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5001  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Encoutering Zhoutong, the founder of Bitcoinica on: February 22, 2012, 01:07:30 PM
The original author's id is Derson, according to that website. I've no idea if he has any accounts of bitcointalk though.

Thanks for translating. I can't read Chinese chicken scratch, only 한글 and Engrish.
5002  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Wanted: A few good hackers on: February 22, 2012, 01:06:33 PM
I wouldn't worry about anyone stealing this particular idea and if you truly mean this -> " I don't want compensation for my ideas, I'd just really like to see them become a reality."  

just post them for godsake.

I read a ton of writing forums and I see different variants of this "I wanna share my ideas, I'm afraid they'll steal my idea" topic when the truth is, the ideas are never that good or unique.

edit: I hope I don't sound mean, its not my intent ...

Frankly speaking, you're right on for thinking that way. Ideas are a dime a dozen, and most people don't have what it takes to make ideas actually work (nothing against them, sometimes they're just not in the right position/situation/circumstances) and yet human greed causes them to think the idea is their "baby" so that even if they give it away one day to someone who can make it work, they feel entitled to suing said person later on down the road.

In that sense, Ideas are worth less than a dime a dozen because they can cost you more than they are worth.
5003  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Encoutering Zhoutong, the founder of Bitcoinica on: February 22, 2012, 01:00:51 PM
@Original chinese authors: And?
5004  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Location of next European Bitcoin Conference (London v Berlin) on: February 22, 2012, 12:59:32 PM
I really don't understand or appreciate the "there are lots of other things to see in town too!" arguments. Fuck everything else in town, no one is going for a sightseeing expedition of a town, they're going to a convention/conference.
5005  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: CoinSmack first payout on: February 22, 2012, 11:14:05 AM
Site isn't letting me add anything.
5006  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The free speech poll on: February 22, 2012, 11:01:21 AM
Matthew - if something is illegal, there is still a requirement to prove intent.  If I sell you a bag of heroin thinking its flour, I commit no crime.  If "Go kill 5 blue people" is illegal, the prosecutor has to prove you meant for blue people to be killed before the crime is proven.

Good point. That was rather braindead of me.

In that case, anything that can be construed as intending violence against others should be illegal (as it already is in the USA) and only followed up with judgement when an actual crime occurs.
5007  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does anyone else here love DUBSTEP? on: February 22, 2012, 10:57:54 AM
I sometimes like it, but often it's too monotonous for my taste.

This. And it's not really different than break beats have always been. People are so dumb.
5008  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The free speech poll on: February 22, 2012, 10:51:27 AM
This is interesting, although I don't quite see any appropriate choice (nor do I fully understand the poll) so I'll post my thoughts here instead.

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I don't like people with blue eyes.
Freedom of speech allows for this in the US at least, and I don't think this level of opinion should ever be stifled under any circumstances.

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People with blue eyes have a negative impact on society.
At least in the US, this kind of wording is called "bad journalism" and doesn't include any citations or evidence to show proof of the claim. If it negatively affects a group, that group could be legally obliged to file a law suit. Typically though, it's just bad journalism and people stop listening to the author. This, not the topics being discussed or conspiracies to shut them down, is often the same reason why small-time hyper-political and activist voices, programs, channels etc never make it mainstream-- because they're reckless and unprofessional with their wording.

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The world would be better off without people with blue eyes.
At least in the US, this kind of wording is called "bad journalism" and doesn't include any citations or evidence to show proof of the claim. If it negatively affects a group, that group could be legally obliged to file a law suit. Typically though, it's just bad journalism and people stop listening to the author. This, not the topics being discussed or conspiracies to shut them down, is often the same reason why small-time hyper-political and activist voices, programs, channels etc never make it mainstream-- because they're reckless and unprofessional with their wording.

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I think people with blue eyes should leave the country or kill themselves.
Freedom of speech allows for this in the US at least, and I don't think this level of opinion should ever be stifled under any circumstances. It may not win you any friends (except equally ignorant ones) but it does not elaborate on any plans to take action, just expresses a feeling.

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I approve of people doing something (or "People should do something") to push against those blue-eyed scum.
Freedom of speech allows for this in the US at least, and I don't think this level of opinion should ever be stifled under any circumstances. It may not win you any friends (except equally ignorant ones) but it does not elaborate on any plans to take action, just expresses a feeling.

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I approve of people going out and killing those blue-eyed scum.
Proving approval is the first step to establishing intent and it is dangerous to speak this way regarding illegal activities. Until there actually is a crime committed however, it is considered Freedom of speech and it is allowed in the US at least. I don't think approval of things should ever cause judgments to be passed on individuals who do not take part, unless their un-action in fact aids the illegal act (e.g. not helping a person because they were black and letting them die could be  accomplice in a racial hate crime, although proving intent would be next to impossible without statements like this having been made publicly beforehand).

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You, [specific person], should go and kill five blue eyed people right now.
This is downright inciting violence and although in the US it is covered under Freedom of speech, that stops the moment a crime actually occurs as a direct result of it. I personally make jokes like this all the time with friends and society as a whole understands this. Saying "I'm gonna kill you!" should never be punishable unless you actually kill the person or incited the actions that led to their death.

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If you, [specific person], kill five blue-eyed people right now, I'll give you 200 bitcoins.
If intent is not proven, this can be covered by Freedom of speech (at least in the US). If intent is found and/or the act is carried out with, it is a clean cut case of a contracted murder should be punished for the action, not the words.


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All of the above should be legal.
Despite what I said above, I personally feel that people need to be allowed the space to make mistakes (hit someone and realize it wasn't right, steal something and realize they are hurting someone, etc) in order to grow in society. When murder is the mistake however, we have to be a bit more careful. That said, none of the above should be illegal to merely "say". They should be illegal to act upon, and even then, they are nothing more than evidence towards plausible intent.

Freedoms get trampled on when "I don't like people with blue eyes." becomes intent for murder.
5009  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: February 22, 2012, 10:31:29 AM
What is the point of doxxing someone? Do you really need to post his personal information here for everyone to see? What if someone did that to you? Please be considerate of others and remove this.

OP is just excited probably because of all the annoyance caused by the individual and just wants to hurt them in some way emotionally. There is nothing of value in these dox though, except of course to reinforce the long debated assumption that nerds are in fact nerds.

Traditionally, doxxing is used to uncover lies, deception and fraud purported by individuals, like when SA goons found out about Bruce's previous history as a scammer, or when they thought that the school I ran was fake. The problem is, documents don't always tell the full story, so a lot of the time all you get is shock value which may be entertaining but not really useful.

This does nothing but embarrass the guy. I won't pass judgment on this since I don't know what's going on, and I do understand that doxxing is a process (it doesn't stop until it strikes gold) but sometimes, you never strike gold, and that's when it starts feeling like you're beating a dead cat with a stick.

Let's see where it leads since anyone can look up his public court records etc now, find his profiles and accounts on other sites, etc. Who knows. Maybe he's a kiddy fiddler, a gun runner (haha...runner...) or in the witness protection program for witnessing a cop shoot another cop in an Amish village.
5010  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: February 22, 2012, 10:12:57 AM
As someone who posts their birth certificate on imgur whenever there is nothing better to do, doxxing seems only worthwhile if you can uncover something like with Bold Funding. Hacking in general is fun, as is rummaging through other people's private things like a child explores his new surroundings. Most moralfags don't want to admit it, but invading privacy is one of the quickest ways to educating oneself on society (although obviously works the opposite direction for actual social skills).

ViperJBM is one the loudest, staunchest and most irritating of the Coinhunter followers.
Oh hey, imagine that, the losing side is full of losers.  Roll Eyes All alt-coins need to be destroyed, not just the ones you don't like, such is the nature of competition.

He talked some serious shit right up until he was doxxed. Then he deleted about 10 of his post being a virtual badass today, as well as his avatar most everywhere on the net including over at Solidcointalk.

It sucks to get doxxed. Its a lesson to try not to be a keyboard warrior.

There's nothing wrong with being a keyboard warrior when your cause is great and you have nothing to hide. Too bad that isn't the case here. Anyone who removes what they post because people "get too close" never believed in what they were doing in the first place, or just weren't ready to pay the price for it.



5011  Other / Meta / Re: [ANN] Mt.Gox’s February 21st, Downtime Explanation on: February 22, 2012, 08:46:41 AM
Not sarcasm, but what's false?

- The vulnerabilty was not "well-known". It was a 0-day vulnerability later patched by SMF. Probably you took the Buttcoin "report" on the vulnerability to be true, but that article was entirely made-up. The vulnerability had nothing to do with JavaScript or smilies.
- The issue wasn't used as an excuse to transfer the forum to MtGox. Sirius and I tried to track down the vulnerability, but we had no experience in this area and we couldn't find it, so Sirius decided to transfer responsibility of managing the server to someone else.
- The transfer to MtGox wasn't a secret. Sirius emailed ~13 of the top Bitcoiners to discuss transfering management of the server to someone else. Mark volunteered: Jeff Garzik, Sirius, and I agreed that he was the best choice. I mentioned this on IRC shortly after the decision was made. The email conversation was later published.
- If that $100,000 offer would have been accepted, all of the money would have been donated to the development group or some other appropriate non-profit organization. (This offer was discussed among the same "core group" as above.)

I'll add this quote to the video page for clarity. Thanks!
5012  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to Turn Bitcoin Into the Top Payment Network and the Currency of the Future on: February 22, 2012, 07:48:20 AM
I apologize for any close-mindedness. I am just biased towards phones. They stress me out.

This is how to communicate. Welcome to the human race brother.
5013  Other / Meta / Re: [ANN] Mt.Gox’s February 21st, Downtime Explanation on: February 22, 2012, 12:08:18 AM
This video explains how it all happened. [Dated]



Please don't post this video without telling people that most of it is false. Someone might get confused.

Not sarcasm, but what's false? Can we start a new thread about it and clarify?
5014  Economy / Lending / Re: Looking for a loan. Have collateral on: February 21, 2012, 11:42:53 PM
Is rexcoin another coin that failed or something? I don't understand.

Also the great hockey goalie would be Patrick Roy, Dominik Hasek, Jaques Plante, Grant Furr, Martin Brodeur, and many others. I to am hoping he grows up into a professional. You never know. Patrick Kane is from my area. Notable american goalies right now are Tim Thomas, and Ryan Miller. We are behind in goaltending in the americas.


I love it when newbies show themselves by talking like veterans. It really blows their cover so bad.
5015  Other / Meta / Re: [ANN] Mt.Gox’s February 21st, Downtime Explanation on: February 21, 2012, 11:37:41 PM
Sure, but then again, I doubt there are that stupid that gaining root access to the forums would compromise their Mtgox site as well. Just saying Wink
And I just checked the numbers again, it's 90-98% in cold storage, so that's great =]

If it's true that they run in the actual same server I'm appalled with this decision. Absolutely crazy and absolutely not banking security standards.

This video explains how it all happened. [Dated]

5016  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitlist Requests (Think you're witty?) on: February 21, 2012, 11:30:03 PM
I have some PREMIEM Domain names for sale. I will use you as the EsCrow to COMPLEAT the transactions. Can I has whit list?


I THIKN I NOE U

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5017  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to Turn Bitcoin Into the Top Payment Network and the Currency of the Future on: February 21, 2012, 11:23:45 PM
I see nobody paying with their phone. Zero. Whatever the banks are doing is worth nothing. You people are stuck in a nerdy scifi dream world.

That's because you live in the armpit of assland Texas. Try coming to Asia where we make everything you get 6 years before you get it. I use my phone to pay for everything. Please step aside and let the adults talk.

Asia is a different culture. What works for Asians may not always work fully for Americans and other peoples.

It is a different culture indeed, and as I've pointed out numerous times, I truly believe that Bitcoin is essentially useless to Koreans for example who can wire transfer over their cell phone in the same amount of time it would take to send bitcoins, all from a secured, locked down, government backed and insured bank of 100+ years history without incurring any fees at all.

That right there though only works in a country as small as Korea for legal reasons alone. Having something like that in the USA would be a nightmare for legal and financial reasons. And that is exactly my point. America hasn't been the "leader" in technology in a long, long time. Right now it's the anvil of the technology world-- solid, but weighing everything else down.
5018  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to Turn Bitcoin Into the Top Payment Network and the Currency of the Future on: February 21, 2012, 11:19:57 PM
I've paid for things with my phone, then again it's a bit more advanced than that trinket. Maybe Texas is just too backwards for high technology?
Try again. Austin is second to Silicon Valley in tech.

Sure is! And even Silicon Valley itself sucks balls compared to Japan, Korea, Taiwan and China.

EDIT: Americans are really good at standardizing things. Asians are really good at getting them out the door, that's why there are more lawsuits and safety issues against Asian products than even US products. You sir, are in the wrong country to be talking about imaginary ideas that need to be made and tried before they can work. America is more about proving something can work before it does.
5019  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to Turn Bitcoin Into the Top Payment Network and the Currency of the Future on: February 21, 2012, 11:17:22 PM
I see nobody paying with their phone. Zero. Whatever the banks are doing is worth nothing. You people are stuck in a nerdy scifi dream world.

That's because you live in the armpit of assland Texas. Try coming to Asia where we make everything you get 6 years before you get it. I use my phone to pay for everything. Please step aside and let the adults talk.
5020  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitlist Requests (Think you're witty?) on: February 21, 2012, 11:15:43 PM
I g0t mo whit den any deeth footh. My bruva thay he dont no nobody hoo do like i do. n ma gurl, thee tell me 2 go make da moniez tho dath y i be here.
i wanna thtart doin dat minor thang n how hard can tradin be really? I be a huthla in ma town. tho i think i can do thum damag up in dith bitch.

tho pleeth put me on da witt litht

kthnx






Ma bad dawg. i din thee how bad dat look
dith jus be how ma iphone pick it up
I try 2 type propa fer now on.

thnx
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Facepalms don't do OP justice. This calls for a facefuck.


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