Nav bagholder here

I have to agree that i dont like it when posts are deleted although i can understand why. Im not going to cheer for nav here as this isnt the right topic to do hehe, but i know a bit about the nav history.

Indeed in july nav devs told they have had a double spend attack. Although bittrex confirmed this, nobody except the devs knows what happened exactly so there are people who believe it and people who dont.

At that time nav was at 2000sat and since then dropped to 200/300sat at its lowest point. Indeed it went up in a week from 300 to 1000sats based on the anon news, then few days later from 1000sats to 3000sats, although the 3000sat was only a temporary spike, it went down quickly to 2400-2700 and now hanging around 1600-2500.

So you can say it has finally recovered...or you can say its a pump (and dump)...who is right...time will tell..

If it was pumped on purpose nobody knows... To be honest i think all coins get pumped and dumped over time...when a coin gets popular the pump groups can make profit...can you name one coin which isnt pumped? the last months i have seen: opal, smbr, xst, can, vior, noon, paycoin, librex, glowshares, ripple, fuel2coin and so on...again basically all coins get pumped with or without help from devs..

The last months nav was already getting some good attention. devs came with regular updates and are now planning to release their big one. And yes also i am hoping it isnt a hoax. But new devs which where added after the last debacle have joined the team, which give trust, at least to me.

When a coin gets lots of attention there will always be people who try to be negative or try to find some secret agendas, which is good. there are a lot of scams in crypto world...so listening to both sides is always good!

Personally i love reading both possitive and negative critics, as long as people try to tell it in a decent way. I think some of the posts are deleted because it wasnt really a normal discussion anymore, people where yelling, accusing each other, calling scams and so on which isnt good for anyone...

And yes some heavy nav supporters feeling attacked if someone tries to fud. I dont say everything is fud, but you have to understand that most of them are happy at the moment and they really believe the anon will come and will work...they react with emotion and dont want to hear negative things, and when you keep throwing oil on the fire it ends of in a yes-no game..

im not pointing a finger here bye the way...

cheers

Robin

because i like the concept...it looked promissing, so i really hope im wrong

you are not even curious why dev hasnt been online for 4 days? and yes weekend was in that as well but still. But trust me, every dev who is devoted to his project can make the time to at least visit his own topic once a day..

yeah not looking good, dev offline for more then 4 days! only 0.3btc buy support... im a possitive guy, but........

luckely all those small bot orders have vanished. the bot is still very active though...its hard to predict at what phase it is in but it looks like he has accumulated enough to go up again...

also the sell side is 50% smaller then it was a few days ago..dont know if thats due to the bot but it only takes a few btc to get the price around 3000 sat... so when it goes up again it can go fast...

ok lets hope so. but its important that dev shows his face more here and come up with regular updates. i have seen too many scams the last years...people/investors panic fast...and you already see this in the price...

and how hard can it be to post one post a day and reply investors questions..it only takes a few minutes of time..now it looks he just doesnt care or ran away...

i sold most of my coins...had 500k. will buy back once trust is build again...

hope my previous conclusion was wrong!

ps. indeed someone is accumulating...but thats probably because this coin is on the ryan pump list...

- nothing heared the whole week.
- deadline of promissed wallet passed without a single reply or update from the dev
- dev hasnt been online for three days
- no buy support at all
- lame excuse about delaying payouts
- multipool isnt used by anyone
- forum here is already close to death
- nobody seems to trust or know the dev

 i dont want to fud, but it doesnt look good, seems coin is already dead!

nice! i will try to get it on some blogs as well once the anon is launched..

thats great! if its get approved im sure we all can send you some nav as a bounty. please send the dev a pm to verify and discuss it all

yeah i know, but selling attracts selling

but no problem, i dont blame you anything...i just was a bit frustrated that the buy walls who just recovered where gone..so sorry

at least we are at page 1 at bittrex again hehe

Hi, no problem i had the same a few weeks back. But next time would be great if instead of dumping you just add a sell order just above buy order....

but i know above sounds crazy..its a free market But buy walls where just freshly added hehe so it kinda sucks they are insta killed due to this...but no worries...they will recover again..

Wow, someone just sold a huge amount....buy support just recovered, now someone sold 6btc at once 

Well you have to understand we had some difficult times. the last months we climbed up day by day, week by week, so everybody is in a good mood. some numbers mentioned are just out of happiness...offcourse you never know where it goes to

Buy support has recoverd again, 18btc total! its stabalizing at 2000sats now, looks like we slowly going up again!

very exciting for the next couple of days till anon!

yeah dont worry new btc is on its way

seems like bot is playing big today...sells to his own coins then puts in lower buy orders...dont fall into its trap, no point in selling now..just wait for a few hours to see what happens...

seems 1600-1800 is the bottom for now... i try to catch if it dips to 1200-1300

yeah true it gives exposure, so thats a good thing But celebrating based on that, for me is a bit hard, although im also happy we are at nr 1 hehe...

lets hope it attract even more new investors! But im very happy that we managed to keep page 1 of bittrex the whole week, which was a really long time ago..

Well although volume is a bit artificial today we deserve it People are leaving paycoin and that was the only coin (and dogecoin) which had huge volume, probably some fake orders as well...

i never understand why people do this, volume isnt that important, although it gives a coin more exposure. but why pump to 80btc volume...that cost a lot of btc...20/30btc would have had the same effect...and it only last for 24 hours...bittrex wont complain

i have seen this with lots of coins, like xst as well. but it doesnt really matter much, just never trade purely on volume...

and i agree sometimes the cheeringings over the top. this is purely out of goodwill and not with bad intentions... just ignore if you dont like it...

and devs, thanks for the update! looks very promissing!

its normal that corrections take place, only difference is that you use the word "dump". Price went up from 300 to 2500, then a pump to 3500 for af few seconds...then price falls back to current level at 2000-2500, you can hardly call that a dump...

But even if you looked at the chart correctly, hope you traded that way as well. and you would be a real man, if you also post these pictures when you arent right as its easy to say "i told you so"

and i like reading all kinds of reactions, so your input is more then welcome, as long as everything is described in a normal way, and not just to fud..

cheers mate!

Robin

hehe nice graphic 

Ah bitcointalk is back online 

Good to hear everything is on schedule. @package, when can we get the update-testing report, really looking forward to that.