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5021  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | 400M+ Bets | 300k+ BTC Wagered | Free BTC | 1% Edge | Instant on: February 21, 2014, 07:27:59 PM

PD3 then mobile version coming within the next few weeks.
for which platform will be available ??

For all browsers and i think Stunna said there will be fully featured mobile version of it . Which will be AWESOME!
5022  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN QUOTATIONS on: February 21, 2014, 07:20:44 PM
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“The next step in human evolution would be a race that could put their trust in each other, not in their rulers or politicians.” - S.E. SEVER, Writer

I don't see how that relates to Bitcoin, as one of the main points of Bitcoin is that it allows financial transactions WITHOUT putting trust in another person or institution.


Good point there. That was taken from his article about Bitcoin, he meant that with Bitcoin we only deal with each other, no third-party, no governments, no banks. But when u look at it that way , it actually rely doesn't makes sense since Bitcoin doesn't even needs trust , let alone banks or third-parties Cheesy 
5023  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN QUOTATIONS on: February 21, 2014, 07:16:53 PM
“The Bitcoin actually has the balance and incentives right and that is why it is starting to take off.” - Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks

“While the freedom Bitcoin promises is an illusion, it’s one that will always have a grip on the human mind – the dream of finding some kind of talisman, a benevolent tyrant or a magical new technology that can shelter us from power and crime and protect us from each other.” - John N Gray, political philosopher

“The relative success of the bitcoin proves that money first and foremost depends on trust. Neither gold nor bonds are needed to back up a currency.” - Arnon Grunberg, Writer
5024  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN QUOTATIONS on: February 21, 2014, 07:11:28 PM
"Can I buy tomatoes with those bitcoins? Then why dafuq I need it?"
Anonymous

Wow... Cheesy that's a good one !!! Smiley Wonder who that Anonymous person is Cheesy .
5025  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN QUOTATIONS on: February 21, 2014, 06:51:52 PM
“Bitcoin is the most important invention in the history of the world since the Internet.” - Roger Ver, Bitcoin Angel Investor

“Every informed person needs to know about Bitcoin because it might be one of the world’s most important developments.” - Leon Louw, Nobel Peace prize nominee

“I think the internet is going to be one of the major forces for reducing the role of government. The one thing that’s missing but that will soon be developed, is a reliable e-cash.” - Milton Friedman, winner of Nobel prize in economics
5026  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN NEWS EVRYDAY! From multiple sources. on: February 21, 2014, 06:47:01 PM
Has This Company Found a Workaround for Mt. Gox Withdrawals?
Joon Ian Wong (@joonian) | Published on February 21, 2014 at 18:42 GMT | Companies, Exchanges, Mt. Gox, News

A new market will allow Mt. Gox customers to trade funds in their exchange accounts for bitcoin, effectively allowing bitcoin withdrawals despite an official freeze.

The service, Bitcoin Builder, has also created an arbitrage opportunity for traders who wish to exploit the growing spread between the price of bitcoin on Mt. Gox and other major exchanges.

According to the market’s founder Josh Jones, some 14,500 BTC (about $8.1m) worth of trades have been executed since it was set up on 11th Feb.

A widening spread

Bitcoin Builder works by taking advantage of the widening spread between the price of bitcoin on Mt. Gox and other exchanges. The spread has grown as Mt. Gox’s withdrawal freeze stretches on. At the time of writing, for example, 1 BTC was trading for $123.56 on Mt. Gox compared to $566.20 on BitStamp.

Traders on Bitcoin Builder can sell bitcoins in their Mt. Gox accounts on the Bitcoin Builder market at the prevailing price. One bitcoin in a Mt. Gox account was trading for 0.38 BTC on Bitcoin Builder at the time of writing.

If the same bitcoin from Mt. Gox could theoretically be traded on another exchange, like BitStamp, it would be worth just 0.22 BTC. In other words, selling Mt. Gox bitcoins on Bitcoin Builder yields a 73% premium over the theoretical open market rate. Jones said:

“I was in the withdrawal queue for Mt. Gox when all this happened. I was basically a user who wanted an exchange like this to exist myself.”

Bitcoin Builder works because Mt. Gox is still allowing transfers between accounts on the exchange. To sell bitcoin, users must therefore send coins to Bitcoin Builder’s Mt. Gox account. They will then receive bitcoin in a wallet of their choice.

Only users with ‘verified’ or ‘trusted’ accounts at Mt. Gox can make transfers to another account on the exchange. The new exchange charges 2% for each transaction.

Bitcoin Builder also allows traders to buy the discounted Mt. Gox bitcoins. These traders must deposit coins with Bitcoin Builder and then receive Mt. Gox bitcoins that are held in Bitcoin Builder’s account on the exchange.

Traders on Bitcoin Builder must also submit identity documents before they can start making transactions.

The Gox question

Trades on Bitcoin Builder hinge on Mt. Gox’s future. Customers who are selling their Mt. Gox bitcoins on Bitcoin Builder are taking a 78% discount on the price of their coins in exchange for the certainty of holding funds that are not subject to Mt. Gox’s withdrawal restrictions.

Although the exchange has said the withdrawal freeze is due to technical problems and that it will be lifted soon, customers appear to be losing their confidence that the exchange will do as it says. This is reflected in the plummeting price of bitcoin to US dollars on Mt. Gox.

Then there are the arbitrageurs who are able to exploit the spread between prices at Mt. Gox and other exchanges so long as the withdrawal freeze stays in place.

These traders may be depositing fiat into a Mt. Gox account in order to buy more discounted bitcoins and then offloading them on Bitcoin Builder. With bitcoins in hand, they can then make a profit selling on another major exchange.

However, if Mt. Gox were to announce more serious problems — such as insolvency, for example — then Bitcoin Builder’s trading volume would vanish. Jones said:

“If Mt. Gox really is insolvent, or if they somehow freeze Bitcoin Builder’s account, or if they say that some of these bitcoins turned out to be fake because of transaction malleability, then there’s going to be a lot of angry people [on Bitcoin Builder].”

Jones himself is betting that Mt. Gox is solvent and that it is indeed suffering from the technical problems it claims it is experiencing.

“There is a saying, ‘never attribute to malice that which can adequately explained by incompetence’. Mt Gox is not Google or Apple. But they are a real company and Karpeles has made loads of money over the last few years. So he’s not just going to shut it down,” Jones said.

About Josh Jones

Josh

Jones claims he knows a thing or two about running a high-growth technology company with an inexperienced team – which is what Mark Karpeles is being accused of at Mt. Gox.

Jones is one of four co-founders of Dreamhost, a web hosting company that was formed when the group were computer science majors at Harvey Mudd College in California.

The company was founded in 1997 and now has revenues of $45m, according to Jones. Like Mt. Gox, the firm raised funds from professional investors.

“I just think [Karpeles] is just really bad at PR. At Dreamhost I’ve had PR disasters myself. We made a billing error and we over-billed people millions of dollars, and we weren’t as apologetic as we should have been. Immediately, it was like, oh, that didn’t go down well!”

Jones stepped away from operational duties at Dreamhost in March 2010. He said he sold his shares in the company in November, but he uses his track record with the web-hosting firm to prove that Bitcoin Builder should be trusted by its customers.

“That’s why I put my LinkedIn profile and my real identity on the Bitcoin Builders site. I started the LA Bitcoin meet up, I ran Dreamhost. People were already trading on forms, and I was like, man – people are just trusting some dude on a forum. So people are trusting me,” he said.

Jones said he did not know Karpeles personally, except for an email exchange two years ago when Bitcoin Builder was initially launched as a tool to allow automated bitcoin buying on Mt. Gox.

He said Karpeles had emailed him suggesting ways they could make the tool more efficient and split the revenue. Jones then proposed investing in the then-nascent exchange, but Karpeles never responded.

Potential risks

Trust has to be abundant when trading on Bitcoin Builder. For example, customers selling their Mt. Gox bitcoin must transfer their coins to the Bitcoin Builder account with no guarantee that they will receive coins in return.

Bitcoin Builder processes withdrawals daily, at 11pm Pacific Standard Time. Customers selling bitcoin therefore potentially have to wait for an anxiety-laden 24 hours before their wallets outside Mt. Gox are credited.

One Bitcoin Builder trader, who runs a ‘bitcoin hedge fund’ in New York City, says he was reassured by Jones’ transparency about his identity. The trader, who wished to remain anonymous, said:

“[Jones] is a public person with a reputation and a career — so I am willing to believe that he is not a scammer. Like anything, you make sure everything works first with a small amount.”

The trader said he had purchased more than 300 Mt. Gox bitcoins through Bitcoin Builder.

Jones is running Bitcoin Builder by himself at the moment, having written all the software that the site runs on. He is considering adding more features, like leverage and automated withdrawals.

In the meantime, the exchange is doing booming business, and providing a valuable opportunity for Mt. Gox customers to get their funds out.

My toughs: Wow... This could actually work !
5027  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | 400M+ Bets | 300k+ BTC Wagered | Free BTC | 1% Edge | Instant on: February 21, 2014, 06:34:32 PM
@blemp
Actually nobody will agree with u. Coz , we all trust PD and Stunna otherwise we would not play on his site. Also that u will be posting here is easy fix for us , we will just ignore u and don't see ur posts.
As u can see up, players who had any issues are resolved. And u have to understand that many people tried to scam PD, some even succeeded , so they need to be very careful .

And one more thing , Stunna probably put ignore on u here, so he cant see ur posts. If u have any issue u should contact him on email.
5028  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN NEWS EVRYDAY! From multiple sources. on: February 21, 2014, 06:18:53 PM
we already have press board

I know but its so confusing , and hard to read evry news. I asked people what think about this. And u can look at poll, most of them want to see this working. I will try and see how its going. If that is not forbidden ?

I like this more because there are more news per page.(Less loading pages clicking waiting etc)

Exactly and when u want to read news u just read and scrolling for next news, no need for looking at only names of threads searching for newest and so on. Feel free to add ur news that i did not posted. Then on 01. March when i start new thread much better organised than this but doing same thing i will chose one of u who posts here to be my coworker Smiley . Also i will do some give aways . That thread will be awesome u will see . I have great ideas for it .
5029  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN QUOTATIONS on: February 21, 2014, 05:37:51 PM
I just found this site http://bitcoinquotations.com/ it has all this quotes and much more. Smiley

“It will be everywhere, and the world will have to readjust. World governments will have to readjust.” - John McAfee, founder of McAfee Inc.

“Bitcoin is the beginning of something great: a currency without a government, something necessary and imperative.” - Nassim Taleb, scholar and statistician
5030  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN QUOTATIONS on: February 21, 2014, 05:36:02 PM
"Confirmed."

That is quote from who ? Cheesy
5031  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / BITCOIN QUOTATIONS on: February 21, 2014, 05:29:21 PM
Fell free to add some of yours favorites !!!

“With e-currency based on cryptographic proof, without the need to trust a third party middleman, money can be secure and transactions effortless.” - Satoshi Nakamoto, Bitcoin developer

“Bitcoin is a technological tour de force.” - Bill Gates, Microsoft co-founder

“We have elected to put our money and faith in a mathematical framework that is free of politics and human error.” - Tyler Winklevoss, Entrepreneur

“I’m a big fan of Bitcoin … Regulation of money supply needs to be depoliticized.” - Al Gore, former US Vice President and winner of Nobel Peace Prize

“The next step in human evolution would be a race that could put their trust in each other, not in their rulers or politicians.” - S.E. SEVER, Writer

“There are 3 eras of currency: commodity based, politically based, and now, math based.” - Chris Dixon, Technology Investor

“Money is a collective agreement. If enough people come to the same agreement, what they agree upon becomes secondary, whether it be farm animals, gold, diamonds, paper, or simply a code. History proves all these cases to be true. Who knows what the future is going suggest to us as money, once we see digital currencies as ordinary?” - S.E. SEVER, Writer

“If we remember, 15 years ago if you were doing anything on the Internet you were going to make millions. I think it could be the same with Bitcoin.” - Jered Kenna, Trade Hill CEO

“This may be the purest form of democracy the world has ever known, and for one I am thrilled to be here to watch it unfold.” - Paco Ahlgren, Financial Analyst at Wi-Fi Alliance

5032  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Famous quotes about bitcoin? on: February 21, 2014, 05:10:47 PM
“I’m a big fan of Bitcoin … Regulation of money supply needs to be depoliticized.” - Al Gore, former US Vice President and winner of Nobel Peace Prize
5033  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN NEWS EVRYDAY! From multiple sources. on: February 21, 2014, 05:07:03 PM
Watch Bitstamp, BTC-e and Mt. Gox Prices in Real-Time on CoinDesk
CoinDesk (@coindesk) | Published on February 21, 2014 at 16:37 GMT | Exchanges, News

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We have updated our bitcoin price data page so you can now not only track the CoinDesk Bitcoin Price Index in real-time, but you can also check out the up-to-the-minute prices from the world’s largest exchanges: Bitstamp, BTC-e and even Mt. Gox.

While exchanges have come and gone from the CoinDesk BPI over time, we understand a single average doesn’t suit everyone. Once on the price page, just check the boxes of the exchanges you want to view, click ‘Update Chart’ and data from the relevant exchanges will appear on the graph.



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At the moment, you can view individual prices from Bitstamp, BTC-e and Mt. Gox, but we plan to add more exchanges in the future.

When you hover your cursor over the chart, a box will appear detailing the price on each exchange at that particular time/on that particular date.

The graph enables you to view price data from any period in bitcoin’s history since July 2010, when the price on Mt. Gox was a mere $0.07. You can also see when the CoinDesk BPI came into effect (1st July, 2013) and when the price on Gox plummeted way below that recorded on the other exchanges and the CoinDesk BPI (earlier this month).



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The bitcoin price on Mt. Gox fell below that on Bitstamp, BTC-e and the Coindesk BPI earlier this month.
If you want to download the price data you are looking at, just hit the yellow ‘Export’ button and you can select your preferred format from the drop-down list, for example a PNG image or a PDF document.

Make sure you check out our Bitcoin Price Ticker Widget too. We welcome any feedback you have in the comments, or feel free to email contact@coindesk.com.

My toughs: Wow, this is rely cool. Well done CoinDesk
5034  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | 400M+ Bets | 300k+ BTC Wagered | Free BTC | 1% Edge | Instant on: February 21, 2014, 04:22:35 PM
Hmm... Now in this we can see what are some new features. This minor issues are not so easy to fix as people may think. So better we wait a bit longer then to have incomplete site. We can wait a bit longer.
Good luck lunching it Stunna , it will be a huge success i can feel it Smiley

*Spoiler: "theme selection glitches" Cheesy So there will be theme selection ? Hehe... Awesome.


Btw Stunna did u read that email from me about Facebook page? With more than 2k likes, that should not be that abandoned.
5035  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Help - I can't find my 'private key'! for my coin on: February 21, 2014, 11:50:25 AM
he haven't got any client and any private keys Smiley
He just know just wallet address

Then its lost forever. But judging by is post i think he had wallet . He can't have only wallet address without key or wallet Cheesy ?

He said that he have no idea about how he did his wallet.
:-)

Too bad.

Yeah... Many , many people lost theirs coins that way. I wonder about how many coins are we talking about ?
5036  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin is ultimately doomed to fail (not today or tomorrow) on: February 21, 2014, 11:33:24 AM
And yeah one suggestion , ur thread should not state "Why Bitcoin is ultimately doomed to fail" it should be "Is Bitcoin ultimately doomed to fail?" Cheesy . It is just not doomed to fail Smiley . It will do much better than we think.
Also take a look on my news thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475397.0
5037  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN NEWS EVRYDAY! From multiple sources. on: February 21, 2014, 11:25:30 AM
Top UK Payments Body Weighs in on Bitcoin’s Future
Joon Ian Wong (@joonian) | Published on February 21, 2014 at 10:00 GMT | Europe, News, Regulation

The Payments Council, the organisation that sets strategy for payment mechanisms in the UK, has issued a statement saying that it is “neutral” on bitcoin, though it sees “opportunities” for digital currencies.

In response to questions from CoinDesk, the Payments Council said that it had been tracking the progress of digital currencies “with interest”, and that bitcoin was one of many “competitive offerings” that are emerging in the UK.

The organisation appeared to be relatively positive on the future of digital currencies:

“As shopping habits are increasingly moving across borders and continents, it seems certain that there will be real opportunities for virtual currency providers who are outside of traditional domestic banking systems.”

The council’s statement also noted that digital currencies, like other payment services, would be driven by consumer demand.

The council appeared to be using the terms ‘digital currency’ and ‘virtual currency’ interchangeably in its statement. CoinDesk refers to bitcoin as a ‘digital currency’.

About the council

The Payments Council is the governing body for UK payments systems and services. As such, its task is to lead the development of future payment systems and regulate the accountability and transparency of existing systems. It is a voluntary organisation with a membership comprising banks and building societies, including HSBC, Nationwide Building Society, Citibank and others.

Among the schemes that the Payment Council operates is the LINK ATM scheme, which ensures cash cards issued by banks, building societies and other institutions can be used across different ATMs. Almost all of the UK’s ATMs are connected to the LINK network.

The council sets rules on the security of transactions, customer data and fees charged.

Common interests

The council has an interest in promoting speedier Internet transactions. Under the Faster Payments Scheme, launched in 2008, Internet and phone payments for individuals and businesses in the UK saw transaction times reduced from three working days to several hours.

The system was designed to allow quick transactions for amounts of less than £100,000 (US$166,680).

The council is now working on a UK-wide mobile payments scheme that will allow consumers to send secure payments to mobile phone numbers instead of a bank account number. The council promises that this process will be “as easy as texting”. Some 90% of UK current accounts will be able to do this when the scheme is launched this spring.
5038  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN NEWS EVRYDAY! From multiple sources. on: February 21, 2014, 11:24:11 AM
Mt. Gox Bitcoin Price Falls Below $100, its Lowest Level Since July
Pete Rizzo (@pete_rizzo_) | Published on February 21, 2014 at 04:15 GMT | Exchanges, Mt. Gox, Prices

The price of bitcoin on Mt. Gox dropped below $100, hitting a low of $91.50 on 20th February.

Data from Bitcoincharts indicates it was the lowest total observed on the exchange since 22nd July when the lowest price was $89.80.

The announcement comes amid increasing criticism from the bitcoin community about the exchange and its questionable behavior that has included ignoring protestors, blaming the Bitcoin protocol for its implementation issues and somehow managing to create an aura of suspicion and uncertainty around even its physical address.

Earlier this week, Blockchain.info chief security officer Andreas Antonopoulos went so far as to label Mt. Gox “clownish” and “incompetent” as part of the latest episode of the popular podcast Let’s Talk Bitcoin, which was dedicated to dissecting problems at the exchange.

The developments are just the latest in a string of setbacks that have spawned community outrage at both the exchange and CEO Mark Karpeles in the last few weeks. Some community members have even called for Karpeles resignation from the Bitcoin Foundation in light of the recent developments, though the organization has not yet weighed in on the gathered petitions.

Prices stable elsewhere

At press time, the uncertainty around Mt. Gox and its solvency seemed to be affecting other exchanges, though only marginally.

Prices at both BTC-e and Bitstamp were roughly $400 greater than those at Mt. Gox. The figures are particularly stunning, given the exchange’s reputation for high prices compared to other exchanges.

BTC-e opened at $542 on 20th February and at press time had fallen to $539. Similarly, Bitstamp dropped from a high of $561 to $553 at press time.

Community reaction

News that Mt. Gox had fallen under the $100 mark was quick to arrive on reddit, with many community members debating the right investment strategy as well as the motives of Mt. Gox in the wake of the most recent setback.

Some maintained that the market would soon rebound sharply once the situation was resolved, while others suggested the resulting negativity surrounding the market would push fringe bitcoin users away, perhaps for good.

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However, notably there seemed to be a growing opinion that Mt. Gox’s low bitcoin prices may actually be a better reflection of bitcoin’s value.

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This minority cited that fact that prices were at or near current prices before China’s influence on the market and the swell of optimism that came with bitcoin’s rising prices toward the end of 2013.

My toughs: I think they caused enough problems to bitcoin and they should cut the losses and CLOSE !
5039  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN NEWS EVRYDAY! From multiple sources. on: February 21, 2014, 11:21:44 AM
Gavin Andresen to Bitcoin Companies: Support Open Source
Danny Bradbury (@dannybradbury) | Published on February 21, 2014 at 04:11 GMT | Bitcoin protocol, News, Technology

Lead developer Gavin Andresen chided the commercial bitcoin community for not getting involved enough in core bitcoin development and testing this week. In a mail to the bitcoin developers list updating the community on some bug fixes in the code, he called companies out for not giving back.

The mail started out serenely enough, as a general update on what the team has done to fix some immediate transaction malleability issues in the reference version of the bitcoin client software. But it had a sting in the tail:

“Testing and code review is, as always, the bottleneck for getting out a release with these changes. We have a chronic problem with people running bitcoin services on top of the core code waiting until there is an ‘official’ release, and then assuming that somebody else has done the hard work of reviewing and testing the changes.”

“YOU SHOULD NOT BE MAKING THAT ASSUMPTION!” he added, arguing that companies calling procedures in the bitcoin software might trigger some unlikely bug.

When a software engineer speaks in all-caps, you can tell that they’re frustrated.

A tough month

It’s been a tough month for the core development team. Mt Gox’s cessation of bitcoin withdrawals, which it blamed on a long-known flaw in a software component used by the bitcoin network, bought to light a range of problems associated with double spending.

While by no means fatal, they were irritating enough for the Bitcoin Foundation to address them in a public statement.

“When a software engineer speaks in all-caps, you can tell that they're frustrated.”

The latest missive highlighted some immediate work that had been done on the bitcoin wallet to change the way that it handled these issues.

They had been low priority, Andresen said, because they were “edge cases”, meaning that they wouldn’t happen in the normal course of operation.

They would only occur if users did unsupported things. In any case, he said, they were fixable using what he described as a “heavy-handed workaround”.

But software engineers generally like things to be nimble, and elegant, and so the team got to work on it. It resulted in three broad fixes, which would help to ‘de-confuse’ wallets that didn’t know whether their coins were spendable or not.

On of the fixed blocked one of the easiest ways to mutate transactions on the bitcoin network, and Andresen said that many big mining pools were already running this patch.

Time to give back?

But the community has to play ball, Andresen said, by helping to test the fixes out, rather than just running services on top of the latest version of the code and hoping that the team had fixed problems for them.

“Or, in other words: do not treat the core development team as if we were a commercial company that sold you a software library,” he wrote. “That is not how open source works; if you are making a profit using the software, you are expected to help develop, debug, test, and review it.”

BitPay, the payment processor that employed core developer Jeff Garzik last May, was quick to respond.

“Every serious bitcoin company should employ a core dev,” said CEO Tony Gallippi. “Jeff has been fantastic and continues to spend most of his time working on bitcoind and the bitcoin core, and much of the upstream developments that BitPay needs to succeed.”

Peter Gray, co-founder of Canadian company Coinkite, which makes an online wallet to support its bitcoin debit card and POS system, explained that his firm uses its own implementation of the bitcoin protocol in custom-built software, and doesn’t rely on the core bitcoin RPC interface that Andresen describes.

Nevertheless, Gray believes Andresen has a point:

“I do think that Gavin is right to complain about these companies which rely so heavily on open source and don’t contribute back,” he said. “My hope is those same companies are supporting the Bitcoin Foundation financially, and the Foundation, in turn should be funding full time programers and testers.”

Responsibility

Should the Bitcoin Foundation be partly responsible to help ensure the health of the core protocol and reference clients, by encouraging input from industry? The Foundation didn’t return CoinDesk’s request for comment, but Garzik did.

“The Bitcoin Foundation itself is somewhat limited by community ethos. Few people want to centralize a large number of key engineers at the Bitcoin Foundation, which then comes into accusations of ‘controlling bitcoin’ rather than simply being one-of-several bitcoin advocacy organizations,” he said.

Wendell Davis, the founder of Mac OS X-based wallet Hive, admitted that his company hasn’t contributed to the bitcoin source tree:

“Gavin is completely correct of course; they are not a vendor and should not be expected to deliver like a vendor.”

He continued to liken bitcoin to Linux. If Red Hat – which profits from the open-source operating system – didn’t contribute both QA and source improvements, Linux would be far less secure, and more buggy.

“That said, speaking from the perspective of a very small company like Hive (which by the way uses bitcoinj rather than bitcoind, which Gavin is responsible for), it is usually a non-trivial matter to thoroughly go about this kind of work, when you already have your hands full enough at your own ‘layer’,” argued Davis.

Perhaps that’s the problem – bitcoin is a startup currency, in the early stages of disrupting an entire economic model. Lots of people are busy trying to build out its commercial infrastructure.

The question is, how many of them have the time or the funding to support the core technical one? And what happens if the pressure continues to fall upon a small cadre of hard-working, largely unpaid developers?
5040  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Help - I can't find my 'private key'! for my coin on: February 21, 2014, 11:10:48 AM
he haven't got any client and any private keys Smiley
He just know just wallet address

Then its lost forever. But judging by is post i think he had wallet . He can't have only wallet address without key or wallet Cheesy ?
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