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4881  Other / Off-topic / Re: I will invest! on: January 08, 2016, 05:18:29 PM
If you want sure profit you should invest here:
http://bitcoin.winspiral.net

And do not believe I have profit from your investment...
what you can read about me and my uncomon systems is generally wrong because people talk about without knowing.
if something is not clear ask the "creator" and not the ones who have understood nothing or have just seen the design  Grin

Have fun and profit.

4882  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: I don't understand Antpool 24 hr earnings on: January 08, 2016, 04:20:36 PM
I just started mining less than 24 hrs ago with Antminer S5.

Antpool dashboard shows


24 Hours Earnings

  BTC 0.01024470


Account Balance

  BTC 0.00284606


Total Earnings

  BTC 0.00284606

I don't understand this. How in less in than 24 hrs I would have made that much btc with antminer S5. And Why my total earnings is so much smaller then?



I have sometimes so as well
24 hours earning is an average estimated.
it happens generaly after a start of mining.
last time I'm earned few satoshi after few seconds...and the "calculator" has calculater oh 24 hours...
4883  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is this site legit? on: January 08, 2016, 02:17:11 PM
nice design...
at least the design is nice...
less people will say scam.
4884  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: January 08, 2016, 10:55:48 AM
Investing your DEUR could be very interesting for you before they have lost all the value.


How to get those free 30deus if Im not mistaken.

I just want to get the value of it in BTC as I will consider that coin will not good for a long term investment. Can you teach me with this?

it is now harder to get the free 30 DEUR (i think)
I have got them...and referral commission too.
i cannot better help you than what one can see on the DEUR website...or on this forum.

The DEUR is worth 500 satoshi or so...
but you have 50000 satoshi fees...when you withdraw in BTC.
it is why my offer is interesting...the risk is more on my side then for the invesor.

Thanks. So how you got the free DEUR? Honestly Im confused with the site. Why Im asking because my friend did all the instructions and downloading the wallet but haven't got the 30 DEUR. >_< . We haven't receive any respond yet in our facebook group.
I do not know how...
i have visited the site...downloaded the wallet  given an address and after few days i have got 30 DEUR
and so far I have 5 deur ref commision...
4885  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are all cloud mining sites ponzis? on: January 08, 2016, 10:50:26 AM
you are perhaps right...
i propose just for people who have very few DEUR not enough Deur to be able to sell them because the huge 50000 satoshi fees.
4886  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: January 08, 2016, 10:02:25 AM
Investing your DEUR could be very interesting for you before they have lost all the value.


How to get those free 30deus if Im not mistaken.

I just want to get the value of it in BTC as I will consider that coin will not good for a long term investment. Can you teach me with this?

it is now harder to get the free 30 DEUR (i think)
I have got them...and referral commission too.
i cannot better help you than what one can see on the DEUR website...or on this forum.

The DEUR is worth 500 satoshi or so...
but you have 50000 satoshi fees...when you withdraw in BTC.
it is why my offer is interesting...the risk is more on my side then for the invesor.
4887  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are all cloud mining sites ponzis? on: January 08, 2016, 09:55:35 AM
As my experience all of them are scam i have been invest many times but didnt get any ROI or profit
after invest in few you day or a months depends on interest they scam in the end..
So its better to stay holding your bitcoin until price is high..

Same as me, have invested bitcoin in several cloud mining service like pbmining, cloudminr, Hashprofit, zenminer and many more. They are ponzi behind cloud mining service.
I have very bad experience on investing bitcoin to cloud mining service, so I suggest people to don't trust any cloud mining now and NEVER.

I do not know my investors because I get only the BTC address...
but it seems that you have never invested in my U2cloudmining system...because my investors have so far never talked about so you do.

You do not help people because you believe that all people are looser like you...
no it is possible to earn with cloudmining...and if I say so it is because i know it.

Ok...you can fall on many scammers...

it is why..;i advice only my system because I know that i'm not a scammer (lol)
The same thing can be said for you by some other scammer owning hundreds of such ponzi or fake cloud mining's and there is no proof to it unless the guy fucks the investors but until then he will be very trustworthy.Like you believe yourself.

Yes the same thing can be said...unfortunately...
But it does not matter...why should my U2cloudmining system be fake?
people invest in the system not in the miner...
If it were only the miner i would advise not intesting.
But here I advice investing in the system...
it is absolutly not the same.
And i have never said how much it is judicious to invest...
I let people analyse by them thelves...
They invest for free and then analyse if it is well to invest more per buying shares.
i propose now DEUR...they are I hope able to analyse if it is good or not to invest in DEUR or lose the DEUR.
Because My offer to invest in DEUR is interesting...
of course if they have better...it is normal that they chose better...

4888  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: January 08, 2016, 07:12:33 AM
Investing your DEUR could be very interesting for you before they have lost all the value.
4889  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are all cloud mining sites ponzis? on: January 08, 2016, 06:43:13 AM
As my experience all of them are scam i have been invest many times but didnt get any ROI or profit
after invest in few you day or a months depends on interest they scam in the end..
So its better to stay holding your bitcoin until price is high..

Same as me, have invested bitcoin in several cloud mining service like pbmining, cloudminr, Hashprofit, zenminer and many more. They are ponzi behind cloud mining service.
I have very bad experience on investing bitcoin to cloud mining service, so I suggest people to don't trust any cloud mining now and NEVER.

I do not know my investors because I get only the BTC address...
but it seems that you have never invested in my U2cloudmining system...because my investors have so far never talked about so you do.

You do not help people because you believe that all people are looser like you...
no it is possible to earn with cloudmining...and if I say so it is because i know it.

Ok...you can fall on many scammers...

it is why..;i advice only my system because I know that i'm not a scammer (lol)
4890  Other / Archival / Re: DigiEuro ( DEUR ) Only CPU! on: January 08, 2016, 06:35:25 AM
If you sell your DEUR for BTC and withdraw in BTC from the exchager you get 50000 satoshi fees.
This is not a good deal for little deurholders.

i propose you to invest your DEUR in my investment system U2cloudmining.

Pm me ...it could be very interesting for you.
Of course the investment is not unlimited for unlimited people.

4891  Other / Meta / Re: How many red trust users are ACTUALLY scammers? on: January 07, 2016, 09:22:26 PM
Some of them are actually scammers, and some are just accused of being a scammer but it is not certain that they are.

In bitcoin, it's better to be called a scammer when you aren't, then to not be called a scammer when you are.

There are no second chances with irreversible currency, so it's best to err on the side of caution.

I'm red trusted and I'm not a scammer...

if Vod had got 1 or 2 negative trusts for nothing...and then taken for a scammer...now he would not talk so.

But it is true... i prefer have red trust for my honnesty than be at the place of my 2 negative truster...
I could not peacely asleep if I were at their place...I would be ashamed and I would certainly not be here now...

I'm even ashamed for them...(lol)

and to be very honest...it is possible that Vod is a scammer,but I have not proof...
If I follow Vod's opinion...i shoud untrust him...what i do...because I do not agree his opinion who accuses honnest people.
I'm sorry...in France we prefer guily people in freedom that innocent one in jail...
Vod would jail every one (lol)
4892  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [9 PH] Kano CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: January 07, 2016, 06:19:48 PM
yessss
thanks
4893  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: How can I create a Cloud Mining Ponzi? on: January 07, 2016, 03:45:28 PM
if you can at least set a fair ponzi, in which the money are returned back if in 24-48 hours there are no more investors, than it can end in a good thing i guess

but we all know that these ponzi always end bad, because of the greed of the owner, the funds should be held in a escrow, if you want to setup a fair ponzi...

soon or late it is collapsing.

years ago I have programmed a fun-ponzi.
people have invested their visit income.
every one knew that it was a ponzi sheme...it was open said.
after a time people have seen that they had to wait years to get a potential earning.
4894  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: How can I create a Cloud Mining Ponzi? on: January 07, 2016, 02:40:39 PM
It is so easy:
you ask BTC
you promise something back...

 and you hold them...
you disappear in the night (lol)
Looks like you are an expert about this ?
However there is no good reason to know how to run a ponzi scheme service , its pure bad thing.
Except you op have a plan to run this ponzi.

you are right...i'm an old fox (lol)
4895  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: New Hyip Scam http://btc2x.com on: January 07, 2016, 01:53:49 PM

I AM NOT THE ADMIN OF BTCX2

you invest too?
why your said I never run ponzi shemes...i only run econnomical serious systems??

Because it is so...I run systems,but i have nothing to see with BTCX2
I do not know why people believe this...
you never lose bitcoin in btc2x?

I have never invested in it...
they pay me 4 times but i want to fifth deposit my deposit not appear
 can you see my proof http://prntscr.com/9mq7s1

[/quote]

I can not help you...i have nothing to see with BTCx2
4896  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: New Hyip Scam http://btc2x.com on: January 07, 2016, 01:49:40 PM

I AM NOT THE ADMIN OF BTCX2

you invest too?
why your said I never run ponzi shemes...i only run econnomical serious systems??

Because it is so...I run systems,but i have nothing to see with BTCX2
I do not know why people believe this...
you never lose bitcoin in btc2x?

I have never invested in it...

they pay me 4 times but i want to fifth deposit my deposit not appear
[/quote]

and why could I help you?
4897  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: New Hyip Scam http://btc2x.com on: January 07, 2016, 01:38:43 PM

I AM NOT THE ADMIN OF BTCX2

you invest too?
why your said I never run ponzi shemes...i only run econnomical serious systems??

Because it is so...I run systems,but i have nothing to see with BTCX2
I do not know why people believe this...
you never lose bitcoin in btc2x?
[/quote]

I have never invested in it...
4898  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: New Hyip Scam http://btc2x.com on: January 07, 2016, 01:30:32 PM

I AM NOT THE ADMIN OF BTCX2

you invest too?
why your said I never run ponzi shemes...i only run econnomical serious systems??
[/quote]

Because it is so...I run systems,but i have nothing to see with BTCX2
I do not know why people believe this...
4899  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: New Hyip Scam http://btc2x.com on: January 07, 2016, 01:00:55 PM
Guys i just asking
whether still paid if i want invest

my systems of course pay...
I tell you because you ask... Grin

ahh glad to hear

well. i try small BTC for inves

thanks

it's better small ...you are right (lol)

I advice 0.01 BTC ...for the 100 days plan and then reinvest if it please...
For the U2cloudmining...it's more risky because people are afraid (lol)

Hi Winspiral.. is btc2x is one of your system?

Definitively not
I never run ponzi shemes...i only run econnomical serious systems

if you admin btc2x why my deposit did not appear?


I AM NOT THE ADMIN OF BTCX2
4900  Other / Archival / Re: DigiEuro ( DEUR ) Only CPU! on: January 07, 2016, 11:29:05 AM
400 satoshi  Shocked

what is the problem?
if you believe that it is to much sell
if you believe not enough then buy...

I can propose you to invest in my U2cloudmining with DEUR and you get BTC in return.
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