as of date $307 is where its at $1000 before christmas guaranteed sell at $1000 massive profits ahead confirmed histri is povata learn from you mistakes it is inevitable
You can buy my btcs for 600/coin !!!! INSTANT 400 $ PROFIT TILL CHRISTMAS - GUARANTEED!!!!!
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Looks like I was wrong...
I'm now calling the top at 299, then crash to 213. Thanks for reading y'all!
Gonna blame all my losing shorts on you and hire a hitman after i sold my last organs to the guy at the backalley ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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Exponential ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif)
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Don't worry, within a few days this thing will come crashing down 10x harder than it went up.
Atleast one bear fellow with a nice comment do you think finally double digits in august? ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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Since 285 and want to commit suicide now. which number should i call?
Please help me and all other bears!!!!!
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no it is not common and i actually made a mistake. it is already illegal to have sex with each other.
incest was a pretty big thing in the german media 5 years or so ago because of a couple of siblings had an incestious child. the father was sent to jail and they went to the federal court which stated with a 7-1 vote that the criminalization of incest is constitutional.
there was a lot of discussion at that time but nothing happened until now it seems.
btw. i think it is mostly or only cases of siblings/parent+child not knowing each other and meeting later by coincidence or something like that.
cant imagine anything else without thinking that it counts as rape or abuse.
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i think here is a misunderstanding: legal in germany: family members having an incestious relationship (we are talking about adults not underage/pedo stuff) illegal in germany: if one of the two above mentioned are getting pregnant and get a child the crux of the law is that you can not ban or criminalize love. @willikon if you have time google homosexuality in nature (regarding animals not humans) ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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So? Do you even lift? If so explain why.
Your body and mind are the only things in your life that you can always train. The question is why would you not want to do it?
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Taking a shit load of euros, don't worry Torque..
Rather deposit € on exchange (arbitrage) and try to sell btc local there... after all Mascga said prices for btc are high (50€+ compere to actual rate) ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Wouldn't that involve selling in person via Local Bitcoins? I wouldn't want to show off big wads of cash in public while selling Bitcoins in Greece. Considering you can only make tiny daily ATM withdrawals anyone showing off cash will risk robbery. Desperate people often do things they normally wouldn't consider. more risk more reward... i think that is how they say it works. a crisis is always a chance for the good or bad. btw. i watched the ukip video from nigel and i think tsipras was rather thinking this: are you stupid? we dont want to leave the euro, we just want a real deal with debt relief.
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Seems we will wake up in a new europe tommorow
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Yes I saw this to, there is a guy that is putting 125 and 200btc sell walls 1 dollar above the current price.
Single digits soon you better sell your 500k worth of coins before you can only afford a pizza with it ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Why doesn't USA help Greece paying the debt? put your money where your mouth is, once again.
They are the ones that got the first hit from the Banksters back in 2008; remember Lehman Bros? They faced it by printing more money 'cause "Too Big To Fail". IMHO, they have every right to "advise politely" the IMF since they have a pretty big amount invested in there ( https://www.imf.org/external/np/sec/memdir/members.aspx). Don't forget; IMF was created NOT to "save" countries, but to "earn" money! They're an international bank! Failing to do so properly is... well... bad? Propaganda is king everywhere right now, I don't blame anyone that "got it" wrong. But if you're from Germany (or can speak German) please watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDbyMX3NHhcIt's not from the Greek television. It's the ARD, on the show "Monitor" on July 2nd 2015. Very good show and with some really important facts about the greece crisis. Although there are critical voices against the greece policies of frau merkel the majority of german news is pro austerity and rather supportive to a grexit in the case of a No.
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Bonds are different from banknotes. They are not real money. And the over-printing of the Euro banknotes is not the real reason why the currency lost its exchange value against the US Dollar. The Euro banknote market cap is increasing at a rate of around 6% per year, which is almost the same rate as that of the US Dollar. The reasons why it went down are: 1.Greek crisis 2. Strong dollar. The ECB is buying 50 billion € worth of government bonds and 10 billion € worth of securities each month from certain EU nations except greece and cyprus ( they have/had their own aid programme). The goal is to give corporations and end consumer new fresh money through (easy) credits. the 60 billion per month are very real and are one of the main reasons for the weak euro (besides the chaotic economical outlook of the eurozone). Btw. If you look at numbers greece had the same economical power then Hessen - one of the 16 german federate states. Saying greece alone is at fault for the euro crisis is just wrong.
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ECB is printing €60 billion per month, so it is a pocket change
Wrong. The ECB is printing €60 billion per year, and not per month. And only a small part of this is printed in Germany. Check this: https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/euro/circulation/html/index.en.htmlFor the month of May 2015, the ECB printed banknotes worth €5,474,705,800. Divided in to: €5 - 7,570,130 notes worth €37,850,650 €10 - 15,418,060 notes worth €154,180,560 €20 - 14,236,370 notes worth €284,727,440 €50 - 71,172,090 notes worth €3,558,604,250 €100-12,410,700 notes worth €1,241,069,600 €200-117,130 notes worth €23,426,800 €500-349,690 notes worth €174,846,500 http://www.wsj.com/articles/ecb-announces-stimulus-plan-1421931011You are halfwrong. 60 billion € per month for atleast a year. What do you think was the reason for the dramatic loss against the dollar and the 50% increase in stock prices?
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no, just no. its only 90 billion over 5 years - tbh. that is more or less just pocketchange for the german state. this here is about credibility and reliability of the EURO and the eurozone.
Do you think that €90 billion is a pocket change for Germany? Definitely not. Even for the United States, €90 billion would have been a significant amount of money. Do you know that the total German tax revenues are around €330 billion per year? If they lose €90 billion, then it will represent a black hole of 6% of their tax revenues, for a period of five years. This will wipe-out the German budget surplus, and will start a recession in Germany. 'just 90BILLION EUROS'. Are you kidding me? Exactly, it would create a black hole in their economy. A period of 5years or maybe more, the recession would hit Germany because of the loss of this huge sum of money. It is a big amount for all countries, man. if a country is not making good use of its surplus budget, it is indirectly loss for them too. please look at the german budget and tell me if there is deficit or surplus and since when. you could also add the rating of german solvency. germany could easily take 20 billion in debt every year for the next 5 years. my point still stands, a loss of 90 billion in greece would not damage germany on a important scale.
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According to this article: http://www.enikonomia.gr/timeliness/27275,Baroyfakhs-Exoyme-symfwnia-poy-8a-ypografame-amesa.html mr Varoufakis revealed to the Channel 4's journalist that "Right now we have a proposal that we'd accept right away". And continues: "since we announced the referendum, we've been bombarded with offers that if we had earlier, we'd never go for a referendum". So, it's basically a "means of pressure" in order to achieve a viable deal that won't ruin the country with more austerity measures and deliver the long awaited economic (and thus social) growth. Besides, it's very well known that EVEN A COUNTRY WANTED, they couldn't flee the Eurozone. It's not documented nor allowed by the initial treaty. So, no Grexit. If there's a "Yes" (unlikely) - it would mean more austerity measures, more recession and Greece will eventually be the worst place to live in the EU. If there's a "No" Tsipras will have an opportunity to talk on a fresh basis and get a better deal (backed up by the voters). What's significant though is the fact that many "everyday" people ask about bitcoin here. How they can buy it - how to use it, etc. People start to "get" it. That's the best part of this crisis. that is the gist of the story, but you are describing only one side of the medal. the other side is, if greece manage to get a good deal the eurozone will have to prepare for alot more greeces and especially this is the reason why the eurozone will fight really hard against a better deal for greece. dont forget irland,spain,italy and in the future even france - a bailout like with greece wont be possible there. /edit @end of germany if grexit no, just no. its only 90 billion over 5 years - tbh. that is more or less just pocketchange for the german state. this here is about credibility and reliability of the EURO and the eurozone.
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current status:
eurogroup talking in a videoconference at 7.00 pm CET about greece offer of a third bailout plan (2 years under the ESM with reconstruction of the national debt).
merkels answer: no negotiations with germany before the referendum.
/edit
interesting: after german news merkel was actually inclined to move the offer in favor of greece until tsipras called for a referendum.
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I came to know from Huffingpost that German Chancellor Angela Merkel will be responsible for the Greece exit from the Euro zone , I do not know how far it is true, since Germany is the euro monetary union’s largest economy and, arguably, its most powerful voice on the international stage. With one decision of Angela Merkel, Greece fate would be either start again for good or end.
you have to understand that this right now is a classic political fight. the german goverment is trying to increase the pressure to the maximum. i honestly dont think that either the germans/eurozone nor greece is ready for maximum pain right now. it will be a huge blow to the euro and the eu and i doubt that we will just recover easily from it.
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I thought you were all going to the moon after breaking all those important resistances and going long.
yet here you are: it's already indecision time after reaching only 266.
please buy.
staircase to the moon buy or gtfo now ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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