak. Then, it's the Lightning Network.

2) How hard would be to migrate these parts of Bitcoin with a minimum damage?
I have a feeling that it won't be that hard. As far as I know, Bitcoin has had a hard fork only once, with the value overflow incident, but if it's a necessity (as it was in 2010), I believe consensus will be found.

In other words: If it's favoring every user, it's reasonable to assume that there won't to be a lot of noise. If we're bordering on benefits, such as back then with the block size war, it's going to be tough.

3) What would happen to all the UTXOs in e.g. P2SH, P2WPKH, etc. - could they still be moved after the hash function change (which would be a hardfork probably)?
There are two choices.

  • We leave them untouched, which means they can be taken by those who own the required computational power.
  • We announce that SHA256 will not be recognizable by the hard-forked client after block x. This could leave few years for their owners to upgrade to a collision-safe algorithm. Those who had lost access to them or wouldn't want to upgrade for some reason, would have them removed from the hard-forked Bitcoin's circulation.
4833  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's preventing bitcoin from worldwide adoption? on: April 06, 2022, 06:32:17 PM
So tell me, where else would you bitcoin for the very first time? In an ATM on a public street? From some stranger paying cash? If you are new, whether you like it or not, buying from an exchange is still the safest way because nowadays exchanges are pretty much idiot proof, so it's very hard to lose your funds if you have a little brain.
Of course and you should use an exchange, but it doesn't have to be a centralized one. Use decentralized exchanges; there's no privacy invasion, no extraordinary fees, no KYC nonsense, no middlemen who own your money.

One with good reputation is Bisq.
4834  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Proposals for global shutdown of crypto on: April 06, 2022, 04:25:33 PM
Ideas on how to shut this endless crashing garbage down safely?
You can't shut down a revolution safely. That's why it's a revolution.  Wink

Next.
4835  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a Myth and not Real on: April 06, 2022, 04:08:57 PM
If this topic is disturbing your inner peace it's better for you not to visit it.
I'm interested in the Bitcoin Discussion board, but your shit thread keeps coming up.

It doesn't mean he is wrong.
It depends on how you understand incorrectness. If you take the time to read the entire thread, which is not recommended unless you have nothing better to do, you'll realize that he's an obtuse who thinks he's proved that every crypto user, from regular forum users to geniuses, have gone nuts.

He's also a sock puppet[1][2][3].

[1] Antithesis
[2] antikvark
[3] fxsurfer
4836  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a Myth and not Real on: April 06, 2022, 12:59:05 PM
Satoshi is a lying bastard, we're all idiots who use something that doesn't exist, you're a very smart person who has never had alt accounts. Have I forgotten anything? Oh, right, and debt-based broken money FTW.

Can you get the hell outta here now?
4837  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The reason people join bitcointalk forum on: April 06, 2022, 11:44:28 AM
If it's really filled 50% by spam that has no other use than earning someone a fraction of a penny and advertising someone else's 10,000th 'next Bitcoin' token, it means theymos could cut his server costs by half if those posts were deleted, right?
Loycev.club and Ninjastic.space would certainly. As you said, I have no worries judging by the forum's reserves. Tongue

What are your thoughts on this?
That opens up a long discussion. I was also interesting in tackling the spam, but this forum is known for the freedom it seeks. Cutting off the bounties must have been one of the most much-discussed topics in Meta.

In summary, that's why:
The things on the forum which encourage spam are allowed mainly because it's part of the forum's mission to be as free as possible. Eg. banning bounties would undoubtedly reduce spam, but that'd be destroying an entire economy/population/culture which has been able to develop due to the forum's freedom.
4838  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Pls More clarification on WIF private key format and A CHECKSUM is needed. on: April 06, 2022, 11:30:16 AM
Dose that means that after someone has generate wallet's private key and decide to change it to WIF format, one must include these extra features?
Yes, which of course happens automatically in the back end. Once you generate your private key the software forms the [prefix, private_key, checksum] and converts that series to base58.

What is the most important factor to consider when providing this difference?
What do you mean what's the most important factor? Mainnet's prefix is 0x80 and Testnet's 0xEF; it's just a way to make WIFs distinguish. Those that start with "K" or "L" are Mainnet's compressed keys while those that start with "c" are Testnet's compressed keys.

Check the symbol chart: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Base58Check_encoding#Base58_symbol_chart

Also, as previously stated, CHECKSUM functions as an error detector, which means that while inserting the wallet, it will detect if it is correct. So, what types of errors does Checksum detect?
It's the first 4 bytes of the SHA256 of the SHA256 of your private key.

It detects if you've written it down correctly. If you make a mistake in your 32 bytes private key, the checksum will be invalid which will make the WIF invalid. If you write the checksum incorrectly, the WIF will be invalid. In both cases, it's because there's mismatch between the SHA256(SHA256(private_key)) and the checksum.
4839  Local / Αγορά / Re: ΠΩΛΕΙΤΑΙ AVALON A1166 pro 81TH on: April 06, 2022, 10:52:50 AM
Για μένα είναι βλακεία να δώσεις τόσα λεφτά σε mining rig, αντί να αγοράσεις κατευθείαν BTC.
Είναι προφανές ότι θα δώσεις περισσότερα χρήματα στα mining rigs για να παράξεις BTC σε αντίθεση με το να αγοράσεις απευθείας BTC. Το πρώτο όμως σου υπόσχεται παθητικό εισόδημα (όποιο κι αν είναι) ενώ το δεύτερο μόνο ανατίμηση του κεφαλαίου σου.

Θα ήταν καλό αν έχει δοκιμάσει κανείς από δω με ηλιακά πάνελς, να μας πει αν αξίζει.
4840  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The cost of bitcoin transfers on: April 06, 2022, 09:54:02 AM
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As said, that's what happens.

When someone creates a transaction and funds one of your addresses, they create a UTXO, which stands for Unspent Transaction Output. The more the inputs you have (which are essentially your UTXOs), the more expensive it'll be to spend them all.

Also note that if you use Segwit, it'll come cheaper.
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