Po meni Polkadot je long term investicija, ko sto je prije par godina bio ETH dok je bio u $20 rangu.
Ako imas mogucnosti, uzmi nesto, nikad neznas, ipak je to crypto.
Bas zato sam i gledao DOT jer bi ulozio u nesto dugorocno. Neda mi se provjeravati svaki dan cijene alta pa onda kupovat i prodavati nego jednostavno kupiti i zaboraviti na to jedno 6 mjeseci-godinu dana pa sta bude. Ma ima vremena za Polkadot. Sad je na ATH i dosta je hype-a oko njega. Vjerojatno će mu cijena pasti malo kad se hype smiri pa će onda biti dobra prilika za ulaz. Ne znam, nekako ću uvijek radije propustiti priliku za dobru zaradu nego da ulazim na ATH cijeni.
Je na ATH ako gledas na cijenu u $, ali ako gledas na cijenu u BTC trenutno je na 50% ATH. Pocetkom 9 mjeseca prosle godine bio je 0.00055 BTC a sad je na 0.00036 BTC a po meni nekako vise smisla ima gledati altove u odnosu na BTC. Bar ovakvima kao ja koji ako nisu u nekom altu onda su u BTC a ne u nekom stable coinu. Ono sto mene dugorocno zanima je povecavanje kolicine BTCa, dolarska vrijednost na te neke krace rokove mi je totalno nebitna, tako da jebes to sto neki alt napravi x3 u par mjeseci ako je to na kraju manje BTCa. To je uostalom i glavni razlog što nisam ljubitelj altova jer ih veliku većinu BTC dugoročno outperforma. |
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Po ovom chartu bi se nekako dalo zakljuciti da je bas sada dobro vrijeme za uzeti neke altove.
Ja nisam kupovao nikakve altove jos od kraja 2018/pocetka 2019 kad sam se rijesio apsolutno svega osim ETH ali bas razmisljam i ja u zadnje vrijeme da ulozim nesto. A dok se ja premisljam ovi altovi koje gledam (prvenstveno Polkadot) odose jako gore.
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Warning: Fortune Finance used fake team member photos for at least 2/4 of their team members (rest are most likely fake too) and on top of that they plagiarized whitepaper. I opened a scam accusation thread in which you can find all the evidence https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309633.0@bitcoingape As i understand you are hired in order to publish this ANN, right? What I would like to know is why you haven't checked this properly before accepting the job? If you spent 2 minutes on that this would be avoided. |
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So I see that instead attracting interest and building community organically, you decided to hire one of those bumping groups to fake the interest right from the beginning with those silly questions and one liners.
FYI, the same group that you hired often does the same job for various scams as they are not picky and are willing to work for just about anyone who is ready to pay and you don't want to be associated with them. They might bring you some extra attention, but not the one you hoped for so I suggest that you cancel the service as soon as possible.
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Ono sto ja znam je da ako ikad budem opet uzimao njihov wallet da sigurno necu narucivati direktno od njih.
To opet otvara vrata nekim drugim vrstama prevare pa si nekako mislim da je najbolje naručiti ledger direktno ali s fake podacima na poštanski pretinac. Tužno je što uopće moramo razmišljati o takvim stvarima. A znam, bas zato i jesam narucivao direktno od njih jer sam bas htio smanjiti sansu da je netko prckao po Ledgeru, ali eto na kraju se ispostavilo da to i nije bilo najpametnije rjesenje. Sreca u nesreci je da mi je leakan samo email a ne sve ostalo. Ovo za postanski pretinac i fake podatke nije losa ideja, ali kao sto rece zalosno je da se uopce mora o takvim stvarima razmisljati. Ko da kupujem osiromaseni uran a ne jebeni hardverski wallet. Ja uredno svakodnevno brišem par mailova koji mi žele pomoći osigurati sredstva na ledgeru. Valjda će im dojaditi za mjesec dva. Ja im iz nekog razloga nisam toliko zanimljiv, do sada sam dobio sam par takvih emailova. |
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Kao i obicno, od Ledgera se uvijek mogu ocekivati "dobre" vijesti. Naime, ona lista korisnika sa leakanim imena i prezimenima, emailovima, adresama i brojevima nije konacna, dodatnih cca 20,000 korisnika je takodjer najebalo. U textu se takodjer navode mjere koje planiraju poduzeti da se ovakvo sranje vise ne ponovi, ali zivi bili pa vidjeli. Ono sto ja znam je da ako ikad budem opet uzimao njihov wallet da sigurno necu narucivati direktno od njih. On December 20th, 2020 the full contents of the stolen databases were made publicly available in a forum. Once we saw these full databases, we could see that approximately 272,000 customer records including name, address and phone number were stolen in addition to the more than 1M email addresses. As soon as this was discovered we warned affected customers via email (December 21st, 2020).
Now, we have new information to share: on December 23rd, 2020 we received a notification from our e-commerce service provider, Shopify, regarding an incident involving merchant data in which rogue member(s) of their support team obtained customer transactional records, including Ledger’s. The agent(s) illegally exported customer transactional records in April and June 2020. According to Shopify, this is related to the incident reported September 2020, which concerns more than 200 merchants, but until December 21st, 2020, Shopify had not discovered that Ledger was also targeted in this attack. Shopify tells us they engaged digital forensics experts and counsel to continue their investigation on the matter and have reported the matter to law enforcement in both Canada and the USA.
Along with forensic firm Orange Cyberdefense we were able to establish that it affects approximately 292,000 customers. While the database is 93% similar to those exposed in the previous attack there were approximately 20,000 new customer records including, email, name, postal address, product(s) ordered and phone number included in this breach. https://www.ledger.com/blog/update-efforts-to-protect-your-data-and-prosecute-the-scammers |
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Oh yeah, no question what's going on here, promising 10% profit in 10 days is ponzi scheme territory.
@finnex tagged from my side for ponzi promotion and waiting flag type 1 to be raised as anyone who get involved with this will at best get back only the fraction of what they invested (as they like to give a little bit back in order to lure people to invest even more) but eventually will loose everything.
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Hard to say precisely how much the interest has progressed in my country, but it's clear that crypto is becoming more regulated here and exchanges are growing compared to 2 years ago. I'd say it's a good thing even though most exchanges only have around 1 million total registered users (not sure how many of them are actively trading).
Same situation here regarding the regulations, almost everyone asks for KYC now while it was quite different just a few years ago. But that was kinda expected once bitcoin started getting more into mainstream, unfortunately. there wasn't that much interest in bitcoin back in 2017 either. and google trends doesn't really show the interest in bitcoin either. in fact even with all the price rises that we had so far the real bitcoin adoption remains very small which is why we still don't see that many people aware of bitcoin's existence and its potential.
Google trends simply show how popular term "bitcoin" was on Google, and that's about it. Doesn't show adoption or how many people bought it in the end. But as I said, it's no surprise that every time there is spike in price, interest goes up. It shouldn't be taken too seriously, as almost anything in life  additionally your comparison is wrong because you are looking at the google trends by the end of 2017 which was everything at its maximum meanwhile right now even the hype is still too tiny and just getting started to build up. As stated in my first post, that's exactly what I wanted to see, difference between previous all time high and now, as I noticed that people around me and on social media are less hyped about bitcoin despite prices going 2x compared to 2017. What we have now is much healthier imo. This could be because the latest interest is more from big players and individuals. Most of my contacts are more aware of cryptos.. to repeat me daily how the bubble will burst. The higher is the price, the more annoying are they.
True, there might be something in that as that's what many people agree on, that this bull run is different as more big players are getting into all this. |
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Most of the links I have clicked have been deleted, so you can adjust the status in the table.
If you try to access the fake wallets link via android mobile phone you will see that they are still there. For some reason few links are not working when accessing through PC. Unfortunately, continuing to update such lists means that we fight in the dark and thus scammers are one step ahead of us, it is better to teach beginners how to download the wallet from a trusted site (verify the authenticity of the signature,) report scam wallets, and thus we have added more strengths. That's why I mentioned in the first post that wallets should be downloaded primarily via developers website. But the fact is that majority of people are not doing that, so those that can see the list can help and report the apps and spread the awareness. The more of us report, better the chances that Google will remove them in the reasonable timeframe, or at least I like to think that. Fighting scammers will always be a whack-a-mole game, that's how it is. The bright side is that most of these fake wallets contain less than 10 downloads.
From what I could see, all but 2 have over 100, while 2 Jaxx wallets have more than 5,000 downloads. And basically all of them have fake reviews. |
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Despite bitcoin reaching more than double the price of the last all time high, I don't see around me and in my country (Croatia) as much interest as in late 2017/early 2018 so I was curious what's the situation according to Google Trends and how popular "bitcoin" as term is. Timeframe I set was from January 1st 2009 up until today, January 13th 2021. As you can see from the screenshot below, users worldwide googled "bitcoin" less now than compared to December 2017 (approximately 20% less) when interest was at it's peak, despite the price increase which usually triggers the interest.  Numbers represent search interest relative to the highest point on the chart for the given region and time. A value of 100 is the peak popularity for the term. A value of 50 means that the term is half as popular. A score of 0 means that there was not enough data for this term. This map shows in which countries people googled for bitcoin the most, darker the blue, higher percentage of "bitcoin" term being googled, relative to all other searches in that country. Grey colour means that there is no enough data available. I knew that Nigeria will probably be high on the list, but I had no idea that "bitcoin" term is googled so much in a few other African countries like Ghana and South Africa.  Top 10 countries: Nigeria 100 South Africa 65 Ghana 58 Austria 46 Netherlands 43 Switzerland 41 Singapore 41 Slovenia 40 Australia 38 Canada 35 Rest of the list you can find here. Out of those big markets, Germany is ranked 11 with 34 score, United States are 14th with 31, United Kingdom 21st with 26 score. What surprises me is that South Korea is ranked 52nd, Russia 61st and the last is Japan, with score 2. Values are calculated on a scale from 0 to 100, where 100 is the location with the most popularity as a fraction of total searches in that location, a value of 50 indicates a location which is half as popular. A value of 0 indicates a location where there was not enough data for this term. A higher value means a higher proportion of all queries, not a higher absolute query count. So a tiny country where 80% of the queries are for 'bananas' will get twice the score of a giant country where only 40% of the queries are for 'bananas'.
I fully understand that just because someone googles "bitcoin" doesn't mean he will actually buy it, but it still give us some idea on the current interest, which usually coincides with increased price. So, what's the situation around you and in your country, do you notice more or less interest compared to 2017? |
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Basically from the moment I heard about bitcoin for the first time (iirc late 2013/early 2014) I hear people saying that it's too late to buy bitcoin now, that they missed the train etc just because they didn't buy bitcoin when it was dirt cheap, but in reality they wouldn't even think about buying when it was few dollars, as they would probably think that it's some kind of scam.
Last year I had to sell some bitcoin for some ongoing expenses and I asked all my friends & family (that wanted to buy when price was at previous all time high) if anyone is interested. BTC was 9-10k at that moment and absolutely no one wanted to buy, it was too expensive for them. After BTC crossed 30k mark, I keep getting messages from those same people, asking me where and how to buy.
To sum it up, those that really want to start investing will buy at any price (preferably using dollar cost average method) while those that don't will always find some excuse and always wait for the better time.
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As a total newbie in this topic (I use a couple mobile wallets since ages and I haven't researched the field since then), first of all, thanks for the warning, I hope you help many beginners who read this first; but as an iPhone user, are there fake wallets too in Apple's App Store? While making this list, out of curiosity I also checked iOS App store as I wanted to see situation there, and I found only one case of a suspicious app that could be a fake wallet, but I wasn't 100% sure. I will occasionally check iOS and might update this list with those apps as well, if needed. I think that it is not impossible but it is harder for iOS as they keep higher standards for the Apps to get accepted; but this is just a subjective opinion, I would like to hear it from someone who knows more than me on the topic (as i stated, I am still a newbie  ). That's true, chances of fake wallet appearing on iOS are significantly lower than on Google Play, but it can still happen of course. No system is infallible and mistakes are bound to happen, but with Google it can't be call an exception or anomaly when they have at least 13 fake wallets at the moment. Worst of all, it usually takes them couple of weeks to remove those fake apps. Important: Always download apps directly from developers website!
Personally, I use iPhone and in AppStore there are not so many fake and shitty apps. I have never faced with a problem like that and I hope nobody loses their money because of these kind of scams. It's true that iOS is generally safer, but I still wouldn't recommend getting something as sensitive as crypto wallet from App Store. Getting them directly from developers website is certainly a better option, just make sure that you are not entering a phishing website as that can happen too. People usually don't care much about their own safety until it's too late. All those reported fake wallets are already removed from Google Play, that's why they weren't included as I see no point adding them retroactively and cluttering the list if apps were removed months or maybe a year ago. I only included reports of the apps that were still available while making this topic. In case i missed some report and app is still available, pleasen mention it here and it will be updated asap. |
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Bunch of criminals are you!
we will grow, we will be popular, you cant stop us.
We can't stop you from fooling users of other platforms but you have been busted on bitcointalk, deal with it. Another good thing about being busted here is the fact that when someone googles you (and I hope that people will check you before giving you their hard earned money) this thread will pop up. You ate paint chips as a child Nah, you confused me for someone who believes in your bs ponzi system. |
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Evo danas vidim puno zelenila na tržištu. BTC se vratio na više od $36k pa se možemo nadati da je ovo samo bila malo jača korekcija kakvih je bilo i tijekom 2017. godine. E sad, hoće li biti isto kao 2017. ili ne, to je pitanje...
Baš zato što se većina nada da je to bilo to što se tiče korekcije i da sada idemo nazad na razine preko 40,000 USD ja si nekako mislim da prvo to ide nazad na 30,000 USD a vjerojatno i još ispod toga. Jebiga, kako će veliki uzeti profit i nakupiti još BTCa nego ako ne uhvate ove manje spuštenih gaća. Dodatak da ovo što ja trabunjam ne da treba uzeti sa prstohvatom nego sa kilom soli jer sam očajan trejder i optimistični pesimist (uvijek mislim da može biti gore ) ali eto tako mi govori osjećaj za feeling pa rekoh da podijelim .  |
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Just wanted to warn everyone that there is nothing new about Safron whatsoever. It is just another ponzi scheme that promises unrealistically high daily profit and pretends to be an investment/exchange platform. Therefore, I tagged and flagged @Safroninc. You can read more about it in the scam accusation topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308788.0 |
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I don't know whether you noticed but that news is from 2017 and since then Apple obviously improved in that regard and is without the doubt more demanding than Google when it comes to apps that show up on their platforms and scammers are obviously exploiting Google's negligence. There are currently at least 13 fake wallets available on Google Play, while I could find maybe (as I am not sure) one on iOS. You must admit that difference is quite big. I am not Apple/iOS fan at all, but it is fair to say that they take their users safety more serious than Google. In order to fight those scammers and their fake wallets more efficiently I made a thread which will be regularly updated with all newly found fake wallets and their current status (whether they are removed or not) so if you see that I missed some, please let me know and make sure to report those already mentioned on the list. Fake wallets on Google Play |
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