Wasn't cloudflare vulnerable to the new Log4J exploit? Don't use most of those websites something similar? Maybe that explains it?

Will OP have enough energy for generating all those private keys?
I remember a picture telling otherwise:

I plan to do so, unless some important vulnerability is found.
And afterwards I will order a new HW or will just use a Tails stick as cold storage/offline signer if I don't get a good deal.

I think that the proper prep is to just make sure the seed is safe and it's the right one (for the expected addresses).

Imho it doesn't tell whether there was or not withdrawal from your account. But it indeed doesn't explain why your account is not credited.

You should clearly tell cryptonator support about this. Tell them about the deposit, tell them that you didn't withdraw, tell them that your account is not credited.
Good luck!

An e-mail account is not necessarily unsafe.
People can choose to make e-mail visible in order to get contacted, especially if they don't spend much time on the forum.
The forum offers a method to recover account even if the e-mail is compromised, but for that one has to put a safe bitcoin address here. The method may be slow, some specific steps need to be made, but one can be much more careful at keeping safe a bitcoin address than an e-mail account.

Does it sound safer now?

The truth is that warnings are necessary. Far too many may FOMO and go head first into Bitcoin, then panic-sell at the first significant drop in price.

Of course, from warnings to bitcoin could be “worthless” there's still quite a leap.
I mean, we can start preaching that the sun will turn into supernova and we are surely right, and at that point bitcoin will probably become worthless, but that doesn't mean that one should fill the newspapers with that.

While some do invest like it would gamble, investing is not like gambling.
One can properly check for himself and invest in what he think it's fit. He can choose for himself what risk he can take, he can choose a more or less reliable investment (of course, if he doesn't check this, then it would be gambling indeed). My point is that if one uses his brain when investing, he has a very chance for profit.
In gambling it usually doesn't matter much how well one uses his brain, the odds for winning are not big.
Gambling is for fun, some adrenaline and some occasional wins. Investments are for earning money.

I use Bitwarden (personal free). Of course, not for seed/private key. And of course, most of those services I keep the passwords for have 2FA which I've clearly enabled.
Bitwarden is also open source, also uses AES-256 end-to-end encryption; I find it a good option. You can also export the passwords ("vault") - encrypted or unencrypted.

https://bitwarden.com
https://github.com/bitwarden

While this looks wonderful, maybe too good, I'd advise:

1. Use escrow, at least until you earn some trust. As it is, anyone trying this "business" may risk to just "donate" you those bitcoin. I don't say that you want to scam, but you can do that too easy if you want to. So, again, consider using escrow (and learn how to use it so you also don't get scammed, obviously).

2. You should tell what country is this working for, or if it's restricted to internet purchases.

3. Consider avoiding to pay for services that may automatically turn into recursive payments.

Lately it's basically the only way an exchange can remain in business after a hack. Of course, some will prefer to give up. And of course, in some cases it's inside job too (probably here it wasn't).
But one cannot know for certain what will actually receive in such a situation and there's always a delay.

As said: not your keys, not your coins. One has to be very careful and avoid keeping too much money on exchanges. As I said, one cannot rely that the exchange will reimburse him.

Lucian Croitoru, despre criptomonede: Există o cerere pentru alte active/ Unele dintre ele vor fi validate, altele nu/ Toate băncile centrale vor avea monedă digitală. Ar fi aberant să nu aibă

In interviul dat de Lucian Croitoru, consilier al Guvernatorului BNR, acesta a fost surprinzator de la subiect in discutia despre criptomonede.
Nu le ataca, chiar observa ca exista inovatie si cerere. Altii ar fi zis cel putin ca e o bula speculativa, el nu.




Bineinteles, un subiect este CBDC pe care el ii numeste "bani digitali" si despre care subliniaza corect ca "sunt ceva diferit de criptoactive sau criptomonede".
Singurul minus este ca nu zice nimic de ce posibilitati (de supraveghere) aduc CBDC, dar hai sa fim seriosi, ar fi fost strigator la cer sa le denunte
Dar le si compara - corect - cu banii din cont. Deci singura "minciunica" este ca le considera la fel si cu banii avuti in lei (adica bancnote).


Am fost destul de placut surprins de ceea ce am citit, adica de abordarea avuta de Lucian Croitoru.

Good luck with that. I would just add that, unfortunately, in the same way you didn't bother to do a minimal check before sending them your money, many others will do as you did and get scammed.

This forum is already full of scam accusations (and flags) against them. Of course, one has to spend a couple of minutes and check.

I still use it. A lot. Maybe a bit changed like "only invest an amount you can afford to lose or to keep locked in bitcoin for very long time".

While indeed fiat is getting printed at an incredible rate, we should not forget that some simply cannot afford to put away a couple of bucks on the monthly basis. They may see bitcoin as the goose that can lay golden eggs and, when the price falls, they get panicked. I expect people who "don't afford to lose" lose the most when the price falls suddenly, because of their FOMO-buy and panic-sell actions.

I completely agree on heavily educating. But I also think that until the moment somebody understands fully good how the bitcoin investment works (and how much the price fluctuates too), until the moment one understands good enough why the price rises more than falls on the long term, the "only invest an amount you can afford to lose" is a simple starting point. Later on he can already decide better whether he should or not invest/buy and will probably no longer need our answers.

If you were investing and not trading, and if you invested only money you can afford to lose, then there are 3 direction I see:

* buy more (buy the dip, maybe DCA too, especially if you have more funds to invest - and afford to lose)
* sell and buy back when the price drops more (if it will drop more)
* hold and learn patience, since the price should grow again eventually (of course, it may or may not happen, and if it'll happen it may take any time between hours and years)

Of course, anything you'll do are risky moves. And one should not tell you what you should do with your money. The decision is yours.

Somebody did. Yesterday that topic was (still) in Beginners and Help. (Clearly not the best place, I know.)

This was already posted 4 days ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376340

And although I can understand that it's not related to bitcoin, the fact mods have buried that thread in Off-Topic looks a bit unfair. Probably that's also why you've missed it.

While I agree with the comprehensive conclusion of TA ("chaotic mess"), shouldn't this news be bullish (if it's for real)?

On a more festive note (as opposed on arguing over whatever Mercedes will do), Sebastian Vettel has won Crypto.com Overtake Award

At the first glance I don't see anything unusual about the images.
Did you try to log in from another browser and see that topic again? Maybe something cached wrong, I don't know. (Also CRTL+F5 may help).

If the problem persists, maybe you tell more clearly where to look, maybe make a screenshot too?

Actually they do work, just certain apps won't work on won't update.
(I do agree with your conclusion though).


I don't know how long after the production has stopped they have become (more or less) unusable. It could give us a hint for what to expect, although it also depends on what vulnerabilities are found and when.
For example, you can see here an obsolete Ledger HW.1 still working, although only with legacy addresses (including nested SegWit).
So, while I agree more than 90% with you, I find you a bit too harsh 

---

Something else has also occurred to me. Although they'll discontinue Nano S, after some while, I expect that for many years to come they'll get support tickets from people keeping their money on a Nano S and "now" no longer working.