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5101  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain? Is it a joke or something? on: May 04, 2017, 03:32:47 PM
They don't HAVE to do anything.........they are outside any US jurisdiction & it's Bitcoin,no one will care  Sad
No one said what they have to do.  Actually, very few companies are obliged to provide the kind of customer service that they do, it's just that they have an economic incentive to provide the service - that no one will buy feeling insecure.

Bitmain is a weird exception since they have such a huge monopoly that there aren't enough good alternatives so they can get away with screwing everyone over.  No one should be buying from them by this point, they're a cancer to Bitcoin.
5102  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: something we can all be happy about on: May 04, 2017, 03:22:46 PM
What retailers actually accept zcash or augur or golem for example?
Retailers don't accept Litecoin or Ether either, and very few accept Bitcoin.  No cryptocurrency will have its price based on its utility, ever.  Their price is only based on the money that people hold in them, and utility is part of the reason why people hold money in it but they don't just put it in, spend it and be done with it.  People also don't only hold money in PayPal that they're spending that second.

And yes, it's daily price changes.

5103  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [Over 1 BTC Invested] 10 Vouchers + <<Business Investment - 20 % Weekly>> on: May 04, 2017, 10:04:10 AM
I will give this a go.
Looking for reliable investment opportunities all the time.
And never heard of someone doing this method before in leveraging amazon giftcards value before.
Interesting so will try it out.
And yes from what everybody is saying:
Just as long as you pay out to everyone who sends you bitcoin on time, nothing else really matters.
We all are here just to see and get results and that's about it! Wink

Yep, results speak more than any words Smiley
IMO you'll only have proven that you're getting the money legitimately when you're provably running the service at an overall loss (when you'd paid out more profits than you've received in deposits consistently).  HYIP admins run them for a long time sometimes but they still end up with a gain overall themselves.

I somewhat trust you right now, but I still view this as a high risk investment for now
5104  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's going on with Kraken?? on: May 03, 2017, 04:22:14 PM
Coinbase and Kraken have been having glitches, Bitfinex and OKCoin are screwed and even Bitstamp had a hack a while ago.  Exchanges in general are terrifying and the price is becoming questionable.
5105  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [Over 1 BTC Invested] 10 Vouchers + <<Business Investment - 20 % Weekly>> on: May 03, 2017, 04:12:07 PM
I've sent some more Bitcoin into this.

ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/dbb1cac58d14418f3e3df64590995e1e716f802586eb8af9cdcdfe197391d5c7

Thanks OP.
5106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela political status on: May 03, 2017, 03:35:16 PM
Well im Venezuelan and i live here in Carabobo closed to he capital Caracas, and we right now are having a total media blackout, all the transmisions on tv dont show what is going on with the country, everything that they are showing is "cadenas" or long programations of the president saying that everything is out of control and e will use extreme forces againts his own country, the situation her is alarming we need international help right now.

Yeah I know how this will end.
Venezuela crying for help , the west providing help then we will get labeled as invaders, everyone will start thrwoing rocks and when the country turns back into a dump it's our fault again.

How about you start dealing with your own shit?
You;re the guys that elected both Chavez and Maduro
The West are never labeled invaders for providing financial aid.  They're only labeled invaders (correctly) for trying to intervene in civil wars which don't concern them.
5107  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Alleged Bitcoin Founder Satoshi Nakamoto creating Bitcoin Core Competitor on: May 03, 2017, 03:25:24 PM
The use of the words "Satoshi Nakamoto" in the title is just to act as clickbait.
I thought it was the title of the article, but it turns out that the OP just wanted to spice up his thread. Angry

The syntax of the sentence is terrible as well.  It implies that Satoshi Nakamoto is the subject and therefore that he is the "alleged" Bitcoin founder.

Craig Wright, however, obviously isn't as it's really not that hard to prove you're satoshi if you are.  Journalists reporting it don't care whether or not he's satoshi as long as they can drag a good story out of it.  Craig Wright is a lunatic and if he's involved in it you can be pretty confident it's a bad idea.
5108  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are local bitcoin rates so much higher than preev rates? on: May 01, 2017, 04:20:36 PM
I'm seeing the exact opposite,  actually.   Preev is showing over $1400, while bitstamp is around $1387.  There have always been discrepancies like that, though, because of how small the bitcoin market is and the fact that there are numerous exchanges.   Preev should be a composite of them, though.  Not sure why they're listing the highest price.   That's what I'm seeing,  anyway.
I don't think you know what he's discussing.  He means the rates for the site LocalBitcoins.com, which is a peer-to-peer exchange.

The reason is very simple OP:  it's much harder for people to work with LocalBitcoins than to work on exchanges.  The premium is just the value of going outside to somewhere where another person meets you and manually waiting there for the transfer, along with the difficulty of selling and buying at times which are potentially inconvenient for you because it can take a long time to find a partner and the very high possibility of someone scamming you.
5109  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: What is the main appeal of online wallets and why do people use them? on: May 01, 2017, 04:08:10 PM
You're very, very wrong.

Think of a bank for a second.  When you put money in the bank, you don't own it, the bank does and they spend it for you.  The reason that your money is usually OK in a bank is because governments tend to insure reasonable amounts of money in the bank so that you can be compensated if they fail to pay and they're also very heavily regulated.

Now imagine that you were putting money into a bank that has only existed for about five years, is dealing with a new type of money, isn't insured and is extremely poorly regulated.  That's what an online wallet does.  It's about the furthest thing from safe that could exist in your lifetime.  It's basically like an exchange where you don't have to withdraw fiat.  They could collapse just like Mt Gox did and your money would be gone.

When you hold your money outside of an online wallet, you have responsibility for your funds because you actually control them.  If you lose them, that's your own fault, so it has the potential to be extremely secure.  You could run a full node; you could own a hardware wallet; you could write down the keys as a paper wallet if you don't intend to spend very often; you could even just store it in a lightweight node like Electrum.

Bitcoin offers real freedom from banks.  The whole point is that you don't have to trust a third party to have full control over your funds.  When you put your money in an online wallet, you remove that function of Bitcoin and thus it makes very little sense for you to be involved in Bitcoin at all.
5110  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2017, 03:54:44 PM
Looks like a pretty arbitrary chart, you'd have to reasonably explain the parameters for me to believe it.  When the price goes higher it gets harder to increase, so it can't be as simple as a line.  Most people, even professionals, aren't estimating anywhere over about 10k.
5111  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-04-28] CIO.com - Why swarm intelligence enhances business and Bitcoin on: May 01, 2017, 03:11:41 PM
Humans aren't like animals.  The individuality makes us humans, otherwise we would be sheep (I don't know why sheep get such a bad rep but we would be).

Swarm intelligence is a bad idea.  Even if it would make us more intelligent we would lose individuality which in my view is more important.  It could only be good if it was a proper peer-to-peer collective of individual minds, like Bitcoin pretty much is.
5112  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2017, 02:18:26 PM
I do agree. But again, all this does is give "legitimacy" to the PREVIOUS ATH. Also it is starting to consolidate as new bottom/support.

But I won't be calling NEW ATH until it is clearly above ($100+ more would make it) the previous one. That is what would signal to me that a new rally has started. It is also what I am expecting for this week.

i'll wait for an all time high that includes a china that works and a bitfinex that's either dead or back to its old self.
It's still a proper ATH.  Those things cause their own prices, but on the real, working exchanges there's an ATH so that's good enough for me.  Especially since the growth has actually happened over a few weeks instead of a few days, which is always a good sign for the future.
5113  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: LN+segwit vs big blocks, levels of centralization. on: May 01, 2017, 02:06:38 PM
EDIT: Although under LN, proxy nodes may become stable LN channels. This is the real political motivation for keeping the blocksize small, to be able to claim LN is a decentralised solution with the carrot that stable channel users may earn routing fees. It's essentially a full reserve banking system through these stable channel users. Eventually, the settlement layer will have to have an increase in capacity and the number of stable channel full reserve bankers will consolidate. The conspiracy theorist part of my mind leads me to think scaling war 2 will require a 3rd layer solution, the users will have to move to an off chain BTC token backed by BTC reserves - the transition from BTC has p2p cash to an electronic version of fractional reserve banking will be complete. It will become a settlement system between BTC bankers, with users using BTC backed tokens at the top. It is useless to resist.

I ran across a post at btc-hedge.biz/?page_id=ScaleDebate which claims "we are already here" and I was shocked then.  Now one year on and after I read so many discussions and papers, I am sad to realize centralization in some part seems inevitable.  Unless, the internet is so much improved that a 5% or 1% lower percentile of p2p speed is high enough and 95% or 99% people are happy to increase the on-chain blocksize.
An increased block size would not prevent centralisation.  It's a way of fitting more "decentralised" on-chain transactions, but as mining centralisation happens it won't matter that transaction are onchain.

Nodes would be centralised as well - more transactions means a bigger blockchain, which in turn means it's more expensive to run nodes and they become centralised.

It's impossible to avoid at least one kind of centralisation happening.
5114  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the limits of transactions of the Bitcoin ? on: May 01, 2017, 01:28:51 PM
Hello to all.
   I wanted to know what the limits of transactions of the Bitcoin Huh
Does Bitcoin have limits on the transfer from one Bitcoin address to another Huh

Thank you for your explanation.

The maximum transaction limit for the current time is 1MB. However, I have not seen anyone make such a large transaction. Bitcoin is very free, out of data limits, it does not carry any other rules. However, besides the limit on the amount that is sent, bitcoin encounters the problem of data transfer, when performing a transaction, it takes a long time to validate, and that time depends on the spend The fee we pay for each transaction. It is also inconvenient for bitcoin.

When a transaction is over 100MB, it's treated as an abnormal transaction by nodes and will be very difficult to pass through.  However, no transaction is that size - the median transaction size is somewhere around 250 bytes and it would be very unusual to have a transaction larger than a megabyte.

Transaction limits are just the block size which reasonably can't be fiddled with unless there's a consensus with miners.
5115  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-05-01]Maybe We Can All Get Along After All – Even in Bitcoin on: May 01, 2017, 01:15:41 PM
Random people on there don't represent the hashrate, they're never going to change their opinions and mining pool leaders are even less likely to change their opinion.

Random people (or their total aggregation) do represent the Bitcoin economy. If the people participating in Bitcoin vouch for one direction or another, the miners have little choice but to follow the economic majority. And the ecomomic majority gets stronger in favour of Segwit and Bitcoin Core all the time, and has been the majority for months now. Currently 65% and rising support Segwit on the Bitcoin network, +80% supports Bitcoin Core.
I get your point, but I suppose my phrasing was just poor rather than my point being wrong.

People on there arguing viciously are very, very rarely changing their opinions, so the chance of their discussions actually resulting in a change of sentiment for the economic majority is unlikely (except for newbies who contribute to a side).  Furthermore, the amount of actually money being behind the people talking on there isn't going to be even close to the majority and a lot of whales won't be on there.

People have broadly been in favour of Core (and to a lesser extent SegWit) for a while but it hasn't influenced the miners yet.  It's alright though, if they fork then the split coin will just fail.
5116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Girl Gone Crypto - Cryntro on: May 01, 2017, 01:04:21 PM
She doesn't seem to get it.  If your only aim is quick profits you're looking at everything so wrong, and she'll be one of those newbies who loses shitloads of money because she puts in too much money later (it'd be her fault for not thinking before going mental).

She even says that Coinbase is the best wallet, but says that the "fees are really high" so clearly she doesn't even get how Bitcoin transaction fees work, what an online wallet is or really what the point of cryptocurrencies is at all.

Oh well.  People aren't stupid.  She'll learn with time and experience.  Some people have to learn the hard way.
5117  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genisis mining and hashflare profitability? on: May 01, 2017, 10:22:19 AM
In normal investments, you'd be pretty lucky to get ROI in five years, if that.  Bitcoin investments are unique because they're less professional and people can screw around with them a lot more and potentially get a lot more even though the risk/reward ratio is hard to judge.

Still, I don't think cloud mining is a good idea.  The difficulty, over time, will naturally adjust to only just be profitable and that'll mean that it's only profitable if you do it yourself or the cost of giving the profit to the cloud mining service will result in a loss.  After a few years, most people will give up on cloud mining altogether except for crap Ponzi schemes which inevitably collapse.

Genesis mining is even worse since you only have two years of the extremely low chance for you to get ROI.  The recent rise in the Litecoin price just means that it's more profitable because the difficulty hasn't adjusted yet, but for most of the contract the profits will be much lower and in reality you still won't ever ROI.
5118  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blocchain on: May 01, 2017, 09:54:48 AM
There's really no point sending dust since it'll just raise someone else's transaction fees more than the amount they receive.  For your purposes, the Blockchain wallet won't have any minimum amount to send. 

I'm sure you'll do well if you're talking >10k satoshi.  I've never had a problem with sending personally.
5119  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-05-01]Is Bitcoin a Great Hedge Against Struggling Debt-Based Economies? on: May 01, 2017, 09:39:42 AM
Yes, but it's not the only one.  Gold, other precious metals and other cryptocurrencies also claim to be stores of value / hedges against debt based economies and regardless of how good they actually are, people are likely to invest in them.  The only way that Bitcoin can become stable is with enough people investing for it to have decent liquidity, and there's a little bump to go over before it's reached that point.
5120  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Enforcing Transparency and Accountability through Cryptocurrencies on: May 01, 2017, 09:30:42 AM
A good thing about Bitcoin isn't privacy but variation of privacy, so you have a point.  If I verify my identity with someone and then, from that verified service, sign a message with a Bitcoin address, I could prove exactly what other companies I deal with, what transactions I do and all of those companies can be public entities because they associate themselves with the pseudonyms which are already publicly available on the blockchain.

It's a similar reason to why some people are interested in the concept of blockchain-based charities - accountability.
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