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4901  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: September 26, 2016, 06:19:14 AM
Bitcoin as salary, i dont think so! As we all know bitcoin price is volatile.
And almost store here in my country doesnt accepting bitcoin in terms of buy goods and services.
Let us stay at it is that bitcoin may used in the online services but not applied
to be as salary.

You are right  bitcoin wouldnt be considered on using  it  on  making  it as a salary to workers on  physical worl  because   price of bitcoin is to volatile and for sure no company would  intend to  purchase bitcoin just to make it as a salary for their  workers they would surely suffer  loss.
4902  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to tell your Girlfirend about BitcoiN?? on: September 26, 2016, 06:15:52 AM
Doesn't quite work, my wife couldn't care less and just switches off once I start talking about coins.

Maybe if you could pay for something in real life like a meal out or buy her something she wants and let her see bitcion being used then that may help as they will see a real world use for it.

I agree with you. And he could also show her some internet sites that lets pay in bitcoins, for example clothes store, and tell her how it is easy to pay with them, i am sure she will like it
thats right allow her to explore how bitcoin can be use for her luxury for sure she will got into it or try to make some surprise date using your bitcoin earnings and tell her how great bitcoin profits you.
A good way to tell your girlfriend is that tell her you are making money in bitcoin, and that is giving you more income because your are working while making money online, tell her that this is for your future so you need to work together for better result.

I don't think it will work as girls are not more interested in earning money, they know only how to spend them and they want everything ready on table so I don't they will make any efforts in earning it.

You are  actually right, most girls are like that, they dont like  on complicated things  they  just want an easy life without any struggles they would experience. In my girlfriend  i wont  mind on  telling her  about bitcoin i know already her interest into thing and  im sure  she wouldnt be interested  on bitcoin for sure.

She might show some interest in beginning but she would surely not interested in spending time on it on regular basis, and over a period of time she may find it boring.

Correct, they may show some interest at first but the big question is if they would  sustain  to do things that make them earn bitcoin? for sure they would not because earning bitcoin requires time  and effort to achieve it and  most girls dont like this kind of  stuffs  which they always like  for simplier things.
Yeah may be you are right, but everywoman in the world are like money, aren't they? I think woman will be interested with bitcoin if they can get a resourced from it. Woman haven't strenght like man. I thing earning bitcoin with joining signature campaign in this forum will be apropriate for them.

Yes,  women  usually likes money because they like to  buy their wants and as you said  they could be interested  on bitcoin since its  money but  even though they would  join on signature campaigns  i think they wont bother to do this things since  posting jobs are quite boring.
4903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 25, 2016, 05:49:43 AM

This is true. Aside from doing proper bankroll management, we must also be able to learn how to properly budget our money for family and other things in life that will add value to it. We should not use most of our money as our bankroll - it must be just a portion of it. Each session will have its own bankroll and there is already a pre-bet system that we just implement.
Yeah, we know how to handle financial income we can save more money even if we play gambling, gambling is just a game and we cannot put all of our money in this kind of activities, Yeah we can try gambling but you need to be matured enough before you try because if not you can have a possibility that you can be addictive.
yepp with bankroll management you will have to set a limit to lost ,
good way to avoid a huge lost in short time ,
and sure make your gambling are safer than without managing bankroll ,
so everyone agree that bankroll management are a method in gambling?
Yes, bankroll management is also one of the best way to save money and not put all money in gambling, because at the first place we all know that gambling is kind of game that needs understanding and we need to understand that we need to accept the outcome of our game. I know that we all need also self-control when it comes in gambling because without that we cannot manage our bankroll safely and we can get addicted easily.

Managing your bankroll properly would really help you out especially when you are playing  gambling  because  you could somehow  limit your self  on betting to much and  spending too much money. As long  we are aware on the results of  our  gambling betting we could  able to control it and also our emotions .
4904  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: September 25, 2016, 05:47:50 AM
I don't really trade that much and always just buy when I need it, so I don't wait around till the price changes or anything.
But when I sell my profit from investments, it's nice to get a high price for it Smiley
that's usually what people doing when they're not really into trading and use bitcoin just to be an ordinary currency just like another currency so the current price won't matter either,and ofcourse it's just normal thing to do,but if you can just hold it a little bit until the price just rising up even a little might be a little better
Honestly even you are waiting you didn;t know when is the right time to sell or to but bitcoins. bitcoin is unpredictable if the price is rising high do you think the price of bitcoin will decrease again back.. its not always happen just last and now the price is different so i think it is always to buy more bitcoins for lowest price and hold it the price is gradually increase year by year..

Right, we dont have really  idea  on when we should  sell  out  our  coins on a particular price point since we dont have any idea or our minds always  think  that  it  may  would rise even more  or  it would  decrease back again thats why  sometimes we missed  some good  opportunities to sell.
4905  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: September 25, 2016, 05:44:49 AM
Why would some one quit with the trading i dont know why peopel hate tradings because you will make the most money with the tradings if you are doing it the right way off course but it is not easy.
The OP gave trading a fair shot by trying to make money out of it for 2 years and it did not work for him in fact he lost bitcoin so I think the OP took a sensible choice and now is moving on to other things.
The two year period is already a very long time to decide, even in 6 months time if I see that I am not making any progress in trading, I would completely quit and focus on other things where I can get more chance to make money, I don't want to waste my time and money by continuing to do things that I am not good.
You are correct we must concentrate in whatever we are best, if trading is not for you then you should look for something else that brings you more profit.

People would  look for something new if  they already knew that thing would never work for him or  hes not good at it.  OP do trade for 2 years and  the  results were bad thats why  he decide to switch to other thing which is  a wise decision since there are lots of  investments out there does not involved on trading.

Thats why im trying to say which  people would  usually  for new  source of income if they saw that  their past transactions or investments  didnt work because  its normal  for us  human  to find something new. Quiting on a certain thing doesnt always  a mistake but also a good  decision it really depend on a  particular situation.
4906  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW MUCH YOU EARN/LOSE FROM TRADING on: September 25, 2016, 05:41:00 AM
I can not show up about numbers how much i have earned and lost in trading, because it is just waste my time and for save my time. I just saw from the capital be used, if my bitcoins growing up although little by little it is mean i have got profit and i make withdrawal it. it is simple way for me.

We have the same attitude, i really dont mind to list  or tally all  my success/fail trades as long  i see  my capital  grows even on small amounts same as yours, then its  okay for me, there no need to   wrote down each trades  just to see your trading history but  it really depends on a  person on  how he  utilize it.
4907  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin and Porn on: September 25, 2016, 05:38:36 AM
Bitcoin will fit to any service aslong it is here online, including the  shops and any gigs not just porn. But I guess porn and bitcoin is very likely matched, as long as you want anonymity in this kind of site, you are safe for your identity. All Crypto related users that like porn also will be much intrested on this kind of sites that accepts bitcoin as there payment method.
After reading the last post, I was convinced that the only useful one side bitcoin payment for porn, it's anonymous. I for example have never paid for porn and constantly received this video from the free resources. But if I had, it would also like to I do not know.

You're absolutely right, I see that a lot of porn sites that only give the bitcoin or just a small part of the porn sites supporting the growth of the bitcoin. All those who do not know or do not want to see profits bitcoin it will prefer to by using the means of payment which are already known and used by everyone

This is  a normal thing which not all porn sites do offer this kind  of payment  because  adoption of bitcoin is still on progress but with this kind of  step bitcoin would  somehow developed in porn industry and  those  porn lovers  out there would  surely love about this new payment system. Grin
4908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 25, 2016, 05:34:28 AM
Some people find new friends in gambling community and have a great time with them, discussing their favorite games and betting, so gambling can be a good way to socialize with other people just like any other hobby.

You could possibly boost social interaction with others  when you play gambling  but  you must think  about  the possible  things that  might happen when  you do it  on regular basis, you and even your friends would  surely got broked when you are playing and lossing  up too much which is  not  a good thing anymore even if you said  thats for socialize aims.
4909  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoins safe? on: September 25, 2016, 05:31:53 AM
Is it safe to keep all of my assets in Bitcoins? And how Department for Combating Economic Crimes, can affect my account?  What permissions they need , to freeze all my money ?
Bitcoin is safe to put all your asset is not advisable to do that we know bitcoin can drop the price or totaly gone. Maybe invest some then your investment increase you can convert in cash you profit and put in your bank account. Everytime your invest have profit always convert it to protect your money.
Putting all your assets  would not be  a good thing to do, as you said  bitcoins price would  eventually drop its price  in no time  and with that you would be experiencing  disaster  since you risk all your money on bitcoin but  if you have high trust  in bitcoin then  its up to you if you  put all of your assets on bitcoin. You must  take  on the possible outcomes that may happen.
4910  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: actual number of people using Bitcoin? on: September 25, 2016, 05:28:46 AM
It's hard to determine how many people are using bitcoin, because the number keeps volatile. Every day, there might people who join bitcoin and left bitcoin. And I think for now there is no method that is capable of calculating it.
You got it and  im thinking the  same way too, its  impossible  for us to track how many  people are engage into bitcoin since btc itself is anonymous and  we  wont have any idea to track people  who uses it but  one things for sure, people  who are buying ,using ,trading bitcoin is  increasing  because  we cant really stop its adoption.
4911  Economy / Economics / Re: Is gold better than Bitcoin? on: September 25, 2016, 05:27:03 AM
At this point in my opinion, we cannot compare bitcoin to gold.  In terms of history and trust.  Gold had already  established its value in the market while bitcoin is just starting to establish, it hasnt even rooted it's foundation yet in terms of government trust and economic purpose.  While gold had been around for centuries and proven it's worth already.

In that case, I would choose gold if I have been given a chance between the two.
And I think gold is more of "limited" than bitcoins where it can be mined.
Gold can be mined as well, but not as vast as bitcoin.

You cant really compared  a precious metal to a digital currency they are different in many ways. Somehow  they have  competition and could able to compare it in terms of value which somehow have similarities and differencies. Bitcoins price moves fast while  on gold   it may rise also  but it takes time.
4912  Other / Off-topic / Re: What will you do if you own 21 BTC? on: September 25, 2016, 05:24:52 AM
me i would buy a house (if the price increase alot) a gaming pc games of course and the left btc will gonna be for investment so my bitcoin can still grow

i think you have a miracle in mind not a price rise!
the price rise enough for you to be able to buy a "house", an expensive "gaming pc" and "invest the rest in a business" needs to be at least $5000 which is not going to happen anytime soon.

All the thing he mention about house,gaming pc, and business would be  impossible for 21btc equivalent on the current price of bitcoin but if he lives on a  3rd world country maybe  it would do  buy a small house and  a gaming pc and a small business that would be  somehow enough but if you really want to make  big money on those coins its better to hold  on a little bit more until the price would rise to its peak.
4913  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: September 25, 2016, 05:21:40 AM
There is always a risk involved in casino games due to the house edge which is beyond your control. You can try betting on sports where your knowledge can give you can edge over others but the odds are lower.

Overall if you seem to lose too much, I suggest you stop gambling.

All these games are made to give entertainment for players so if we play for making money then surely end up losing money most of the times and will win only if you're lucky on that particular day. So instead of chasing money in gambling just play for fun and if your lucky one day surely you will win.

Agree Cheesy Just enjoy the game and dont take it seriously because if you end up loosing then you cant control your greed and your emotions that will result to deposit more bitcoins on the gambling website and play more with the goal of getting back you loose money on the game but in the end you'll end up more loosing, you are making the website rich. Enjoy!

Treating  gambling as  an entertainment would  be a good thing since you are  aiming  just for leisure and not for profits and  mostly people  dont have  this  kind of attitude because  when they are playing gambling  like  dice games   they are usually  aiming for profits  which is  impossible for a dice site unless if youre lucky but if not for sure your money  would  all lose in the house.

this thing should be putted in all gamblers  out there which we  must think  and treat gambling as an entertainment for ourselves not  for money milking because  its an impossible thing to  happen in gambling. Dice games are somehow enjoyable at first but  if  you play  on daily basis  it would  go boring sometimes and also winning and making profits with it is not possible.
4914  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your average bet per game? on: September 25, 2016, 05:19:21 AM
Big bet is not my style, i never expected going to get profit in gambling, because its small chances we are going to win it, that is why i like to play in small bet, my bet is around 0.0001 i limit my self till 0.003 a day
That is good that you have a limit to yourself when it comes in betting in gambling games, because there are really a small chances of winning in gambling. We can never know when we will gonna win. And we are just playing for fun so why we need to bet big amounts right?

People have different minds and  do differ also on their motives , some  may be sensible enough  that they just bet  for small amount because they are already aware on the risk on gambling. True,  winning  chance on  gambling is slim because of the house edge and  its  impossible   for making profit with it. When i do gamble  usually i place bets on 0.001 sometimes 0.003
4915  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin even have a future? on: September 25, 2016, 05:16:38 AM
Bitcoin must focus now into solving the issue of security that may fail at 2100 when the last bitcoin should be mined, soo those system must be thinked and prepare for that, time flies fast. Bitcoin has a comunnity and support and several money invested at it, as well some others crypto coins that are improving their advantages and reaching anothers places bitcoin couldnt or hadnt.

Dont think up too much or show some concerns regarding  on year 2100 which is  84 years from now and  im not sure if bitcoin would still exist on that time. We should   talk about the years  regarding on  our lifespan.  Other crypto coins  would surely developed even more when years passed  just like what bitcoin did.
4916  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make 17 BTC out of 7 BTC ? on: September 25, 2016, 05:12:26 AM
Forex is the best way, but u need to be more patient and trade with less leverage

Forex would be  one of the best way on making profits out of your money but forex trading isnt easy as it sounds since you would really need knowledge and  analyzing skills, also you must good on  hearing or searching  for latest market  news so that you could  apply it  on your trading  strategy to make profitable trades.
4917  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin down to 500? on: September 25, 2016, 05:10:43 AM
After struggling around 550 $, we finally break 600 $ mark, and seems like btc is going back where it was. I think now we are going up, and this trend will continue until the end of this year. I'm watching graphics for last 4 years, and btc price movement is very similar with movement from 4 years ago, after halving little drop, and then to all times top. Can we see that same movement again? I'm not sure, but with btc almost anything is possible. I will not be surprised if we see new price record for couple months from now.

Thats the thing  i observed too when  im looking at the chart of bitcoins price movement from past years and  i could  somehow  compare it as of todays bitcoins path which have simmilar pattern or  just a coincidence. As you said   everything  in bitcoin  is possible lets  just wait and witness what would be the trend  in  upcoming  months or years to come.
4918  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 25, 2016, 05:08:05 AM
Invest on trading that would be better than investing on amy websites as well as on gambling it can't be profitable because you will end up losing in the long . If you have enough knowledge on trading that wpuld be your advantage and you have to improve it .

But without knowledge trading can be even worse than gambling, and it will require a lot of time and money to get on professional level. Investing in crypto business (like gambling sites or some other opportunities) is safer and easier. In trading you also need to check charts every day and still there are risks of flash crashes.

As my self i do prefer trading because in gambling i cant win i dont know why except sporstbetting Cheesy. I agree it requires knowledge , time and a lot of patience out it also you should check the chart always to know what is the happenings on the altcoin you've bbuying or selling. But at first it is difficult but in the following yyou will earn a lot Cheesy
You should stick to whatever venture that gives you money, usually if a certain thing gives us money we enjoy doing it. Gambling is good because it can give you temporary happiness so I think if we can do it the right way we should gamble and invest at the same time.

For me  i would  rather choose investment  than to gamble  because  if you would handle these two things it might be possible that your profits  on your investments would be used  for doing gambling which means that your investment would  be still useless because   you are just using it to gamble and  lose i all away. As we all know earning  money or bitcoin is not easy so we should  able to keep it or  invest more into other things.
4919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: September 25, 2016, 05:04:03 AM
It's not much fun loosing money but i still play for just the short entertainment gambling provides.
If you are playing purely hoping for profit every time then it sounds like you are getting in too deep and need to pull up a little.

There are some professional gamblers around but it must be a stressful occupation.
that is true , gambling are entertaining no matter you win or lost ,
people just take too serious action on their losts ,
make gambling as an income and being addicted are somthing that you should avoid to ,
just be an occasional gambler who want o have fun only.


Gambling must be treated that way only just for entertainment as you said aiming for profits and becoming addicted to it are the things that we must avoid when we are playing gambling. But as we all know no matter how we treat it the result would be still the same and that's losing money.
you can make gambling as your occasional hobby instead an income ,
first of all you need a stable income (more than what you need) have a permanent work ,
because i noticed that most loser gambler come from an unemployed ,
if you have already the requirement above you are good to go to gamble for fun without have to worry being addicted.
That is a very risky hobby, but anyway if you will only look at that way then you will be good. Just remember that once you play beyond the limits you will be at risk to experience the worst effect in gambling.

Correct, the word hobby means you are  playing  always since its a hobby which you would  have  higher chance on  being a gambling addict and with that you  are already risking your money  to loss in the end thats why  its not ideal to play gambling most of the time  or shall we say on daily basis.
4920  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: September 25, 2016, 04:59:30 AM
Saving money is not that hard but it can be hard when you do not make much money then it looks like saving money doesn't really works out. But even when you cannot put much money on the side it is still smart to do that.
of course it is not hard at all you should just not spend it and thats it it is as simple as that in my opinion

Everyone will certainly do it all ", there is no one who does not spend his money. unless they have a very large income and they can do anything well without you shall know all. I'm sure whatever we do with great caution and not careless, it will give you a good profit

Even though  we have lots of money we could still spend  portions of its since we are obliged to  buy our  needs to sustain live for  everyday. The  main advantage on having  huge amounts of income is that we could able to save money without any problems since our  money does make excess and thats the time we should  obliged also ourselves to pu up on savings.
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