But i can come up with a scenario that would end with me having a unit. Here it is, they were not ready when faced with the community's demands, so to avoid a false start they faked some evidence to get funding and more time to complete an actual unit. And due to strict contract with component providers they cannot provide any Electrical CAD, device pictures or videos. They also do not want to show any stats until its on par with its target, also because stats are not undeniable proof.
I do not believe that, its a hypothetical scenario.
I am not responsible for the resulting electro-chemical reactions that have resulted in your brain from reading anything i have posted.
I've changed my stance. Before you had a choice. Whether you have been in on the scam or not, you are, without question...a complete, and utter; idiot. You're so stupid you cannot be real. no this is clearly ad hominem by quoting you make you're reply an argument on what is quoted simply calling someone an idiot is not an ad hominem He said that your behavior on the forum is too stupid for you to be a real person. He essentially called you a fake, because NOBODY's as stupid as you are. Hence, you're a shill. That's not an ad hominem attack either, it's merely an observation. You take stupid to a whole new level. Is it any wonder people doubt that you're for real with this crap? Bunch of name calling whores, its an observation for sure, its also an opinion. But do not worry it does not discourage me from posting. |
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Do i rush for a refund while i still can or do i explain how theyve been busted and ask for an explanation?
You are a fucking idiot. This is totally not an ad-hominem attack. Honest. no you are? i already know the answer to my own questions, this is meant to make people think. No. You are. I already know this. This is meant to make people think.  |
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Do i rush for a refund while i still can or do i explain how theyve been busted and ask for an explanation?
You are a fucking idiot. This is totally not an ad-hominem attack. Honest. no you are? i already know the answer to my own questions, this is meant to make people think. |
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Back on topic, CedarTec is acting clueless right now. > Dear customer,
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> all informations we can publish, has been
> published by us.
> We can give out more informations soon.
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> With best regards,
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> Your CedarTec Team. Do i rush for a refund while i still can or do i explain how theyve been busted and ask for an explanation? |
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But i can come up with a scenario that would end with me having a unit. Here it is, they were not ready when faced with the community's demands, so to avoid a false start they faked some evidence to get funding and more time to complete an actual unit. And due to strict contract with component providers they cannot provide any Electrical CAD, device pictures or videos. They also do not want to show any stats until its on par with its target, also because stats are not undeniable proof.
I do not believe that, its a hypothetical scenario.
I am not responsible for the resulting electro-chemical reactions that have resulted in your brain from reading anything i have posted.
I've changed my stance. Before you had a choice. Whether you have been in on the scam or not, you are, without question...a complete, and utter; idiot. You're so stupid you cannot be real. no this is clearly ad hominem by quoting you make you're reply an argument on what is quoted simply calling someone an idiot is not an ad hominem |
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Yeah... because i can see it... give a few refunds(if that is even true), change the board image for a better one and tada, its real now? NO it just a better trap.
They claim to have a working ASIC, that ends to be a just a sewered Motherboard with randoms parts on it, its a scam, there is NO MORE discussion to be had, even the Russians figure it out when they see that highly insulting "ASIC hardware" image, you are the only one that is trying to give them any credit, and you are sleeping user that as 90+% of his posts in this tropic!
I gona say it again, stop wasting time, nobody cares what you say, half of the things you say does not make any sence, and the other half nobody belives you.
im not disagreeing or agreeing, they may or may not do that some do care, you do not represent everybody. they have given refunds, ands thats what puzzles me. In no way does that benefit them with the current community. scam? i dont know |
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I dont care what they are doing, is a scam, end of story. You could easily refund 2 people, so you can lure another 10 intro the scam. The forum isn't a scam prevention service. Don't take anythings continued existence here to be a sign of support for it.
Nobody is asking mods to do any investigation, but when a scam is reaveled by users and there is proof about it, its normal to report it as scam, and do exactly the same thing is was done with Prime ASIC... the "?" still on the title is an insult to me, that i put 3 hours intro this to bring clear evidence that this was an scam. Looking the other way IS support the scammers and nobody whants to start thinking there are a mod bribed or part of it, that is no good for anyone... so, ill highly recomend mods to do the 30 seconds task of editing the title, ban the user and put a warning in the OP with the page number to the evidence, exactly the same is was done with PrimeASIC... There is no much to disscuss about it. Ill start accussing mods of supporting scammers if nothing is done. Well it took fake delivery's to prove primeASIC was a scam. I guarantee you not only 3 refunds were made, not many will be forthcoming about the risk they took and humiliation of falling for a scam (if they feel there should be any humiliation). I think of the 160orders maybe 60 would have asked for a refund by now. |
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no i can post my theory's if i want, people may judge but i dont call Ad hominem arguments judgments.
doubt is neutral, welcome it.
You are being childish. And no, they don't judge you ad hominem. They couldn't because they don't know anything about your person. They judge you because of the pointless arguments you post. they dont need to know my person to make ad hominem arguments, calling me an idiot is an ad hominem when it is a reply. Also they have this virtual person with its own personality that they know. pointlessness is a matter of opinion. we are sidetracking into semantics, the problem at hand is that we have a company who has faked a device around a partially sound story and is giving refunds even tho they have been busted for the fake evidence. What does the community think? Whats CedarTec statement on this? Whats next, whats real, why? |
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it was an investment risk, intellect plays a role but my decision was done with the information at hand at that point in time, it does not make me an idiot to have played the game of risks.
scammed? not yet, whether they truly are a scam is still up for debate until someone comes out with no money and no unit. At this point we are still playing with probability's and not absolutes, a game of risks not a game of tactics. Obviously now it tends towards an irrationally improbable risk and thats why i got a refund. But nevertheless im still in the game.
I don't think the others in this thread call you an idiot because of your initial order. The main cause of them calling you an idiot is because you don't stop finding excuses to justify that you payed for one of these. We don't need your theories on why Cedartec did things or did not. Those theories are completely worthless and only spread doubt that will trigger a counter response. If you do not want to get a refund on your first order and take the risk, fine. But stop posting you theories, they do make you look like an idiot, sorry mate. Let Cedartec do the talking for a change. no i can post my theory's if i want, people may judge but i dont call Ad hominem arguments judgments. doubt is neutral, welcome it. I am considering a refund for my first order if they dont start talking soon. |
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But i can come up with a scenario that would end with me having a unit. Here it is, they were not ready when faced with the community's demands, so to avoid a false start they faked some evidence to get funding and more time to complete an actual unit. And due to strict contract with component providers they cannot provide any Electrical CAD, device pictures or videos. They also do not want to show any stats until its on par with its target, also because stats are not undeniable proof.
I do not believe that, its a hypothetical scenario.
I am not responsible for the resulting electro-chemical reactions that have resulted in your brain from reading anything i have posted.
I've changed my stance. Before you had a choice. Whether you have been in on the scam or not, you are, without question...a complete, and utter; idiot. You're so stupid you cannot be real. You are an idiot, did you not read the last two lines? You must be from Amurica. Im as real as it gets, unlike many of the regurgitators such as you here. ...says the idiot who sent money to these scammers.  it was an investment risk, intellect plays a role but my decision was done with the information at hand at that point in time, it does not make me an idiot to have played the game of risks. scammed? not yet, whether they truly are a scam is still up for debate until someone comes out with no money and no unit. At this point we are still playing with probability's and not absolutes, a game of risks not a game of tactics. Obviously now it tends towards an irrationally improbable risk and thats why i got a refund. But nevertheless im still in the game. |
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But i can come up with a scenario that would end with me having a unit. Here it is, they were not ready when faced with the community's demands, so to avoid a false start they faked some evidence to get funding and more time to complete an actual unit. And due to strict contract with component providers they cannot provide any Electrical CAD, device pictures or videos. They also do not want to show any stats until its on par with its target, also because stats are not undeniable proof.
I do not believe that, its a hypothetical scenario.
I am not responsible for the resulting electro-chemical reactions that have resulted in your brain from reading anything i have posted.
I've changed my stance. Before you had a choice. Whether you have been in on the scam or not, you are, without question...a complete, and utter; idiot. You're so stupid you cannot be real. You are an idiot, did you not read the last two lines? You must be from Amurica. Im as real as it gets, unlike many of the regurgitators such as you here. |
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Looks to me there's one missing. The one placed the same day this thread was started. Its not missing, i did not ask for a refund for it yet. I may at some point but i didn't want to ask for two refunds and get none. |
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That address is a receiving address on cavirtex, I mine directly to it.
Google for the address. You will find it elsewhere associated to gaby_64
http://psp.bbtgp.net/forum/index.php?/topic/815-aircrack-psp/rojXverse is a projects platform. Not just any kind of platform, this is a platform that will provide people with tools to give any kind of project the accelerated pace of progress that open source has been providing to software.
This platform goes further then just tools, the environment will be engineered to increase the ease of communication across multiple forms of interaction and it will be engineered to make it easy to document, track and manage projects.
The importance of open source and the emergence of open hardware shows the need for such a platform, that may, if successful, bring these concept and new ones to new frontiers.
Open, collaborative, crowdsourced, version controlled, community integrated, project development will have a major impact on the future of society.
BTC: 17DgDs9e1tsgT1t8yzaYpuMPBjim1rhETT http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dFxHpCeTp5AJ:psp.bbtgp.net/forum/index.php%3F/topic/815-aircrack-psp/+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=usProjXverse is a projects platform. Not just any kind of platform, this is a platform that will provide people with tools to give any kind of project the accelerated pace of progress that open source has been providing to software. This platform goes further then just tools, the environment will be engineered to increase the ease of communication across multiple forms of interaction and it will be engineered to make it easy to document, track and manage projects. The importance of open source and the emergence of open hardware shows the need for such a platform, that may, if successful, bring these concept and new ones to new frontiers. Open, collaborative, crowdsourced, version controlled, community integrated, project development will have a major impact on the future of society. Please help make this web application a reality. If you cannot donate please at-least share this link among your peers in all your networks. The contributions to this campaign will be used to acquire high bandwidth services, server collocation and servers. http://www.indiegogo...ects/projxverse Thank You I know as a fact that that Bitcoin address was not on that site a couple days ago. And that wasn't the address you use to pay for the unit. I need to hunt that down. Its not an address i control, cavirtex controls it i can only receive from it to my cavirtex account. The address i paid with is again a cavirtex controlled address, a withdraw. My campaign had ended and failed so i changed my accounts signature. i am Gaby_64, that is easy to find by googling anonymousg64. |
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It makes sense if one were attempting to instill confidence in potential suckers. If i got a refund, that means quite a few others must have also. How would it instill any more confidence when their top supporter no longer supports them and the device they have shown has been proven to have been faked. Unless they want me to come up with a theory that would sound so convincing everyone would buy back in? Well here it is... dont have one. But i can come up with a scenario that would end with me having a unit. Here it is, they were not ready when faced with the community's demands, so to avoid a false start they faked some evidence to get funding and more time to complete an actual unit. And due to strict contract with component providers they cannot provide any Electrical CAD, device pictures or videos. They also do not want to show any stats until its on par with its target, also because stats are not undeniable proof. I do not believe that, its a hypothetical scenario. I am not responsible for the resulting electro-chemical reactions that have resulted in your brain from reading anything i have posted. |
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That address is a receiving address on cavirtex, I mine directly to it.
Google for the address. You will find it elsewhere associated to gaby_64
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Really, you think I care what some of you assholes think.
You represent yourself, no one else. And to you, FU
Evidently you do care. You've posted in this thread over 100 times and painted yourself as the village idiot in the process. We become more stupid every time we read one of your posts. Please just stop posting and go away. Good luck stopping me from posting if you keep inciting me. I will report back when I get a refund, still waiting |
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Seriously no. You have it wrong, I am honestly independent.
Im waiting for my refund of 7.9
Stop posting in here. No-one wants to listen to your inanity any more, nor does anyone care that you are "honestly independent". Just fuck off already. Really, you think I care what some of you assholes think. You represent yourself, no one else. And to you, FU |
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Bitcoin for $300, Alex.
This user dedicated 90%+ of their post count to a single thread.
Who is_______________?
Atlas ?  You got the anonymous part right. Alex for $400, Alex. This was the smartest bird in the world. Who is Alex, Alex? Correct! Seriously no. You have it wrong, I am honestly independent. Im waiting for my refund of 7.9 |
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