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4921  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CHATTANOOGA SHOOTING: 4 MARINES KILLED in GUN FREE ZONE on: July 17, 2015, 03:42:20 AM



Donald Trump was unfortunately proven right on another one of his top issues Thursday: "gun free zones" at military bases.

Indications that Thursday's shooting at two military bases in Chattanooga, Tenn., occurred at or near "gun free zones."

In an interview with the website AmmoLand.com, Trump decried the zones on military bases, suggesting that they left highly-trained gun operators without a weapon to fire at attackers, with the exception of military police.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-would-end-gun-free-zones-on-military-bases/article/2567907



You are Islamophooob!  Why you spread hate!  All love and peace!  Read the Koran you will see!

<<sarcasm 120%>>




4922  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Iran deal in 26 seconds on: July 17, 2015, 03:36:12 AM
Your bias is glaring.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

How about showing someone close to the deal talking about it? Like the Secretary of Energy, Ernest Moniz

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/energy-secretary-moniz-on-iran-deal-details-485133379890

I don't even like Rachel Maddow, but your link is a joke.


U.S. and Iranian officials confirmed Thursday that no American nuclear inspectors will be permitted to enter the country’s contested nuclear site under the parameters of a deal reached with world powers this week, according to multiple statements by American and Iranian officials.

Under the tenants of the final nuclear deal reached this week in Vienna, only countries with normal diplomatic relations with Iran will be permitted to participate in inspections teams organized by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

The revelation of this caveat has attracted concern from some analysts who maintain that only American experts can be trusted to verify that Iran is not cheating on the deal and operating clandestine nuclear facilities.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-bans-u-s-inspectors-from-all-nuclear-sites/


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One of the administration’s key selling points is not the deal itself but what happens if there is no deal. In his news conference Wednesday, the president argued that no agreement all but means war. Administration officials have long argued that no deal would lead U.S. allies in Europe, as well as Russia and China, to walk away from sanctions, that Iran would accelerate its efforts for a weapon (achieving “breakout” status), and that Israel might strike. But selling the nuclear agreement on negative counterfactuals isn’t the most effective strategy, particularly when so many Republicans and Democrats are already opposed. The president spent a fair amount of time in the opening remarks of his news conference talking about what happens if there is no deal; this strengthens the impression that it’s hard to market the accord on its merits. His approach is designed to create a binary choice: If you oppose this accord, you bear responsibility for whatever happens. That “I know best and you’re irresponsible if you don’t agree” approach is offensive, not only to many Republicans but also to Democrats whose support the president needs to pass the deal.

Meanwhile, there is no one on the Iranian side to help sell this agreement. This isn’t a peace treaty with heroic actions and actors (certainly not on the Iranian side). The administration is in the terrible position of having to defend the agreement and, in a sense, defending Iran, because even the most articulate Iranian voices are viewed as proxies or shills of the Iranian regime. There is no Anwar Sadat, Nelson Mandela, King Hussein, or Yitzhak Rabin who can inspire and sway Congress or U.S. public opinion. One poll released Tuesday found that a majority of Americans don’t believe Iran will abide by an agreement. Iranian denunciations, particularly from hard-liners, will raise questions about Iran’s commitment to the agreement. It doesn’t help that Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has not wholeheartedly endorsed the agreement and has questioned the trustworthiness of U.S. negotiators.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/07/15/is-obama-building-a-case-on-iran-nuclear-deal-or-undermining-it/


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Last December, when I interviewed the leader of Israel’s left-leaning Labor Party, Isaac “Bougie” Herzog, at the Brookings Institution’s Saban Forum, he said, in reference to nuclear negotiations with Iran: “I trust the Obama administration to get a good deal.”

In a telephone call with me late last night, Herzog’s message was very different. The deal just finalized in Vienna, he said, “will unleash a lion from the cage, it will have a direct influence over the balance of power in our region, it’s going to affect our borders, and it will affect the safety of my children.”…

Herzog’s militancy on the subject of the deal places the Obama administration in an uneasy position. While the administration can—and has—dismissed Netanyahu as a hysteric, the eminently reasonable Herzog, who is Secretary of State John Kerry’s dream of an Israeli peace-process partner, will find receptive ears among Democrats for his criticism.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/07/israel-isaac-herzog-iran-nuclear-deal/398705/


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Iran will now become the largest country to rejoin the global marketplace since the breakup of the Soviet Union. By some estimates, Iran’s economy will grow by an additional two percentage points, to more than 5 percent GDP growth, within a year. After an additional 18 months, GDP growth could reach 8 percent…

Iran has the fourth largest proven crude oil reserves in the world, estimated at 157.8 billion barrels. That’s enough to supply China for 40 years. Iran already produces 2.8 million barrels per day. The International Energy Association forecasts that an end to sanctions will allow Iran to ramp up production by an additional 600,000 to 800,000 barrels per day within months, roughly 4 percent of global output. The re-entry of Iranian oil to the global market could lower 2016 forecasts for world crude oil prices by $5-$15 per barrel. That’s good news for oil consumers but bad news for Saudi Arabia, which stands to lose significant market share in years to come as both Iran and Iraq increase production and exports…

Critics of the deal insist that more money for Iran means more problems for the Middle East. Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran are already fighting via proxies in Iraq, Syria, and Yemen, but Iranian and Saudi military spending have not been comparable. According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, the Saudi government spent more than $80 billion on defense in 2014. The U.S. Congressional Research Service has reported that Iran spent just $15 billion. As sanctions relief injects more money into the Iranian economy, this rivalry will intensify. Even under sanctions, Iran continued to fund Hezbollah operations in the region, which analysts believe cost Tehran between $60 million and $200 million a year. Tehran also found ways to funnel $1 billion to $2 billion a month to prop up the Assad regime in Syria.

http://time.com/3961650/iran-nuclear-deal-economy/


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The agreement provides for “snap back” sanctions, which essentially lifts the suspension of sanctions in the event of an Iranian violation. Clearly, the snap-back function is designed to deal with a major breach of an agreement, particularly because Iran explicitly states in the agreement that it will stop implementing its nuclear obligations if sanctions are re-imposed. So what happens if Iran cheats along the margins? For example, if they enrich uranium to 7% not the permitted 3.67%. The snap-back function makes little sense in this circumstance but the Joint Commission that brings together all the negotiating parties could obviously address such an issue of non-compliance. In this case, however, Iran will likely to declare it made a mistake and say it will stop doing it.

Sound fine? Not really. Given Iran’s track record, it will likely cheat along the margins to test the means of verification and see how it might be able to change the baseline—and there needs to be a penalty for each such act of non-compliance and preferably not only by the US…

As such, deterrence is what will matter. Iran must have no doubts that if we see it moving toward a weapon that would trigger the use of force. Declaring that is a must even now. Proving that every transgression will produce a price will demonstrate that we mean what we say.

http://time.com/3960110/iran-will-cheat-then-what/


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Whatever the motives of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei in agreeing to this nuclear deal may have been, one of them was not to undermine the revolution and the hardline authoritarian nature of the state’s control. On the contrary, the purpose of the nuclear deal was to consolidate the regime’s position and to manage public expectations by creating a stronger economy and garnering more international legitimacy.

It is the cruelest of ironies that the very nuclear issue that has made Iran an outlier has now given the regime an opportunity to begin to end its international isolation. But there are other factors that limit how fast and far this process can go. The Supreme Leader, who has yet to endorse the agreement, has a need to placate hardliners and counter the rise of pro-negotiations elites such as Iranian President Hassan Rouhani. The best way to do that is to keep at a distance from Washington, and perhaps even to demonstrate Iran’s revolutionary credentials by toughening its image. Indeed, Iran is unlikely to accommodate U.S. interests by abandoning Syrian President Bashar al Assad, or by weakening its support for Hezbollah or for Shiite Iraqi militias…

To use an arms control agreement to significantly realign U.S. policy with a repressive state that has expansionist designs in a turbulent region is a very long shot. The Iranian deal is not a peace treaty that has produced an end state with a nation that plays by internationally accepted norms and conventions. There are no Iranian heroic actors in this drama, no Sadats, Rabins, or King Husseins capable of transforming U.S. political or public attitudes about the Iranian regime. Should Iran change — should it start to show real flexibility on regional issues — that might provide an opening for real change in the bilateral relationship. Releasing the Americans the regime is holding would be a start. Right now, I wouldn’t count on it. The Middle East may be the a region of miracles, but don’t expect one in the U.S.-Iranian relationship.


http://www.realclearworld.com/blog/2015/07/obama_iran_illusion_of_realignment_in_the_middle_east_111321.html


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As the state media under Khamenei’s control and the various other media under hardliner control seem poised to interpret the deal as a loss for Iran, Rouhani has few outlets for communicating with the people and steering the news in his favor. Even fellow reformists have seriously criticized his media team as the weakest compared to previous presidents. Since Rouhani has already raised public expectations about the deal’s immediate economic impact, the hardliners may use the actual pace of economic improvements — i.e., slow and uneven at best — to convince people outside their constituency that the agreement was not that crucial for Iran’s economy, and that what the country has gained from the talks was not worth what it gave up in the nuclear program. Perhaps sensing this potential problem, Rouhani’s team may now be trying to temper the exaggerated expectations. For example, his economic advisor Masoud Nili recently warned that “the sanctions relief would provide us with capabilities but does not make a miracle…If we do not manage the existing gap [between public expectations and reality], we may face a situation worse than when we were under sanctions.”

Hardliners are well prepared to control public opinion in the wake of the nuclear deal. They will likely refrain from congratulating Rouhani and the negotiating team for signing the agreement, instead focusing on its “irrelevance” to economic improvement — even at the risk of exacerbating public disappointment if the people do not see tangible change in their living conditions.

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2015/07/16/the_nuclear_deal_weakens_irans_moderates_111324.html


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When President Obama called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday to discuss the nuclear deal with Iran, the American president offered the Israeli leader, who had just deemed the agreement a “historic mistake,” a consolation prize: a fattening of the already generous military aid package the United States gives Israel…

But, as in previous talks with Mr. Obama, Mr. Netanyahu refused to engage in such talk “at this juncture,” the officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to detail the private discussions. And on Tuesday, as administration officials fanned out to make the case for the Iran agreement, one aide suggested in a phone call to Jewish and pro-Israel groups that Mr. Netanyahu had rebuffed their overtures because he believes accepting them now would be tantamount to blessing the nuclear deal, say people involved in the call who did not want to be quoted by name in describing it…

“The idea that somehow Israel would be compensated for this deal in the way the Gulf states would be is rejected by this prime minister as signaling that he is somehow silently acquiescing to it,” said David Makovsky, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “The negative optic would be, he is being bought off from his principled opposition. He sees any package now as muddying what he sees as the moral clarity of his objection.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/16/world/middleeast/us-offers-to-help-israel-bolster-defenses-yet-nuclear-deal-leaves-ally-uneasy.html?_r=0


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[T]he agreement will end up unfreezing around $150 billion in assets to a regime that has neglected its own domestic economy so it could prop up a Syrian dictator at war with his own citizens — to the tune of billions of dollars. The initial reaction from America’s traditional Middle Eastern allies has been a combination of shock and horror. Just as they see an Iran more brazen than ever, Obama is talking about the possibility of a new relationship with their archenemy…

But there’s no ignoring that the deal also leaves most of Iran’s nuclear infrastructure in place. After 10 years, Iran can enrich as much uranium as it likes. After 15 years it can begin enrichment at the facility it hid from the world, built into a mountain near Qom. What message does it send to the rest of the world that a country that built up an industrial-scale nuclear program (and stonewalled the International Atomic Energy Agency in the process) will be allowed to keep it in exchange for allowing the enhanced monitoring and inspections it previously agreed to and then reneged on 12 years earlier? It doesn’t seem like a solid foundation for Obama’s long-held dream for a world free of nuclear weapons…

Maybe the real benefit, at least from Obama’s perspective, is that the nuclear deal will pave the way for America’s full exit from the Middle East. After more than a decade of war and nation-building, the region is less stable and more dangerous than it was on 9/11. The Atlantic’s Peter Beinart, who supports the deal, says what its critics are really doing is “blaming Obama for the fact that the United States is not omnipotent.” Perhaps we have reached the limits of what American leadership can do in that part of the world. But if that’s true, Obama should have the decency to level with us about it. This deal is not an affirmation of American leadership. It’s a recognition of American exhaustion.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-07-14/iran-deal-is-obama-s-middle-east-exit-strategy


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On its very first page the document says the the deal “will mark a fundamental shift” in how we approach Iran and its nuclear program. You betcha; that’s one true line in the document. Once upon a time, faced with an implacable enemy, Ronald Reagan said we would do what Truman and Kennedy had done: persevere until we had won, until there was a fundamental shift in Soviet conduct or an end to the Soviet Union. Obama is instead throwing in the towel: The fundamental shift in behavior comes from the United States, not Iran. The Islamic Republic remains an implacable enemy, holding hostages, supporting terror, organizing “Death to America” marches even as its negotiators sat in Vienna and Lausanne smiling across the table at John Kerry.

Of course Obama has a theory: The main problems in world politics come from American militarism, aggression, bullying, and the like, and if we open our “clenched fists” to embrace Iran, it will respond in kind. We’ve seen the results of such policies in Russia and North Korea, and most recently in Cuba. In fact Obama’s Iran deal is based on his “Cuba model”: Hand a lifeline to a regime in deep economic trouble and ignore the population of the country and their quest for human rights and decent government. Call it a historic achievement, and above all don’t bargain hard for recompense. For, you see, in these openings to Iran and Cuba we are only righting the historical wrongs America has committed and for which we need to apologize.

People who do not live in and bicycle around in Lausanne or Vienna, but rather try to survive in Israel and the Persian Gulf countries, understand all of this. Iran has won a great victory: A weak country has outmaneuvered and outnegotiated the United States and the EU. Kerry and Iranian foreign minister Mohammad Javad Zarif will probably share a Nobel Peace Prize, which is disgraceful, but Zarif does deserve recognition for producing a far better deal for Iran than he had any right to expect. He owes a huge debt of gratitude to Barack Obama and his view of the world. For the rest of us, the rise of Iran means great danger ahead.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421223/iran-nuclear-agreement-john-kerry-mohammad-javad-zarif


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If you think the United States just struck a poor nuclear deal with Iran, you’re right; but if that’s your key takeaway, you’re missing the point. Iran’s nuclear program was last on the list of the Obama administration’s priorities in talking to Tehran. The administration readily caved on Iran’s nukes because it viewed the matter only as a timely pretense for achieving other cherished aims. These were: (1) preventing an Israeli attack on Iran; (2) transforming the United States into a more forgiving, less imposing power; (3) establishing diplomacy as a great American good in itself; (4) making Iran into a great regional power; and (5), ensuring the legacies of the president and secretary of state as men of vision and peace…

The Iran negotiations became Obama’s magnum opus on the theme of listening. Americans listened to Iranians dictate terms, shoot down offers, insult the United States, and threaten allies. America has been humbled indeed.

But such humility is necessary if diplomacy is to be made into a nation-defining ethos. And if we could successfully negotiate with theocratic Iran, then surely Americans would see that diplomacy could conquer all. So, for the sake of proving this abstract principle, Obama foreclosed any non-diplomatic approach to Iran before a deal was reached. As he told Tom Friedman in April, “there is no formula, there is no option, to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon that will be more effective than the diplomatic initiative and framework that we put forward — and that’s demonstrable.” So declared, so demonstrated.


https://www.commentarymagazine.com/2015/07/15/iran-nuclear-deal-not-about-nukes/


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Obama sees himself as Reagan come again. His disdain for American power, his naïveté, and his incompetence suggest Jimmy Carter as the obvious point of comparison. But Lyndon Johnson is his true soulmate. Johnson like Obama burned to use the federal government to remake the country — but unlike Obama, LBJ succeeded in changing American society with the nation’s support. Unfortunately for Obama, he lacks Johnson’s skill with Congress and his feel for the trajectory of American history. And it’s no longer 1964.

But Obama will be remembered ultimately for the Iran treaty, as Johnson is remembered for Vietnam. Like Johnson, Obama is wrapped in a warm blanket of advisers who flatter his earnest, high-school views of world politics. Like Johnson, he lives in his own delusional world in which he’s commander-in-chief not merely of the military but of the whole blessed nation. Like Johnson, he has been destroyed by the arrogance of power; and his blindness has endangered America. Unlike Johnson, he was never big enough for the job in the first place.

Iran’s Supreme Leader reeks of blood. Obama’s treaty reeks of disgrace and surrender. Vietnam did disastrous damage to America’s military, its intelligence services, and its international standing — damage compounded by Richard Nixon’s crookery and Jimmy Carter’s entire presidency. It took Ronald Reagan to repair the wreckage. Will there be a Reagan to clean up after Obama?


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421235/iran-obamas-vietnam


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4923  Other / Politics & Society / Re: “God bless Planned Parenthood” – PP Uses Abortions to Sell Baby Parts on: July 17, 2015, 03:08:33 AM
This interested me so I decided to look a tad bit deeper into the issue and as it turns out it is fake (or is said to be) what is your reaction to this article?
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/16/what_the_planned_parenthood_hoax_really_proves_right_wing_extremists_have_no_qualms_about_destroying_peoples_lives/


The author of the video said more videos are coming. It was an almost 3 year deep undercover infiltration. Salon.com is a pro pp and pro abortion lef twing website. It is logical they would say it is propaganda. I have posted pp's response citing ONLY left wing pro abortion "media" saying it is a fake scandal a couple of posts earlier (the big pinkish image).

If you are courageous enough you can go through the 2+ hrs of the unedited video and you make up mind yourself. Not from me. Not from salon.com

Deal?

4924  Other / Politics & Society / Re: To the greeks.. on: July 17, 2015, 02:32:06 AM






Then death by drawing it will be. Their future was written on their flag all along. Thank GOD for pointing out this amazing prophecy to us...



4925  Other / Politics & Society / Re: “The Lord Has Spoken To Me And Said You Must Die For Your Sins”… on: July 17, 2015, 02:21:36 AM
ITT: Butthurt Christian closet-fags whining because other people get to enjoy really sweet gay sex while OP has to hide his sexuality and crysturbate in the closet.


As long as I am not on your ignore list anymore. We cool?

 Grin Cheesy Grin


4926  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Iran deal in 26 seconds on: July 17, 2015, 02:20:02 AM
Your bias is glaring.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

How about showing someone close to the deal talking about it? Like the Secretary of Energy, Ernest Moniz

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/energy-secretary-moniz-on-iran-deal-details-485133379890

I don't even like Rachel Maddow, but your link is a joke.
Wilikon is one of the worst, dumbest fundamentalist fuck posters on this forum. I have him on ignore after trying to engage him many times in rational discussion.




4927  Other / Politics & Society / Re: “God bless Planned Parenthood” – PP Uses Abortions to Sell Baby Parts on: July 17, 2015, 02:17:46 AM
The crazier part that I saw was that they were selling these body parts on the clear net. But yeah, this is absolutely sick.


People are and will defend this sickness as "progress". That tells you all you need to know about them too.


4928  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Iran deal in 26 seconds on: July 17, 2015, 02:15:28 AM
Your bias is glaring.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

How about showing someone close to the deal talking about it? Like the Secretary of Energy, Ernest Moniz

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/energy-secretary-moniz-on-iran-deal-details-485133379890

I don't even like Rachel Maddow, but your link is a joke.


The deal is a joke.


4929  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CHATTANOOGA SHOOTING: 4 MARINES KILLED in GUN FREE ZONE on: July 17, 2015, 02:08:44 AM



Donald Trump was unfortunately proven right on another one of his top issues Thursday: "gun free zones" at military bases.

Indications that Thursday's shooting at two military bases in Chattanooga, Tenn., occurred at or near "gun free zones."

In an interview with the website AmmoLand.com, Trump decried the zones on military bases, suggesting that they left highly-trained gun operators without a weapon to fire at attackers, with the exception of military police.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-would-end-gun-free-zones-on-military-bases/article/2567907


4930  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CHATTANOOGA SHOOTING: 4 MARINES KILLED in GUN FREE ZONE on: July 17, 2015, 02:02:23 AM





4931  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CHATTANOOGA SHOOTING: 4 MARINES KILLED in GUN FREE ZONE on: July 17, 2015, 01:59:40 AM



Chattanooga Jihadist Mohammad Abdulazeez Kept a Blog – Wrote About Jihad






The first post was entitled “A Prison Called Dunya,” referring to the temporal world. In it, Abdulazeez uses the hypothetical example of a prisoner who is told he would be given a test that would either take him out of his earthly prison—or send him into a more restrictive environment.

“I would imagine that any sane person would devote their time to mastering the information on the study guide and stay patient with their studies, only giving time for the other things around to keep themselves focused on passing the exam,” Abdulazeez wrote. “They would do this because they know and have been told that they will be rewarded with pleasures that they have never seen.”

This life is that test, he wrote, “designed to separate the inhabitants of Paradise from the inhabitants of Hellfire.”

The second post is called “Understanding Islam: The Story of the Three Blind Men.” It suggests Abdulazeez felt his fellow Muslims had a “certain understanding of Islam and keep a tunnel vision of what we think Islam is.”


http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/07/16/read-chattanooga-shooter-s-blog.html


4932  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CHATTANOOGA SHOOTING: 4 MARINES KILLED in GUN FREE ZONE on: July 17, 2015, 01:54:49 AM


What else is there to add...





No!  Evil Jew Plot!  This is not Real Mohammed!   This is not Islam religion of peace and love!

Evil Jew plot with CIA dress like Islam to make Islam look bad!  All Bush fault!   But don't draw cartoon of this Mohammed he still name Mohammed!  All Jew Fault and they did 911 we all know that!

<<sarcasm>>

The bullshit levels on international forums targeted by Islamic sock puppets and paid disinformation agents is fucking ridiculous.





4933  Other / Politics & Society / Re: “The Lord Has Spoken To Me And Said You Must Die For Your Sins”… on: July 17, 2015, 01:48:14 AM
It's sad in this day and age when a buisness owner isn't allowed to refuse service, and if they do they get hit with a massive fine and death threats.


"But you see they brought all of this onto themselves... Just like women who are asking for it when wearing too much make up and a micro skirt in a city. Don't cry for them. Those bakers should be taxed for the air they breathe. Social services should take their children away too!!!!!

#lovewins"



Lips sealed Roll Eyes Lips sealed Roll Eyes Lips sealed

Yes. It is sad.



4934  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: July 17, 2015, 01:40:01 AM



Hillary Clinton sounds the alarm on meteorites





Hillary Clinton on Thursday called attention to a dire security threat: meteorites.

Speaking before a town hall in New Hampshire, the Democratic front-runner said experts should be mapping meteorites and asteroids “on a security basis,” noting the importance of scientific research and development in stimulating the U.S. economy.

“You know, back in the early ’90s, our country invested in mapping the human genome, and my husband was president when it finally was revealed. Money had been put in by both Republican and Democratic presidents and Congresses because we wanted to know more about what this meant. And in the years since, hundreds and thousands of jobs have been created and many millions of dollars have been generated for our economy,” Clinton said.



http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/hillary-clinton-security-threat-meteorites-asteroids-120244.html

4935  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CHATTANOOGA SHOOTING: 4 MARINES KILLED in GUN FREE ZONE on: July 17, 2015, 12:46:14 AM


What else is there to add...




4936  Other / Politics & Society / CHATTANOOGA SHOOTING: 4 MARINES KILLED in GUN FREE ZONE - Update: 5 killed on: July 16, 2015, 08:59:30 PM








Four Marines were killed today in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
The Marines were shot in a gun free zone.
Four Marines killed inside a military office.

It was a Gun-Free Zone–


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coKl9lSNjZI


4937  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Welcome to the terror of Wisconsin’s “John Doe” raids... on: July 16, 2015, 08:44:51 PM
Scott Walker is a crook, everyone in Wisconsin knows that. lol

He had a private network set up in the office so he could allow government workers to work on his election at taxpayer expense. That dropout isn't qualified to be assistant dog catcher much less president. Although we all have popcorn ready to watch him implode as the hard questions start. It's going to be comedy gold. 

Are you sadden by this outcome?


4938  Other / Politics & Society / Re: “God bless Planned Parenthood” – PP Uses Abortions to Sell Baby Parts on: July 16, 2015, 08:41:54 PM
"Planned Parenthood keeps insisting that the video is “heavily edited,” but the group released the entire 2-hour, 42-minute conversation nearly simultaneously. The transcript has been available almost as long"

That is the silliest thing. None of her conversation that is upsetting people is edited at all.


The full transcript is even available. It is not about justice or the law or the health of the mother. This is about selling baby body parts.

More undercover videos to come. I wonder if the DOJ will cease the video as "evidence" and lock them up forever... Nah. Impossible. But I am sure pp is thinking about their options to stop the bleeding. Their bleeding that is. Not the bleeding from the baby body parts they sale...

 Sad


From my point of view, and everything I've read recently. I strongly believe Obama knew, and/or could not care less. So I don't see them being punished right now. In the end they will be though...




In the Age of Obama, Some Lives Matter More than Others



Left-wing Democrats do not respect life. Whether one of them is nonchalantly talking about “crushing” the life from another human being over wine, or completely ignoring the crushed life of someone killed by an illegal immigrant, those lives can be easily written off if they are deemed inconvenient.

Barack Obama is easily the most anti-life president we have ever had, as his enthusiasm for abortion and lack of interest in the deaths of Americans like Kate Steinle reveal. He has yet to weigh in on the sickening undercover video of a Planned Parenthood director cheerfully discussing the harvesting and selling of aborted baby parts — and he likely won’t. Abortion is one of this president’s pet issues and his media toadies will voluntarily help mitigate any damage the video does to their cause either by ignoring it or by attempting to discredit it. He has also been deafeningly silent on the death of Steinle at the hands of an illegal immigrant in a sanctuary city.

Left-wing activists like to repeat the slogan “Black Lives Matter” and they get angry when you correct them by saying, “No — ALL Lives Matter.”

Because clearly —  to the left – some lives do not matter:

The over 58,000,000 unborn lives that have been aborted in the United States since Roe v. Wade became law.

The 121+ Americans who were murdered by illegal-immigrant criminals the Obama administration set free between 2010 and 2014.

The hundreds of thousands of victims of black-on-white violence per year.

The hundreds of thousands of victims of black-on-black violence per year.

The thousands of American service members who have been killed overseas since Barack Obama became president.


http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/07/15/in-the-age-of-obama-some-lives-matter-more-than-others/



4939  Other / Politics & Society / Re: “God bless Planned Parenthood” – PP Uses Abortions to Sell Baby Parts on: July 16, 2015, 07:47:04 PM
"Planned Parenthood keeps insisting that the video is “heavily edited,” but the group released the entire 2-hour, 42-minute conversation nearly simultaneously. The transcript has been available almost as long"

That is the silliest thing. None of her conversation that is upsetting people is edited at all.


The full transcript is even available. It is not about justice or the law or the health of the mother. This is about selling baby body parts.

More undercover videos to come. I wonder if the DOJ will cease the video as "evidence" and lock them up forever... Nah. Impossible. But I am sure pp is thinking about their options to stop the bleeding. Their bleeding that is. Not the bleeding from the baby body parts they sale...


 Sad


4940  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Welcome to the terror of Wisconsin’s “John Doe” raids... on: July 16, 2015, 07:40:30 PM



Wisconsin Supreme Court: the partisan John Doe investigation was unsupported in reason or law


The long unraveling of the so-called “John Doe II investigation” convened by partisan district attorneys in Wisconsin is now complete. This case was about using vague campaign-finance rules to intimidate conservative groups and smear Republican officials, including Gov. Scott Walker. No charges were filed in the John Doe II investigation and it was halted by both the state and federal courts.

Today, the Wisconsin Supreme Court releases its final disposition in the case:


To be clear, this conclusion ends the John Doe investigation because the special prosecutor’s legal theory is unsupported in either reason or law.  Consequently, the investigation is closed.  Consistent with our decision and the order entered by Reserve Judge Peterson, we order that the special prosecutor and the district attorneys involved in this investigation must cease all activities related to the investigation, return all property seized in the investigation from any individual or organization, and permanently destroy all copies of information and other materials obtained through the investigation.  All Unnamed Movants are relieved of any duty to cooperate further with the investigation.

The theory of the prosecutor’s case was that conservative groups had illegally coordinated with candidates for office by means of issue advocacy. Applying well-settled principles of election law, the Wisconsin high court holds that this goes too far because “[d]iscussion of issues cannot be suppressed simply because the issues may also be pertinent in an election.” The courts have long treated express advocacy—that is, speech directly supporting a candidate for election—as wholly separate from issue advocacy—that is, speech about political issues. The court explains that, insofar as the Wisconsin statute purports to regulate issue advocacy the way that it does express advocacy, it is overbroad and vague under both the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and Wisconsin’s own Article 1, Section 3.

The court did not spare the feelings of the special prosecutor. As my pal @Popehat noted, “unsupported in reason” is a particularly harsh thing to say. The court did not stop there:

The special prosecutor has disregarded the vital principle that in our nation and our state political speech is a fundamental right and is afforded the highest level of protection.  The special prosecutor’s theories, rather than “assur[ing] [the] unfettered interchange of ideas for the bringing about of political and social changes desired by the people,” Roth, 354 U.S. at 484, instead would assure that such political speech will be investigated with paramilitary-style home invasions conducted in the pre-dawn hours and then prosecuted and punished.  In short, the special prosecutor completely ignores the command that, when seeking to regulate issue advocacy groups, such regulation must be done with “narrow specificity.”  Barland II, 751 F.3d at 811 (quotations omitted).


The Court’s conclusion lauds the targeted individuals and groups for fighting back against the investigation:

Our lengthy discussion of these three cases can be distilled into a few simple, but important, points.  It is utterly clear that the special prosecutor has employed theories of law that do not exist in order to investigate citizens who were wholly innocent of any wrongdoing.   In other words, the special prosecutor was the instigator of a “perfect storm” of wrongs that was visited upon the innocent Unnamed Movants and those who dared to associate with them.  It is fortunate, indeed, for every other citizen of this great State who is interested in the protection of fundamental liberties that the special prosecutor chose as his targets innocent citizens who had both the will and the means to fight the unlimited resources of an unjust prosecution.  Further, these brave individuals played a crucial role in presenting this court with an opportunity to re-endorse its commitment to upholding the fundamental right of each and every citizen to engage in lawful political activity and to do so free from the fear of the tyrannical retribution of arbitrary or capricious governmental prosecution.  Let one point be clear: our conclusion today ends this unconstitutional John Doe investigation.


This is extraordinarily firm language about the disposition of these cases. Moreover, the Wisconsin court’s use of the state’s constitution to invalidate the investigation forecloses additional appeal to the federal courts for the partisan district attorneys, despite what they may be claiming. The Wisconsin Supreme Court gets the last say on what the state’s constitution requires. They did so here, making federal intervention moot.

This decision does not punish the instigators of the John Doe II investigation, beyond tanking their reputations for pursuing what a concurring justice calls “a fishing expedition into the lives, work, and thoughts of countless citizens.” A federal civil rights lawsuit was shut down by the 7th Circuit last year on the grounds that it was premature to involve the federal courts before the state courts had a chance to resolve the claims. That lawsuit, or one like it, may be revived. A state action for civil damages is also a possibility.


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