Just made another strange discovery... tried running that exact same .bat file on my other PC (windows 7 Ultimate vs Pro is main difference, other than being much older than my mining rig).  Even though i repeated the exact same Admin/permissions procedure that worked on my mining rig, I can't seem to get permission to run as admin on this personal PC. BUT... when I launched not as Admin, it started in slow mode and actually connected to moneropool and was pulling 200 H/s (30% faster than MinerGate and in slow mode!).  So, assuming I can get the permissions fixed to run in fast mode, I will be good on this PC, but now even more baffled as to why this won't work on my mining rig running the exact same code!  Is it possible that the port 3333 is causing an issue since that is what Claymore GPU miner uses?  But, I have all other miners shut down when trying to get CPU miner working, so doesn't seem that is it... plus I have not heard anyone say you cannot use Claymore's GPU & CPU miners concurrently, so assuming you can.

So, given that this problem does not seem to have to do with the content of my bat file, does anyone have any suggestions of what to check to resolve the connection error?

OK... so, I was able to fix the Run as Admin issue by setting the .exe file to run as Admin by default in the advanced properties.  Then when I run the .bat file, the window pops up and starts running.

2 things to note is that it indeed said Fast Mode Enabled, and "scfg: 1" showed up where it was 0 previously.  So, that piece seems to be go to go, but I am still getting that "failed to connect" error.

Can anyone help with this?  I even recreated my .bat file again from scratch to make sure I had copied in everything correctly, but it still did not work. Here it is again in case someone notices something that is off.  Also note that i have NOT changed anything in any other file in the Claymore folder (like the the pools.txt file). Maybe I am supposed to?

NsCpuCNMiner64.exe -o stratum+tcp://mine.moneropool.com:3333 -u 46shm7maKo9Ev35kJiAoW6ZsWSxGWkNeuBrfgcN49g9KKWQe7yE513SGRiqsdea1uG9T1xFDFH3inMS G7hrKW2oMHGrTDez -p x


Any advice would be highly appreciated as I am eager to get this thing running.




14:43:32:328   1598   
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14:43:32:328   1598   บ            Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner  v3.5 Beta            บ
14:43:32:328   1598   ศออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออผ
14:43:32:531   1598   64-bit version
14:43:32:531   1598   CPU supports AES-NI - faster mining!
14:43:32:531   1598   Logical CPU cores: 12
14:43:32:531   1598   Number of threads: Autoselection...
14:43:32:531   1598   Using 6 threads
14:43:32:531   1598   scfg: 1
14:43:32:531   1598   3 pools specified.
14:43:32:547   1598   Press "m" key for tune mode.
14:43:32:562   1448   Stratum - connecting to 'mine.moneropool.com' <138.201.31.14> port 3333
14:43:32:562   1448   Stratum - Cannot connect  to mine.moneropool.com port 3333
14:43:32:562   1448   Stratum - Failed to connect, retry in 20 sec...
14:43:52:577   1068   Stratum - connecting to 'mine.moneropool.com' <138.201.31.12> port 3333
14:43:52:577   1448   Stratum - Cannot connect  to mine.moneropool.com port 3333
14:43:52:577   1068   DevFee: Stratum - Failed to connect, retry in 20 sec...
14:44:02:655   1598   watchdog - thread 0, hb time 78
14:44:02:655   1598   watchdog - thread 1, hb time 78
14:44:02:655   1598   watchdog - thread 2, hb time 78
14:44:02:655   1598   watchdog - thread 3, hb time 78
14:44:02:655   1598   watchdog - thread 4, hb time 78
14:44:02:655   1598   watchdog - thread 5, hb time 78
14:44:12:592   1068   Stratum - connecting to 'mine.moneropool.com' <138.201.31.12> port 3333
14:44:12:592   1448   Stratum - Cannot connect  to mine.moneropool.com port 3333
14:44:12:592   1068   DevFee: Stratum - Failed to connect, retry in 20 sec...

Useless comment. The fact is that the vast majority of miners are doing GPU only, so of course it makes sense for Claymore to concentrate on updating his GPU miners as a relative very high priority over CPU. Just look at the number of pages of this thread (15) vs the 337 on his GPU dual miner thread and that should give you an idea.

Hello everyone... I have been using Claymore's dual GPU miner to mine ETH the past few weeks and really like it! Great HR improvement over the MinerGate that I was previously using briefly while I learned more about mining.

So, now I decided to start using Claymore's CPU miner, as I have 2 PC's that can make use of this.  I downloaded to file, got it past my anti-virus and proceeded with config by adding my Monero wallet address and my choice of pool (moneropool.com).  However, once I try to launch the .bat file, the command window only briefly appears then disappears.

I am on Windows 7 Pro x64, running an i7-6800k on a ASRock x99 extreme4 Mobo.

Here is what I did so far:

1- Modified .bat file by only replacing placeholder Monero Wallet Address with mine and adding in the "o-" for my pool. My .bat file now looks like this:

NsCpuCNMiner64.exe -o stratum+tcp://mine.moneropool.com:3333 -u 46shm7maKo9Ev35kJiAoW6ZsWSxGWkNeuBrfgcN49g9KKWQe7yE513SGRiqsdea1uG9T1xFDFH3inMS G7hrKW2oMHGrTDez -p x

2- First i tried just running the .bat file, but got the error saying that RAM needed to be cleared and program needed to be Run as Admin the first time.

3- Rebooted machine, right-clicked on pool64bit.bat file and selected "Run as Admin". This is where I get the command window  popping up briefly but then it disappears.  I suspect this might have to do with the fact that I am running only the .bat file as Admin but it of course launches the .exe (I guess not as Admin?).  Not sure how to do this so that it also launches the .exe as Admin.  I tried doing that outright but it of course does not work since the parameters needed come from the .bat file.

4- I launched the .bat file again (after another reboot) just regular, not as Admin.  The same RAM/Admin error message came up but this time I let it run and start in slow mode.  But, even that seems to not be working. This is what the log shows:

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15:33:12:933   1508   º            Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner  v3.5 Beta            º
15:33:12:933   1508   ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍͼ
15:33:13:136   1508   64-bit version
15:33:13:136   1508   CPU supports AES-NI - faster mining!
15:33:13:136   1508   Logical CPU cores: 12
15:33:13:136   1508   Number of threads: Autoselection...
15:33:13:136   1508   Using 6 threads
15:33:13:136   1508   scfg: 0
15:33:28:143   1508   3 pools specified.
15:33:28:143   1508   Press "m" key for tune mode.
15:33:28:237   1064   Stratum - connecting to 'mine.moneropool.com' <138.201.31.14> port 3333
15:33:28:393   1064   Stratum - Cannot connect  to mine.moneropool.com port 3333
15:33:28:393   1064   DevFee: Stratum - Failed to connect, retry in 20 sec...
15:33:28:408   b68   Stratum - Cannot connect  to mine.moneropool.com port 3333
15:33:28:408   b68   Stratum - Failed to connect, retry in 20 sec...
15:33:48:407   1064   Stratum - connecting to 'mine.moneropool.com' <138.201.31.14> port 3333
15:33:48:407   1064   Stratum - Cannot connect  to mine.moneropool.com port 3333
15:33:48:407   1064   DevFee: Stratum - Failed to connect, retry in 20 sec...
15:33:48:423   b68   Stratum - connecting to 'mine.moneropool.com' <138.201.31.14> port 3333
15:33:48:423   b68   Stratum - Cannot connect  to mine.moneropool.com port 3333
15:33:48:423   b68   Stratum - Failed to connect, retry in 20 sec...
15:33:58:251   1508   watchdog - thread 0, hb time 78
15:33:58:251   1508   watchdog - thread 1, hb time 78
15:33:58:251   1508   watchdog - thread 2, hb time 78
15:33:58:251   1508   watchdog - thread 3, hb time 78
15:33:58:251   1508   watchdog - thread 4, hb time 78
15:33:58:251   1508   watchdog - thread 5, hb time 78

So, my first question is, how can I get this to run as Admin the first time? 

Secondly, is the "can't connect" error above a separate problem? If so, what is likely the issue there?

I thought this would be easy since Im already using Claymore Dual GPU miner, but once again, I feel like a clueless rookie lol.

Any suggestions would be highly appreciated!

Thanks for the feedback so far on this issue... indeed, this Mobo has no on-board graphics so nothing to try to tweak on that end.  I posted on the ASRock forums yesterday about this too but haven't got anything promising from there as of yet... so, still interested in any recommendations as for what to try.  I have another USB riser coming in a few days so will try that but I have a feeling it is something more complex than that, so any suggestions would be appreciated.

On another note, I wanted to share an additional issue I encountered with my rig over the last day or so... yesterday afternoon, I decided to add an old un-used 3TB internal HDD to my mining rig to add to my Burst-coin mining power. This thing had been laying around for a few years but installed fine with no issues. Shortly after installing it, I started playing with the power settings on my GPUs as I was pretty confident I still had some room to cut wattage and maybe increase HR on a couple of them.  I tried inching down/up a little at a time but nothing was stable... even in places where I was 90% sure I had some decent room to tweak. After several hours of this I got frustrated and just set everything back to what I had been stable for 24-48 hours at, thinking it would run fine overnight.  Unfortunately, when I checked my rig this morning, it had been offline since about 20 minutes after I went to bed the night before. I was headed to work so I just eliminated the voltage offset adjustments and set the overclocks lower than usual.  But, sure enough, it only ran less than an hour before crashing again.  When I got home for lunch, I looked at the Clyamore log for the morning and though I don't understand everything in there, I did not see anything that led me to beleive and 1 GPU was causing an issue. Usually, when 1 of my GPUs crashes my system, it will just stop mining while the other 3 continue, meaning i will usually see the HR for it reflected as 0.00 in Claymore. I did not see this in the logs so it got me wondering.

Since nothing else had changed on my system other than installing the 3TB HDD. I decided to unplug it and try again.  Sure enough (knock on wood), I have been up and running for almost 5 hours straight since then... not quite back up to where I was at before but somewhere in between that and flat settings. So, it seems apparent that the HDD was causing the crashes... not sure why... maybe it's just a bad drive from the start or sitting around for 3+ years caused some issue. But it seems strange to me that my system recognized it, formatted it.. I even created new folders on it. 

Anyway, yet another lesson learned on my part. I think i will just stick with adding external HDDs to this system. I already have one 5TB drive on it with no issues so will probably add a few more. They are easier to install, don't draw much from my PSU (which I will need if I can ever get that 5th GPU working) and they are inexplicably cheaper than the internal SATA drives.

Whether Claymore makes $100/month or $100k/month on his dev fees is a completely moot point.  If he provides a product that is better than most or all of the competition, then he is ahead of the curve and in a free market economy, those who are able to produce something that the majority of any segment prefer earn the right to be successful financially... plain and simple.

Furthermore, he is absolutely correct that 1% fee cannot even be felt by almost all miners, even more so if he were to cut that fee from 1% to .5%.  Do you realize what a minuscule amount that equates to?  If that small amount really makes that big a difference to you I submit that you shouldn't be into mining at all lol.

Bottom line is that Claymore's miners seem to provide better Hash-rates than all or most other miners.  So, logically speaking, nobody should have an issue with the 1% fee. I could make a case that 1% is actually too low in fact, since my hash-rates are 10-15% better with his miners.

OK... so, I attempting to add this 5th GPU (Nitro 470 8GB) to my rig last night and it simply did not work. I tried a variety of different cables and connectors... the one exception being the 1x to 16x USB powered extender/riser because I don't have any extra of those at this time.

Here's the scenario... my other 4 GPU's (MSI 470 4GB) had been running stable for close to 2 days. So, yesterday, I power down, unplug everything, and hook up the Nitro. Note that the molex & 8-pin PCIe power hooked up to this card should not be the problem because they are using the 2nd connector on the same cables that are hooked up to my 4th MSI 470.

Everything looks good but when I turn the power back on, I cannot even get the machine to boot up.  When I power on, everything starts spinning and lighting up as usual, including the new Nitro (fans spinning and lights on). However, after a few seconds (before even the mobo bios options hit the screen), it stops and restarts itself. It does this in a non-stop loop until I power it off. I tried multiple times (changing connectors, etc) but got the exact same thing every time.

I'm assuming many of you have probably seen or heard of this behavior before, so I would be looking for some opinions on likely causes.  I am already going to order another 1-2 powered risers to make sure that is not the issue, but aside from that, is there anything else to try/check to trouble-shoot this?  I have a really bad feeling that it could be that this is just one of those Mobos (ASRock x99 Extreme 4) that just won't work with more than 4 GPU's.

One final bit of info... this PCIe slot was the one that I had previously tried with 1 of my MSI's but was only getting the dreaded 4 Mh/s.  I had not tried another card in that slot until last night. Not sure that could be related to this non-booting issue, but thought I would mention it just in case.

edit1:  forgot to mention that once I unplugged the Nitro, by rig booted up fine and is back to normal.

Hey Lone... finally a question I can contribute a decent answer to lol   

So, with my rig, I initially intended to plug it right into my wireless router, which is in my garage. However, after I got it up and running, my system would not recognize the connection. I tried 3 different Cat5 cables that I knew worked but to no avail. Luckily, I had an old USB Wi-Fi stick that I used to use in a since died PC.  Once I plugged that in, I connected to the internet right away and have not gone back to re-diagnose why I couldn't get my hard-wired connection working because my mining seems to be inline with that others are getting.

Case in point... after applying the strapping mod to all 4 of my RX470 GPUs, I am getting pretty much right at the 28 Mh/s per card that others who have modded similar cards in this manner.  I have also been able to mine XMR through MinerGate and BURST on my HDDs at what appear to be average or normal rates. So, based on this, it seems that there is essentially no difference between hard-wire connection and wi-fi.  Granted, my rig is literally 2 feet from my router, but I think this would be the case for you as well, so I would certainly think it would work just as well.

Hello everyone... I have what is probably a really stupid question but here goes anyway lol...

I just received the 2 Sapphire Nitro+ RX470 8GB today and getting ready to try 1 out in the last slot of my rig already running 4 MSI 470 4GBs.  My question has to do with the drivers... am I correct that I should NOT need to update/install drivers to use a different branding 470, since they are both AMD/Radeon?  I already have the latest Crimson 16.9.2 package and its working fine on my MSI cards, so don't wanna mess with the drivers unless absolutely necessary to get the Sapphire card up and running.

I assume that I will have to install whatever the Sapphire equivalent to MSI's Afterburner is though in order to be able to tweak the clock speeds, etc... is that correct?

Wow! So, you lost a full 4 Mh/s going from Eth-only to dual with the modded bios?  I will still test mine but if it's anywhere near that kind of drop it won't be worth dual mining at all. 

That is very interesting that you would actually get more HR on ETH in dual mining mode.  About 2 weeks ago, I started using CDM with 4 MSI RX470s mining ETH & DCR. My ETH speed was bad at only 20.5 and no settings I could tweak within CDM would increase it at all... until I disabled dual mode but even then it only increased to 20.7.  But, my power draw was cut by over 100 watts by not mining the DCR, so I left it turned off since then.  However, a few days ago I finally modded the bios on my 470's and tweaked down their power consumption. I still have some testing to do but have been running stable for 36 hours now with 27+ average per GPU.

What I have been wondering, and will probably test soon, is if that extra power draw of dual mining will now be minimal due to my modded GPUs. It would be really nice if this were the case... if I could turn DCR mining back on with only maybe a 20-30 increase in wattage, it would be well worth it. But, if it still adds 100+ watts to my system, it won't really pencil out due to the extra heat, stress on GPUs and the fact that after adding a 5th card to my rig this week, I would be pushing 800W already (on a 1000w PSU) and don't really want that thing running over 900.

True, only 4 jacks but I think it includes 4 PCIe cables that each have 2 connectors... so a total of 8 possible PCIe connections... same as the 1000W version, correct?

I think the potential problem for me though is again going to be the lack of enough molex cables, since this one also only appears to come with 1 3-port cable and 1 2-port cable... and one has to be plugged into the Mopo.  I guess the only way around this is to go with a build with the ribbon type risers vs powered USB.  I know some people don't seem to like those but it seems like Aries used them very successfully on his MSI 470 rig, so maybe I will give that a shot. Seems like a much cleaner (and probably cheaper) build that way if I can get it to work.

Just wanted to mention that NewEgg has the Rosewill Quark Series 1200W Platinum PSU on special for just $120 after rebate (newegg credit i think). I have been using the 1KW model of this for about a month and found it to be excellent quality, performance and very low fan noise. This seems like a great PSU for a 6-card build, so I will be picking one up before this sale ends. Thought that others on this thread might be interested in this deal.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182354&cm_re=1200w_power_supply-_-17-182-354-_-Product

Thanks for the extra tips... I went ahead and modded GPU #2 shortly after and it ran perfectly at 28.4 for about an hour.  #3 appeared ok at first but but crashed after about 5 minutes, so I reduced the amount of power offset in WattTool by a couple and it was working fine for 30+ minutes so I went to #4.  This one caused me some problems though... crashed my system about 2-3 minutes after starting Claymore. So, like #3, made the power offset # lower. Ran for 5 minutes, crashed my system. It was getting late and I didn't want the rig offline overnight, so I ended up reducing the power offset of all 4 cards by bit as well as going to 1950, 1950, 1900 & 1850 on the clock speeds and Core clock up to 1175 on the latter 2. This ended up cutting my total HR from 113 to 108 and not as power efficient but it has now been running steady for 9 straight hours, so I'm happy with that.  I expect that if I spend a few more hours fine tuning each card, I can improve somewhat, but even as it stands, it's still a very nice 30% bump in HR from where I was at 2 days ago!

There are 2 things that really frustrate me in all of this... first, the fact that WattMan/Afterburner settings are reset after every reboot. Very annoying and time-consuming. Is there any way to fix this?

In addition, I am going crazy over tracking which card is which, since all 4 are identical models. Luckily I made some notes a few days ago that compare what device #'s they show up as in AfterBurner and Claymore, but those are different from the true system device #s and with new tools like GPU-Z, etc., it seems like a huge pain to try to determine which card is which. Does anyone have trick for tracking this effectively?

Nope... MSI 470 4GB     But i had posted earlier that I have 2 470 Sapphire Nitro 8GB on the way from NewEgg.  Now after seeing these results, that may have been a bad purchase since they were $30 more than the MSIs I am using (although 8GB vs 4GB).  I honestly thought I would only be able to get my MSIs up to ~25 Mh/s, which is why I wanted to try the Nitros, which have a much higher effective memory clock (8000 vs 6700).  Call me crazy but even with that factor in their favor, I have a hard time believing they will be able achieve 32+ Mh/s after modding (which is what they would need to do to offset the 15% higher cost vs the MSIs) but who knows... several users are indicating that these are much more like a 480 but with less power draw.  Bottom line, I will open 1 and install it in my 5th slot and see what it will do. If it's not notably better than the MSI, i will probably just return the 2nd one.

BIG shout-out to Aries for providing the detailed instructions for maximizing effectiveness of the MSI 470s!

I just modded 1 of my 4 GPUs based on your instructions and amazingly, am now getting a whopping 28.4 Mh/s from it, at the same power draw from when it was getting 20.7!  You were spot on on your speed predictions at each step... i got to 23.5 after the 1500 strapping, then 28.4 after setting 2000 & 1150 in afterburner! I actually forgot to go in and reset my previous WattTool adjustments, so my custom negative power offsets per each card were still in place when I made these mods, but it still worked just perfectly!

It was so great to launch Claymore and see that 28.4 number pop up for the modded GPU, so thanks again for these great tips!  Probably should be a sticky topic somewhere since that's a HUGE gain from out of the box!

2 quick questions regarding modding my other 3 GPUs...

1- How long should I wait to make sure the modded GPU is stable?  If it was going to brick, would it have done it immediately? Or, is there a recommended waiting time to make sure of stability before flashing the other GPUs?

2- In the strapping process, I made a copy of the card's bios then modded it as instructed and saved as a new file to flash with.  My question is, can I skip this part of the process for the other 3 and just continue to use the modded bios copy from the original modded card?  Basically I am asking if the settings in the bios will be exactly the same for every GPU?  They are all the exact same model so I am assuming yes, but want to make sure before proceeding.

Thanks again!

I have to agree on at least that part of the MSI cards... VERY quiet and 3 of my 4 seem to run extremely cool so far (and the 4th not too bad). I also really love the design... they just have a very cool look, which works well for my open air rig.  Now if I can just get them running faster life will be even better

I also just ordered 2 Saphhire Nitro+ RX 470 8GB. They seem to be highly recommended for mining due to their effective memory clock being 8000 as compared to the 6700 of the MSI 4GB & 8GB for that matter.  Plus, they are $10 off until Wed at NewEgg so had to pull the trigger lol.  So, the plan is to try 1 of these in the 5th and final slot on my current rig so I can compare it directly with my MSI's.

Thanks a million Aries! I really appreciate you taking the time to writing all that out and providing the screen shots too!  This will help me immensely!  I hope to take a crack at this tomorrow as today was way too long a work day.  I suspect I won't be able to get 28 out of my cards since they were clearly slower than yours out of the box, but I would gladly take anything above 26 at similar power draw. Thanks again for all the support!

hmmm... me thinks "Fake Currency" = "Damn! I do not hold any of xxx coin that has shot up over 20x in the past few weeks" lol 

Yes, those are truly amazing results Aries! Although I have to admit, it's a bit frustrating for me using the exact same GPUs and only currently getting 20.7 vs your 28.3 at essentially the same wattage.  I did about 2-3 hours of experimenting yesterday after finally funding a place to download WattTool.  I do really like that app as it's easier to change parameters vs AMD WattMan.

The first thing I tried was your recommended -15 setting. Unfortunately, this ended up crashing my system, but I figure it was probably because I tried implementing that reduction on top of my previous WattMan tweaks of lowering the GPU mV in states 6 & 7.  Once all Wattman settings were reset after reboot, the -15 took fine and put me at about 600W vs the 625 i was at with the state 6 & 7 reductions in place.  I took the further step of micro adjusting this setting in WattTool, depending on the specific card's power hungriness. So, instead of -15 across the board, I am now at something like -18, -13, -14, -17... resulting in about another 10W savings.

I didn't attempt the 1500 strapping yet as I was a bit frustrated after 2-3 hours of downtime, but will take a crack at it after my HDD is finished plotting 2TB BurstCoin, which will probably be tomorrow.  Plus, I did have a couple questions before moving to that so...

1- Does the order matter? Meaning, can I strap-mod my GPUs with the -15 power tweak already applied in WattTool? Or, do I need to set that back to zero before attempting?

2- Regarding the strapping method you used... was it the one in this video by Lee at IMineBlocks?  Just want to make sure since we have the exact same GPUs, I would like to use the same method since it worked great for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP_zSP2H6ho

3- Finally, what additional steps did you take to get your latest results?  I think your last update showed you getting around 23 Mh/s, so this increase to 28+ is amazing.  Seems like you are using a bit more power but getting a huge bump in HR seems well worth it!