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5061  Economy / Speculation / Re: Q4 -Quarter 4 speculation thread, where will 2019 end, join the LIST on: December 20, 2019, 10:13:45 AM
I have created an auto-updated leaderboard page for this competition - https://tiramisu77.github.io/bct-game-leaderboard/

It takes the entries from the second post of this thread, calculated the delta - how close the prediction is to the current price, then sorts the whole list and displays it, with each predictions delta added as a second column.
5062  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You selling to buy Xmas gifts or using bitcoins to buy Xmas gifts? on: December 19, 2019, 06:42:22 PM
"Bitcoin goes down because of holidays" is a myth, it doesn't make sense, what kind of investor sells their assets just because it's holiday? Have you ever seen this happening with other markets, like gold or stocks? No, it doesn't happen with them, so why should it happen with Bitcoin? It's true that we have more retail investors than on traditional markets, but retail investors don't go 100% on Bitcoin to the point when they have to liquidate some coins when they need to spend money.
5063  Economy / Economics / Re: Exchanges are rebelling against constant hard forks on: December 19, 2019, 06:32:44 PM
As someone who can't be bothered with technical aspects (I don't even run a node), I mostly see these forks as just a money grab. Oh, your crypto forked, now you have the same amount of two different coins...

Investors probably don't mind suddenly getting a bit more money but I can see why exchanges are getting tired of possible upcoming forks, it costs money to prepare to accept new coins. Our local exchange didn't even started supporting BCH until late last year.

The word (hard) fork has two meanings in crypto - a software upgrade without backwards compatibility or a chain split and creation of new coin as the result. You are talking about the latter, while the article is focused on the former - the cost of frequent software upgrades, the risks associated with them, etc, all these things annoy both the users and especially the service providers.
5064  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-12-17] Bitcoin’s failing price could be caused by $2B Chinese Ponzi scheme on: December 19, 2019, 05:50:05 PM
Seems like the price has mostly recovered today, so the recent crash was just a panic and manipulation rather than something fundamental - and it would have been really surprising if some Chinese Ponzi could have influenced the price for a longer period of time. The lesson here is as usual - do not let sensational news affect your trades, look at the long term.
5065  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Verified, unalterable historical record via blockchain? may already exist? on: December 18, 2019, 08:33:52 PM

i'm not exactly sure on HOW this would work mind you - is it some sort of bot scraping articles for dates, events, pictures and video? well if so, how do we know the articles are posting real things, and not, say, the onion and it's satire?


You can't, you'd need trusted human input for that. At best your project could be a decentralized alternative for archiving sites, but I'm sure someone has already tried it, so you may want to do some research and check if they succeed or not, and what's the current state of such projects.

As for fakes, I believe that they can be combated with the same technology that creates them - machine learning. If you can teach neural network to imitate something, you can also teach it to spot all those artifacts and other patterns that are present in fake photos and videos. As for articles, there's also neural networks that do sentiment analysis and can spot manipulative articles with some accuracy.
5066  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrencies: A (Crazy) Decade in Review on: December 18, 2019, 07:48:22 PM
in fact Bitcoin is speculative because it's decentralized - if it was something like a stablecoin managed by a company, it would be very centralized and tightly regulated, so there won't be any free market.

All cryptocurrencies/tokens are speculative right now because they're not being used (comparatively to other solutions that aim to solve the same problem, albeit not in a decentralized way). I don't think decentralization inherently has anything to do with how the entire market is speculative. Investors/traders are speculating that Bitcoin and other DLTs will have a real-world use case that will drive their value in the future.

Because Bitcoin is decentralized, it's harder to regulate, and since it's not well-regulated, it's more volatile/speculative. This is why the SEC rejects Bitcoin ETF's - they believe that the market is not well regulated to prevent manipulation. But if Bitcoin was just a company - imagine if Satoshi patented it and had a company that manages it and maintains the price, has KYC, etc., then it wouldn't be so speculative, people would threat it more like a stock and try to calculate it's profitability rather than speculate on it.
5067  Economy / Speculation / Re: December’s Significance for Bitcoin: All-Time Highs and Bearish Bottoms on: December 18, 2019, 05:54:46 PM
Not all Decembers. 2012 was pretty slow with small rises, 2013 the 1k bull market, 2014 $150 bottom, 2015 a bullish reversal to $500, 2016 a run back to 1k, 2017 20k bull run, 2018 bottom of the bear market. This December looks like a slow decline compared to the last 6 years, but Decembers are usually really volatile, that's for sure.
Even today there was a lot of money to be made on that $500 dip.

Exactly, there's no special significance of December, it's just fresh memory from 2017 causing people to develop bias towards this months now. If you look at 2019, the most important month was April, since during that time the price exploded and had a bullish rally. And in September the market turned bearish with a big crash. What we are having now is really small compared to those months, so it's useless to make comparisons with December 2017 just because it's also a December.
5068  Economy / Speculation / Re: The real reason BTC price has dropped on: December 18, 2019, 04:39:42 PM
Pathetic attempt at FUD/trolling from a bought account. It's not even an argument, just a stupid strawman argument that Bitcoin is "just ones and zeroes" and that it's being manipulated without any real proofs. You are just hoping that people will panic because the price is going down, and they will listen to any stupid argument because of their emotions.
5069  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrencies: A (Crazy) Decade in Review on: December 17, 2019, 06:48:21 PM
Still, I will allow myself to criticize Bitcoin a little. It does not fit the ideas that Satoshi Nakamoto stated. From a decentralized payment system, Bitcoin has turned into a speculative manipulated tool. Payments in Bitcoins in the form in which it is now, it is a utopia. While 10 years is not such a long time for the cryptocurrency industry, I think the next 100 years will definitely bear some good fruit and the digital currency will be ubiquitous.

The fact that Bitcoin is speculative doesn't really hinder it's usability as decentralized payment system - in fact Bitcoin is speculative because it's decentralized - if it was something like a stablecoin managed by a company, it would be very centralized and tightly regulated, so there won't be any free market.
5070  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright: "BTC is not Bitcoin" on: December 17, 2019, 06:16:31 PM
Why are you bringing attention to him? Everyone knows that CSW is a scammer who presents himself as Satoshi and he calls his shitcoin BSV the real Bitcoin. There's no need to give him publicity, even if it's negative publicity, it's better if everyone just ignored him so he could be forgotten. Because while almost everyone sees that he is just a con artist, there's always a small minority of people who buy into their story and lose their money as the result. Let's not help him get those people scammed.
5071  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Faucet Game payout in what coin? on: December 17, 2019, 05:42:19 PM
Use Bitcoin and Lightning Network, it's perfect for microstransactions like faucets, and your visitors won't have to deal with converting alts to BTC, which can cause a lot of fees that will make faucets rewards unclaimeable. Plus, you will help increase LN's adoption, and as an early adopter yourself, you will have advantage over other faucets that use older withdrawal methods.
5072  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is very bad for the European crypto community! on: December 17, 2019, 05:05:38 PM

They are doing whatever it takes to "take over" and make centralized payments dominant once again.

Bitcoin was created for us to have no limits in cross-border payments. Now they're trying to take it away from us, because of KYC. There's very little freedom on how much BTC and altcoins are we gonna withdraw, especially within the European union.


What are you talking about, crypto was never dominant, it was never even close to being noticeable, there's nothing to take over.

And as for regulations, the users can choose to ignore them at their own risk, they can't stop Bitcoin's protocol, and they will never be able to, and I'm sure they won't even try to do it, since it would be just a waste of resources.
5073  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are the best blockchain application you see in the market right now? on: December 14, 2019, 02:47:04 PM
My vote goes to Asset Management: Trade Processing and Settlement

Since traditional trade processes within asset management (where parties trade and manage assets) can be expensive and risky, particularly when it comes to cross-border transactions. Each party in the process, such as broker, custodian, or the settlement manager, keeps their own records which create significant inefficiencies and room for error. The blockchain ledger reduces error by encrypting the records. At the same time, the ledger simplifies the process, while canceling the need for intermediaries.

And what are you going to do when someone hacks your wallet and steals your assets? Or if you lose your wallet backups? If your answer is "nothing", then no government ever would approve such system, and without governments approval these blockchain assets won't have any legal power. And if you'll try to solve those problems, you will end up introducing those third parties right back.
5074  Economy / Economics / Re: Greeks face heavy fines if they don't spend 30% of their income electronically on: December 14, 2019, 02:34:14 PM
This just begs to become another use case for Bitcoin, and not because it's electronic but because it's electronic cash - it can be used to avoid taxes just like cash, although some precautions are needed, since transaction history is public and permanent. Greeks could start asking to pay a part of their salary in Bitcoin and then spend Bitcoin directly, so that the government and banks wouldn't know about those money. But just like with other theoretical use cases, only time will show if it will happen or not.
5075  Economy / Economics / Re: ECB President: There is clearly a demand out there that we have to respond to on: December 14, 2019, 02:11:03 PM
i wonder how the retail banks feel about all this. they are the middlemen being cut out in this scenario. Cheesy

Are they though? I think it's more of Visa/Mastercard being cut out rather than banks, banks can easily integrate with stablecoins and act as custodians and provide the same options for loans and deposits as they do with fiat. And people who want to use stablecoins aren't known for deeply caring about privacy or control over their money, so I totally can see them using stablecoins with banks.
5076  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Google's Quantum Computer Destroy Bitcoin? on: December 14, 2019, 12:42:02 PM
Yes, I agree with you, I think it's just a hoax because until now there has been no official announcement from Google about quantum computers. and I think if a quantum computer does exist then I'm sure bitcoin developers will improve security systems and strengthen block security. I'm sure bitcoin developers will try hard to strengthen the bitcoin system and network.
Fake news or not I believe it's just a matter of time until we reach an unimaginable computer capability to calculate enormous number and that's technology development that can't be stopped. However, if there's any computer like that out there. i'm pretty sure that it'll not be in the hand of someone unresponsible. But, there's always a chance that it could go against any cryptocurrency so we should actually put our concern here rather than denying the reality.

From the point of view of people from the past, we currently have unimaginable computing power, when you can crack old crypto systems on your home computer in seconds, but it really doesn't mean much, because crypto systems evolve to match new challenges. Quantum computers are still extremely theoretical/experimental, but we already have algorithms that can resist them. And algorithms will keep improving in the future, so I'm sure the will have an upper hand over quantum computers.
5077  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interesting graph: The payoff of early investment: Stocks IPO vs BTC on: December 14, 2019, 12:16:32 PM
The ROI of BTC is just insane! Best investment to beat inflation...

You don't need any crazy ROI to beat inflation, since inflation is just a few percent per year. A since high ROI means high risk, Bitcoin is actually far from being the best asset to beat inflation. Investors who want to only negate inflation seek small and predictable returns, and they would be very uncomfortable with Bitcoin's volatility.
5078  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would it be realistic for the world to run on cryptocurrencies? on: December 14, 2019, 10:39:02 AM
Some EU countries have pushed for obligations for cashless payments, and encouraged citizens not to use physical fiat. We can monitor the extent to which effectiveness will work, can be monitored if around 5% of users are seen using it for fiat-crypto activities and the percentage continues to increase, the government can detail the possibilities for payment instruments via crypto as projected in Ukraine.

adoption can also be measured by how much influence it has on mass use, and the methodology can be carried out through the transition from the use of fiat on the initial subject.

If countries are waging war on cash, it's a bad sign for crypto adoption there, because crypto and cash have very similar properties like privacy and decentralization, and they are the reason why governments are against cash. So, it's likely that they will restrict use of crypto in the same way they restrict cash, they just don't do it now because crypto is so small at the moment.
5079  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [2019-12-13] Russia’s Largest Darknet Market Is Hawking an ICO to Fund Expansion on: December 13, 2019, 01:42:45 PM
What's in it for the end users? Are they supposed to be buying drugs with these shittokens? Why not just buy them directly with crypto? I always viewed these platform tokens as just a fairy tale for the investors that will never be implemented on practice, since a lot of people would rather for an alternative service than bother with exchanging coins for tokens, installing wallets, etc.
5080  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: I forgot the password from wallet.dat 18.2 BTC on: December 13, 2019, 01:45:03 AM
The password is irrelevant, only the seed words matter. When you create a wallet, you are supposed to write down a series of words in a piece of paper, you can recover your wallet with that.


It's not irrelevant, wallet file + password allow you to access your coins, so it's a really bad idea to be careless about it. As for seeds, not all wallets have them, Bitcoin Core doesn't use them and will not use them in close future. If we are talking about wallet files from early days, there's almost no chance that those wallets have seeds, so finding or cracking password is the only way to access the coins again.
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