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501  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the absance of Bitcoin affect the crypto Industry? on: December 10, 2023, 08:34:23 PM
I really do think the market is very mature now without Bitcoin, just imagine waking up tomorrow and there's no Bitcoin in the crypto market anymore, 50% of capital is gone and there are only shitcoins and some of the Altcoins bleeding hard, no reliability, the decentralization is not at all decentralized and DeFi narrative is dead. Some shiny ordinals flowing around and the institutional sector and retailers are no longer interested in the market because it's not mature at all now.

The entire liquidity cycle will get destroyed if we remove Bitcoin from this industry, I would even say that there will be no new capital because in crypto money starts flowing from Bitcoin to others because Bitcoin is the name of decentralization, reliability, trust, motivation, maturity and much more I can't write everything here.

From an investor's point of view, it's no longer a risk-investment market it will be another form of gambling industry where by luck you can gain some otherwise you'll lose all because in Alts maximum supply is controlled by the team, hehe you know what i mean to say rug-pulls etc etc.
502  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we see repeat of 2017 or new trend? on: December 10, 2023, 08:26:50 PM
I hope people remember what happened in December 2017 as last quarter of 2017 we witnessed bull run and during second half of December we saw price of Bitcoin dropping down and eventually triggered bearish market for next 3 years approximately and we are going through similar stuff but this is not a full fledged bull run but still we have seen crazy pumps for some Altcoin and even Bitcoin has increased. Are we going to witness price correction or bear market now ? Or else this time it's gonna be different and Bitcoin will reach new ATH and we won't see any bearish pattern in December ?

Hmm, I was not part of the crypto community in 2017, but I've already heard of the 2017 market cycle, comparing the current sentiments and expected developments I can say that no this was just a pre-wave of the Bull run and there's nothing to be afraid of that we might face a small bear market again, well it can be possible but 95% chances are that we won't fall into such scenario.

Becasue the ETF's hype and the ETF contenders standing in the financial world really deserves such pre-hype. By the end of the year, we can expect a massive jump and then a small consolidation zone over there. Currently if any bad thing happens to the EFT approval any sort of denial or deal after Jan it will be a hit to market and we may see market falling freely for some short time, but according to the lastest SEC's statements and other developments its highly expected in Jan there will be some ETF approvals reserved.
503  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Whas this a smart move or stupid move? on: December 10, 2023, 08:12:07 PM
Question to more experienced trades here. I been holding some Bonk for a while and last 24hours it's on a real down fall, so some hours ago I swapped all my Bonk to USDC to save me from more loss and if I am lucky I can buy back Bonk later and even coming out with more Bonk from this situation. Was this a smart or stupid move? I am not sure but I just followed my intuition (The swap fee was under 1%).

Hmm, TBH OP I have no idea about the recent price trend of the bonk token you've mentioned. Still, according to the FA and a small overview of the last few week's rally, I can say in the short term your position on the trade was right, you should wait for a significant drop to take a re-entry I haven't analyzed the support and resistance levels yet.

In a quick overview, I can say the move was decent and would be the same if I were in your place. Shitcoins/memecoins are not the way to trade I use to play in the controlled risk environment with some top projects and hot projects.
504  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: December 10, 2023, 07:56:52 PM
Overall to idea bta dety ho like top 10 or top 20 receivers or senders, lekin jo in my nhi hoty unka name no doubt nichy jo list ap provide krty ho waha to a jata lekin sent or received merits ka number ap waha nhi likhty. Ya kya scene hai last wali list ka.

Hmm ye nichee wali list jo hoti haa woo total participants hote in merit circulation from sending to receiving both datasets. baqi kon kitne le rah dee raa oska aik combined chart baan sakta haa, oske illawa merits maa as you know sabkoo to milte nai merits joo active hote to chart maa max to max cover hoo jatee even 1 merit point walee bii.

Mai ap ki baat sai mukamal itfaq kerta hu mai nai bee Altcointalk per account banaya tha per jo cheez yaha hai wo abee is sai bohut door hai so mai nai account use nahi kia kiunkai jo informations updates aur deegar cheezai chahia un kai pass abee kuch bee nahi hai to issi liai yaha per rahna ziada bahter hai laikin ab jaisai changes aa rahi hai to mujai umeed hai waha per thory see traffic ziada ho gee laikin yaad rakhai yai sab waqti ho gee.

Baki aaj kal market bohut ziada busy ho gai hai aur kuch coins bohut acha profit dai raha hai laikin is waqat bohut soch samaj ker investment kerna chahia kiunkai ham sab jantai hai yai kaisai volatility kerti hai aur kissi bee waqat bohut nuksan bee dai sakti hai.

Hmm, app kon sir, zara saa taaruff karwain please, lagtee too app koi senior hain as I haven't seen you before here on the forum, at least jabsee main active tubseee too nai.

Hmm, baqi thanks for the tips to manager risk in the current market becasue due to highly bullish weeks a healthy correction is possible and ajj market kafi bleed hoi haa alts maa specially.

505  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: December 10, 2023, 02:12:54 PM
Merit Summary November 2023
by: Hamza2424

Asslam o Alikum dear fellow, kia haal hain sabke too hazir hain humm aik orr monthly merit summary/report ka sath, iss bar ka sata theek thak hain, magar hamre active users ka hisaab see at least 450 kaa ass pass merits too share honnee chaaiyee chalain kia kar saktee iss baree maa, yee too theymos paa haa kaa huain aik or merit source ya moderator milta haa ka nai.

Note: The data is available on DdmrDdmr merit dashboard too app log data ki validity ko wahan see check out akr saktee hain, main sooch raha tha kaa monthly activity reprot and merit summary ko combine akr dia jayee from next time, magar iska kuch khass faida nai hogaa hehe, mujhe merits kam millain gee haha. App loog kia kehte hoo let mee know dear fellows.


Starting with total merits sent by the users, too yahan parr top paa as always Shahzadafzal sir hain, Hugebalck sir busy hain is waja see hamree stats maa kafi faraq pada haa as woo bii additionally as a merit source human help karte thee. oske baad second paa top sender maa Galdiator hain oske baad apko pata hiii haa.


Next haa Monthly joo merits share hotee main nee jan see Noc taak saree months add kar diyee hain, well ye year bohat bohat achaa raha MashAllah see, kafi ups and downs ayee magar hamre merit shares bohat achee hain comparing to many other boards. even much local boards humne outpass kiye, threads maa bii humnee lead kiaa.


Next baat karr lete hain kaa kon raha top receiver too, chart maa maximum possible members ko add kia haa koi miss howa too bura naa mnaiyee, dear galtii hoo jatii haa kabi kabar baqi data I'm sure theek haa as fomulea maa ya toon sabka galat hoga nai too sabkaa theek hoga.


Next haa rank to rank merits sending and receiving, app logg bi jantee hos ending maa top kon karee ga and receiving ama kon yee to lagta haa trend set ho gyaa kaa, senders koo dena kuch nai haa abb yahan hi deklh lain, app log human bi kuch nai dete haha, much mehrbani karke compilation kaa kia at least +1 too banta haa haha , esi koi baat nai haa dear fellows merits kii kami naa kabi mujhe hoi naa hogi InshAllah haha, Shahzadafzal zindabadd.... Baqi yaar sharam kia karo Legendary koo kuch dee dia karo lalch maa hi de dia karo kaa return mille gaaa.


Iske baaad app logon kaa lia a list of all participants involved in merit sending and reciving apna apna naam dekh kaa kurandazii maa shamil hoon, koi bii non-merit source joo 20+ merits share karee oske sath top 3 senda maa hoo osko next time see merit traf see jitne merits sending maa otne trx.

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506  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Selling All Fiat In Bank For BTC? on: December 09, 2023, 07:39:27 PM
Bro, why are you making things difficult with your idea by putting these unreasonable scenarios, do you really think a person will sell his/her house to buy Bitcoins, be realistic you all accumulate according to our capacity. Going out of the way in any market to gain financial freedom can be a non-recoverable disaster.

TBH, I have some Bitcoin figures, I want to have 1M Bitcoins but I cant have them, obviously, so I know to which limit I can accumulate and prepare myself. While investing there should be an investment approach even in Bitcoin it should not be gambling.
507  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How much human supervision do you believe AI needs for crypto trading? on: December 09, 2023, 06:46:54 PM
As a rule, AI no longer needs supervision even now. There was a very interesting experiment on this ... an AI was trained to shoot down airplanes under the guidance of a supervisor. After the training phase, the AI was asked what it would do first to improve. Its answer: "Kill the supervisor" Wink

Ahh, So evil haha, TBH AI is interesting the duplication model just outpasses the very outcome and currently I think we are playing under a controlled environment, any upgrade from this level will bring some unwanted results with AI. In trading, AI bots i think that will just lead the market to lose its natural flow.

To be honest, I also don't understand what AI is supposed to do in the trading sector:
  • Most of the data is very outdated
  • AI cannot predict the future ...
  • ...If it does, bots will exploit this so quickly that it will once again just be a question of who programs the fastest bot - as is already the case with arbitrage trading.

Exactly, I think the same what maximum it can do is assist in technical analysis and manage the data and indicators for use more effectively, in taking positions it can help if it will, but that will only destroy the market behaviors.

Ai can give the speculations based on the TA, but the efficiency will be uncertain. AFAIK the efficiency will increase with he upgrades in the training models.
508  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: December 09, 2023, 06:12:05 PM
Dot seems to be starting to wake up

Kia hee coin the 2020 aur 2021 ma magar bad ma aisa sar neeche kia jaise k Pakistan Falesteen ke madad karne se sar neeche kar gia ha. Esko chahiye tha k 10$ se opar hotha magar ye tho meme coins se be badtar lag raha ha. Dot aur ADA tho muje kuch ajeeb se coins lag rahe ha jo etna hype hone k bawajood kuch nahe kar rahe.

Hmm, I'm not sure apko idea haa ka nai but Dot was under heavy pressure over the whole yaer magar 2024 kaa start see hii kuch major updates hain regarding DOT ecosystem, personally main DOT bohat expensive buy kia thaa, at around 8$ to 9$ but still main DOt to accumulate akr raha thaa so my average is around 5.6$ per coin and abi main profit maa hun I'm expecting a 7X at least from the current price which near around last cycles ATH.

baqi Dot will d better I'm damm sure about it. baqi dekhtee hain, Syeds56 sir SOL is good but currently isko accumulate karna worth it nai iss se achee BTC yaa ETH koo accumulate kia jaye still, oske baad uch risky coins hain joo kaa main omeed karr raha hun achaa retrun dain geee.
509  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Resistance In Crypto Market & Its Types - (Newbie Guide Series) on: December 09, 2023, 11:41:41 AM
Bumping an old topic, according to the market's current scenario, I'm sure seniors can help newbies understand the current market resistance levels and guide them with some tips to handle trade. Resistance and support levels are the basic and core concepts every trader and investor should understand.

Let's see, is it worth not bumping and old topic as far as I know there were 4 or 5 topics regarding a basic concept of trading for newbies created by myself. (I'm bad at English still, its enough to convey the message.)
510  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: December 08, 2023, 07:58:59 PM

Mujhe Altcointalk paa kuch chaeezain kafii achi lagii as demotion wagera and kuch orr biii magar filhaal ka lia mera koi plan nai haa Altcointalk paa move karnee ka becasue naturally yahan posts karna bii kabi kabia ik challenge hota as most of the time humain students ko move akrte rehna hota from UNI to HOme and much out of town etc etc.



Brother, mein ne bi bht pehle Altcointalk ko join kia tha mgr mujhy itna interesting nhi laga tha esliye mein ne chor dia. Bitcointalk pe jo bi halat hon hum eni k sath adjust kerny ki koshish kerein gay.

G, sir InshAllah hum too yahin hain haha, at least abi to yahan hii hain, anyway thanks for the amrket updates, ye JTO main mera dil kar raha tha entry kaa at 1.9 but i completely ignored it, next time sai.

Baqi app kuch revealing karna chahain gee, apne portfolio kaa related like app kiss kiss altcoin koo hold kar rehe currently, in catagories and what you think about ETH L2 projects. SOL meri expectation se zayada pump howa ha seems like mujhe apna narrative badlna padee ga SOl ka for the short term at least.

Baqi currently hidden gems maa or you can say low cap maa mere pass just a few options thi and 2 koo main accumulate kar raha time to time, for mid-term, i have ARB, OP in ETH L2 coins. I'm expecting ARB to explode more in the coming time.
511  Economy / Reputation / Re: Light_warrior / Memorial thread ... 🕯️ on: December 08, 2023, 07:46:36 PM
The sad news, is I'm not very familiar with him because it's only once when we've interacted with each other. After reading a few posts, I can say many people had good relations with him, from the bottom of my heart Condolences to his family & friends. I would say everything is momentary in this entire universe, some day all will fall except one "The Creator".. We all had to die one day.

Light_warrior will be always a true warrior for the community.
512  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: best way to start on: December 08, 2023, 07:33:21 PM
the person who helped you create the Bitcoin wallet, does he know your private key?

he just send some links to open wallet


Hmm, Wrong quote, in your post a "]" is missing in the end. What kind of links does he send to you, you need to understand Not your key, not your coins, learn more about wallets, decentralized wallets, and Hot/Cold storage wallets. These are a few keywords that can help you to find the relevant information regarding the wallets.

After learning about wallets better take care of your privacy and security, a good wallet never ensures the security of your funds so you need to work on the environment in which you are operating with the wallet.

After that, you can move to accumulation, and in accumulation, you can also prefer having help from the forum scenarios about adopting a strategy according to your desires. Most people prefer DCA to newbies and I dont, because there are many types of newbies or should I say all newbies are not the same. Still, DCA is good a proper strategy to manage risk and  accumulation rate.
513  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Finally I did it (I am happy to join). on: December 08, 2023, 07:24:43 PM
Quote from: mcdouglasx link= Cool=5476943.msg63286656#msg63286656 date=1701982906
I had 2 btc when their price was less than $200, sadly my situation forced me to sell them at $300, therefore I came to the conclusion that if we do not have economic stability we will not be able to maintain it in the long term.
but without a doubt it was a great investment.

Hmm, sad anyway it's never too late to enter Bitcoin because there are just a few halvings gone, a massive number is still on its way, and your entry can be still perfect just take a forward step. I'm happy I acknowledged Bitcoin in my early time while entering the financial world, I even know people from 2012 or 2016 somehow connected with crypto and even they dont have their targeted accumulation till now.

So it's not about from how long you are connected, it's from how long you are taking action. OP congrats on your first buying, a decent amount according to me you've got it in your first entry and for many it took many entries to fill this numbers of accumulation.
514  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Applying signatures and avatars on: December 08, 2023, 07:16:28 PM
I wasn't expecting, the implementation of the suggestion, thanks for contributing towards guiding new users as always. Keep it up I'm not sure if you've covered other profile settings as well, but after experiencing this guide or by exploring by themselves newbies can customize their profile under the forum limitations, such as status info, IP info, and other features.

I've seen some of your guiding topics, I appreciate all the efforts you put in for newbies, keep exploring, and keep growing.

regarding this part, aside from the maximum number of characters allowed, I think you should also add what other feature on the signature is unlocked on each rank. if I remember correctly, a new feature in the signature unlocks on each rank.

Hmm yeah, there are a few upgrades on every rank regarding glow.

515  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: (BTC) it really helps on: December 08, 2023, 05:36:21 PM
Regarding to day by day signal Bitcoin has the most perfect signal which assure you with no loss but only profit. As days goes on, it is the only coin which has 100% of gain. Bitcoin is also a coin who's motivation has been viral, to the world. it is no more an intro to people, in the sense almost all people are already into the system because Bitcoin itself deals with the help of financial growth.

Hmm, OP I'm guessing you are trying to express something but bro from this post I cant get anything except you are Praising Bitcoin for a few reasons.



Bitcoin price is pumping now is not a guarantee of profit all the time, the only way that profit is certain is when you invest in a long term investment for like 4-10yrs and above by using only the amount that you can afford to lose to invest regularly through DCA method.

In the long time frame, it does guarantee returns, DCA is a good approach, and Buy & Hold with any strategy will work decent for anyone who wants to be a successful investor in the crypto market.

516  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Beware of Clipboard Virus! on: December 08, 2023, 05:18:27 PM
Hmm, interesting also thanks Op for mentioning this, currently I'm using the third-party clipboard to save time while working with data, I'll make sure to uninstall it because I've some of the active hot wallets working on my same PC. Seems like there's something OP hasn't tracked out because even after reading the full post i cant figure out how OP's system got infected. Here in my case, there's no incident yet but as I'm using third-party clipboard software there are some vulnerabilities.

These days I've encountered 2 stories back to back covering the hacking using the rubber ducky, so what I want to mention is dont be careless and make sure of a healthy environment while working with finance-related data and applications. Prefer a hardware wallet more suitable if you can afford it.

517  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Analyses on: December 08, 2023, 03:43:31 PM
The bitcoin is in a rally this week as it surpassed the 40k$ mark. But its safe to stay calm and analyse the market well rather that being fomo and taking risky and stupid decitions. There is a resistance at 41k$ - 42k$ mark. There can also be a correction again and also there is a CME gap at 40k$ mark. So keep an eye on those key levels and points. Manage your risks and money always.

Hehe, the Analysis seems like already expired, also this topic doesn't belong to this section. The current market is trading above 44k and seems like there's no strong resistance level except the 48k range. I'm strongly hopeful to see the market ending above 50k by the end of the year.

Hehe, I made a prediction many times in early 2023 that the yearly ending would be above 44k seems like I was right, hehe I know, anyone would have predicted it hehe but still I'm happy that my prediction on a long time frame was right. TBH now I think it better to not fall in fomo in a short time frame i was expecting a correction and the market also covered a small correction already.
518  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: December 07, 2023, 07:13:27 PM
Very Important Post for the Pakistani Members

Well, App kafi badal gye, human kabi quote hi nai karteee. Zmana guzar gyaa apne human mention karna chodd dia hazoor koi galti hoo gai kia humse.

Hmm, mujhe ye sad news kuu lagg rahi haa iski waja see haamri activity maa kafi impact a skta haa ku kaa aik forum paa awaam achee see post akrtii nai haa or app dosree forum paa jane kaa bad yahan paa kia expect kar saktee hain. Anyway Signture jo log join karna chatee woo loog too zaror jain gee,

Mujhe Altcointalk paa kuch chaeezain kafii achi lagii as demotion wagera and kuch orr biii magar filhaal ka lia mera koi plan nai haa Altcointalk paa move karnee ka becasue naturally yahan posts karna bii kabi kabia ik challenge hota as most of the time humain students ko move akrte rehna hota from UNI to HOme and much out of town etc etc.


For the rest Unknown OP thanks for p-osting the summary bro, main kuch new graphs bana cah raha hehe, dekhtee hain kia kar saktee take mere 18 baqi rehte merits to reach 1k poor hoo jain, let hope for good. Baqi kuch errors hain data maa as main posts read kar raha that PUBLICTALK ne kuch mention bi kia that, app zara osko check kar lena nai too hum too hain hii, omeed ha kal koo main merit analysis post kron gaa.

519  Economy / Speculation / Re: So I guess we sell at $48626 ? on: December 07, 2023, 07:00:49 PM
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0.618 Fibonacci is not always correct; just because you see it in the market numerous times and the price bounces back when it hits that level doesn't mean it works 100% of the time. The golden zone between 0.5 and 0.618 Fib is where price normally pulls back, however trading or predicting with fib alone is hard. SnR, in my opinion, is considerably superior to Fib since without Fib, you may trade with only SnR. To boost the probability of my trade, I employ Fib as confluence.

According to my observations on the chart, the price bounced when it reached SnR levels near the 0.618 fib. In the 2023 chart, the price may reach $45k to $50k before dropping because the market may obey the SnR, Fib, Supply, and FVG, or may also sweep a liquidity on that swing point before the price drops.

Hmm, Price speculations cant be trusted every time with the indicators and supporting historical momentum, especially when we are talking about the situations now, where the market seems more dominated by the Sentiments and the unclear and surprising developments are highly expected.

In such cases, we can just modify our positions from time to time or just let the scenario come up with some clearity.
520  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any way to swap Bitcoin? on: December 07, 2023, 06:50:53 PM
Hmm, I'm really curious Op mentioned Wassabi Wallet and a couple of hours ago, I heard ICO announcing the re-lunch of Wassabi Wallet's marketing campaign on the Bitcointlak. Anyway, that is another topic, currently OP wants to have assistance with a person who gave him some Bitcoins face-to-face, and back in time he was arrested for what he's unaware of it.

Buddy, you can better investigate first for what he got arrested back in time because you may be fearing for nothing. If there was really some kind of case related to Bitcoins, you should make a P2P trade or a cash trade with a retailer nearby you. hehe Am I doing right by recommending anything, anyway whatever OP posted in the context of that I think if there was a serious case about Bitcoin and OP's post is legitimate he's the victim and he has the right to get out of this trouble.

The easiest solution is to download the Samourai wallet for Android or Sparrow for desktop devices, and then use Whirlpool (zerolink coinjoin implementation).

Learn more here
https://samouraiwallet.com/whirlpool
https://sparrowwallet.com/docs/mixing-whirlpool.html
https://bitcoiner.guide/whirlpool/

Using Bisq to mix your coins may not be a smart idea.

Hehe, You are assisting him well anyway providing the right information is our duty if we know anything but dont be careless every time just friendly advice. Becasue OP just made his 1st post.

 
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