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4881  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 28, 2019, 05:30:57 AM
As for the issue of energy, we have gone crazy, we produce tons of products that are not consumed, globalization is fine, but to some extent.

Now everything that is bought is thrown away in a few days, months, shirt, pants, shoes, not to mention the planned obsolescence, nothing is built as before, everything is designed to stop working in x days

Apart from this, it would start by eliminating low-cost airlines, this if it is a waste of energy and a great focus of pollution.




Materials engineers designing materials to only last the life of a product is pretty shitty although it is a good business model. It's like the medical industry only creating treatments as opposed to cures. There is a fundamental problem with the way the world works.
4882  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 28, 2019, 05:25:43 AM
Maybe those protesters should all go to China and protest their policies, until China changes its policies, it doesn't really matter what any other country does.

For some reason the so called "environmental" people never actually call out or confront China, quite interesting.

Brilliant logic you have there, the neighbors are poisoning their ground water so we should help it along by poisoning our side as well and just to distract from the fact that we don't want to make any sacrifices lets point our fingers at them.

That'll teach them!


Thx by the link.

NP Smiley
4883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 28, 2019, 03:09:48 AM
Greta Thunberg sings Swedish Death Metal

https://youtu.be/CLxpgRqxtEA

This is great!






I didn't believe it at first so had to hunt it down. Smiley

https://youtu.be/WkOXbfkosKU?t=206





4884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion on: September 28, 2019, 02:27:04 AM
4885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: September 28, 2019, 02:20:05 AM
... There are also many projects with very low valuations!


None that hold the potential that this project has.
4886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week on: September 28, 2019, 02:05:46 AM
I picked up and played Greenbay's D so it my fault. Smiley
4887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week on: September 27, 2019, 04:26:12 AM
Several outlets are reporting that NFL owners are a proposing 17-game slate.

Link to ESPN
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27707277/sources-nfl-owners-proposing-17-game-slate

If they do eliminate the preseason games I think fans are going to riot.
I know I like the preseason.

-Dave

Just the hard core fans. Pre-season is not really indicative of the fielded team so basically all it really does is get players injured before the season starts. What they should do is work out something with colleges to field drafted players v/s established collegiate teams in a new bowl style playoff series.
4888  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 27, 2019, 04:20:53 AM
Shit, why did binance have to open a futures market...must resist.
4889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: September 27, 2019, 04:12:17 AM
Aha... okay thanks, for info anyway.  Dunno WTF to think about all this.  Same old same old I guess, i.e. "fucking POLO"

Oh, and... clams?  srsly?  LOL.  Just LOL, on clams. 

Anyone fucking around with 'clams' and gets burned, wow big surprise there. Not.

Still doesn't excuse shit that goes down against people from GS etc, polo is still fucking POLO but... clams.  LOL.


They just used the Clams because it was the easiest to use to raid the userbase, the coin didn't matter.
4890  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 26, 2019, 10:28:29 PM
Outside of bitcoin, the explanation about repo-gate from already familiar C. Long:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/caitlinlong/2019/09/25/the-real-story-of-the-repo-market-meltdown-and-what-it-means-for-bitcoin/

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For every US Treasury security outstanding, roughly three parties believe they own it. That’s right. Multiple parties report that they own the very same asset, when only one of them truly does.

Caitlin has always been good on this; the same rehypothecation exists in share markets, as she has properly ranted about before.  Basically Wall Street only makes money by selling what it has many times over.  Selling stuff it actually does not have is its business model.

This is part of the big financial institutions' problem with Bitcoin - that they can't own one BTC and sell it, or rent it out for interest 20 times over.  If they can work out how to rehypothecate Bitcoin you can bet your shirt they will, but so far there hasn't been a way because of Bitcoin's transparent ledger and regulatory issues.

Exchanges already do rehypothecate - so of course it is possible, but only where the institution holds the keys of other third parties, and people who pay for or rent Bitcoin trust that third party to hold it rather than deliver.  In this respect Bitcoin is like physical gold - rather than issued gold certificates.

Satoshi's design was all about this issue and the criminal recklessness of the world's financial instututions.  If you doubt this at all - I refer you, Ladies and Gentlemn to Bitcoin's Genesis Block.

They have, it's called options on non-settled future contracts.
4891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: September 26, 2019, 10:18:22 PM
Same nothing happened here no haircut for hodlers. Fake news!


Wait, just because it didn't affect you doesn't mean it doesn't matter?/?

Am I missing the joke?
4892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2019, 10:15:28 PM
Unbelievable how many coins have died since winter 2018, but Monero is still the one I think has a great future ahead!

It remains to be seen. In Korea, privacy coins such as Monero are being delisted which was reported to be coming from regulatory pressure. The key is always usage - as long as many are using Monero for private transactions, it will always have value.

Yup, the world follows Korea...we're doomed!
4893  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 26, 2019, 06:48:23 PM
Anyone has any wild guess at which price the real support might be at?

No.

Well, for a wild guess... either we are already there or... $7500? $6400?

No, really, I could keep throwing numbers out of my ass but it would be just that. Otherwise I would be rich by now. I don't think anyone else REALLY knows either.



dammit out, IOU +sM

thanks to Guys.

4894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 26, 2019, 06:36:02 PM
Anyone has any wild guess at which price the real support might be at?

Good question, tough to BTFD when you don't know how low it will go!
Thats why those auctions i linked earlier should be reasonable I would think.

Thing is when it rebounds it will be immediate with no warning.


Does anyone have a good realtime link for the Donald Trump impeachment?

I got my popcorn. Grin

4895  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 26, 2019, 05:49:01 PM
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[Yahoo Finance] Venezuela Has Bitcoin Stash and Doesn’t Know What to Do With It

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/venezuela-bitcoin-stash-doesn-t-141012087.html

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It isn’t clear how PDVSA came to own Bitcoin and Ethereum, or the value of its holdings. But the oil producer has struggled to get paid by customers via conventional channels because major banks are hesitant to do business with a sanctioned entity. Last month, the company received most of a $700 million payment in Chinese yuan after the parties struggled to find financial institutions that would facilitate a transaction.

PDVSA may be hesitant to sell its cryptocurrencies on the open market because it would require the company to register with an exchange and subject itself to due diligence. Instead, it wants the central bank, which officials at the oil company believe is less exposed to potential blocks, to use the crypto to pay entities PDVSA owes money to.
4896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: September 26, 2019, 05:15:58 PM

Sorry, you gotta DYOR.


Heh, umm actually kinda sorta seems to me that asking for info from well-established long-time forum members on sites like this, about shit that's happened in crypto space... IS doin' his own research due diligence study background etc etc, ain't it?

Just sayin'... lol

P.S. I'd like to know too about this clams-raid whatever happened?  Fuckin' Polo is no love lost on me either over the time, fuck those fuckers but still what's it about exactly?  I hadn't heard anything on it either.

I was to busy to google for him, guess I should have made that clear. Wink

@jwinterm, thanks for finding that IOU +sM when I get some.
4897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 26, 2019, 04:04:06 PM
Bitcoin being auctioned.

https://www.wilsonsauctions.com/auctions/government-auctions/AuctionEvent?saleCode=193560&location=Belfast
4898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. on: September 26, 2019, 05:09:38 AM
@felipepoide79. Bittrex coin wallet maintenance might last for a few hours or a few days in my experience. However, for cryptocoins with active development similar to Grin, it will not be long.

@Hueristic. There were already 4 audits for RandomX. All of them speculates favorable towards asic resistance.

I thought they decided to forgo the 4th one?



RandomX is botnet algo.  Angry

Whats wrong with that?

4899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2019, 05:05:18 AM
Hm, maybe you’re right, just few people are talking about this coin now... Everything that you wrote is good, but unfortunately it didn’t affect the price.


"Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own." -Baron Rothschild
4900  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 26, 2019, 04:53:32 AM
Outside of bitcoin, the explanation about repo-gate from already familiar C. Long:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/caitlinlong/2019/09/25/the-real-story-of-the-repo-market-meltdown-and-what-it-means-for-bitcoin/

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For every US Treasury security outstanding, roughly three parties believe they own it. That’s right. Multiple parties report that they own the very same asset, when only one of them truly does.

Rehypothecated, there's that word again.

I do not like this word. Smiley


Price at this level?

....

I think that by closing "The Shorts" we can see the price recovery, which can be fast, so they are testing offer at these price levels.

I just don't know why I don't care when the price drops.


I think I will never leave my accumulating phase.
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