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501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: March 05, 2018, 05:05:22 PM
Since this thread is about the legacy r9 290s.

What do you guys mine with the Elpida memory ones?

ZEC seems to hang the system even at stock settings.

ETH is good at 29mh/s but very difficult to undervolt and maintain stability.


R9 290 is a ton better at ETH than ZEC - bios mod them with one of TheStilt undervolt bios helps a ton on dropping temps, stability, and lowering power usage.

1100 core is WAY overkill for ETH mining on them - 900-950 seems to be about the most you need for max hashrate AND drops power consumption quite a bit.


Might vary a bit if you have aftermarket cards - mine are Sapphire reference models, and seem to be optimal on ETH mining at 1250 memory clock (1300 LOWERS hashrate and much higher gets unstable).

502  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: March 04, 2018, 08:35:50 PM
Yes brand new ones for $130. He was setting up 290s and I bought one. It's new with some scratches from shipping. Even gpus run in a filtered environment will have a tiny layer of dust, this was new as far as I can tell.

Could it be leftover chips back when AMD over ordered 290s...? who knows.

Do those undervolt easily with afterburner, or do you need to do bios mods?  I was mining before the r9 series and after the r9 series, but I don't have much experience at all with that generation of GPUs from a mining perspective.

I believe you need to do BIOS mod - but I don't run mine on Windows so not sure.
The Stilt made a series of modded BIOS for these for use with Litecoin/Scrypt mining, those BIOS do a very good job of dropping power usage and allowing for a lot more overclock or a lot lower temperatures.


503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Folding At Home With Medic Coin Earn Big Money with your GPUs on: March 04, 2018, 08:33:39 PM

Edit 2: Oh I also forget that any USB cannot exceed 500MB/s. Thunderbolt can, USB cannot, so really even if its reporting being in a 3.0 Slot, its more like 1x 2.0.

High quality USB CABLES can easily exceed that, when not used for actual USB service.

Don't confuse the "usage spec" with the "hardware spec", like folks using "PCI-E 6 pin connections" to power ASIC miners sometimes do.

504  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Wattman sucks! Can OverdriveNTool completely replace the need for Wattman? on: March 04, 2018, 08:29:58 PM
Don't know when they changed from .rar to .7z but I find BOTH of those formats irritating and worthless in today's computing environment.

They made SOME SENSE back when DIALUP was the norm for file transfer and they could literally save minutes off of a transfer, but they're a total waste of time and effort TODAY when they might be lucky to save *A SECOND* off the file transfer time but waste a LOT more time than that dealing with the file itself.

505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Folding At Home With Medic Coin Earn Big Money with your GPUs on: March 03, 2018, 09:56:45 PM

Let us know when you manage to get listed on a MAJOR exchange - I've never even heard OF any of those exchanges before now.

Not "zero" like the post you were replying said, but pretty bloody close.


It shouldn't be hard to set up ability to merge fold with Curecoin - just kill the "need to be on OUR team" requirement.
Merge-folding with Foldingcoin is going to be a lot tougher, since you both require wallet address as part of your name.

506  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Folding At Home With Medic Coin Earn Big Money with your GPUs on: March 03, 2018, 09:51:19 PM
Well I did some reading and it seems like the project is doom to fail. Instead of piggy backing on curecoin, the Mediccoin is forcing people to mine a shitcoin in the hopes that in a few years it will be worth something. The key to mass adoption is have exchange support and a good wallet. This has neither. I found a critical flaw in the wallet. You cannot see your private key so you are SOL if the wallet isn't backed up. Even those backup files don't work half the time. NO private key - NO GO!


Cons-

None existent exchange support.
No Private Key (Wallet)
Must choose between Curecoin AND FDCL or This.....

I'm sorry but this coin is extremely flawed. Time to switch back to something I can ACTUALLY SELL!

Pardon my french, but you are a fucking idiot.  Why would any new coin piggyback on another one?  Of course if you must choose between this or another coin.  This is no different than literally mining anything.  Curecoin is on only 2 exchanges, as it FLDC.  If you want to compare wallets, Curecoin's didn't even have a feature to display your staking status until 6 months ago.  Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Because it offers a LOT MORE SUPPORT FOR FOLDING if this coin could be cooperative with the LONG STANDING Curecoin and Foldincoin initiatives - which have supported "merge folding" for years.
A LOT of coins support "merge mining" - reference DOGE for the best-known example.

Since the STATED objective of all 3 coins is to "support Folding@Home", it is a lot more logical for all of them to WORK TOGETHER as opposed to your "of course" MUST CHOOSE BETWEEN them idiocy as being able to get all *3* for folding work gives a lot more incentive for more folks to DO folding.


You CAN use USB risers in folding, but higher-end cards suffer a significant performance hit if you do so, ballpark 25-30% in some brief testing I've done on my Aorus GTX 1080 ti cards.
If you were seeing 500k on one, you either had a "pain" work unit type or there was something else limiting the card, even on a USB riser I normally see more like 800-900k on most work units (vs 1.2M AND UP on most work units on non-riser setups).
The hit is less on lower end cards, but still noticeable.

On the positive side, a riser-type rig is a LOT easier to keep cool, and USB risers are INFINITELY easier to work with than multiple "16x ribbon" type risers.

One REAL CPU core per GPU is definitely needed - "hyper-threaded" cores need not apply they can't keep up with higher-end cards and WILL throttle your performance badly.
More than one core per GPU does not help, as the folding client isn't coded to use more than one CPU core per "thread" and it runs one "thread" per GPU core.
If you DO have spare cores, you can use those for other stuff though - like folding on them or XMR mining.
Even REAL cores are starting to get marginal sometimes - I was doing some testing once on a G-series Pentium (G4560 or G4600 forget which offhand) and a single 1080 ti was loading one "real" core on that to over 90% average, and I THINK I was taking a small PPD hit on the GPU even so.

For 12 1080 ti cards in a rig, 12+ real core Threadripper or 12+ real core recent Intel server CPU are the only viable options for full PPD - but you're going to be impacted by USB risers as well even WITH enough CPU power.





507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Folding At Home With Medic Coin Earn Big Money with your GPUs on: March 03, 2018, 09:36:30 PM
And if even ONE big folder starts hitting up your coin, your profitability will drop to near nothing.

Less than 4 million PPD is not a big folder, I was pulling more like 20 million the last month I folded, and I've added quite a few Nvidia GPUs since then.
Last time I checked the top folder was pulling over 70 million PPD.

I count it as poor design that you force folks to fold on your team - that destroys any possibility of merge folding with CureCoin (conflicting team requirements) or FoldingCoin (conflicting coin address requirements).



Well if you follow the Curecoin logic (which I admit I never quite understood), the more folding power, the more valuable the coin should be.  The Curecoin people would also come unglued if another project suddenly started merged folding with fldc.  Its been awhile since I've checked prices but I seem to remember at some people last year the fldc earnings were more than the cure earnings.  I admit the original title was a little bombastic but I think OP's heart is in the right place.  Curecoin has languished for years and their dev is the top folder.  Not to say that Medic Coin is better or worse, but nice to see an alternative at least.

p.s.  I think its ironic that another folding coin suffers from the same exact problem as curecoin;  A shitty website and confusing pool instructions!

Ballpark half of last year the Foldingcoin income was more than the Curecoin income - part of that was Curecoin went though it's first "halfing" somewhere in that year.
I never understood the "more folding = more coin value" BS out of Vorshalk either.
When he decided to bring hig HUGE farm online, it ticked off a lot of long-time folders and put a serious HURT on the profitability of folding.


508  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! on: March 03, 2018, 08:56:34 PM
Are u guys using the included asus b250 software in windows?

My board has never seen Windows.
509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! on: March 03, 2018, 08:55:49 PM
I would not experiment, if you can avoid that kind of stuff just go with school examples.
It should work because two PSU should be on same voltage potential but you never know what could happen if one PSU fails.
 

Not voltage potential, its called same power phase, if not then everything burns.

There is no "phase" to DC.
Different power supplies WILL have slightly different voltage outputs though, usually.
510  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain Antminer S11 Speculation on: March 03, 2018, 08:51:54 PM
I would not be shocked if Bitmain moved to Samsung's "10nm" process for their S11 model, since TSMC seems to be a fair bit behind the curve right now (and the TSMC "7nm" process is going to be very very close on performance to the current Samsung and Intel "10nm" processes) while Samsung seems to be actually in production (abet small-scale so far) on their 10nm process.

I do have some question if a process designed for "low power applications" like smartphones is going to handle the high-power-density requirement of a cryptocoin mining ASIC well.

511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: March 03, 2018, 08:40:36 PM
Has anyone had hashrates affected by CPU performance?

I have been helping my friend out on a GPU farm project of his, he owns a board game shop and in the past had 2 generic computers in the back that people would use with CCboot and HandyCafe software to charge them for the time they spent on the computers ($0.50/hr), these computers were not very powerful so most games it couldnt run past low settings and most people used them to play overwatch, but his computers were tied up 95% of the time due to school students being dropped off by parents after school and during the summer, so he wanted to expand this side of his business to increase the profits, so we setup 6 new computers with 1950x's w/ 4 x 1080ti's on each rig that he previously had mining at his home in open air mining rigs.

we found moving the GPU's over to the new motherboards, and running them on the same exact settings they previously ran at, we are seeing between 8-10% increase in total hashpower compared to previously on motherboards running cheap celeron cpu's

He is keeping the old dell computers at $0.50/hr, but placing the new rigs at $1.00/hr to see if it deters people from using them at that price or not and setting the new rigs up so they only have the most recent new games on them....

If your curious why he charges so little, its because he writes off the computers on his taxes under Section 179 and has been able to get 100% of what he spent on them back, he makes most of his money at his business from selling snacks, sodas, board games/figurenes, and card game cards....

If the Celerons were low-end single core models, I could see some potential for driver + Windows overhead choking performance a bit.

I thought about doing sometime similar back when I ran a "place to play games" in Indianapolis, but never had enough money to invest into the idea.

512  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: March 03, 2018, 08:36:46 PM

Ya the server route is super useful, i did away with using the cheap Chinese cables.. had to many run super warm due to loose connections, not looking for another melted connector event to occur.... i have gone to soldering everything except for the ends that plug into the GPU's, i bought a bulk amount of pcie connectors and pins for those connections and i solder each pin on instead of just crimping them on... my last build i did, i used breakout boards that i soldered the wires to the pins on the breakout board and ran the wires to wiring blocks, then to all the connections, even ran the extra 12v computer fans off the 12v power of the server psu that route for a while. ever since i switch to securing everything better, i have had way way less issues using the risers now.. between using strips of wood clamping the gpu to the riser and hot glue on every connection.. the random lockups and restarts kinda went away.


If you're not flexing the cables a lot, crimp + solder is a GOOD idea.

If you ARE flexing the cables a lot, the solder will tend to break eventually and can cause issues, but that should not be the case in a GPU rig - we're talking typically many thousands of lifetime flexes, not a dozen or less for install + occasional troubleshooting.

513  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: March 03, 2018, 08:32:26 PM
Hey, Just an update.

Ive been getting the XMR side of my batch set up, and am 2/3 done syncing the blockchain, to see if I can add the CPU side as well (using the command-line version of the wallet daemon)...  I figured nanopool is the smartest and most used choice; so it will be the only supported pool until the demand for others or more configurability is needed from the masses when I finish the batch.  Hopefully if the monero thing goes as I hope it will, you may be able to add the option for mining XMR directly to your own wallet instead of a pool.  Should be simple I would think.  The hard part will be people installing the wallet and knowing what port/IP to put into my config files.

Next will come the ETH side;   Would you guys prefer I use claymore or another app for the RX cards?  (does DTSM[DSTM?] support AMD?)  I plan to add support for the equihash port on zpool to begin with.


XMR-Stak - don't wast time with any wallet "miner".
DSTM is ZEC not ETH - not sure if it supports AMD as I'm not mining (currently) with any of my AMD cards except part-time on the Vega (it replaced one of my Aorus 1080 ti cards in my "gaming" system).



As an update to my upcomming "Mark 2" shelf design, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zrfLmpqX4lfY_l4tMxriiZoWb4ZNYfSQ/view?usp=sharing which is where that Aorus (and my 2 others) went.
It's a special setup due to the huge size of the AORUS cards and their high power draw compared to most of my cards.
The power supply is short enough it would normally be mounted all the way to the left and still clear the "support" shelves, but the AORUS is long enough the right card needed extra clearance.

Basic idea is I redesigned the shelf support structure to be free-standing, then the shelves just slide in and out - and I added a 7'th "special rig" shelf.

Basic concept electrically is still to feed one "shelf unit" from a NEMA 14-30 drop cord (or functional equivalent), run 6 rigs split between 3 15-amp 117 VAC circuits (limited to appx. 6 amps per rig), then run a 7'th "high power" rig on the same circuit with the fans/LAN switch/monitor/Small LED-type or compact flourescent light.

Balance between the "hot" legs won't be quite as good as on the original 6 shelf design, but it uses more of the circuit without overdrawing it and the imbalance should be less than 3 amps with the fans on low (less if I have to crank the fans up at all).

It also gives me a place to put my current "high power" cards and lets me add more (like Vega cards) in the future for "special projects" or "special usages".

I'm figuring on having the first actual "rack unit" put together sometime this week, got all the boards cut for it just gotta put it together - not sure if I'm going to go ahead and wire it, but probably (I have a spare panel and plenty of spare outlets to use).
514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU'S on: March 03, 2018, 08:05:18 PM
Other than the Aorus "Thunderbolt Box" models and that MSI blower model 1070 ti with the VERY POOR cooling, anything 1070 and up listed at Newegg BY NEWEGG has been selling out very quickly.
There have been several RX 570/580 models that have been listed for 2-3 days before they sell out though, and usually at least a half dozen "newegg" sales listings on those at any given point the last 2 weeks.

Availability does seem to be showing a SLIGHT improvement, but pricing is still high probably at least partly due to the RAM shortage/pricing issue.
515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Help, Air Filters! on: March 03, 2018, 07:58:22 PM
Setting filters will not help you to avoid dust. During the operation of the cooling fans, the blades friction against the air. This leads to the magnetization. All the dust from the premises will be there. Remember the screens of old TVs? They were always in the dust. I recommend you not to restrict air flow into the room. Use a vacuum cleaner more often.

Positive pressure of FILTERED air in the room will reduce dust levels quite a bit.
It's not a 100% cure, but it's a LOT better than nothing.

It's also nice if you live in an area that gets smoke at times (last summer in Central Washington was BAD) to be able to BREATH.


The "increase filter area" idea is a sensible one - it's one of the reasons most large commercial installations use 4" filers, they have that "V" built into them.
Better yet, make it a 4 or 5 sided "box" of filters on the intake (4 if the fan is against the floor, a wall, or the ceiling, 5 otherwise).

516  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Help Best GPU for mining x13 on: March 02, 2018, 08:18:49 PM
Hi,

Whats the best gpu for mining x13 Algorithm,

Thanks !!

None.

The original Baikal ASIC supported X13 mining.

I don't think the current ones do but not sure there.
517  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Can a bad graphics card crash windows? new to mining problem on: March 02, 2018, 08:16:12 PM
Depends on what is wrong with the GPU, most commonly a bad GPU won't even let Windows boot at all but SOMETIMES it's only sorta-bad and CAN crash Windows.

MOST blue screens are software issues but not always - a GPU that is overclocked a LITTLE too high can cause a bluescreen once it warms up enough.



518  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! on: March 02, 2018, 08:14:09 PM
If you use powered risers, you don't need to use the MOLEX at all.
Then there is no question of "which PS should be attached to which MOLEX" on the MB.

519  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best GPU For mining?? on: March 02, 2018, 08:12:44 PM
Bitcoin has not been mineable with GPUs for YEARS.
Go try the altcoin section.
520  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 1050ti VS antminer s5 well>>>>>>>> on: March 02, 2018, 08:02:40 PM
The S5 is *2 GENERATION OLD* technology for the cryptocoin that has by far the most competition.
Even with very cheap electric it is a money LOSER today.

The 1050ti is a CURRENT GENERATION, abet low-end, GPU - and GPU mining right now is a lot more profitable in many respects than ASIC mining.

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