I wonder how many users that had no previous contact with bitcoin, never bought or sell any would do that for the first time just to get an access to this forum. By the way, how much is that evil fee at the moment?
Not much, but presumably some if they are low enough. Based on that older data that LoyceV found, approximately 2% of those paid the fee but what surprised me is that fee is much higher than I expected. I somehow thought that it is in the range of a few k satoshis, so more like a symbolic amount, but not 0.0011 BTC. So high enough to stop abusers but not too high in order not to deter people from bitcointalk. And those are the numbers of users that paid the fee when BTC was much lower. If there was no evil fee reduction in the meantime, that would mean that someone would have to pay almost 40 USD to remove that thing. In that case, percentage can be only lower. One more question: when you pay the evil IP fee, does this resets "evil" back to zero so IP is clean from that moment? |
|
|
|
I would like to hear of a better solution to the evil score problem - how else do you ban mass waves of rule-breakers when they sign up? Thing is, those that are creating accounts en masse always find a way to circumvent that evil fee thing and keep on creating new accounts either via VPN or something else, while legit users most likely won't bother with that when they get the message that their IP is flagged due something they didn't do. They might even think that this is some kind of scam and won't come back ever again. Especially now when there are so many different platforms and forums are not as popular as they used to be so they have choices. I would actually argue that the evil score system is incredibly generous as users can pay for those specific accounts to be unblocked and for the evil to be removed - typical permabans for IPs aren't usually that friendly.
I wonder how many users that had no previous contact with bitcoin, never bought or sell any would do that for the first time just to get an access to this forum. By the way, how much is that evil fee at the moment? |
|
|
|
You may want to add this to your list: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.kodular.yassine_benajem99.MyEtherWallet and https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.kodular.yassine_benajem99.Trust_Wallet Thank you for reporting, fake wallets have been added to the list.
One more fake wallet appeared on Google Play, this time its fake TRX wallet. Wallet has been uploaded 2 weeks ago and it already has more than 1,000 downloads. Hopefully no one entered their seed phrase, as that would mean they lost everything they had. Fake TRX wallet https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eng.devods.tronwallet Real TRX wallet https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=trx.org.freewallet.app
Reminder: always download wallets directly from developers website! |
|
|
|
Another thread has been added to the list, making it 92nd. [ANN] UBERSTATE — a leader in banking as a service for crypto currency!https://archive.fo/VNBSYGroup of accounts that are working on two previously added announcement threads (Rubic and Totem) is active in Uberstate as well. Despite my warnings in their thread, explaining them that the same service they hired promoted numerous scams and it won't bring them attention they aimed for, they decided to keep going with the thread bumping, therefore putting themselves on this list. |
|
|
|
Most of the time, when a project presents fake team members, chances are that other information and its whitepaper are fake and plagiarized. Good thing you were able to spot this on time!
Yep, why bother with things like whitepaper when you are willing to take someone else's identity (they keep forgetting that those are real persons) and use it for your scammy project. And all this done in such an obvious and incompetent way that I have a feeling that an average scammer is more stupid that the people he is trying to scam. Pls check unfortunately it was my bad luck before this also the project i worked on that i also got scammed if you want i can show you screenshots for complete chat, since in that project i haven,t got paid for my fees also & for this fortune finance i trusted this guy that was my mistake but my intentions was not wrong, since once i have seen this fake team member i have immideatly removed ANN This has nothing to do with your bad luck but with your laziness and incompetence. Since you had issues in the past with scam project how came you haven't learn anything but instead you continued with the same practice. Pls check i have removed ANN Already & if you remove my negative feedback that will be really appreciated, since my source of income is this bounty work only
You should have been more careful if this is your only source of income. By the way, have you thought what would happen with the money of those would see your ANN and invested in Fortune Finance? Just because I tagged you it doesn't mean that it will stay there forever. These things can change, but for that I have to be sure that you started acting responsibly. For start, stop blaming bad luck. |
|
|
|
I have just checked this team is fake & thanks for notifying but i am just bounty manager who got paid for posting ANN & which i have no whatsoever relation with ANN
Here by i,ll removing ANN with immideate effect & raising scam request also
Good to hear that you are removing the content of ANN thread immediately. Usually I would consider changing the feedback to neutral as you are just hired to do this and everyone can make a mistake, but looks like one user had bad experience with previous projects you promoted, and you claimed that this time you did due diligence and that you checked Fortune Finance, while it took me only a few minutes to find their fake team members and plagiarized whitepaper, leading me to believe that you haven't check absolutely anything and that you lied. All you had to do is simple reverse image search via Google Images and you would find that CEO and one more team member are fake. Therefore, negative feedback stays as you simply can't be trusted that you will do your job properly. So far, you are pain, for every project you touch.
I am sure that this time, problems are also only a matter of time.
Not me unfortunately both of projects which i have worked turn out to be scam, but now we were doing our due diligence before picking any project |
|
|
|
Po meni Polkadot je long term investicija, ko sto je prije par godina bio ETH dok je bio u $20 rangu.
Ako imas mogucnosti, uzmi nesto, nikad neznas, ipak je to crypto.
Bas zato sam i gledao DOT jer bi ulozio u nesto dugorocno. Neda mi se provjeravati svaki dan cijene alta pa onda kupovat i prodavati nego jednostavno kupiti i zaboraviti na to jedno 6 mjeseci-godinu dana pa sta bude. Ma ima vremena za Polkadot. Sad je na ATH i dosta je hype-a oko njega. Vjerojatno će mu cijena pasti malo kad se hype smiri pa će onda biti dobra prilika za ulaz. Ne znam, nekako ću uvijek radije propustiti priliku za dobru zaradu nego da ulazim na ATH cijeni.
Je na ATH ako gledas na cijenu u $, ali ako gledas na cijenu u BTC trenutno je na 50% ATH. Pocetkom 9 mjeseca prosle godine bio je 0.00055 BTC a sad je na 0.00036 BTC a po meni nekako vise smisla ima gledati altove u odnosu na BTC. Bar ovakvima kao ja koji ako nisu u nekom altu onda su u BTC a ne u nekom stable coinu. Ono sto mene dugorocno zanima je povecavanje kolicine BTCa, dolarska vrijednost na te neke krace rokove mi je totalno nebitna, tako da jebes to sto neki alt napravi x3 u par mjeseci ako je to na kraju manje BTCa. To je uostalom i glavni razlog što nisam ljubitelj altova jer ih veliku većinu BTC dugoročno outperforma. |
|
|
|
|
Po ovom chartu bi se nekako dalo zakljuciti da je bas sada dobro vrijeme za uzeti neke altove.
Ja nisam kupovao nikakve altove jos od kraja 2018/pocetka 2019 kad sam se rijesio apsolutno svega osim ETH ali bas razmisljam i ja u zadnje vrijeme da ulozim nesto. A dok se ja premisljam ovi altovi koje gledam (prvenstveno Polkadot) odose jako gore.
|
|
|
|
Warning: Fortune Finance used fake team member photos for at least 2/4 of their team members (rest are most likely fake too) and on top of that they plagiarized whitepaper. I opened a scam accusation thread in which you can find all the evidence https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309633.0@bitcoingape As i understand you are hired in order to publish this ANN, right? What I would like to know is why you haven't checked this properly before accepting the job? If you spent 2 minutes on that this would be avoided. |
|
|
|
|
So I see that instead attracting interest and building community organically, you decided to hire one of those bumping groups to fake the interest right from the beginning with those silly questions and one liners.
FYI, the same group that you hired often does the same job for various scams as they are not picky and are willing to work for just about anyone who is ready to pay and you don't want to be associated with them. They might bring you some extra attention, but not the one you hoped for so I suggest that you cancel the service as soon as possible.
|
|
|
|
Ono sto ja znam je da ako ikad budem opet uzimao njihov wallet da sigurno necu narucivati direktno od njih.
To opet otvara vrata nekim drugim vrstama prevare pa si nekako mislim da je najbolje naručiti ledger direktno ali s fake podacima na poštanski pretinac. Tužno je što uopće moramo razmišljati o takvim stvarima. A znam, bas zato i jesam narucivao direktno od njih jer sam bas htio smanjiti sansu da je netko prckao po Ledgeru, ali eto na kraju se ispostavilo da to i nije bilo najpametnije rjesenje. Sreca u nesreci je da mi je leakan samo email a ne sve ostalo. Ovo za postanski pretinac i fake podatke nije losa ideja, ali kao sto rece zalosno je da se uopce mora o takvim stvarima razmisljati. Ko da kupujem osiromaseni uran a ne jebeni hardverski wallet. Ja uredno svakodnevno brišem par mailova koji mi žele pomoći osigurati sredstva na ledgeru. Valjda će im dojaditi za mjesec dva. Ja im iz nekog razloga nisam toliko zanimljiv, do sada sam dobio sam par takvih emailova. |
|
|
|
Kao i obicno, od Ledgera se uvijek mogu ocekivati "dobre" vijesti. Naime, ona lista korisnika sa leakanim imena i prezimenima, emailovima, adresama i brojevima nije konacna, dodatnih cca 20,000 korisnika je takodjer najebalo. U textu se takodjer navode mjere koje planiraju poduzeti da se ovakvo sranje vise ne ponovi, ali zivi bili pa vidjeli. Ono sto ja znam je da ako ikad budem opet uzimao njihov wallet da sigurno necu narucivati direktno od njih. On December 20th, 2020 the full contents of the stolen databases were made publicly available in a forum. Once we saw these full databases, we could see that approximately 272,000 customer records including name, address and phone number were stolen in addition to the more than 1M email addresses. As soon as this was discovered we warned affected customers via email (December 21st, 2020).
Now, we have new information to share: on December 23rd, 2020 we received a notification from our e-commerce service provider, Shopify, regarding an incident involving merchant data in which rogue member(s) of their support team obtained customer transactional records, including Ledger’s. The agent(s) illegally exported customer transactional records in April and June 2020. According to Shopify, this is related to the incident reported September 2020, which concerns more than 200 merchants, but until December 21st, 2020, Shopify had not discovered that Ledger was also targeted in this attack. Shopify tells us they engaged digital forensics experts and counsel to continue their investigation on the matter and have reported the matter to law enforcement in both Canada and the USA.
Along with forensic firm Orange Cyberdefense we were able to establish that it affects approximately 292,000 customers. While the database is 93% similar to those exposed in the previous attack there were approximately 20,000 new customer records including, email, name, postal address, product(s) ordered and phone number included in this breach. https://www.ledger.com/blog/update-efforts-to-protect-your-data-and-prosecute-the-scammers |
|
|
|
|
Oh yeah, no question what's going on here, promising 10% profit in 10 days is ponzi scheme territory.
@finnex tagged from my side for ponzi promotion and waiting flag type 1 to be raised as anyone who get involved with this will at best get back only the fraction of what they invested (as they like to give a little bit back in order to lure people to invest even more) but eventually will loose everything.
|
|
|
|
Hard to say precisely how much the interest has progressed in my country, but it's clear that crypto is becoming more regulated here and exchanges are growing compared to 2 years ago. I'd say it's a good thing even though most exchanges only have around 1 million total registered users (not sure how many of them are actively trading).
Same situation here regarding the regulations, almost everyone asks for KYC now while it was quite different just a few years ago. But that was kinda expected once bitcoin started getting more into mainstream, unfortunately. there wasn't that much interest in bitcoin back in 2017 either. and google trends doesn't really show the interest in bitcoin either. in fact even with all the price rises that we had so far the real bitcoin adoption remains very small which is why we still don't see that many people aware of bitcoin's existence and its potential.
Google trends simply show how popular term "bitcoin" was on Google, and that's about it. Doesn't show adoption or how many people bought it in the end. But as I said, it's no surprise that every time there is spike in price, interest goes up. It shouldn't be taken too seriously, as almost anything in life  additionally your comparison is wrong because you are looking at the google trends by the end of 2017 which was everything at its maximum meanwhile right now even the hype is still too tiny and just getting started to build up. As stated in my first post, that's exactly what I wanted to see, difference between previous all time high and now, as I noticed that people around me and on social media are less hyped about bitcoin despite prices going 2x compared to 2017. What we have now is much healthier imo. This could be because the latest interest is more from big players and individuals. Most of my contacts are more aware of cryptos.. to repeat me daily how the bubble will burst. The higher is the price, the more annoying are they.
True, there might be something in that as that's what many people agree on, that this bull run is different as more big players are getting into all this. |
|
|
|
Most of the links I have clicked have been deleted, so you can adjust the status in the table.
If you try to access the fake wallets link via android mobile phone you will see that they are still there. For some reason few links are not working when accessing through PC. Unfortunately, continuing to update such lists means that we fight in the dark and thus scammers are one step ahead of us, it is better to teach beginners how to download the wallet from a trusted site (verify the authenticity of the signature,) report scam wallets, and thus we have added more strengths. That's why I mentioned in the first post that wallets should be downloaded primarily via developers website. But the fact is that majority of people are not doing that, so those that can see the list can help and report the apps and spread the awareness. The more of us report, better the chances that Google will remove them in the reasonable timeframe, or at least I like to think that. Fighting scammers will always be a whack-a-mole game, that's how it is. The bright side is that most of these fake wallets contain less than 10 downloads.
From what I could see, all but 2 have over 100, while 2 Jaxx wallets have more than 5,000 downloads. And basically all of them have fake reviews. |
|
|
|
Despite bitcoin reaching more than double the price of the last all time high, I don't see around me and in my country (Croatia) as much interest as in late 2017/early 2018 so I was curious what's the situation according to Google Trends and how popular "bitcoin" as term is. Timeframe I set was from January 1st 2009 up until today, January 13th 2021. As you can see from the screenshot below, users worldwide googled "bitcoin" less now than compared to December 2017 (approximately 20% less) when interest was at it's peak, despite the price increase which usually triggers the interest.  Numbers represent search interest relative to the highest point on the chart for the given region and time. A value of 100 is the peak popularity for the term. A value of 50 means that the term is half as popular. A score of 0 means that there was not enough data for this term. This map shows in which countries people googled for bitcoin the most, darker the blue, higher percentage of "bitcoin" term being googled, relative to all other searches in that country. Grey colour means that there is no enough data available. I knew that Nigeria will probably be high on the list, but I had no idea that "bitcoin" term is googled so much in a few other African countries like Ghana and South Africa.  Top 10 countries: Nigeria 100 South Africa 65 Ghana 58 Austria 46 Netherlands 43 Switzerland 41 Singapore 41 Slovenia 40 Australia 38 Canada 35 Rest of the list you can find here. Out of those big markets, Germany is ranked 11 with 34 score, United States are 14th with 31, United Kingdom 21st with 26 score. What surprises me is that South Korea is ranked 52nd, Russia 61st and the last is Japan, with score 2. Values are calculated on a scale from 0 to 100, where 100 is the location with the most popularity as a fraction of total searches in that location, a value of 50 indicates a location which is half as popular. A value of 0 indicates a location where there was not enough data for this term. A higher value means a higher proportion of all queries, not a higher absolute query count. So a tiny country where 80% of the queries are for 'bananas' will get twice the score of a giant country where only 40% of the queries are for 'bananas'.
I fully understand that just because someone googles "bitcoin" doesn't mean he will actually buy it, but it still give us some idea on the current interest, which usually coincides with increased price. So, what's the situation around you and in your country, do you notice more or less interest compared to 2017? |
|
|
|
|
Basically from the moment I heard about bitcoin for the first time (iirc late 2013/early 2014) I hear people saying that it's too late to buy bitcoin now, that they missed the train etc just because they didn't buy bitcoin when it was dirt cheap, but in reality they wouldn't even think about buying when it was few dollars, as they would probably think that it's some kind of scam.
Last year I had to sell some bitcoin for some ongoing expenses and I asked all my friends & family (that wanted to buy when price was at previous all time high) if anyone is interested. BTC was 9-10k at that moment and absolutely no one wanted to buy, it was too expensive for them. After BTC crossed 30k mark, I keep getting messages from those same people, asking me where and how to buy.
To sum it up, those that really want to start investing will buy at any price (preferably using dollar cost average method) while those that don't will always find some excuse and always wait for the better time.
|
|
|
|
As a total newbie in this topic (I use a couple mobile wallets since ages and I haven't researched the field since then), first of all, thanks for the warning, I hope you help many beginners who read this first; but as an iPhone user, are there fake wallets too in Apple's App Store? While making this list, out of curiosity I also checked iOS App store as I wanted to see situation there, and I found only one case of a suspicious app that could be a fake wallet, but I wasn't 100% sure. I will occasionally check iOS and might update this list with those apps as well, if needed. I think that it is not impossible but it is harder for iOS as they keep higher standards for the Apps to get accepted; but this is just a subjective opinion, I would like to hear it from someone who knows more than me on the topic (as i stated, I am still a newbie  ). That's true, chances of fake wallet appearing on iOS are significantly lower than on Google Play, but it can still happen of course. No system is infallible and mistakes are bound to happen, but with Google it can't be call an exception or anomaly when they have at least 13 fake wallets at the moment. Worst of all, it usually takes them couple of weeks to remove those fake apps. Important: Always download apps directly from developers website!
Personally, I use iPhone and in AppStore there are not so many fake and shitty apps. I have never faced with a problem like that and I hope nobody loses their money because of these kind of scams. It's true that iOS is generally safer, but I still wouldn't recommend getting something as sensitive as crypto wallet from App Store. Getting them directly from developers website is certainly a better option, just make sure that you are not entering a phishing website as that can happen too. People usually don't care much about their own safety until it's too late. All those reported fake wallets are already removed from Google Play, that's why they weren't included as I see no point adding them retroactively and cluttering the list if apps were removed months or maybe a year ago. I only included reports of the apps that were still available while making this topic. In case i missed some report and app is still available, pleasen mention it here and it will be updated asap. |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
