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5081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: December 13, 2021, 02:06:26 PM
Thanks for the quick summary though I watched the race from a live coverage I received.

I was not sure what you've missed, since the "what the hell happened after"  Wink

Though what baffled me was that, Lewis was marching and blazing through the laps. Even if Verstappen had the soft tyres and pitted twice, Lewis managed to kept his hard tyres with around a +16s gap at lap 54. I was so sure that he was going to win his 8th title but the crash from Latifi resulted to a safety car.

I don't know what to say. Lewis was clearly pushing. He was aware that his tyres don't look great, but not too bad either. He was already warned to stop cutting certain corners, especially as another car with Mercedes engine (I think that it was Lando) got a puncture because of the sharp-ish edges in those curves. Those tyres have already shown this year that they can go boom without a warning. But clearly, these are just speculations. The truth is that with the latest engine, the Mercedes car should have been unbeatable. It has shown that in Brasil.

The question is, do you think it is just that Verstappen overtook 3 cars when the safety car was deployed?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. After the tyre change, Max returned into second place, the other few cars were one lap behind.
They would have gotten blue flag anyway; the only thing is that they could have made Max waste some extra time which may or may not have helped Lewis.
However, speculating on what could have been happening are counterproductive.

All protests/appeals against Verstappen's win of the championship has been aborted according to this press release:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mercedes-set-to-abort-plan-to-appeal-against-max-verstappen-title-win-mcs6cbbz7

From what I've read they are only considering that. I'll wait until 100% clear info comes out.

Max Verstappen about Lewis Hamilton: 'If I had been in his car, the season would have been decided long ago'

And many would say "indeed". But it's actually not so easy. The cars have different properties and one pilot can do better than another in the same car. Clearly the RBR car, especially since it has Honda engine, not Mercedes, has different posture and aerodynamics, hence the driving experience may differ.
So while I agree that for most of the races (but not all!!) the Mercedes was more powerful and the faster car, I don't agree with Max' statement.
5082  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Funds not showing up on: December 13, 2021, 11:47:13 AM
Hi

I sent a Payment from one electrum Wallet to another, it's been about 24Hours soon and the payment has not yet to show up on the receiving end, anyone know why ?

Please se the image bellow.
[~snip~]

1. Your strategy to hide info makes it hard for us to understand where the problem is, but it's not well hidden and if one wants to find out source address, recipient address and everything - it can be done with the info still on that picture.

2. I see it has 118 confirmations. I'd start with checking the recipient address if it's exactly what's expected, since clipboard malware may "help" you send to unexpected addresses.
Then you should see if the recipient did check correctly (is it you? is the wallet properly connected to a node and synced?) and if you check the recipient address on a block explorer (blockchair.com, memplool.space) you can see for yourself whether the money is there. Also the recipient may be hacked or lying. The transaction history for that address should tell the story, but since you didn't post the address, you'll have to check for yourself.


5083  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Exactly how does BTC development go on, if the current group all quits or dies? on: December 13, 2021, 11:04:10 AM
Thank you, now we are very close to the exact topic: A small group of core devs actually release the code, who takes over if they are gone?

Anyone in the world can take over the code and continue developing it and releasing it. This is the beauty of being open source.
The community will then decide if they want to use the new releases or not, based on what has been changed in the code (which should be again, publicly available).

So the question, as @Lucius also pointed out, is a non-question, probably meant to scare newbies.


TL;DR: There's no real issue there. Period.
5084  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I bought $271 worth of Bitcoin in late 2009 on: December 13, 2021, 10:55:55 AM
no one bought bitcoin in 2009.
bitcoins value wasnt even valued in 2009

If we look at this thread posted by @DdmrDdmr -> 12 years today since the first known price was set for BTC, then we can see that Sirius (Martti Malmi) sold 5050 BTC to PayPal in late 2009 using the New Liberty Standard. I'm not saying that the OP is telling the truth, but there remains a reasonable doubt that he still managed to buy BTC using the already mentioned service.

Human mind is very complex. One cannot rely on human mind to correctly remember things. Not 100%.
There may be that OP is trolling. There may be that OP tries to "rewrite history". And there may be that OP just doesn't remember some things right and the year can be anything, even 2015. (of course, it may also be 500 mBTC)
I agree with Franky here, OP should get his story right first.
5085  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: This is the Fear and Greed Index Chart on: December 13, 2021, 10:44:00 AM
It doesn't need to keep dropping a lot, it might as well stay that way for a couple of years.

True, although the psychological effect is not as good as a big drop.
And honestly, it's quite improbable to see the price move in a small interval for years. For now.

That's why I personally prefer the DCA instead of trying to time the market based on indicators like this and others. It is more boring, but safer and more profitable (if we take into account that more than 90% of traders lose money in the long term).

DCA is great for long time holder (and I advise it too), but maybe not so much for a trader. And ... here's trading discussion Grin
5086  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Why I wouldn't buy Ledger Nano S ever again? on: December 13, 2021, 10:39:08 AM
Sure, but do you think that it would be a smart business decision to tell their clients: you know what, all those Nano S's you bought, are now useless? From tomorrow, you wont be able to connect to Ledger Live. Hahah, suckers.

They can tell that for whatever reason the update is no longer compatible with the old hardware (see how Win11 update does it), they can simply tell in a year or two that old hardware is no longer supported, they can say nothing, just release update only for the newer HW (and make sure it won't work on Nano S), in the same way the older smartphones no longer get any kind of updates. There are plenty of ways to do it.
And Ledger's image is already going down, so they can't do much more harm to it Cheesy Cheesy

But there is still the issue of not being able to update your Bitcoin crypto app or install the newest firmware. In case your Ledger resets itself, you wont be able to configure it without accessing Ledger Live and downloading the BTC app as well. But yeah, Electrum should still work.

Clearly. From that point on, the Nano S user will be "walking on thin ice". He has to acknowledge that his device will - sooner or later - become thrash.
But what can he do? If he's transacting a lot, he clearly has to buy new device in the moment the old device is no longer supported. If he's using it seldom and any transaction can wait, all he has to do is to make sure the seed he wrote down is indeed good (easy to achieve with a Tails stick, offline), and wait for the device's complete end-of-life.
5087  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain confrims deposit to my wallet but it does not appear. on: December 13, 2021, 10:24:59 AM
As said, 3FySuWEdeByqADhTPy4eoAytNyBUCjkppF received 0.0016105BTC with another transaction: d703890c20bbf43159a8f7faff8601e8c06a884753d5a43d750e6751bd715a2b
About 2 hours later, with transaction dc72b53bdccd8e15cb05b9c0ab31ffee4303404f7911f6866992d1225cb7fef3, those funds were sent away.

Now, this second transaction may have been done by you or somebody having your account details
or was done by cryptonator itself, since that address is your deposit address; at cryptonator you don't really have your address since it's custodian wallet and you only have an account. This means that they could have used those funds for somebody else's withdrawal and that can be totally OK as long as your account remains funded. I guess that this didn't happen and then:
* either there's a bug and you have to see with cryptonator support about it and get your funds
* either somebody else also has access to your account (hacked) and then your money was stolen

I can't tell what happened, it's only cryptonator support that can help you.

All I can do for you is to suggest next time don't use custodian wallet. Not your keys, not your coins. And if you plan to keep meaningful amounts of money as bitcoin, I advise you consider acquiring a hardware wallet.
5088  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Why I wouldn't buy Ledger Nano S ever again? on: December 13, 2021, 10:09:20 AM
Please let's be realistic, they are doing the same thing like smartphones and they even want to evolve their hardware wallet into phone Roll Eyes

It's obvious that, like any commercial company, all they care about is to earn money. And forcing their user off an older product in order to make them buy again is... unfortunately too common and Ledger is clearly doing the same.

I am just saying that it's going to take time. The production of the old Nano S could stop in a month, but you are still going to be able to use your device and they will surely keep making software upgrades for it as well for some time until their clients either purchase a newer Ledger brand or switch to a different company all together. 

They can easily halt the software upgrades whenever they want. Their production for Nano S may be already stopped or may be at the end of this year.
Still, I agree that it should take time. Of course, it depends on how hungry/evil they are. Normally it should take at least one more year from now until the updates will end, but who knows?

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Also, something you both didn't say (or I've missed) : it also depends on how other software will behave. I mean that unless something fundamental changes or some big flaw is found, I don't see why Electrum wouldn't support the Nano S for many more years after Ledger stops updating it.
5089  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: This is the Fear and Greed Index Chart on: December 13, 2021, 10:00:27 AM
But this is good buying area

While the chart and logic look pretty good and.. well.. common sense, I have an "evil" question: what if the price falls (much) lower? What if crypto winter starts? Won't then the current "buying zone" become obsolete and may even become a "I wish I sold" zone?

I clearly don't hope for such thing happen. I hope the 100k mark is at least touched before. But a good trader (which I'm not) has to also be prepared for "what if".
5090  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: December 13, 2021, 09:12:13 AM
For now they rejected Mercedes and declared Verstappen as champion but I think is not over yet, FIA did a mistake and Mercedes I think will go for the legal way.

The problem is that they've made a lot of mistakes lately. And my opinion is that lately most have favored Mercedes, excepting SPA. The year was an avalanche of bad calls from FIA.
I love the way people cheered for Lewis' fair play, while in the back his team was (and is) fighting hard to change the outcome of the race. While I can understand why they do this - it's about a lot of money - it taints the sport.

I know that Max was super lucky. And I won't say that one or another would have deserved the title more, I don't think so, and whoever tells different basically denies all that happened the whole year.
I am happy for Max and I also hope that next year's champion will be somebody else - neither Max, nor Lewis.
5091  Economy / Economics / Re: Maybe good time to loan money to invest in crypto on: December 12, 2021, 08:39:54 PM
One can never be sure what bitcoin price will do.
The main rule on bitcoin investments is to never invest money you don't afford to lose (or keep locked for very long time).
So no, in most cases borrowing money for investing into bitcoin is not advised. If one does that, may be tempted more easier to panic-sell at a loss.
5092  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: December 12, 2021, 08:32:53 PM
After the crash at lap 54, what the hell happened after? I was so sure that Lewis got this in the bag with his consistent form and driving but what just happened after the safety car at lap 57?

Latifi tries to overtake Mick, fails, then loses the rear of his car and crashes it.
Safety car.
RBR quick move and changed tyres on both cars.
Mercedes were hoping that race ends under safety car.
Strewards make a strange decisions that that cars that are one lap behind remain in place.
Checo retires for unknown reasons.
Strewards change their minds and decide that overlapped cars have to go to their places, hence Max remains just after Lewis.
Safety car goes in, Max takes advantage of his fresh soft tyres and passes Lewis. End of story.
Nice gesture (at least in front of the cameras) from Lewis, although I can see how tough this was for him, possibly the last chance to beat Michael Schumacher.

It was a great race for Checo, shame he retired.
It was an interestingly good result for Sainz.
Good result for both Tsunoda and Gasly.

Max wins, but it was not his merit this time. BRB strategy was good. And he was super lucky too (although I am not convinced that Lewis' tyres would have done good until the end at race speed for all the ending laps).

Lewis should have gotten a grid penalty for the incident with Mazepin Saturday.
Lewis should have gotten a 5 sec penalty for the incident from lap 1.
Lewis almost got favored at safety car restart, but quite late the lapped cars were sent away.
The rules were stretched again and the stewards were giving in to the one shouting the loudest.
The fight for the first place was as sad as the last couple ones.

So, both Mercedes protests were rejected, but looks that they're going to appeal it.

Nothing unexpected. The decisions there were bad. Actually the decisions were bad in the last 2 races, at least.
Not mentioning that if SPA would have been a proper race - no matter when - we may not have had this drama.
But drama brings money, you know?
5093  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: December 12, 2021, 01:20:24 PM
For now:
* disappointing start for Max
* impressingly mature move from Lando
* awful double standards for F1 stewards

Let's see how it goes.
5094  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Search statistics about necessary transaction fees within the next x blocks? on: December 12, 2021, 12:43:02 PM
In order to better estimate the necessary transactions fees when sending BC I am searching for backward statistics over the last month resp resp last year.

If you want to estimate the fees you need for a transaction, looking for months old data will get you nothing useful.
You can web search for average fees chart bitcoin and you may get the data, but again, it won't help.

As the others said, you have to look on https://jochen-hoenicke.de or https://mempool.space/ since they will give you an image on what is now in the mempool. And that is most probably unrelated to what was there one week or one month ago.

Then you can decide based on:
* how full mempool is
* what fees others have used in current mempool (the competition)
* how fast the last blocks got mined
* the difficulty vs hash rate (eg if the percent in mempool.space for estimated diff adjustment is >0 then you have to expect faster-than-usual blocks)
* whether you expect the number of transactions-to-come increase or not in the near future

As you can see, all these are basically unrelated to whatever has happened in the past, especially week(s) ago.
5095  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: mempool / electrs install, can load transactions but not addresses on: December 11, 2021, 10:25:51 AM
What does the command return?

Code:
bitcoin-cli getmempoolinfo

1. Please don't hijack other's topic. Make your own.
2. You can find your answer in the documentation: https://developer.bitcoin.org/reference/rpc/getmempoolinfo.html
5096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: December 11, 2021, 09:15:21 AM
Personally, against all the odds, as I do not want Hamilton to beat Schumacher's record of 7 titles, I bet on RBR.

Actually the win-win is to bet on Hamilton. Then you will be happy either for Max winning, either for you winning the bet Grin
5097  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports on: December 11, 2021, 09:10:45 AM
Well, I mean, even the community managers are acknowledging that they have a pretty bad rep in this forum. Just look at their new campaign related to sports, which was opened last Dec 09. Note on the bottom says that "Negative trust for promoting 1xBit is allowed" like bruh. They're really pushing for the idea that any sort of advertisement is still an advertisement.

You really scared me. From the way you wrote it I understood that a sports campaign accepts red tagged 1xBit promoters.
After quite some search I've seen: it's actually the same company. So yeah, the problem widens to 2 campaigns for the same company.

I don't know if they can still have revenue since the promoter has negative feedback under the profile which means they are promoting a very risky gambling casino and the tag was indicated that they are promoting scam casinos. I don't understand if there is a gambler who will visit their site but since they spend that too much amount and I think they have revenue.

Robots from the search engines don't care if the lead/link comes from red tagged users. The link will go higher in search results.
Many newbies don't know what red tag is.
Trust feedback (tags) are not visible if one is not logged in, hence many won't even see the red tag of the promoters.
5098  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports on: December 10, 2021, 05:31:29 PM
The problem is that people joining there will get tagged and then that will be their only option for signature. This means that 1xbit kinda builds up their own "community" of advertisers.
And since many don't know what red tag is, 1xbit can easily get actual leads/revenue from the signatures.

I find this wrong... Such dishonest businesses should not be allowed to be advertised. But since the scams are not moderated, I don't know whether this would be possible.
5099  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Jr Member in the Pocket (1 Down, 5 to Go) on: December 10, 2021, 05:19:04 PM
I am now a Jr. Member. Congratulations to me!

 Cheesy Grin Since this is not in Reputation, for example, I was expecting to see somebody selling Jr Member accounts  Grin Cheesy
I'm glad that I've made this mistake. Congratualtions!

Now, I'm getting gradually addicted.

The next ranks will be gradually harder - as merits - but since you are getting addicted it may come gradually easier to pass them, actually. The more time you spend (well) here, the more you'll learn, the more helpful you'll be, the more you'll participate and .. the easier you'll get the merits and the shiny new ranks. Good luck!
5100  Local / Romānă (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: December 10, 2021, 05:12:38 PM
Hai ca m-am inscris si eu, ca vad ca ma ia "flama timbrelor" =)))

Ei, eu intai m-am inscris... asa ca ai reusit sa postezi aici inaintea mea Grin
Bafta!
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