Hmmm... my forum has an RSS feed for each subforum, but I can't seem to find one for the forum as a whole. Not sure if you're even interested in having forum banter on your page anyway! But, if you want, check out http://www.bitcoinforums.net/. Pick any or all of the RSS feeds you see in line with the forum headings. I added the news section because that seems most relevant to the Twitter account. Y'all haven't posted much in there though, I encourage you to post forum updates and whatnot! They'll get tweeted.  Makes sense - thanks! |
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Hmmm... my forum has an RSS feed for each subforum, but I can't seem to find one for the forum as a whole. Not sure if you're even interested in having forum banter on your page anyway! But, if you want, check out http://www.bitcoinforums.net/. Pick any or all of the RSS feeds you see in line with the forum headings. |
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But if people donate, he can take 50% of the donations....
Idea not to let people to participate for free in jackpot draw... somebody must pay for it... because real money involved. I have 10 BTC. I'm about to cheat system.. I mark 10 bills, photo them, upload to the site. In 1 month I fake 10 discoveries... Result - so be it... you not participating in jackpot If I donate 1 BTC upon finding banknote - 0.5 BTC goes to jackpot. So participation in jackpot draw will cost 0.5 BTC - Result - it's ok... If that's the case (people have to pay to enter the jackpot), why wouldn't they just enter a less complicated lotto? |
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As is, the system could be gamed by one person submitting a banknote and the claiming-he-found-guy as the same person.
No, this is taken care of because 50% donation goes to jackpot... and if nobody donated - person is in isolation because he will not be participating in jackpot. But if people donate, he can take 50% of the donations.... |
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SgtSpike, you've done such a fine job maintaining this thread, I thought it best if you were the one to start and maintain another one, one with much importance. KNOWN bitcoins donated to non-profits (or something similar/catchy--"Re:" in front?)You could start with these two below on your new thread, making sure to link the non-profit's donation page and BTC amount to its blockchain info, as shown below. Group B Strep International (GBSI) ~ 130.05405 BTCInternet Archive ~ 515.32217001 BTC 130.05405 + 515.32217001 645.37622 As in this thread, users can also keep track of the running total, with you, along us, acting as moderators, double checking the reliability of all submissions. ~Bruno~ Ok, interesting idea, I might take you up on that.  Most non-profits who accept Bitcoins have public Bitcoin addresses, so wouldn't tracking totals donated to them be as simple as looking up the current balance in a given address? |
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Really, the BTC mined during testing amounts to a drop in the bucket compared to what they are selling these things for. No, I do not think they are purposefully keeping them on hand longer than necessary for testing purposes. They want to get them out the door so they can get more orders in.
It wouldn't really make sense for BFL not to test them by mining for their own profit. I don't believe that rotating through stock, say keeping 30 singles running at a time would be negligible. 30*(832 Mhash/s) = 24.96 Ghash/s At current difficulty (1498294) with an exchange of $4.7 per BTC (about what it is at time of posting), that would be a little over $550 per a week for them. Seems like a decent amount of money while further ensuring that the product works. Well, think about it from a different perspective. If they only sold 30, and they tested them for 12 hours straight, they'd have 25GH/s for 12 hours, and make about $39 worth of BTC. But they sold those 30 units for $17,970 Do you see now why I said that the mining income is a drop in the bucket? Even if they kept them for a week, they'd only make $550, as you said, which is less than the price of ONE unit. Given that they'll get more orders the quicker they are sending the units out, I can't imagine they would hold back for a week on 30 of them, just to make enough mining profit to equate to one more sale of the units, while potentially losing out on many more sales of units because of the delay. Make sense? |
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Could Bitcoin Become the Currency of System D?Bitcoin is barely three years young. Any bootstrapped currency initially will have a chicken-and-egg problem due to the fact that a currency’s overall success is determined by its network effect and pervasive spread. Critics of bitcoin as a currency are quick to point out that not many merchants accept it as a payment type yet. That will change. And, they also point out that the total available market is severely limited. Oh, how wrong! Bitcoin’s first potential mega-market just so happens to be the second largest economy in the world and its sole competitor in that sphere is depreciating government paper cash. Game on. Game on indeed. |
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- There is no way to do that anyway. E-mail addresses are free, you know?
- It wouldn't matter anyway because the original has a link to the paid invoices, so even if the operator was buying tickets himself, it doesn't give him any advantages over anyone else in itself.
I saw you misunderstand this potential fraud method earlier in the thread (anyone else, and I'd say spread disinformation denying this fraud method), so I'll clarify. A raffle operator who buys his own tickets buys them for free, because the money goes out of his pocket and right back into his pocket. If he buys half his own tickets, there is a 50% chance that his fake entries will "win", and he will get to keep the raffle ticket earnings plus not have to ship the prize to anyone. Real: I earn 200 BTC in ticket sales, and send the prize to someone Fraud: I earn 200 BTC in ticket sales, and 50% chance I send the prize to someone In all cases where I recommend disclosure as an anti-fraud mechanism, it is something that you can't make hundreds of for free without detection, such as your forum account here. But there's also a 50% chance that he has to send 100 BTC out of his own pocket to another person, if they win. |
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Really, the BTC mined during testing amounts to a drop in the bucket compared to what they are selling these things for. No, I do not think they are purposefully keeping them on hand longer than necessary for testing purposes. They want to get them out the door so they can get more orders in.
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Expected this to be done late last month, but I'm assured we are getting very close. That is very awesome. |
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EDIT: WTF, totally ninja'd by Blazr. >.<
The force of boxxy is strong with this one. Ok, now why'd you have to even bring her into this? |
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UPDATE: I updated the spreadsheet to reflect the modified referral-finder code.
Note that only the referrals were having an issue. All other data is still already verified.
The updated total referrals count went from 30 to 44, so that means that my error was cheating people on the lower half of the spreadsheet out of 14 referrals.
Since I feel awful about this, I am going to give 100 free tickets to everyone*
(*This is a joke considering it wouldn't change your odds at all.)
Ermm... giving 100 free tickets WOULD change your odds. If I have 75/100 tickets, and another person has 25/100 tickets, then my odds of winning are 75%, and his are 25%. Now you give both of us an extra 100 tickets. I now have 175/300 tickets, and he has 125/300 tickets. My new odds of winning are 58.3%, and his new odds of winning are 41.7%. Just sayin. Also, Blazr, good point about using a pre-recorded stream. I hadn't thought of that. Maybe also showing some live chat at the same time would suffice, but then it is getting complicated. EDIT: WTF, totally ninja'd by Blazr. >.< |
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Some kinds of "time theft" or whatever are just officially allowed by your employer, for good reasons.
Other things aren't, however, and you just shouldn't do those.
Things like using the bathroom or jotting down personal notes surely belong to the first category, if done within reason.
Using company resources for CPU mining (which isn't even profitable as a whole), or outright stealing inventory, certainly belongs to the latter category.
I get that, I do. Just irritates me how people jump on someone that doesn't affect them at all (unless it creates negativity towards bitcoin). I personally avoid people I don't like. But I don't try to destroy them. I believe in justice, and making the world a better place. The world is a better place when scumbags like D. Metcalfe aren't allowed to continue stealing from the company he works for. If no one reports crimes when they happen, then there would be no incentive for people to not commit crimes. In other words, crime would be rampant. Part of keeping a civil world civil is ensuring that the lawbreakers receive just punishment for their actions. |
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Just use random.org. Use a cell phone to stream the pick live on ustream, so that everyone knows you're not cheating, and you're done! Viola!
You insult me, sir. I'd create a pinwheel with perfectly measured pie slices in accordance to shares, and stream myself throwing a dart at the spinning wheel to choose the winner. Hah! I'd love to see a pinwheel with 47,000 individual slices... |
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Your call Matt. I only have 2 tickets so I don't really care. It would be useful excercise in using the block chain to ensure no ability to cheat. Random.Org is only random if you actually make it random not pick a buddy as the winner. Not saying you would but using the blockchain as a double blind picking method reduces the need for implicit trust. I totally agree. I want to learn this, but it still doesn't make sense to me completely, and that bothers me since I'm usually a fast mover on things. When the block comes around can you show me hands on what has to happen again? Just use random.org. Use a cell phone to stream the pick live on ustream, so that everyone knows you're not cheating, and you're done! Viola! |
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Are these boxes good for anything useful besides BTC mining? I know the BFL web site says they're for crypto, but what specific applications would a single be good for besides BTC mining?
Cracking SHA256-encrypted passwords or data. You sure about that, it would require a new bitstream. Has BFL provided you details on how to reprogram your device? Care to share? BFL indicated (but hasn't been verified yet) that the JTAG would be useless for even ID the chip being used much less reprogramming the device. No clue. Sorry, I just assumed that it could be programmed to run any SHA256 calculations. Didn't know there were additional restrictions on it beyond that. |
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You sorted the list by the SHA, not sure I like that. I had 2 purchases sperated by quite a bit of time, I like the idea of the tickets for those not being in 1 block and 2 blocks of numbers.
Phil
It's exactly random and the same number of chances regardless of where they end up in the list...  |
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Ok I think this has gone overboard. I'm willing to bet that everyone in this thread has "stolen" company resources. Ever gone to the bathroom outside your allotted break? That's theft of time. Used a company phone to make a personal phone call? Theft of time. Talk to your coworkers about the NCAA tournament? Read Facebook at work when it's not your job to do so? Used a sticky note to jot down something that you forgot about to do at home?
etc, etc.
My 7970 (at home) costs me $0.64 cents per day to mine. The shit I just took at work 10 minutes ago? $2.08 of company time.
Listen, I get that you don't want bitcoin to get a bad name, and these actions would darken bitcoin's image. But seriously, I would have just ignored the kid, not get him fired. That's wrong, IMO.
So, you're equating bathroom breaks with $500/month of electricity and stolen computer systems being sold on eBay? Really? REALLY? I mean, I think it's an interesting thing to think about (I even analyzed the company I work for a few years ago and estimated they paid $17k/month for people to use the bathroom), but I wouldn't at all equate unintentional labor hours lost with intentional misuse of company resources and/or actual theft of physical resources. |
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Are these boxes good for anything useful besides BTC mining? I know the BFL web site says they're for crypto, but what specific applications would a single be good for besides BTC mining?
Cracking SHA256-encrypted passwords or data. |
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Paid for by donations, not free. |
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