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4861  Economy / Gambling / Re: 😺 RollCat.io 🚀 Provably Fair 🔒 Crazy Multipliers 🎰 Free Hourly Coins 💰 on: July 16, 2023, 10:47:49 AM
If you look at their site and see the chat room is full of their users complaining about the withdrawal process that hasn't been processed and it's been taking them a long time waiting for it, so far the OP hasn't looked to provide clarification on this, I don't want to accuse or say this is a scam site , let's wait for them to come in this thread and explain about the withdrawal process on their site.

If you look at the chat room, he is one of those who are complaining about withdrawal. He did send some messages and he is the one who keep posting messages in the chat room about his withdrawal. If you look at the representative account of the casino, the last online was a week ago and it seems that the rep left this forum already. It is a sign of scam, no doubt about it.  Not giving any response to players for days is a bad sign already. All forum members are warned by this issue. A small withdrawal but not being processed after a week and with no response from the admin.
It would be nice if the casino representative could explain the problem but it doesn't seem like that will happen because I saw a user who has been waiting 2 days but the withdrawal has not been processed. What's the problem? Why hasn't the casino or even the representative shown up and explained yet?

Unfortunately, we can't see what games are on the site so we can't say much about the site and can only see the chat room. So if anyone wants to play on that site, it's better to be careful because several players have complained about withdrawing unprocessed money. Hopefully, the representative will show up soon and explain everything.
4862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: July 16, 2023, 10:26:25 AM
Can you share your first experience playing gambling? and who told you about gambling sites?
For the gambling site, especially Bitcoin, my 1st time playing gambling in freebitcoi.in, and actually, I was going there is not to play games, but to earn satoshi, but after exploring and find in what made me interested, I am enough addiction to playing dice. But. is not that exact time, I know gambling about 20 years ago. in fact, I have been a dealer of "Togel" or Lottery on my local city. I sell that lottery on my college or university where many collegers bought it, as you know I can bring home about $10-$20 a day at that time. I was a fairly well-established student at that time.
It's not surprising if it's the first time you play gambling at freebitco because I also knew it at that time. I used to play Multiply a lot but it didn't give me many wins. I started the gamble by taking advantage of the free satoshi on the site and slowly trying to increase my satoshi amount. And many people would agree that freebitco was the first gambling site they used to gamble on when they first started getting to know crypto. The site was so famous in its time that people could get free satoshis to start gambling.
4863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Between futures trading and gambling on: July 16, 2023, 10:00:29 AM
Especially in my case I would prefer a casino or gambling game. Because I can start gambling on any match or casino but I will have a hope which site will win. But in the case of a futures trading, it is never possible to predict when the market momentum may reverse. In some cases the money is life changing so I think casino is the best way to make money which is less risky than futures trading. Futures trading can kill people's lives within moments which is very risky. But I had a lot of fun making money from the casino but it seems pretty safe.
It is very possible to predict the market if you have the ability. Just like you can gamble and win money. Everything will depend on how well you can make money, whether from a casino or trading futures. If you are comfortable betting on sports because you can win some money, you can stay in it and keep making money. Meanwhile, if people are comfortable with future trading, they can still make money from future trading. But we must know that gambling and trading have their own risks and that's what we must avoid by knowing how to avoid big risks.
4864  Economy / Gambling / Re: Loophole in stopping Money Laundering through Wagering on: July 16, 2023, 09:29:30 AM
Well, I think it depends on the amount. Because if we're talking a huge figure here ($100k up) and let's say you deposited, able to fulfill the wagering requirement and then tried to withdraw. Certainly you'll be ask to comply the KYC procedure to verify your identity. There's a case wherein the casino asked the user (after not processing the withdrawal) to give additional documents of proof of funds to know where the money came from, part of their AML procedure. Though this is a rare case, still it depends on the situation and the money involved.
That happens to many people who use big money when disappointed because the casino asks them to do KYC. Some of them don't want to do KYC but that's the rules of the casino that must be fulfilled by its members, especially for those who use big money. So KYC is a way for the casino to know if there are members who want to launder their money at the casino so that the casino can prevent it before they can withdraw the money. And people who want to launder their money in the casino already know this, so maybe they are looking for other ways that won't require KYC.
4865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: July 16, 2023, 08:59:52 AM
There will always be some situations where even with KYC you will have people who will disobey the rules and find a way to gamble even if they are underage. Casinos don't want minors gambling on their site because it can get them in trouble with their license provider. If you are caught they will certainly ban you. There is only so much an online casino can do to prevent this from happening while still respecting people's privacy.
With today's technological advances and the many devices used for various purposes, underage children can gamble without adults knowing. Even if casinos don't want minors to gamble on their sites, they still can't ban them, especially if the kids can pass KYC easily. Especially now that there are crypto casinos, it makes it easier for minors to visit crypto casinos and register themselves. They also quickly understand how to use crypto and may understand how to deposit their coins in crypto casinos to gamble. So it will be difficult to catch minors gambling in crypto casinos.
4866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack on: July 16, 2023, 08:21:38 AM
Guys above, I think I didn’t made the purpose of discussion here clear on my post. Apologie for that.

My goal on this topic is more on experience sharing and do survey if someone experience same thing on this provider instead of discussing strategy since this kind of result is just pure random. I'm only sharing how I'm upset when experiencing this situation but that doesn't mean that I don't understand how Blackjack works. I'm playing Blackjack for a long time and encounter many scenario like this.

The screenshot above is my complete game for the day that makes me 1 win and the rest is just draw and lose that makes me stop gambling for the day and share here.

I'm asking for other user that shares experience to get some moral support to boost my bad day. I'm not trying to accuse someone here but just looking for someone experiencing same to think that I'm not alone. This helps me to easily accept my bad experience and move on.  Cheesy
If you don't understand how Blackjack works, you need to learn more to play it well to increase your chances of winning. But if you find it difficult to win after you learn, maybe Blackjack is not the gambling game that suits you. You can look for other gambling games that might be more suitable for you so that you can get more wins than when you play Blackjack.

But in your story, you experience something that disappoints you. I don't think you need to be disappointed because, after all, everything depends on your luck in gambling, so you have to be aware of this. Maybe you will be lucky another day.

In addition, you must learn to make a budget for gambling so you don't exceed the limit of your money. Winning and losing in gambling is normal, but if we often experience defeat, that's not normal and there must be something wrong with us. Maybe restrictions on the use of money should be applied to anticipate bigger losses.
4867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: This is not Practical on: July 16, 2023, 08:03:14 AM
It depends on your perspective, if you think the money you lose is an opportunity cost, it's mean your purpose to gamble is for making money. Although some gamblers can beat the house and double or triple their bankroll, but most of the gamblers are loss. That's why we should consider the money you lose is a money you can afford to lose, it's mean your purpose to gamble is for entertainment. The entertain in gambling is when you feel the music, when you have a conversation with other gambler, etc.
But if their goal is to make money gambling, it will require a lot of money. But if they think that the money they are using to gamble is money they can afford to lose, they will have no regrets. And it's true that we should gamble with the money we can afford and never increase the money if we can't afford to see a bigger loss. We must prevent bigger losses and that is the responsibility of each gambler so they must pay attention to how much money they have used to gamble.
4868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: July 16, 2023, 07:36:57 AM
    -  It is really difficult to make casino gambling a stable income in this industry. Except maybe if you have a magic that you as the player will control the game so you always win, that's why there is no such thing in reality.

It's proven that gambling is really just a way to lose the money of most people who play here. And winning here is really just based on luck and if you happen to bet big and hit big or even hit the jackpot, that's it. And we know that when a lot of people play gambling in a casino, its owner will surely make a lot of money.
It is very difficult but that doesn't stop people out there trying it anyway because they think that it is only a matter of time before they can start making money from gambling. But for people who realize that gambling is a form of entertainment. They will not try hard and just gamble and enjoy it. Winning or losing doesn't matter to them so they don't think about it and just have fun.

So people should do self-introspection after playing gambling for a while to see how big their chances are of winning from gambling. And if they see that the opportunity is not too big, they have to change their thinking to seek income from other, more promising places.

For example, a professional gambler is sure they also have other sources of income from the work or business they run.
Gambling saves a million risks of losing money so if you don't have another source of income maybe gamblers will only play gambling in a short time because they run out of capital when defeat occurs, in contrast to gamblers who have a job or business which can have a steady income and can return to play at any time want to gamble.
What is certain is not to become dependent to make ends meet from the results of gambling because the result is that there is no clear certainty when you can get a profit.
Professional gamblers may already have other businesses that can provide income for them so they will not depend on gambling. When they want to gamble, they are ready with everything because their abilities are better than others. And if they lose, they won't make a big deal out of it because they know that's the risk of playing gambling. And only wise people would not use gambling as a place to make money because they already know it will be very hard to get. And as long as they can get money from other places, they don't need to think about the results they get and as long as they can control the use of their money, they won't suffer a big loss either.
4869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: July 16, 2023, 07:17:36 AM
Doesn't one's good fortune fluctuate frequently? You put your finger on it precisely: a lotto win is like capturing lightning in a bottle. We do witness the impact, but that's purely by chance. You seem quite jaded with repeat customers, though, which is unfortunate. Is the old green-eyed monster returning to torment us once again?

The reality is that people do pursue their passions. Even though the odds are astronomically against them, they refuse to give up hope. Who's keeping score when you're more likely to die from being struck by lightning while riding a bicycle across a tightrope? That's the strength of hope, right? It makes you gamble on things that aren't always the safest. It's ridiculous, but that's just how humans are.
True, luck often fluctuates so we should be aware of it and not try to chase more wins. So when someone cannot win a lottery ticket, he must realize that the lottery game depends on luck so he cannot rely on the number of lottery tickets he has. But when his luck comes, he may not need to have many lottery tickets because it only takes maybe only 1 lottery ticket to get his jackpot prize.

We cannot chase the desire to win because the lottery game cannot be regulated and depends on luck. We can only buy as many lottery tickets as we can afford, wait for the results to come out, and hope it is our win.

There are people who are extremely lucky in this world, these people can even win a jackpot with a single lottery ticket or with a single spin in a slot machine, we regular people cannot match their level of luck, we become happy when we hit a 10x multiplier while they get about 1000x or even more without even spending a lot of money or making a lot of efforts or spending much time sitting in front of their computers and gambling for hours.

We can't help but envy such people but that's absolutely useless, we can't get as lucky as them if we envy them or do whatever, it's all about your destiny and luck and if it's not so good, you would never be able to win anything significant through gambling or any means in life.
Yes, it was their luck so we can't equate it with the luck we have because it must be different. And whatever results we get, we must be satisfied and don't need to chase other wins. In addition, we also don't need to feel jealous of their luck because it's about fate and luck that each person has. And maybe one day we can also get a big prize, depending on our luck. It's better for us to enjoy our gambling game and not be eager to chase the win so we won't feel stressed and frustrated.

Luck really cannot come many times, but luck can always come unexpectedly, which makes gamblers continue to buy tickets regularly to wait for luck to come.
Lottery tickets don't require a lot of money to buy them so if a gambler buys 1 ticket every day maybe the loss isn't too big and let's just say buying a ticket is just fun so if you don't get a win you won't feel regret.
But everything depends on each individual gambler whether they will keep risking money every time to wait for luck or not.
People who buy lottery tickets can go on and on buying lottery tickets because they can buy in bulk without spending a lot of money. And that's what makes them buy lottery tickets again because they can determine how many tickets they can buy at a low price. But we should also manage the amount of money we use to buy lottery tickets and don't need to use a lot of money to buy them because that's not a guarantee we can win the jackpot prize. If you feel tired of waiting for your lottery ticket to come out as a winner, you don't need to buy it regularly but buy it regularly.
4870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: July 16, 2023, 06:53:47 AM
on the one hand, we are always reminded by other people, even the casino gives a warning that gambling responsibly prevents someone from chasing defeat. but nevertheless it is human nature that a sacrificial defeat will certainly make regret afterwards emotional and uncontrollable.
what's worse, if someone who can't control himself will become more addicted and become more crazy losing everything he has.
Greedy human nature that each of us must control so that we don't chase losses or even chase wins. But most people will try to chase losses because we are not used to seeing defeat after gambling so we keep gambling and recovering losses. And it's true what you say that a person cannot control himself when he experiences a loss because his emotions will peak and the desire to recover the loss will increase. When that couldn't be controlled, it was only a matter of time before he saw that person suffer a total loss.
4871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How is your Gambling Pattern Like? on: July 16, 2023, 06:35:31 AM
It's difficult to self-regulate from discipline because gamblers probably won't think about being disciplined with time, in fact many gamblers forget the time when playing gambling, so I don't think that alarm clocks can help us fully when we have to start gambling and when to stop gambling , it all has to be from our own self-awareness to regulate emotions from the heart so that we can control everything.

I think the most effective way is to limit the budget so that it is not too wasteful and waste money on unnecessary gambling, when the budget money runs out always remember that gambling wisely and always consistent with the limits that have been set because with that it can help us be more disciplined during be lived consistently and this is a healthy pattern of gambling.
Even though it can't help us completely, at least there is a reminder for us to know when to stop gambling. And if we continue to practice stopping, we will not be affected by gambling and can even manage our time to gamble and do other things.

Limiting money for gambling can also be done to prevent you from using excessive money because many people still forget to limit their money. And before the budget for gambling is exhausted, we must stop regardless of the outcome and not try to recover our previous losses.
4872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Signs that indicate you are not addicted to gambling on: July 16, 2023, 06:17:56 AM
Addiction is a dangerous harm that can happen to anyone. Within the good range of the mind, gambling can be controlled. There are various characteristics that demonstrate one to be a gambling addict. As an illustration, if you detect any desperation or persuasion to bet, it signifies you're on the edge of becoming or have already been classed as a gambling addict. Accepting that you're an addict doesn't seem easy; most of us try to deny it to the best of our abilities, but it's reality, and it will always come after us. I believe that new addicts should seek help and open out to someone who can aid them.
Opening up seems to be a problem for addicted gamblers because they are too worried to hear the response from those around them when they discover a gambling addiction. But they still have to do that if they want to cure themselves of gambling addiction and even though it's hard, they have to try it. Not all people who are around him do not want to accept the fact that there are people who are addicted to gambling around them so those who can accept it will try to help people who are addicted to gambling. Only we can recognize whether we have started to get addicted to gambling or are we still fine and have to see how far we gamble.
4873  Economy / Gambling / Re: Where should I play? Asking for recommendations. on: July 15, 2023, 12:23:24 PM
How much money do you use to gamble? If it's over $100, it seems that many casinos will ask you to do KYC because KYC is an obligation for members to verify their gambling accounts. If you don't want to do KYC, you should avoid using too much money so that you won't be asked to do KYC even though it's unlikely.

But you can try the gambling sites one by one from those provided by @Peeps Place. We must find a gambling site that suits us and is not based on our suggestions because it may not be the one we seek. So you better find it yourself.
4874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? on: July 15, 2023, 11:54:10 AM
It can be dangerous when someone don't have a good understanding but friends that have understanding can not have barter because of disbursements of gambling wining funds, normal money always bring separation between two friends who stake together but before you merge your money to stake bet with your friend, you should have known your friend, and I believe that knowing your friend attitude should be one of the important thing you should know as a friend before joining him or her for a business that involves money
The only problem that may arise from combining money to bet is the problem of dividing the profits from the winnings. This may have often happened where two or more people combined their funds into one so that their total bets could be bigger and the winnings would also be bigger. And when one person does not want to accept the distribution of money according to what has been determined, it will definitely lead to disputes and later can lead to fights. So we should gamble with our own money and not combine it with other people's.
4875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Signs that indicate you are not addicted to gambling on: July 15, 2023, 11:37:09 AM
That can't be called addicted if you use it for work or other productive choirs but if you use it just for browsing any nonsense online and you didn't do any useful things on whole day long then this can be considered as addicted traits. But in gambling if you are fine and can last a day or two without participating any gambling activity then you are fine and doing right. Compare on those people who's been addicted already for sure first thing to come up on their mind is to gamble and they cannot pass any day or minute because they always want to gamble. This is bad since we know what addiction could bring to a person and this need immediate help to avoid getting into bad conditions.
That means as long as we can stay on the right track, namely, not wanting to gamble excessively, we can take good care of ourselves. And even though we still gamble a few days later, we don't have to worry about gambling addiction. Only those who always think about gambling and want to come back daily may already have a gambling addiction. And if a person can still do things outside of gambling well and doesn't think about gambling, he is not yet categorized as a person with a severe gambling addiction because he can still control himself. But if what happens is that the person always thinks about gambling and always wants to come back, then they may have a severe gambling addiction.
4876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Who you betting on? on: July 15, 2023, 10:59:45 AM
There is surely no need for us to be hyped about this fight as it is not yet sure if it will indeed happen sometime soon.

We all know that both of them have seen to be preparing for something like a cage fight as this will happen in octagon as well and sources also revealed that they are trained by famous professionals in MMA but the question is still the same, will any of this things will happen?

Preparations are futile if they don't have any schedule on when the fight should happen.
We don't know if it will eventually happen or not. I didn't think much of it until recently because whatever they did, it wouldn't have much impact. But it seems like many people are still waiting for that fight and they want to see who has a chance to win.

It's also possible that their fight won't happen in real life, but they created an app battle where people will see who can have more fans later.
4877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Appropriate percentage of income for gambling on: July 15, 2023, 10:28:55 AM
Using 5% of your weekly income makes sense. Whatever percentage you gamble with depends on how much you can afford so if someone uses 12% of their weekly income, that's fine. I probably use about $10-$20 a week to gamble but I don't spend it for a week because I often leave the balance in my gambling account until next week so I don't have to deposit another amount. That's more than enough for me to gamble. After all, I don't gamble too much so the amount of money is still within my reasonable limits.
4878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you been threaten to stop gambling on: July 15, 2023, 10:04:47 AM
The system is difficult; we has to confront favorable conditions in gambling while applying new techniques that are beneficial to us. We have responsibilities and ought to step in and deliver where we are called upon; most of us are married and have children; we are unable to depend on gambling to provide for our families; rather, we need the basic skills to use our gambling earnings to invest in another business. Self-control is absolutely necessary for gambling; with this attribute, one would be confident enough to refrain from gambling for a day, because we all have our daily budgets to achieve from the system.
Actually, this is communication between us and our families and not hiding our activities in gambling. If they find out we gamble and know we can control our gambling, they may accept it and stay with us so we don't cross the line. But it will be difficult if we decide to make gambling a source of income because it will be difficult to get it. Self-control is really needed so without having self-control, we will only experience big loss. And what is even worse, we can develop a severe gambling addiction.

You've painted the situation in stark, binary terms: exercise self-discipline, keep an eye on your budget, and don't let gaming drain your savings. Good work, however I'd argue it's too simplistic. Although self-restraint is essential, maybe the problem has more systemic causes. It's interesting how people are expected to take responsibility for their own actions yet the institutions that encourage harmful ones are often ignored. What if we imagined a society in which gambling was not the norm and where people were actively encouraged to seek excitement in other ways? While we're on the subject of absurdity, think about the thrill of placing a wager on whether or not the sun will shine the following day, or the mirth of losing a wager on whether a leaf will fall from a tree. What a wide range of emotions, from elation to despair, would be available to test. In the end, isn't real triumph found in knowing one's own limitations and accepting life's uncertainty?
That's what we have to know, learn, and do so that we don't experience any problems with gambling. But sadly, many people are compelled to gamble more so they will spend more money. They would even secretly use money for their families and not tell the truth. And when the family finds out, it will cause anger and maybe they will threaten us to stop immediately. And when that person loves his family more, he can stop and leave gambling. But if not, he would still be gambling secretly. But actually, we don't need to feel threatened by other people to stop, but it requires awareness from us to stop gambling.
4879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How is your Gambling Pattern Like? on: July 15, 2023, 09:23:47 AM
And it is not like this is an arduous task or anything, almost every single person in the civilized world now carries a phone or a smartphone with them, and one of the most basic tasks you can do is to set an alarm to notify you about something you may want to remember.

So you could set the alarm of your clock one hour from the moment you start gambling, and once you hear it then you stop gambling immediately, if you can do this consistently not only you will limit the time and money invested in gambling, but you will develop self-discipline and any chances of becoming addicted to gambling will drop considerably.
What you say is true because by carrying a phone, we can arrange the schedule we must do every day. It also makes it easier for us to remember what we can do after doing one activity. And by making a gambling schedule, we might be able to play gambling regularly and stop at the right time so we don't cross the line.

And with that schedule, we can practice discipline so that it will be useful for us and will not cross the line. Limits can prevent us from playing excessive gambling and we will stay on the right track.
4880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: July 15, 2023, 08:27:31 AM
Losing is never a nice experience as every single person out there has a sense of win or loss and they want for things to turn out on their favor, and even if we understand that when we gamble the odds are against us we still want for things to go our way, however there are gamblers which take this too far and instead of accepting that defeat is part of gambling they stubbornly decide to keep gambling in order to transform their loss into a win, not realizing they are just transforming a small loss into a big loss instead.
If someone has experienced a loss or a losing streak, he should stop immediately because that could trigger him to recover his losses by playing longer bets. This will not work in their favour as they will play with such passion that they will lose control of themselves and again, they will lose. The next loss may be even bigger and harbouring disappointment from the previous defeat, making them even more disappointed. And they can keep playing gambling until they lose in large numbers.

Lets us make it look entirely like such move doesn't favor some gamblers, what I believe we should be talking about is the fact that, such move doesn't favor most gambler, it only favors the very lucky few..
I am talking about chasing after gambling losses, and one other thing I must lay emphasis on is that, losing is not such a bad thing after all, it all depends on the gamblers and their individual mindset, if a gambler is losing and yet, keep gambling, and still losing but refuse to stop, that's very fine as long as he is OK with  the loses.

But then again, if the gambler is losing and refuse to stop gambling, and later on comes around to complain about losing too much, then such a gambler is mentally ill.
Trying to catch up on gambling losses will only increase the number of our losses and even get bigger because there is no guarantee we can win in the next round. We should immediately change our mindset so that we don't have to experience big losses or consecutive losses, especially since we have often seen many people suffer consecutive losses. If we have lost, it is better to rest and even better if we stop gambling at that time. That means we care more about ourselves than chasing losses that are difficult to recover from.

It's one thing to be very conversant with something but a totally different different thing to be an addict of something. In reality, they have similar attributes but the later is more difficult to let go than the former.
It's very difficult for a gambling addict to wake up one morning and say that he's not gonna gamble again. But I think the best way to help an addict is to get a therapist who can help in talk him/her away from the addiction and also proffer other meaningful things he can do apart from gambling
When we see that someone close to us has a gambling addiction, we can try to help him by taking him to a therapist to get help. But we shouldn't force him because it's not his wish, so we can only suggest it. Or we can invite him to create a new habit that will make him forget the thought of gambling so that slowly he can realize that he is too deep into gambling. And doing something like that can at least make the gambling addict realize that he has to fix it soon or his life will be messier.

It is very important for us to always accept our loses and nit because we made some loses and go and come back to get it back. I know many of us might have made this kind of mistake before which might have resulted in a big loses that we never expected. The more we gamble, the more experience we are going to get that will guide us on making decisions that could help those would are newbies in gambling. Loses is not as a result of bad strategy or in accurate planning but it is a normal thing that every gamblers do experience as a player. You either win or lose.
Many of us make mistakes along the way and cause us to experience big losses in gambling and only by realizing it is all we can do, we want to fix it. By reflecting on what we have done and gained from gambling, at least we can see whether gambling has brought benefits or harm to us so that we can think about stopping and staying away from gambling. It will also reduce the emotional tension we get because the more often we experience defeat, our emotions will be triggered and cause us to get angry easily.
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