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4841  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any suggestion in investment in Defi coins/tokens on: September 25, 2020, 07:09:52 PM
Decentralized finance doesn't really have any benefits to the traditional lending system but it has more cons to add which definitely make the defi projects useless in the long run.For example giving complete control of your funds to someone will result into complete loss if the value of the coin dumped and also attacks from hackers can be the real challenge.

But in the traditional lending system you are too giving complete control of your money to someone else. Most of the time you don't even know who is in control of your money. As for hacking, traditional banks can be hacked too (not really hacked, but robbed). The only difference is that money in the bank is insured. I guess eventually DeFi users will be able to insure their money to be safe from dumping tokens and bad smart contract code. DeFi is still new and it needs more time to develop to become a competition to the traditional lending system.
4842  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: September 25, 2020, 02:46:08 PM
Tako treba,  ne treba unaprijed odustajati i predavati se 😀
Nije važno što pišeš uglavnom u hrvatskom dijelu foruma,  prijavi sve svoje kvalitetne postove i samo skupljaj merite 😀
Proslavit ćeš ti promociju u Hero brže nego što misliš 😆

Ma da. Samo što mi Hero member ništa ne znači u trenutnoj kampanji jer bi morao početi ispočetka, od najnižeg Tiera, a to mi se ne isplati.
Trofo je napisao da pišem tamo gdje me zanima... Zanima me diskusija vezano uz altcoine ali tamo mi oči krvare kad čitam diskusije. Prestrašno! I ne mislim samo na nepoznavanje engleskog jezika nego što uopće nema diskusije. Točno se vidi da svi samo štancaju postove da bi ispunili bounty kvotu. Ali dobro... Opet sam off topic Grin
4843  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Uniswap - "free money" on: September 25, 2020, 11:20:40 AM
Kad smo već kod "free money", naišao sam na vijest da se UNI tokeni rezervirani za tim nalaze na "običnoj" Ethereum adresi. Ti tokeni bi trebali biti zaključani i postepeno bi se trebali otključavati tokom iduće četiri godine. Kako su tokeni na standardnoj Ethereum adresi, onaj tko ima private key ih može u bilo kojem trenutku dumpati. Za sad nije bilo izlaznih transakcija s te adrese ali isto tako nije bilo niti za SUSHI tokene dok vlasnik projekta nije dumpao.

Naravno, ovo ne znači da će netko dumpati tokene, ali je popriličan red flag.

Sad mi je palo na pamet nešto... Može li Binance na temelju korisničkih UNI tokena utjecati na odluke? Jer za postavljanje proposal-a treba imati 10 milijuna UNI koje oni sigurno imaju kod sebe budući da se jako puno UNI-a trguje na Binance.
4844  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Question: (Wrapped Bitcoin (WBTC). on: September 25, 2020, 09:38:37 AM
having touched a price of $ 40,826.50 in 2019.

What can go up, can also go down. If this "stable coin" doesn't always stay on the price of Bitcoin, what stops it to also go way under the price of Bitcoin? Nothing. Would you risk that?

If WBTC smart contract does not contain any bugs, then WBTC price will always follow BTC price because they are the same thing, only on different network. BTC exists on Bitcoin network and WBTC exists on Ethereum network. In order to generate 1 WBTC you need to lock up exactly 1 BTC and you can't unlock that 1 BTC until 1 WBTC is destroyed. That's just like DAI is pegged to USD, xDAI is pegged to DAI and so on...
4845  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Was 2017 the "Golden Year of Crypto"? on: September 25, 2020, 09:30:52 AM
I've missed that year badly man!
When some shitcoins were 100x from what they are now , I remember ethereum blue got 2$ then and now 0.001$ , everything pumped then , I loved it , was so much easier to make money out of crypto , this year is not bad too but in Defi section and yield farming!

Oh my God! Ethereum Blue... You just remembered me about that project. Is it still alive? I remember earning a lot of money back then when it pumped. But the problem is that back then no one could earn money when BTC price was going down. Now we have futures and leverage trading where "big guys" can earn money when BTC price is falling so for them it's not important that price go up. It just has to be volatile to earn money.

I believe that the BTC and other crypto prices will rise again, but no one knows when. Something has to start the next bull run. It won't happen on it's own.
4846  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Question: (Wrapped Bitcoin (WBTC). on: September 25, 2020, 09:15:08 AM
WBTC represents Bitcoin and it is collateralized with 1 BTC. The purpose of the WBTC is to transact on DEXs on the ethereum network.
1 BTC and 1 WBTC have the same value. In the future, there will be many other blockchains covering Bitcoin, not just Ethereum.

This is good explanation. I would just like to add that you can lock up your BTC and receive WBTC. That way you can trade WBTC (which is in fact BTC) on decentralized exchanges that (currently) support only Erc20 tokens.

One more thing... WBTC is not special. There are plenty of wrapped coins. For example, in Uniswap you can't trade with ETH because ETH is not an Erc20 token. When you buy some token for ETH, your ETH is first converted to WETH (wrapped ETH) and then it gets swapped for token of your choice.
4847  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain and Bitcoin adoption globally. What is the cause of the slow pace. on: September 25, 2020, 09:09:58 AM
Blockchain and Bitcoin has been on for more than a decade (according the statoshi's white paper) and up until this moment, there is still struggle in the global community in terms of adoption. Countries like India once placed sanctions on the technology and later lifted it. Russia made laws to govern and regulate the operation of the technology in a bid to take advantage of the solutions it proffers and loads of other stuff ongoing in different locations but still we still have a very slow paced increase in growth and devlopment and acceptance. What could possibly be the reason and what are the ways to further create awareness and global acceptance.

Well, for Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general to become adopted, people need to start using them. And by using them I don't mean buy and hodl. People need to start using cryptocurrencies to buy stuff. In my country there are some shops where you can purchase goods for Bitcoin. When more people will consider Bitcoin as money that you can purchase goods for, it will be more adopted.

It would be great if governments would look at Bitcoin and crypto as next step of the financial evolution but there is nothing we can do about it.
4848  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any suggestion in investment in Defi coins/tokens on: September 25, 2020, 08:24:18 AM
Well tokens are not really decentralized so there is no point of trusting their maximum supply will be same forever/I don't think these defi hype will exists for months so we need to make thing more faster as much we can and make something out of it.Privacy coins are good for long term but its better to diversify the capital into privacy coins, top market cap coins and potential growing coins.

S, you think that privacy coins are here to stay but DeFi will disappear after some time? I don't think so. Sure, DeFi is hyped right now, but that doesn't mean that it will disappear after few months or years. I think DeFi is definitely here to stay. But the problem is that probably 90% of projects that are live now will die out. Just like with any hyped things, there is a lot of DeFi projects. Some are pretty good and will probably survive in the long run, but majority will die out simply because they are copies of other projects.
For example, Synthetix is a DeFi project that is being developed for two years and back then no one didn't even know about decentralized finance. It's easy to start a new project that will do nothing else than copy another project. But it's hard to start a project with fresh, revolutionizing idea that Synthetix did back then when they were starting in Q2 2018.
4849  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: September 25, 2020, 05:53:21 AM
Još jedna novost za sve one koji vole da se kockaju i prebacuju Bitcoin na ethereum erc20 token kao wBTC, uskoro će to biti moguće i na Tron blockchain-u kao wBTC trc20 uz pomoć Bitgo-a.
Ja ovo nikome ne bih preporučivao, ali ima nekih prednosti kao što je višestruko manji fee, ali ima i dosta rizika:
https://www.coindesk.com/bitgo-is-bringing-defi-friendly-wrapped-bitcoin-to-the-tron-blockchain?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

Pa dobro jel taj Justin Sun planira išta napraviti s tim Tronom ili mu je jedini roadmap kopiranje Ethereum protokola? OK, sad korištenje Tron mreže ima smisla jer je puno manji fee (ako se ne varam za withdraw USDT na Tron mreži burze ne naplaćuju fee) ali zar je to način vođenja projekta? Ajmo kopirati sve što netko drugi napravi i nazvati se konkurencija. Suludo!
4850  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: September 25, 2020, 05:50:26 AM
U zadnjih tjedan dana sam se nakupio Merita kao rijetko do sad. Puno hvala svima... Hero member je sve bliže i bliže Grin
4851  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Uniswap - "free money" on: September 24, 2020, 01:47:08 PM
@slackovic, ako nadjes vremena, molim te opisi postupak “ubacivanja” ethera i linka u sam pool, moze biti od velike koristi novim ulagacima, da se ne zajebu  Cool

Nije to neka mudrost. Otvori se Uniswap i u gornjem desnom kutu se odabere Pool.

Nakon toga klikom na Connect to a wallet spojite svoj wallet. Ja sam koristio MetaMask u kombinaciji s Ledgerom i nisam imao nikakvih problema. Sve ostale opcije (WalletConnect, Coinbase Wallet, Fortmatic i Portis) nisam isprobao pa ne znam kako rade.

Kad ste spojili wallet u gornjem desnom kutu pisat će stanje ETH-a i dio adrese walleta koji je spojen (jer MetaMask radi s više adresa).

Ovaj dio LINK/ETH se vidi jer imam tokene u tom poolu. Da bi se u neki pool stavili tokeni, klikne se na gumb Add Liquidity i onda Select a token gdje odaberete koji token ćete staviti u pool. Kod prvog odabira tokena potrebno je odabrati listu tokena. Ja koristim Uniswap Defaul list.

Naravno da u pool ne morate stavljati ETH i neki token nego možete odabrati bilo koji par koji Uniswap podržava. Samo pazite da pool ima volumena (jer ako nema volumena, nema provizija pa time niti zarade) i da jedan od tokena nije neka shitara koju će netko dumpati.

Dakle, nakon odabira liste pojavit će se popis svih tokena koji su na toj listi. Tokeni koje imate u walletu izlistani su na vrhu liste. Nakon što se odabere par u koji ćete dodati svoje tokene, upisujete koliko ćete dodati. Budući da se dodaje ista vrijednost u dolarima, kad upišete primjerice da ćete dodati 100 LINK, u drugom polju će se automatski upisati koliko drugog tokena trebate dodati. Iznad gumba Supply piše i koliki postotak u poolu ćete imati dodavanjem te količine. Prema tom postotku možete otprilike izračunati kolika će biti zarada. Pogledate koliki je volumen tog para na Uniswapu i izračunate koliko od toga je fee (0.3%). Onda od dobivenog iznosa i vašeg udjela u poolu izračunate koliku bi zaradu imali u protekla 24 sata. Na primjer, ako je volumen $10.000.000, provizija od toga je $3.000. Ako je vaš udio u poolu 1%, znači da bi u protekla 24 sata zaradili $30. Naravno, taj iznos ne znači puno jer se volumen na Uniswapu mijenja drastično. Recimo, kad sam ja ubacivao LINK i ETH u pool, volumen je bio $8.000.000, a 24 sata nakon što sam ubacio u pool volumen je pao za 60% (a time i moja zarada).

Ako prvi put ubacujete tokene u pool morat ćete napraviti dvije transkacije - approve i supply. Prvo se napravi approve čime se daje dozvola pametnom ugovoru da upravlja vašim tokenima, a kad ta transakcija prođe (radi se samo jednom za svaki token) možete stisnuti gumb Supply i ubaciti tokene.

Kao što sam spomenuo u prethodnom postu, dobro je pratiti cijene gasa na Ethereum mreži jer nije isto hoćete li transakciju platiti $5 ili $20. Po mojem mišljenju, držanje tokena u poolu kraće od mjesec dana se ne isplati jer onda većinu zarade (ako ne i sve) "pojede" trošak transakcija.

Eto, ovo je ukratko. Nadam se da će nekome pomoći. Samo pazite u koje poolove ubacujete tokene da impermanent loss ne bi postao permanent.
4852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: $ UNI is ------- (UNI) ? It's price will be UP our down in Future crypto marke on: September 24, 2020, 09:25:40 AM
UNI has voting value in the future, and currently, UNI is only for trading between traders.
According to the UNI distribution, in the future, the price will inevitably fall as there are more and more UNIs. It may be like the CRV when it goes public, it has a high price but the more it decreases later.

That's not entirely true. Price doesn't have to go down just because new tokens are minted. Price goes down only if there is no demand for the token. If the demand is higher than the number of newly minted tokens, then the price will go up. There is a lot of projects that have unlimited supply (Ethereum for example) and their price is going up.
Demand increases because Ethereum is used as transaction costs, raising capital for projects, as collateral in DEFI ...
So what is UNI used for other than voting? The value of the UNI displayed is based on the interpersonal transaction, whether it is demand or manipulation.

I didn't say anything about use cases of UNI. I'm not sure if there is any use case expect voting or are any other use cases planned in the future. I just said that price of any token doesn't automatically decrease just because new tokens are minted. If demand is bigger than the number of newly minted tokens, then the price will go up.
4853  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: September 24, 2020, 06:06:58 AM
Evo, pošto sam budala i prošlu prijavu sam postavio u krivi topic (hvala CryptoViking na upozorenju), da se prijavim s novim postom vezano uz stavljanje tokena u Uniswap liquidity pool.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5272533.msg55253186#msg55253186
4854  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Uniswap - "free money" on: September 24, 2020, 06:05:55 AM
Evo da nakon dva i pol dana napišem svoje dojmove. Nakon što sam u ovom postu izračunao da nije tako loše biti liquidity provider (ali ipak treba biti svjestan rizika), ubacio sam LINK i ETH koji mi ionako stoje na Ledgeru u pool. Moj dio je otprilike 0.02% cijelog poola i nakon cca. dva i pol dana sam zaradio $8 na proviziji. Nije loše obzirom da se odnos LINK i ETH nije promijenio puno. Trenutno imam 0,5% više LINK-a i 0,47% ETH manje što je praktički zanemarivo.

U svakom slučaju, po meni je važno staviti u pool parove koji su likvidni, koji imaju veliki volumen i gdje možete biti koliko-toliko sigurni da nitko neće napraviti exit scam. Naravno da u kriptu nije ništa sigurno ali smatram da je ipak sigurnije staviti LINK nego SUSHI ili neki drugi novi DeFi token.

I još jedan savjet... Pazite na cijene transakcija! Može se prilično uštedjeti ako pričekate da se gas malo smanji. Ja sam u pool ubacivao oko 21 sat i platio gas 70 gwei. Jutros vidim da bi transakcija prošla i s manje gasa. Prema tome, nema žurbe. Pratite Ethgasstation i kad je gas relativno nisko, napravite transakciju. Ne želite platiti transakciju $20 i onda čekati pola mjeseca da zaradite dovoljno da pokrijete cijenu transakcije.

Po mojoj nekoj računici se ne isplati stavljati u pool na manje od mjesec dana jer inače svu zaradu pojedu transakcije. Dvije za stavljanje u pool (approve i slanje) i jedna za povlačenje (doduše još nisam povlačio pa nisam 100% siguran je li jedna, ali vjerujem da je).
4855  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: My Ethereum transaction has been pending for over a month on: September 23, 2020, 01:14:18 PM
thats 3 of the known pros of etherium  . 3 pros versus 1 con ?  common sense ,  why will we betray eth for that but seriously that was a painful experience if we are in a hurry and we didnt expect that our transaction will get stuck .

imagine if we pay someone or we ordered something  , and if we see that our coin gets pump .  i know theres a warning shown by some wallets but the time that they put can sometimes be inacurate .

I don't understand why is it such problem to speed up the transaction. When I was claiming UNI Etherscan estimated that confirmation will be in more than an hour. I opened transaction in MetaMask and chose to speed it up. I entered more gas and the new transaction went trough while the old one was dropped.
4856  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: $ UNI is ------- (UNI) ? It's price will be UP our down in Future crypto marke on: September 23, 2020, 01:04:17 PM
UNI has voting value in the future, and currently, UNI is only for trading between traders.
According to the UNI distribution, in the future, the price will inevitably fall as there are more and more UNIs. It may be like the CRV when it goes public, it has a high price but the more it decreases later.

That's not entirely true. Price doesn't have to go down just because new tokens are minted. Price goes down only if there is no demand for the token. If the demand is higher than the number of newly minted tokens, then the price will go up. There is a lot of projects that have unlimited supply (Ethereum for example) and their price is going up.
4857  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Merit Source aplikacija on: September 23, 2020, 12:53:46 PM
Tako da mislim da se uzjebavamo previse oko tih sitnica, koje nece utjecati na odluku. @dkbit98 ima dobru reputaciju, aktivan je, sigurno ima i hrpu prijavljenih postova tako da nema tu brige, ako theymos procjeni da nam treba merit source.

A da. Uzjebemo se zato jer se takve situacije na forumu događaju prilično često. Tu prvenstveno mislim na prijave na bounty kampanje. Kad se prijavljujem čitam pravila bolje nego što bi čitao ugovor o kreditu. Jer se uvijek nađe nadobudnih korisnika koji jedva dočekaju da upišeš "A" umjesto "B" i onda počnu napadi.
4858  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Tokeni sa 10x potencijalnom on: September 23, 2020, 11:25:04 AM
/snip

Uh... Pa di si bio prije listanja na Binance?  Tongue Obično projektima cijena brzo naraste nakon listanja na Binance ali onda krene lagano padati pa ću ja pričekati taj pad da bi ušao.
4859  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Merit Source aplikacija on: September 23, 2020, 11:22:44 AM
Ono sto ja znam je da je bolje sprijeciti nego lijeciti!

Tako da se slazem s @Pmalek po tom pitanju. Mozda je cjepidlacenje, ali bolje promijeniti nego poslije kukati, jer nikad se ne zna. Ljudi su svakakvi, tako da je bolje utjecati na stvari na koje se moze utjecati i napraviti sve po pravilima nego se buniti i mozda popusiti priliku radi toga.

Najveći problem je što sam već nekoliko puta doživio da se prijava ili nešto drugo na forumu zanemari ako nisi doslovno pratio pravila. Jasno mi je da je tako lakše, ali nismo strojevi. Ako je netko stavio link na poruku umjesto da ju je quotao, smatram da to ne bi trebao biti razlog za odbijanje. Pogotovo jer je tako zapravo preglednije.
4860  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Uniswap - "free money" on: September 21, 2020, 12:03:55 PM
To se zove impermanent loss, više informacija možete proanći na sljedećem linku ili samo guglati pojam.

Dosta je često da impermanent loss postane permanent, imate super primjer upravo u članku kojeg sam linkao. Ja se ne bih igrao s time, iako je hrpa ljudi digla ludu lovu na tome.

Da, ali moraš računati da dobiješ nešto i provizije koju Uniswap naplati, ovisno o tome koliki postotak pool-a je "tvoj". Naravno da možeš ostati bez svega ali rekao bi da je to opasnost s novim tokenima jer tu uvijek postoji šansa da netko dumpa svoje tokene i pobere sav ETH iz poola. Ali ako stavljaš liquidity u "velike" poolove (npr. ETH-USDT), onda je taj rizik vrlo malen.
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