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4961  Other / Meta / Re: Show the exact time a trust rating was left on: March 27, 2015, 05:25:26 PM
I think that just showing the date isn't enough. Hours and minutes would be useful.

Can I ask you why do you want also to see the hours and minutes? In my personal opinion it is not necessary and obviously not of primary importance (but this is only my personal opinion).

Well, I saw a scam accusation thread earlier on, the accused got a negative trust rating before he got the chance to reply. But there's no record to prove this.

I dont understand, someone accused someone else and the guy that was accused got a negative trust rating but he couldnt reply in the post? It was deleted or what? Could you explain better
4962  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 27, 2015, 04:48:19 PM
Why do people need to know about god for salvation? i never understood that like if you are a good person it wont matter if you dont believe in God, thats just retarded

People can't be good enough.

God built the universe with perfection. Not one law of the universe fails. This is why you can do scientific experiments over and over. If you do them exactly the same, they produce exactly the same results.

The mistake that can't be perfected by mankind is love for God. It is the foundational, core law of the universe. The second is love for mankind. Even though one might be able to come back from making these core mistakes so that he doesn't make them anymore, once it is done, it is don. Time cannot be altered, at least not by anything that we have the ability to do.

Only God has the power to make the correction. He did it in Jesus God, who took the punishment that we would receive as a natural result of our mistake-making.

Since the foundational law of the universe is mankind's love for God, we need to understand that God exists so that we can attempt to love Him. Denying Him is denying our only source of salvation, since we can't save ourselves.

Smiley

Damn what a pile of bullshit you wrote, at this point you made it clear that is impossible to reason with you so im going to ignore you from now on, good luck.
4963  Economy / Gambling / Re: Take Part in giveaway, get $10 and 100% bonus to your deposit! on: March 27, 2015, 03:54:15 PM
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I think he meant the 10$, its kind of unclear, are they going to give you 10$ after you deposit and make 10 bets or how
4964  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 27, 2015, 03:51:43 PM


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Number 1 is wrong, "1. The Supernatural Does Not Exist," because the whole of nature is supernatural. In addition, simply because one decides that the supernatural doesn't exist, thereby ignoring it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Thus, God can exist.


Oh, "nature" is entirely "supernatural" now?

No.  It isn't.  Nature is natural specifically because it isn't supernatural.

You should've taken my earlier suggestion and just reduce all your vocabulary to one word, and just repeat that word over and over.  It really doesn't matter what that word is or what it means because you're just going to have it mean whatever you want it to mean.

You're going on ignore for a while.  You make my eyes bleed.  

You are finally starting to understand that the only understanding of why things exist, and the only proof for their existence, is the fact that they do exist. We have no other proof.

This means, that as far as our understanding goes, all of nature is supernatural. This points at the existence of God more than ever.

Smiley

Even Descartes would frown at what I just read(And he was wrong in his philosophy/for assuming that the mind is automatically metaphysical, but wont get into that). What you've said makes no sense, at all, you're claiming that something exists because you can see/hear/taste it with your five senses, all of which may be misleading you causing you to believe that these things exist when they don't(Your perception of things), matter itself might not even exist, so you cannot prove your own existence by just looking at something at saying it exists,(This is basic philosophy. ) Ever heard of Schizophrenia where those with it can see things that aren't really there? You should really look it up.
All proof for anything is based on the fact that the elements of that proof exist. So, if you attempt to prove that those elements of proof exist, you need other elements of proof to prove them. But what about those elements of proof? How far do you have to go before you get to some elements that are so foundational that they don't need proof of existence. So far, the only two things that we can possibly come up with are God and the supernatural.


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Wait actually no, let's go with what you said. So god created disease, he created deformities, he created all those negative things that are around in the world today(And to which you classify as "supernatural"), but you consider him a good god? Quite clearly that means he is an evil one. Thanks for proving yourself wrong BADecker, again.

God created many elements, all of them good, but some that could be manipulated into evil if someone had a mind to do such. God's enemy, the devil (a formerly good angel who corrupted himself), did exactly that. In his desire to create something, he created the only thing that was not created by God... destruction. That's why his name is Destroyer in the Revelation in the Bible.

Smiley

Not true. Things that hinder another living organism such as a disease, has no "good" elements to it, and god created that disease as you say, which is why your god is an evil god. Innocent children, people, die from diseases and ailments everyday, you said it yourself, god created everything right? So then he created these diseases that lead to the deaths of innocent millions every year. What a good god you have (sarcasm).

I could agree with you that disease has no good (but it might have some good that we are not aware of).

Since I didn't say that God created disease, why are you trying to say that I essentially said that God is evil? (Thank you for agreeing with me that God exists. People need to know that God exists so that they have reason to seek Him for their salvation.)

Smiley

Why do people need to know about god for salvation? i never understood that like if you are a good person it wont matter if you dont believe in God, thats just retarded
4965  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 26, 2015, 12:40:07 PM
Unfortunately badecker will still believe in the bible and probably just ignore my last point
4966  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin Video Casino releases its android app as open source on: March 26, 2015, 06:32:18 AM
Our awesome android app is now open source! Games include Video Poker, Blackjack, Dice and Slots.
 
You can access the code here: https://bitbucket.org/tbak/bitcoinvideocasino_android/overview

Let us know what you think. Smiley This is the only Bitcoin gaming app out there that's open source.

Dude your app is not awesome.  I imported the account I sent money to and now the account has been erased or altered and my deposit is gone.  I emailed you and sent a p.m.  I was hoping to trty you out but no one seems to want to get back to me tonight.  I just want the money I deposited to show up or just refund it to me.  Either way, I am too tired to track you down and the deposit was nominal but it sure4 would be nice to be able to deposit without such annoying issues and it wouyld be even nicer to get a prompt response.  Satoshibet gets back to you immediately and rectifies the problem.  Was hoping for the same, bvut it seems as if that will not be forthcoming.  Also, your site give you no option to sign it.  WTF?  Why take the password and username if you cannot input it.  I mean, it might be there amis all that mumbo jumbo you got there but IU could not find it.  Please respond.

Hi,

We responded to your email within 3 hours. I don't think that is an unreasonable amount of time for an email response.

We are a very small team here. We are unfortunately not able to monitor emails 24/7. We have considered hiring people to handle user emails, but this quickly becomes a security issue.

You didnt even respond to his problem, did you fix it or not
4967  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 26, 2015, 06:29:06 AM
So, if I believe in God and go to heaven will there be tight, sexy poontang with big tits for me to plow for all eternity? Oh and Crown Royal? If the answer's yes then count me in.

Go to hell instead, you'll get kinkier sex with succubi there according to Christian logic Wink

Look around and you can find people of all ages who are not that interested in sex. Some of these are unhealthy. Others are simply interested in other things. They get pleasure from other things. They may be few in number, but they are among us. The point? For our benefit and His, God designed sex to be pleasurable. He could have done it other ways. He could have made other things more pleasurable than sex.

We don't know what we will be in Heaven. My guess (AND THIS IS ONLY GUESS) is that we will have a form in the physics of Heaven that will make us similar in many ways to it, as we are now to the physics of this universe. In other words, I think we will have a body something like this one, but without any weakness whatsoever.

Will there be sex in Heaven? We don't know. The thing that there won't be is marrying and giving in marriage. There will be joy - I dare say, pleasure. It will be better than any pleasure we experience here in this universe. But, like as some of the people here enjoy other things more than sex, perhaps the things that we all enjoy there will have nothing to do with sex. But who cares? The big point is, we will have more joy, and even pleasure, than we could ever experience here, even in the best of sex.

The reason that Jesus was willing to die on the cross for the sins and mistakes of the whole world is, the joys He receives in Heaven for doing it are so much greater than the pains of punishment and death for the whole world, that there is great benefit for Him in doing it. In fact, while He wants all people to be saved for Heaven, the pleasures of Heaven make it worth it to let the ones go who simply won't allow themselves to be saved.

You might laugh at this, but think hard, 'cause if you don't make it, the greater loss won't be sitting in the fire of Hell for eternity. The greater loss will be missing out on the joys of Heaven for eternity.

Smiley

But did you realize that everything you say are guesses? Because you dont provide any phisical evidence. Why do you think in history class we dont learn the history of god? Or jesus? Because there is no history at all because they dont exist.

If god exists why would he decieve us giving us this logic thoughts and rationality
4968  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 25, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
The only way that my info at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 doesn't prove the existence of God, is a future thing. When this universe is gone, it won't be remembered or brought to mind by anybody, not even God (although He could dredge it up if He really wanted). That's the only way my stuff won't be evidence that proves the existence of God.

We don't have to wait that long. We can just use some simple level 1 beginners logic and "your stuff" evaporates into non-proof.


The part about not having to wait that long is true. You will die within a short hundred years. The next thing you will see is Jesus calling you out of the grave (even if you are cremated). Then you will take your place in the afterlife, and my link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 will have been proven true with finality... all in short order... probably less than your 100-year lifetime.

Smiley



We are all praying you can pull through this BADecker.
Remember we are on your side. We are here to help you.


I have to apologize on that one. I haven't been praying enough for you.

Smiley


Praying obviously doesnt work, a lot of people pray for cancer to have a cure and it doesnt so i dont know what you are talking about
4969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: March 25, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
Short term,maybe. It is possible to do well with martingale over a short number of trades.
Long term, account destruction. Eventually, you will hit a losing streak that will wipe you out. It may happen in the first week, or it may take a few months. Rest assured, it will happen. It is a mathematical certainty.


Do people resist so long with martingale, months? Honestly ive never survived more than 1 day using it
4970  Economy / Gambling / Re: Vote for the best Bitcoin Dice graphic! on: March 24, 2015, 08:00:22 AM
I thought the vote was for 'Best Dice graphic'

Many are voting for the one they like best. Well, that is not a problem, but it really seems funny. And adding scratchaticket to the list, lol.


Yes thats exactly what i said too, people is just voting for the casino they like, scratchticket is not the worst did you notice 999dice? Anyways seeing how things are going primedice will win surely
4971  Economy / Gambling / Re: [WARNING] A personal warning to you all. on: March 23, 2015, 04:27:03 PM
Honestly i fell like dice is only for addicts or people who think they are going to get rich because whats the fun of dice? Bet low or high all the time, thats no fun unless you seek the adrenaline but for me fun gambling games are poker or blackjack, of course you want to make money there too but at least there is a strategy some skill and it is fun to play even when you lose, when you lose at dice its not fun, at all..
4972  Economy / Gambling / Re: Has anyone here ever made money gambling with BTC? on: March 23, 2015, 02:10:36 PM
Yes , its about luck .. I started from 20bucks did 5 5 5 succes all , took 3 - 4 days , i had lot luck , i get to 1800$ from 20 bucks only .
but to bad , theres human additcion that called , I WANT MORE nevermind how much you got .. So i lost them all
but i trying now to get better and make some bitcoins..
Now i got : 0.00017516 , its someone nice donated me

but from those reasons , i learned to i needed to have stop in life and all this gambling , my tought procces was about to make money from it , then i realised its all about luck and fail , and its for fun either , But still 1800$ lost , its not that i lost 1800$ , i lost 20$ , but still hard to believe that i could save them
By the way am sorry for my english , try to understand guys !!

What the hell, 1800$ from 20 bucks is 90x your bet, about 1% chance of doing that. Congrats man, but think about it as only 20$ lost, not 1800$ lost, because you only put in 20$. You should have pulled out at 1800 tho...

yes oc i should pulled out , but its also gave me a lesson to life Smiley..
thanks for comment man.
Try to get some friends here, bitcoin isn't just about gambling. Some sites have a good chat box. This will help you not be depressed, also remember try to block the 1800 out of your mind, you will only get depressed when you think about it.

Bitcoin is not just about gambling but it seems like almost everyone is gambling, just look at all the posts that are in the gambling section. I guess it has to do with bitcoins being really easy and fast to transfer and to get from faucets since you can bet really low amounts
4973  Economy / Gambling / Re: Vote for the best Bitcoin Dice graphic! on: March 23, 2015, 01:52:52 PM
999dice has the best graphics definitely hahaha, no, seriously rollin has a cool design and i personally believe that primedice design is pretty monotone, its simple and clear but for me is a bit meh.
4974  Economy / Gambling / Re: [New] Battleship Game at CoinXerox - Provably Fair AI on: March 19, 2015, 12:06:29 PM
On my end - 404: Not Found

The Battleship game has been suspended for a while. We have to make a fix. Sorry


Its just a fix or are you planning on adding something new?
4975  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 19, 2015, 10:53:23 AM

Doesn't talk about God at all. Even if the times are correct here (we don't know that they are because laws of physics of the distant past may have been different), this only suggests that God did it differently than the religions say.


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This author, himself, agrees that God exists when he says at the bottom of http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/outro.html:
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One day, perhaps, we’ll all be free of conditioned thinking and learn to rely on observable and testable evidence when examining religious claims. One day, perhaps, we can all peacefully coexist. Whatever force might be watching us now probably realizes that the majority of us are currently incapable of achieving these goals. If this being is observing our planet during a search for an enlightened race that’s ready for the deepest secrets of the universe, it should probably try us again later.


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While the Big Bang has not been proven to absolutely have not happened, the current descriptions and times that modern science applies to Big Bang happenings, have been shown to be wrong by electric cosmos information. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.


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Science and astronomy have made tremendous strides in knowledge about the universe over the last hundred years. Most of the knowledge is a hodge podge of pasting new findings into old. This process has turned the whole understanding of astronomy and cosmology into a complete mess, even though astronomers are ashamed to admit it... ashamed that they could have been so bold as to believe all those silly cosmology assertions of former astronomers and cosmologists. The evidence for this is found at http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm and the pages following. Follow the thinking in Internet searches for "electric cosmos," and you will see how it is gradually replacing current popular understandings about the universe, simply because it makes way more sense.


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You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

You can keep on setting yourself against God for awhile, by believing that He doesn't exist. Yet, some of the most important and basic evidences that prove God exists are found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Smiley


Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

There are no proofs against God in the common methods for finding evidence that proves something. The evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are scientific evidences that scientists use everyday to prove aspects of nature and the universe around us. These evidences also prove the existence of God.

The religion of atheism has become strong these days. And I don't understand why. Why are people who are out to find the truth (or so they say) so adamantly against one of the basic truths of the universe, that God exists? Accepting the fact of the existence God doesn't hurt them at all. They can still go on being good (or bad, in some cases) scientists.

Personally, I think it is a political ploy, pushed by the super rich, to mix up the common people, so that they can control the world more easily.

Smiley


Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html


You cant find any more solid proof against Biblical God than that, until you prove God exists with phisical evidences.
4976  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 19, 2015, 09:55:29 AM

Doesn't talk about God at all. Even if the times are correct here (we don't know that they are because laws of physics of the distant past may have been different), this only suggests that God did it differently than the religions say.


Quote

This author, himself, agrees that God exists when he says at the bottom of http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/outro.html:
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One day, perhaps, we’ll all be free of conditioned thinking and learn to rely on observable and testable evidence when examining religious claims. One day, perhaps, we can all peacefully coexist. Whatever force might be watching us now probably realizes that the majority of us are currently incapable of achieving these goals. If this being is observing our planet during a search for an enlightened race that’s ready for the deepest secrets of the universe, it should probably try us again later.


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While the Big Bang has not been proven to absolutely have not happened, the current descriptions and times that modern science applies to Big Bang happenings, have been shown to be wrong by electric cosmos information. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.


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Science and astronomy have made tremendous strides in knowledge about the universe over the last hundred years. Most of the knowledge is a hodge podge of pasting new findings into old. This process has turned the whole understanding of astronomy and cosmology into a complete mess, even though astronomers are ashamed to admit it... ashamed that they could have been so bold as to believe all those silly cosmology assertions of former astronomers and cosmologists. The evidence for this is found at http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm and the pages following. Follow the thinking in Internet searches for "electric cosmos," and you will see how it is gradually replacing current popular understandings about the universe, simply because it makes way more sense.


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You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

You can keep on setting yourself against God for awhile, by believing that He doesn't exist. Yet, some of the most important and basic evidences that prove God exists are found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Smiley


Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god
4977  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 19, 2015, 09:25:53 AM
BADdecker has been brainwashed since he was born.  There is no hope for him.

You could put the proof in front of his face and he will deny it.  His entire existence would become worthless if he admitted the truth. 

He will die ignorant.  We have to accept this.

Except that the evidence at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 which proves that God exists is being proven by scientists using the scientific method, continuously, on a daily basis, even though they don't express it this way.

Why would anyone think that God doesn't exist since all the evidence of the whole universe proves that He does? The above link shows the proof.

Smiley


Or except that 95% of scientists say that god does not exist with thousands of proofs of how old is the earth or the evolution theory and many many others.

Even if 95% of the scientists say that it is fact, they don't really know that it is fact. Why not? Because they base virtually all their findings of everything on the idea that the operations of the universe were always, basically the same as they are today.

The truth is that they don't know that physics laws don't change and haven't been changing throughout time. In fact, if you Google for it, you can find that we see variations in physics constants year by year right now.

In addition, there are many, many variables that could have happened over time that could easily throw any reasons for any distant-past statements off.

The clincher is in the actual papers that the scientists write. Even if they want God to not exist with all their hearts, they still write most of their stuff as theories. Why? Because they can't prove much of anything that isn't sitting right in front of them, so to speak.

One other point. There are many scientists who believe in the existence of God, but only say it quietly, because they would lose their positions in the scientific labs or universities if they let it be known in a big way. This shows that ideas against the existence of God are based in politics and big money.


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Why would anyone accept your shitty "evidence" and not accept the other thousands of evidences provided by scientists?

Why? Several reasons. One is the previous stuff I wrote directly above.

Another is that the scientific evidences don't show anything about the existence of God except that He does exist.

Another is that my evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 can be proven out even by a novice scientist who has even a small ability to use logic.

This makes the thing that you are really saying to be that you don't really care about what the truth is. You are simply going to believe whatever you are going to believe, even if the proof to the opposite jumps right up and bites you in the left eye. Further evidence that you are doing this is that you don't have any explanation evidence that you can spell out like I have spelled mine out.

Sorry, bud. You just ain't got it.

Smiley

If I say something doesn’t have a cause, it doesn’t have a cause.
I say the universe doesn’t have a cause.
Therefore, the universe doesn’t have a cause.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

You hang onto that thought. If you are going to believe that way, do it with your strength.

All of science looks to the idea of cause and effect. There is a cause for everything. Causes are simply effects of other causes. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 shows how cause and effect helps prove that God exists.

Smiley


Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god
4978  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 19, 2015, 09:24:06 AM
you have to have some faith in God to know that God exists


That makes absolutly no sense, its called a delusion
4979  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 19, 2015, 09:04:53 AM
BADdecker has been brainwashed since he was born.  There is no hope for him.

You could put the proof in front of his face and he will deny it.  His entire existence would become worthless if he admitted the truth. 

He will die ignorant.  We have to accept this.

Except that the evidence at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 which proves that God exists is being proven by scientists using the scientific method, continuously, on a daily basis, even though they don't express it this way.

Why would anyone think that God doesn't exist since all the evidence of the whole universe proves that He does? The above link shows the proof.

Smiley


Or except that 95% of scientists say that god does not exist with thousands of proofs of how old is the earth or the evolution theory and many many others.

Even if 95% of the scientists say that it is fact, they don't really know that it is fact. Why not? Because they base virtually all their findings of everything on the idea that the operations of the universe were always, basically the same as they are today.

The truth is that they don't know that physics laws don't change and haven't been changing throughout time. In fact, if you Google for it, you can find that we see variations in physics constants year by year right now.

In addition, there are many, many variables that could have happened over time that could easily throw any reasons for any distant-past statements off.

The clincher is in the actual papers that the scientists write. Even if they want God to not exist with all their hearts, they still write most of their stuff as theories. Why? Because they can't prove much of anything that isn't sitting right in front of them, so to speak.

One other point. There are many scientists who believe in the existence of God, but only say it quietly, because they would lose their positions in the scientific labs or universities if they let it be known in a big way. This shows that ideas against the existence of God are based in politics and big money.


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Why would anyone accept your shitty "evidence" and not accept the other thousands of evidences provided by scientists?

Why? Several reasons. One is the previous stuff I wrote directly above.

Another is that the scientific evidences don't show anything about the existence of God except that He does exist.

Another is that my evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 can be proven out even by a novice scientist who has even a small ability to use logic.

This makes the thing that you are really saying to be that you don't really care about what the truth is. You are simply going to believe whatever you are going to believe, even if the proof to the opposite jumps right up and bites you in the left eye. Further evidence that you are doing this is that you don't have any explanation evidence that you can spell out like I have spelled mine out.

Sorry, bud. You just ain't got it.

Smiley

If I say something doesn’t have a cause, it doesn’t have a cause.
I say the universe doesn’t have a cause.
Therefore, the universe doesn’t have a cause.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.
4980  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 18, 2015, 02:04:26 PM
There is no scientific evidence indicating that God exists. We all know that. For example:

God has never left any physical evidence of his existence on earth.

God has never spoken to modern man, for example by taking over all the television stations and broadcasting a rational message to everyone.

If we had scientific proof of God's existence, we would talk about the "science of God" rather than "faith in God".
If we had scientific proof of God's existence, the study of God would be a scientific endeavor rather than a theological one.

If you believe in God, you have chosen to reject Allah, Vishnu, Budda, Waheguru and all of the thousands of other gods that other people worship today. It is quite likely that you rejected these other gods without ever looking into their religions or reading their books. You simply absorbed the dominant faith in your home or in the society you grew up in.

In the same way, the followers of all these other religions have chosen to reject God. You think their gods are imaginary, and they think your God is imaginary.

A rational person rejects all human gods equally, because all of them are equally imaginary. How do we know that they are imaginary? Simply imagine that one of them is real. If one of these thousands of gods were actually real, then his followers would be experiencing real, undeniable benefits. These benefits would be obvious to everyone. The followers of a true god would pray, and their prayers would be answered. The followers of a true god would therefore live longer, have fewer diseases, have lots more money, etc. There would be thousands of statistical markers surrounding the followers of a true god.

Everyone would notice all of these benefits, and they would gravitate toward this true god. And thus, over the course of several centuries, everyone would be aligned on the one true god. All the other false gods would have fallen by the wayside long ago, and there would be only one religion under the one true god.

When we look at our world today, we see nothing like that. There are two billion Christians AND there are more than one billion Muslims, and their religions are mutually exclusive. There are thousands of other religions. When you analyse any of them, they all show a remarkable similarity -- there is zero evidence that any of these gods exist. That is how we know that they are all imaginary.

There is one thing wrong with what you say. Science is constantly using the evidences found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 to prove that God exists. The fact that many of the scientists try to ignore the existence of God, while at the same time proving that He exists, doesn't mean that the proof can be dispelled. It only means that some scientists don't want to acknowledge the truth that is staring them in the face.

On the other hand, there are many scientists who do recognize and accept the proven truth of God's existence.

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An example of science using the evidences there?



Christians believe that a creator is essential. Scientists believe that the idea of a "creator" is pure mythology, and that the complexity arose through natural processes like evolution. Who is right?

You can actually answer this question yourself with a little logic. Here are the two options:

The complexity of life and the universe did arise completely spontaneously and without any intelligence. Nature created all the complexity we see today.
An intelligent creator created all of the complexity that we see today because complexity requires intelligence to create it.
The advantage of the first option is that it is self-contained. The complexity arose spontaneously. No other explanation is required.
The problem with the second option is that it immediately creates an impossibility. If complexity cannot arise without intelligence, then we immediately must ask, "Who created the intelligent creator?" The creator could not spring into existence if complexity requires intelligence. Therefore, God is impossible.

In other words, by applying logic, we can prove that God is imaginary.
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