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4981  Other / Meta / Re: How to stop FUD campaigns with bought accounts? on: July 16, 2014, 09:28:14 PM
I think these examples are more than enough to demonstrate the behaviour which is occurring - at any rate, the OP included no evidence at all, but we all agree that it is happening. Anyhow, these people have zero effect on the success of the coins - popularity is achieved by smart marketing and the inherent value of the underlying technology, not hype men.

I'm not sure the original concern was even about the success of a coin.

It was more about behavior of purchased and sock puppet accounts spreading lies. The examples you came up with were cheerleading (though minimal in volume -- looks to me like something a single immature participant did in one day and then lost interest) but were not lies. Other than the one claiming I worked for him as a shill, which was in fact a lie (and a good example of the type of post cited by OP).

My concern specifically is fraudulent and abusive (and likely libelous, possibly in some places criminal) behavior of making false accusations of criminal acts, racism, and other unethical or disreputable behavior or characteristics. If you think that is just fine because it happens to involve an altcoin, we disagree.

I would actually like to hear from forum mods and/or admin whether false accusations of criminal acts or racism are acceptable uses.

Regarding false accusations of any kind, we can't really be sure if it's true: more often than not we have nor the power, nor the time to find if the info is true or not so we don't usually remove them, same with avoiding moderation of (real or not) scams. A different reason regarding racism - according to the forum policy, it's allowed since it's considered a person's opinion, even if it's offensive, and the forum prides itself on free speech.
4982  Other / Meta / Re: GoalCoin on: July 16, 2014, 04:56:23 PM
Pretty odd that they found this.
Google image search has its downsides I guess.

May be, but seriously it's not easy to find just pic all over the internet.

Maybe it rank high on seach engines when fifa searched it's keywords or maybe someone reported it to fifa.
Or maybe they just hired a guy to look for such images. Or maybe some user reported it to FIFA.

Yeah they will outsource a team to lookout for infringement of their trademarks and such, but it is very possible that it was reported by some other employee within FIFA and passed on to the relevant department.

It could be somebody not related to FIFA who wants to set GoalCoin back (for all their success), and simply reported their usage of trademarked images. Who knows, but the actions and offer to recover other information is a fair response.
Maybe there's a hidden bounty for exposing such copyright infringements? For example, somebody reported something to FIFA, was correct and got some kind of reward so they try to get another one again.
4983  Other / Meta / Re: BitcoinTalk++ script - v0.2.93 on: July 16, 2014, 04:54:04 PM
Hey JackJack, are there plans to make the script compatible with the new Forum Software when it comes out?
Absolutely
Will it keep the current accounts?

Also, New feature Request: Replace the default search here with Google Search
That's a great idea!
Yes, it will. Most, if not all info/stats/etc. will be transferred over.
4984  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: User Named: SeniorMember targeting buyers. on: July 16, 2014, 04:38:33 PM
Next time, if you deal with Bitcoins, use escrow. Good luck, hope your PP dispute goes well. Smiley
4985  Other / Meta / Re: How do you upload a photo on bitcointalk.org???? on: July 16, 2014, 04:06:35 PM
It would be nice if we could upload a damn picture to our profile.
seriously i dont know how to add a picture in my account.. Sad

We won't see the avatar feature back before the new forum software...

If I recall correctly, there was an hacker last year which managed to abuse the forum by using avatars.
Not sure how that's possible, but they have been disabled since.
According to theymos, the issue regarding avatars was fixed, but to be on the safe side, theymos decided to keep the avatars disabled until the new forum software arrives.
4986  Other / Meta / Re: GoalCoin on: July 16, 2014, 03:56:49 PM
Pretty odd that they found this.
Google image search has its downsides I guess.

May be, but seriously it's not easy to find just pic all over the internet.

Maybe it rank high on seach engines when fifa searched it's keywords or maybe someone reported it to fifa.
Or maybe they just hired a guy to look for such images. Or maybe some user reported it to FIFA.
4987  Other / Meta / Re: Account hacked, email, security question changed on: July 15, 2014, 07:43:18 PM
Sorry to hijack the thread, but I decided to post one of my btc addresses in case my account were to get hacked. Id appreciate  someone to quote this as well..

thanks...

PS sorry for you hacking loss.

Bigasic btc address  13NgZkHnzSgku8qR7uoBVisSm5n2pdhz2o
Quoting doesn't help - quotes can be faked and the post deleted. I reccommend sending a message to DefaultTrust, going to the Outbox, hovering over the link of your PM and writing down the ID (number at the end).
4988  Other / Meta / Re: Congrats hilariosandco on: July 14, 2014, 03:49:16 PM
Congratulations. But I have a question. How someone can become staff member? You need to be famous or something?

Reporting posts accurately and being active when many other staff members are not active. I think I would be right in assumming that they have staff which pretty much cover the forum 24 hours with the amount of staff and different time zones. Especially with Hilariosandco as he was very active throughout the day. He's on for at least 4 hours a day minimum. I don't also believe there aren't many mods from the UK which I believe Hilariosandco is from the UK.

I can't imagine they would need many more staff , if any.
He just reported a whole ton of reports, most of them correctly. He has shown he knows the forum policy, can effectively distinguish it and deal with many cases regarding it. Also, with the newbie jail gone, me and several other older mods wasn't enough to cover the excessive amounts of spam.

Congratulations. But I have a question. How someone can become staff member? You need to be famous or something?

I think based on the recent new staffs ckolivas and hilariosandco, you need to report a lot of posts and must be accurate.
Don't forget me and the new local mods. Wink

Congratulations. But I have a question. How someone can become staff member? You need to be famous or something?
Theymos has said it himslef that report huge amounts of cases accurately and you will be noticed.
4989  Other / Meta / Re: PUBLIC THREAD TO REQUEST RIPRISTINATION OF FORUMCOIN -FRM THREAD!!! on: July 12, 2014, 07:41:42 AM
Your thread was moved due to an on-site alt giveaway. If you don't specify where to apply, people are just gonna spam their "I'm interested", "sig added", etc. messages. Thus it was an on-site giveaway. Just make a new thread.
4990  Other / Meta / Re: Request: Child board for 'bitcoin wallets for iOS' on: July 11, 2014, 06:53:58 PM
Now that apple has allowed wallet apps in their app store, we are seeing more bitcoin apps added each day. To keep things organized it would be nice to have a child board in the Alternative Clients board, like Android has. As it is now, iOS wallet threads are spread out through the alt clients board and sometimes hard to find.
Thanks.
The "Bitcoin Wallet for Android" is meant not for all Android wallets, but for a specific wallet app, namely this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet&hl=lt. All other Android or iOS, or any other wallet goes into the Alternative clients board.
4991  Other / Meta / Re: Congrats hilariosandco on: July 11, 2014, 03:06:22 PM
Congrats Hilariousandco.

How often theymos add new staff.
Really depends. Sometimes they're just added when a member actively and accurately reports messages. Some when certain changes happen in the forum.

Congratulations and welcome to the club Grin hilariousandco, BTW.
4992  Other / Meta / Re: members that are part of the default trust list not active on: July 10, 2014, 02:05:53 PM
I don't see Ukyo on there anywhere?


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        (^_^)
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He's not on the third level either. Maybe he used to be a few month ago?
4993  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CryptoCentre.co on: July 08, 2014, 10:34:31 AM
Wrong subforum, you are providing SERVICE offering people to sell and buy goods, move the thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0 (economy > marketplace > services)
You are wrong as well. This goes to the Service announcements. Services is meant for on-site services, while Service announcements - for other sites.
4994  Other / Meta / Re: Corrupt Staff Deleting My Beauties on: July 07, 2014, 07:03:10 AM
I deleted them because those pictures were off-topic. Create a thread in Off-topic just for that and post them there instead of littering them over the whole forum.
4995  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk.org Extorting Users Privacy for Profit on: July 06, 2014, 10:52:39 AM
The units of evil are accumulated by IP bans. That exit node was probably used by multiple nuked spammers thus it accumulated this fee. There's nothing else to do but try reconnecting or pay the fee.
4996  Other / New forum software / Re: Should be clear if one gets a message from the forum/staff/theymos on: July 05, 2014, 03:04:58 PM
Mny places just shade the message slightly with a certain color (usually green or yellow). That could work here.
Or simply just change both the username and position text into a bright color.
4997  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: Alternative Account Recovery Way on: July 05, 2014, 03:01:51 PM
Can there be an alternative in place, where an address will be provided to the user and and an arbitrary small amount, say 0.00012345 BTC will be required to send to that address from one of the user's previously posted addresses for account recovery ?

How would sending money somewhere prove that you are the rightfull owner of that account?

If you send "from" an address, you prove that you have the privkey. It's more or less the same as signing a message.

Not necessarily. There are lots of ways to get people to send BTC to an address, owning the sending address is only one of several possible scenarios that could have that result. Bitcoins being sent from an address doesn't prove you own it.

The scenario I'm talking about has the following parameters...

i. From address (which user has posted before in the forum)

ii. To address (which Theymos or any other Global Mods may provide)

iii. The amount (which Theymos or any other Global Mods will provide)

How come all these be satisfied by someone who does not own the address ?

p.s. Even if the attacker changes all pre-posted addresses, we can verify user's actual posted address from either Bitcointa.lk or Google cache or archive.org/web/



Many would still be prone to fake mail attacks when a hacker requests a password/email reset, gets the info to reset the account and sends to the legitimate user a mail, such as "your account was locked due to suspicion of it being compromised, send this much to [address] to confirm you are the owner" or similiar. The attacker then would gain the login info and could hijack the account.
4998  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Bit2Gift.com] - Pay for your favorite services in BTC (Netflix, Hulu, Spotify) on: July 05, 2014, 02:40:29 PM
There is a marketplace for digital goods on this forum.  I would try that.  Can see trust and past trades.
See the original date of OP before posting.
4999  Other / Meta / Re: Thread deleted without warning on: July 05, 2014, 02:32:19 PM
I deleted your thread because it was a duplicate of your Alt. Cryptocurrencies service thread. Besides alt coin services don't belong in Gambling. BTW, I'm a patroller (I can moderate newbie content globally).

It was posted on the Gambling thread and not the Alt-Cryptos thread because it is a Gambling thread... It's actually a lot more related to Bitcoin than third party websites are. Yes if you will 'XCP' is traded as an alt-currency on exchanges - but if we get technical here all XCP are is embedded Blockchain data.  As opposed to what the millions of Centralized websites that have absolutely nothing to do with the Blockchain and are only on this forum because they accept Bitcoin as a method of payment?

And more specifically  https://xcpfeeds.info is directly and solely related to making Bets/Contracts on the Bitcoin Blockchain.

All altcoins, including those operating on other coins' blockchains, are considered as an alt coin discussion. That includes XCP and the well known Mastercoin.

Edit: Badbear beat me to it, but it still stands.

So I have three points:
a) I don't think reposting something on two Forums in different languages, or explained in different terms geared towards a different audience is Spam. Is it an ideal of use of content space? Probably not. Are all of these threads 100X times more worthwhile than 50% of the Content on this forum? Almost certainly.

b) A thread about a Website is not an Alt-Cryptocurrency announcement I beg to differ. Please provide one strand of logical reasoning for how a poker website that accepts BTC is more 'Bitcoin related'. At least in the case of this Website I would say it is significantly more interesting to Bitcoin user that want to Gamble, than to people speculating on Altcoins. (Which I think really must be the sole judgment criteria towards Poker sites which accept Bitcoin, as opposed to Poker sites that accept Credit Cards).

c) I could probably unearth at least 3 Mastercoin threads that ran in Project development. You might disagree with it now - but they were never moved out of there during their lifespan.

edit: Also d) http://xcpfeeds.info has a BIP32 Wallet, which is clearly Bitcoin related,
a)Reposting a thread in a Local subforum, correctly translated and on topic is not spam, because the Local boards are usually a self contained forum - with it's own mods and community. The english speaking audience doesn't visit it often and many of the local members hang around mostly in their Local board.

Other main boards are visited by many users thus if there are several threads in several sections, it often annoys users, myself included, and adds mostly nothing since the audience is usually the same as in every duplicate.

b)It's an altcoin that operates on the Bitcoin's blockchain thus it belongs in the Alt. Cryptocurrencies board. People go to the main boards to avoid these kind of "projects".

c)Be my guest. Report them to the moderator and the appropriate mods will handle it.

d)But the whole service is still mainly based around XCP. And that BIP32 wallet supports XCP, doesn't it?

a) I see your point.

c) I guess your policy changes with Moderator moods, I assume this month's mood is different. Although I do see Namecoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6017.0 ?

d) It does support XCP, but you can also send/receive BTC and sign raw transactions (which for example blockchain.info does not support).

And to the mainpoint, Please explain on account of which criterion a Poker site is placed into Gambling:
- A user sends BTC or pays with credit card
- A user receives Chips specific to that Poker Site (like centralized premined altcoin or something?)
- A user plays on that sites centralized server
- A user sells his chips to cash out to a card or BTC

Using xcpfeeds.info:
- A user can use a decentralized exchange to buy xcp for btc
- A user places a bet on the blockchain and is matched with another user
- A users bet is resolved through information embedded in the blockchain
- A user cashes out his xcp on the decentralized exchange for btc

I see similar 'Alt' steps in 1 & 4 for both Poker and xcpfeeds. At the very least as far as I can tell all that makes Poker relevant to the Bitcoin threads Again is that they accept Bitcoin. Which Counterparty does (accept bitcoin i mean?), which actually can be traded peer-to-peer directly from a users Bitcoin wallet. Steps 2 and 3 in the Poker scenario are obviously completely irrelevant to Bitcoin, where as steps 2 &3 in the Counterparty protocol are not.

I'd rather you actually got back to me on the whole Poker site logic, but TL:DR Correct me if I'm wrong the ultimate point of Forum sections/boards (generally speaking) is to enable users to find relevant material with a higher success rate. We could take a poll but I am overwhelmingly sure Gamblers find xcpfeeds.info more relevant than alt-coin (um idk the name), so I think you're really just picking at semantics at this point to preserve your earlier decision of deleting my thread. (Which by the way I primarily had a problem with not because it was deleted, but because I was not notified about it).

edit: You're seriously going to delete my thread from Gambling because you apparently have no logical arguments left, and nothing better to do with your life? (C'mon there are like 2000 scams on Bitcointalk at worst you could waste your life on that). 
c) Namecoin was posted when the Alt. Cryptocurrencies forum wasn't available (I think, this where you'll have to ask some longer time mods). The thread is there for historical reasons. Your thread is new.

d)Chips are not alternate cryptocurrency, it's a database entry in a website, usually non transferable, bought with Bitcoins or symbolizing a fixed amuont of bitcoins.

I did not delete your new thread (I'm not the only mod here), but I would have if I noticed. Scams are not moderated here - too much room for abuse, especially when such conflicts occur over a simple duplicate deletion.
5000  Other / Meta / Re: Thread deleted without warning on: July 05, 2014, 12:54:15 PM
I deleted your thread because it was a duplicate of your Alt. Cryptocurrencies service thread. Besides alt coin services don't belong in Gambling. BTW, I'm a patroller (I can moderate newbie content globally).

It was posted on the Gambling thread and not the Alt-Cryptos thread because it is a Gambling thread... It's actually a lot more related to Bitcoin than third party websites are. Yes if you will 'XCP' is traded as an alt-currency on exchanges - but if we get technical here all XCP are is embedded Blockchain data.  As opposed to what the millions of Centralized websites that have absolutely nothing to do with the Blockchain and are only on this forum because they accept Bitcoin as a method of payment?

And more specifically  https://xcpfeeds.info is directly and solely related to making Bets/Contracts on the Bitcoin Blockchain.

All altcoins, including those operating on other coins' blockchains, are considered as an alt coin discussion. That includes XCP and the well known Mastercoin.

Edit: Badbear beat me to it, but it still stands.

So I have three points:
a) I don't think reposting something on two Forums in different languages, or explained in different terms geared towards a different audience is Spam. Is it an ideal of use of content space? Probably not. Are all of these threads 100X times more worthwhile than 50% of the Content on this forum? Almost certainly.

b) A thread about a Website is not an Alt-Cryptocurrency announcement I beg to differ. Please provide one strand of logical reasoning for how a poker website that accepts BTC is more 'Bitcoin related'. At least in the case of this Website I would say it is significantly more interesting to Bitcoin user that want to Gamble, than to people speculating on Altcoins. (Which I think really must be the sole judgment criteria towards Poker sites which accept Bitcoin, as opposed to Poker sites that accept Credit Cards).

c) I could probably unearth at least 3 Mastercoin threads that ran in Project development. You might disagree with it now - but they were never moved out of there during their lifespan.

edit: Also d) http://xcpfeeds.info has a BIP32 Wallet, which is clearly Bitcoin related,
a)Reposting a thread in a Local subforum, correctly translated and on topic is not spam, because the Local boards are usually a self contained forum - with it's own mods and community. The english speaking audience doesn't visit it often and many of the local members hang around mostly in their Local board.

Other main boards are visited by many users thus if there are several threads in several sections, it often annoys users, myself included, and adds mostly nothing since the audience is usually the same as in every duplicate.

b)It's an altcoin that operates on the Bitcoin's blockchain thus it belongs in the Alt. Cryptocurrencies board. People go to the main boards to avoid these kind of "projects".

c)Be my guest. Report them to the moderator and the appropriate mods will handle it.

d)But the whole service is still mainly based around XCP. And that BIP32 wallet supports XCP, doesn't it?
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