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501  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: September 07, 2014, 11:15:28 PM
Just to point out. The rolls started being fair soon after I posted about them on PRC and DB. And I figured the site devs had read the chart and fixed the bug. If this was the case, then clearly manl knew the reason behind that happening and was able to fix it immediately.

Also in the chat they say, they will hire someone new. Had they posted anything before today about hiring? and I thought gerry did most of the coding.
502  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: September 07, 2014, 10:12:48 PM
What manl is doing is more fucked up.

He is not refunding people who are positive in balance.  He is refunding people only those that are negative in profit(in loss)

So basically if anyone gambled before 28th and was at 10 BTC profit, and lost to this rigged shit after that will not be refunded(if he is still positive).
SO Even if You lost 9 BTC to this rigged site after 28th. Currently you will be at 1 BTC profit. This means you have left the site with profit.

And Even though you were effected due to the rigged part...you will not be getting your money back and this is wrong.






So people who just had 1 roll effected and are in net negative, will be given back their last deposit completely. And this is more wrong.
503  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: September 07, 2014, 08:22:30 PM
It also seems there was a minimum bet amount needed for the nonce to skip since in between those 0.05 bets where I found nonces skipped I also made 0.00001 bets and no nonces where skipped.

ACtually NO. After I lost big, I started bets 100 sats. And It happened every time.
This is what was happening.

http://imgur.com/tYIyCHx

And after this I was just betting 100 sats for over an hour, with 80% losing bets.
504  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: September 07, 2014, 05:54:36 PM
Dooglus because he bet 2 BTC the second time. if thats what you asked.

I mean when he bets 1 BTC and loses, why is the profit -8.9 BTC? It should be -1 BTC.

But that seems to be a separate issue - all losing bets are shown as "minus (what your profit would have been if you won)".

So that should have been a winning bet   Undecided

He meant, that profit should show -2. and not -18.7.
And yes, that was a winning bet.
505  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: September 07, 2014, 05:46:53 PM
Dooglus because he bet 2 BTC the second time. if thats what you asked.
506  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: September 07, 2014, 05:08:06 PM
Stars, Click on Randomize roll. It will pop up a small window which will show your last Server Seed .
507  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: September 07, 2014, 04:17:38 PM
Well, the whole thing happened with me. And I am sorry if I am not posting this from my original account.

So, I lost over 1.8 BTC on the DB Site at first.
It started with a losing streak of more than 70-80 @ 10%.
And then a Martingale Loss streak of 17. Followed by 1 win, and another losing streak of around 22.
I busted most of my roll there.
Initially I ignored it considering it a bad luck.
But then I started betting again.. and too my surprise, if I clicked Hi, rolls were low. And If I clicked Lo, rolls were Hi.
It wasn;t random, and I was getting Pretty bad losing streaks.  I also had a losing streak of around 25-26.

Almost after every 10 seconds, I was getting a losing streak of 10. and it was crazy. Instead of chasing my losses, I tested my bets with 100 stas bets and it felt Too much rigged than just bad luck. I ran Extremely Bad for 50 minutes. I was losing 80% of the time, and clearly wasn't just a Bad luck.
I recorded my entire session.

Once I was completely convinced, I went over to PRC and commented about this. People just thought it was a  bad run or streak .
Then to prove it to them. I asked them(Bazza and a1choi) to pick Hi or Lo .
And I did 10 rolls.

And that was when these happened:
https://i.imgur.com/qPosVOC.png
https://i.imgur.com/Jjizyvx.png
and the other links doog posted above.

One of them even suggested to try Alternate Hi  or Lo.
And it made no difference :

https://i.imgur.com/hM7T7Xv.png

I was simply losing 80-90% of my rolls.

I was pretty much convinced they were rigged. I gave my seeds to Bazza, and a small video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmwSP1lBuGY

Bazza , verified the rolls, and brought to everyone's attention. That indeed, it was clearly rigged.

For all those new to the provably fair thing:
So whenever a roll is generated it requires 2 things:
Client seed(provided by you)
and Server seed(a Secret alphanumeric by the site)

They are combined, to produce the rolls.
Everyone is free to verify their rolls on the RGBKEY Site(which you should definitely do) .

 I did verify my rolls on the sites, And Indeed they were correct. BUT I could never see the rolls not shown. I never checked if the nonces were consecutive and hence I never figured it out, until Bazza Pointed it out.
It was clear, they were skipping the winning rolls and just showing the losing one's and this was the smart part about the scam.

I am not sure how many were effected by the bug, but the only way to check that was to go to the My Bets Tab:
and Click on 2 consecutive bets(or rolls) and check if the nonces are consecutive as well. and then verify the bets.

manl the site owner might say this was not deliberate and happened because of a bug, but the main point is that only the winning bets were skipped. I think there was a Bug and a BUG in the scam which made it happen for the entire 2-3 hours for me.

The fact that it happened only on the winning rolls , and only the winning rolls were skipped clearly means it was intended that way and cannot just be a mistake. It might have happened with more users before, who might have not checked if the nonces were consecutive.  
I don't personally care what manl has to say about this, But simply because of only winning bets being skipped, the intentions were pretty obvious and questions the integrity  of the site which has over 7.5K BTC ( ~ 3.5 Million USD invested )

The site's profits also skyrocketed and were 200 BTC just this week. Even though it might be less than expected but this sudden jump is also questionable(I am not saying it certainly is) .

At the end Manl, has refunded me my loss plus a 0.2 BTC compensation. Again, everyone is free to think what they want to.








 


508  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: September 07, 2014, 04:01:12 PM
I am still writing my post.
But I think it was deliberate, and something went wrong, which made it happen much more often than intended.
509  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: September 07, 2014, 03:33:29 PM
Just make sure you are not putting in any spaces, and not pressing Enter after putting in the nonce or seeds.
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