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5061  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple: Disproportionate enrichment of the founders of the system? on: April 19, 2013, 04:46:39 AM
How are they violating an open source license? They are not using any GPL-ed code.
And you've got proof to back it up? Hmm?

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I find it interesting that you made your thread "moderated" to prevent any sort of critical discussion.
It's not to prevent critical discussion, it's to prevent dumps of copypastas. Feel free to discuss issues raised on the site.

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My thoughts on this is that you are just pissed off because they came up with a really amazing idea which just happens to have the biggest pre-mine in the history of crypto-currency.

There are problems with the "debt is money" model, in addition to how it is centralized and closed source.

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But is it a scam? I will concede that if it doesn't become open source then there are some significant problems. However, I see no evidence of an evil plan.

You don't call something open source if it is not open source, like how it's illegal to advertise "ALL DRINKS FREE" in your signs, and when people enter you tell them "oh this will happen eventually".

The reason why I created a website is for SEO. RippleScam would have succeeded when it is the #2 result when someone searches for "ripple", and of course the #1 result for "ripple scam". I'm also looking into advertising this on AdWords for the terms meanwhile.
5062  Economy / Auctions / Re: Auctioning of 20k Ripples on: April 19, 2013, 04:38:08 AM
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Same dev team that made edonkey and mtgox quite interesting fellows i'm subscribed for the livefeed Smiley
https://ripple.com/blog/

Try reading the link in my sig.
5063  Economy / Auctions / Re: ASICMINER Auction: 10 Block Erupter Blades on: April 19, 2013, 04:37:51 AM
2@ 63.1
Has to be in 0.5 BTC increments.
5064  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple: Disproportionate enrichment of the founders of the system? on: April 19, 2013, 04:35:14 AM
People who criticize Ripple without stating facts are in my opinion just trolling. Such as a certain person who put up a website dedicated to trashing Ripple. Here's a well-reasoned analysis which states facts.

Nothing there. Kinda ironic.

Please also try reading RippleScam first.

Also, this is a very big assumption to make given the profit orientated goals of OpenCoin Inc. They will open source it if it makes commercial sense to do so - and there's only commercial sense when people demand it to be open sourced, and for OpenCoin Inc to stop violating open source licenses and release their source code

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Note: The following analysis assumes that the Ripple system eventually becomes open sourced, gets decentralized, and that rigorous mathematical analysis proves that the system is robust and fulfills its technical promises.
5065  Economy / Securities / Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx on: April 19, 2013, 04:34:32 AM
Nope, it expired, just needs to be renewed.
5066  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: RippleScam.org - Exposing The Ripple Scam on: April 19, 2013, 04:16:23 AM
Donations may be sent to 1RSorGeJnz418Avk3juKn47bQtDUctWNY and will be used for server expenses, additional content, as well as an advertising campaign.

If you're going to write anything in response to this, write it in response to this instead of copypasting. This applies regardless of if you support / are against Ripple.
5067  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: RippleScam.org - Exposing The Ripple Scam on: April 19, 2013, 04:13:06 AM
Reserved.
5068  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / RippleScam.org - Exposing The Ripple Scam on: April 19, 2013, 04:12:58 AM
Ripple is..

  • Centralized, Proprietary and Closed Source
  • 51% Attacked By Founders
  • Hidden 100% inflation and giveaway to friends
  • Easy to shut down by law enforcement
  • Going to collapse because "debt as money"

RippleScam.org - Exposing The Ripple Scam

“OpenCoin,” “Ripple,”, the OpenCoin logos and any other OpenCoin product or service name, logo or slogan contained in the Site are trademarks or service marks of OpenCoin (the “OpenCoin Marks”) and may not be copied, imitated or used, in whole or in part, except as expressly permitted in these Terms or on the Site or with the prior written permission of OpenCoin.

VERSUS

Bitcoin: The software is a community-driven free open source project, released under the MIT license.
5069  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game on: April 19, 2013, 02:59:30 AM
weird, the expired message is only on http://www.satoshidice.com but we can access the site through http://satoshidice.com
Can't, This domain name expired on Apr 18 2013 05:39PM
Click here to renew it.
5070  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTCJam has officially pulled a scam on: April 19, 2013, 02:58:17 AM
How much are you trying to withdraw?
5071  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple SCAM: You *do not* own BTC or USD, you own debt that will collapse on: April 19, 2013, 02:53:43 AM
I don't mind people posting their opinion on what they don't like about Ripple, but please stop posting misinformation. It gives people like me who are trying to figure out what the hell Ripple is a headache.
Point out the "misinformation" please.
5072  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTCJam has officially pulled a scam on: April 19, 2013, 02:48:44 AM
How much are you trying to withdraw?
5073  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple SCAM: You *do not* own BTC or USD, you own debt that will collapse on: April 19, 2013, 02:47:36 AM
And OpenCoin is keeping 50 billion, not 20 billion.
The original dev team is keeping 20B XRP, OpenCoin is distributing 50B and keeping 30B.

Ripple is mostly just a payment processing system. It's the paypal killer that bitcoin is not. Worried you'll miss the boat on soaring XRP value? Buy a few. You're worried their credit system is wonky? Then wait 5 years and judge it then because it's not important right now.

Ripple is a big vision and misterbigg gets it and he's totally pwning all ye trolls, sry.


I don't waste time with people who pull the troll card. Learn what a troll actually is.
5074  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTCJam has officially pulled a scam on: April 19, 2013, 02:29:44 AM
When did you email them?
5075  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / 100 BTC Bounty: Own a bitcoin on the ripple network on: April 19, 2013, 02:28:45 AM
To claim this bounty, you must hold a bitcoin directly on the ripple network.

It is impossible to claim this bounty because you do not own "bitcoin" or "usd" or "eur" on ripple.
5076  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple SCAM: You *do not* own BTC or USD, you own debt that will collapse on: April 19, 2013, 02:23:55 AM

I am guessing since they decided to award themselves 80% of that 100 billion they can do whatever they see fit.



OpenCoin securing ~20% for development is the reason Ripple will be more successful. They address some of the problems with bitcoin, while supporting bitcoin at the same time.

Here are some of the problems with bitcoin that OpenCoin fixes: development hinges on donations. This means fewer devs, less dev attention, fewer strategic partnerships, no marketing budget, virtually no support.

You know what they say, it takes money to make money.

What the world needs is a decentralized currency and a better way to use money digitally. OpenCoin will get us there, the fact that they will profit along the way is inconsequential.  OpenCoin doesn't even take a transaction fee, they are creating a system that will eventually be "let loose in the wild" and it fixes some huge problems... at like zero cost to the end user.

It's a win-win for business and consumer.

Let's enforce a tax of 20% on all bitcoin transactions! Nobody will help develop bitcoin without that tax!

Well, you are wrong. It's not a win win, it's a win for ScamCoin Inc, a lose for everyone who get suckered in thinking that they have "USD" or "BTC" when in fact they don't own those currencies, only debt.

Bitcoin businesses, adopters and users have an incentive to contribute to bitcoin. And OpenCoin is keeping 50 billion, not 20 billion.
5077  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple SCAM: You *do not* own BTC or USD, you own debt that will collapse on: April 19, 2013, 02:22:36 AM
Ripple will fail because $1 in debt is not worth $1, its worth less.

With this logic, paypal wouldn't exist, because $1 in my pocket is worth more than $1 at paypal. Paypal exists because there is utility in moving that $1 when physical transfer is not practical.
There's a difference between $0.999 worth of debt and $0.80 worth of debt.

I am guessing since they decided to award themselves 80% of that 100 billion they can do whatever they see fit.

Do you understand the protocol as described in the wiki? There's no way to create XRPs. They exist only because of the initial balance in the genesis ledger.


That is because the developers chose to give themselves the ripples. They could easily have distributed the XRPs in a fair way or create them in advance, but they chose not to because they want 50 billion XRPs.
5078  Economy / Gambling / Re: Anyone have any good gamling code/sites for sale? on: April 19, 2013, 01:48:05 AM
Keep up with your hunt then, and don't whine about it when you can't find anyone.
5079  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game on: April 19, 2013, 01:46:11 AM
Domain expired, heh
5080  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAMMERS] Bitinstant on: April 19, 2013, 12:47:23 AM
Hey, Bjork, I processed this order an hour or so ago. Check out the btc address you provided - you should see the funds.
This is why you make a scammer accusations thread.

Also, what's with the Fee: 0.0003 BTC?
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